It is to early to see Bitcoin Gold on coinmarketcap. They need to be listed on exchangers, that provide api to coinmarketcap.
Sometimes you don't even need the coin to be released, exchanges can list futures, which can provide api data to coinmarketcap. Segwit2x is already on coinmarketcap and it's not even a real token in a real blockcain yet: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/segwit2x/This coin always seemed like a clown train to me. Premining until mid November? this is not a serious project. |
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There are big problems when it comes to fungibility with bitcoin. Im tired of being told im a criminal and a drug dealer if I demand more privacy.
I have been demanding more privacy for obvious reasons that have nothing to do with illegal activities. For example: If you are an artist, and you are taking donations for your paintings or music or whatever.. why other people have to see how much money are you getting? If they see that you got paid a lot, they may think, "oh wow, this guy got too much money, I will just pirate his music, he will be ok anyway".
Don't you get how stupid accepting donations in Bitcoin is? unless you are an anonymous artist, people will see how much money you are getting.
And this goes for anything else. This is why BTC needs to improve his privacy immediately. I know gmaxwell was working on Confidential Transactions so that would solve how much BTC you are getting, but im not sure how that will work in practice. In order for it to work, you must be able to create a "Confidential receiving address" and this would mean that any BTC sent there is forced to be obfuscated in it's amount, this would allow for anonymous (at least in quantity) donations.
I think that everyone needs privacy, not just a certain type of people, like artists or any other group. It is for all of us. The most obvious reason for privacy is that you can't trust the government, simple as that. They could freeze your bank accounts tomorrow if you speak your mind against the government. This is what they did to Wikileaks, they hurt no one and it was just obvious politics. When they used Bitcoin for donations, Bitcoin got some high profile from the government and Satoshi left soon after, maybe for that reason. You never know when you will need to speak your mind and how bad your government might get, so we should all, absolutely all of us, have complete and full privacy if we choose to do so. Wikileaks itself is a reason as to why we need to improve privacy. "Thanks" to Bitcoin not being able to deliver obfuscated transactions, now everyone knows Julian Assagne is carrying millions worth of bitcoin, because he was given a lot back in the day. Their donation address is public, you can see how many BTC they have been donated: https://blockchain.info/address/1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36vFinal Balance 4,025.04795591 BTC This is right now around $22,500,000 worth of BTC. Imagine how scared you would be if you got such a big donation and everyone knew. It's ridiculous really. And we are only in the beginnings of Bitcoin, once BTC reaches $100,000 during the next decade, that will be an huge fortune, and everyone knows that no matter how much they moved it, they have tons of money. I wouldn't like to be on their shoes to be honest, specially Julian since he is the visible head. Bitcoin should have had optional obfuscated transactions since the beginning, now we can only hope on further upgrades.. |
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There's no volume on there. This is the real price of segwit2x coin right now: https://bitinfocharts.com/markets/bitfinex/bt2-btc-all.htmlBitfinex futures are the most accurate thing we have right now, and it's trading at around 0.15 BTC, so that's $820 at current prices. It's getting dumped hard, it hit $600 at some point. Just watch for the real dump to come. It may have a fake pump like BCash but the outcome is clear. |
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As being unlikely to support either s2x or gold fork, I was not so interested in knowing much about how it was all going to work as someone from my colleagues told me that bitcoin gold won't be distributed the way bch was done. But now I saw that a snapshot was taken yesterday and I had few coins in my blockchain wallet. Now I want to know that is it one of those wallets that agreed to give coins on a 1:1 ratio to their users if they had anything in their wallet during the snapshot?
Every competent online wallet should give you 1:1 coins at the time the split happens, but this is not guaranteed, each online wallet and exchange has their own policy. Remember that the only way to guarantee that you get your coins at an 1:1 ratio is to hold your private keys before the fork happens, otherwise it's anybody's guest. You will need to ask blockchain.info about their policy with the BGold fork. |
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What do you guys think about real estate backed cryptocurrencies ? Looking into them I feel like they are a stable investment with potentially great returns
It would end up in the paradox that you are practically creating a coin that is backed by government, because real estate is always backed by government, unless you are buying it somewhere in some unknown island, but I think even unclaimed territory ultimately is controlled by big government groups. For example, you cannot go into an island and create your own rights that go against human rights because you will end up getting kicked out (and rightfully so, imagine some psychos going into an island to make crimes legal). My theory is that all real estate is backed to government, so if the government doesn't like your coin being backed by real estate, you may have problems. Being able to buy real estate with bitcoin is not the same as it being backed by real estate, it just means it's backed by the government whose allows you to buy real estate a particular place. |
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BCH = Bitcoin Cash
BTG = Bitcoin Gold
GBYTE = Byteball
CLAM = Clams
BTX = Bitcore
I count 6 thus far. Soon to be 7, after SW2 (also known as B2X/Segwit2x) is released in November 18th. Im not sure if there have been more. Byteball is still airdropping, but it's a waste of time, the airdrop is giving tiny amounts for big amounts of BTC, so I wouldn't really bother.
BTX is trading at $6.94/0.00122884 BTC. Im not sure how claiming this coin works, I guess same as usual, but wouldn't bother to mess with my cold storage for such small gains.
CLAM, similar to BTX, trading at $3.89/0.00068986 BTC, not worth my time.
What else do we have out there?
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can somebody please help me in regards to the hardfork that occurred last night?? I need to know the proper actions to execute looking into this making sure addresses are correct and how to locate any split coins i may have. thank you in advance
First of all, where were your coins before the fork and during the fork? Did you have them on Bitcoin Core? if yes, all you need to do is to create a new wallet.dat file, move all of your coins from your existing wallet.dat to your new wallet.dat (rename the files and don't delete them, just in case). Now go on and put your empty wallet.dat file on BGold's client. Once synced, you will have access to your coins. Hint: Copy your "block "folder from your Bitcoin Core folder into the BGold folder so it syncs faster. |
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I have a strong feeling people will start selling some BTC, when they have received their FREE Bitcoin Gold from this fork. The price will go down and then people will sell their Bitcoin Gold to buy some more BTC and the price will go back up to $6000 or even $7000, if Bitcoin Gold trades goes well after the fork. We will see $7000 in November and December of this year.  You may be right with this prediction, but technical analysis was calling for a correction around on the 24th according to the daily chart anyway, which coincidentally happens to be on the Bitcoin Gold fork day... so in theory we should be going much lower from now on, maybe a long wick like we saw on the 18th, then a blazing flast recovery for another all time high. I don't see why people even bother with Bitcoin Gold, it's not going to be worth much, just wait for segwit2x and then dump both. |
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Saw those 200k+ pre-mined coins were supposed to sell into the ICO?
pre-mined seems like a scam to make the DEV fifty rich, and ICO? is this a double scam thing? is this even legal?
200k BTG is 20k BTC = 115,560,000 US Dollars at current market rate, for real?
The pre-mine is legal. What may be on the shady side is the developers calling it a fork. It is just an air drop with the developers having a pre-mine as interest. if the price goes to zero quickly, their coins will be worthless. Well this is the case with any other project where per-mining exists. A coin with premine is a coin that will have a permanent stigma on it and will always be brought up when someone wants to attack, similar to a coin that was deployed with an ICO. Even if the premine was used for a good cause, it's already seen as a joke by many potential investors. This is why bitcoin is unique... it was released with worthless coins and no premine, no other coin can replicate this because there will always be crypto speculators in a post-bitcoin environment. BTG is not serious at all for me, just another fork. At least its better than S2X. |
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Apart from reaching a new ATH, bitcoin is also regaining dominance vs other alts. It was halved between March and June and bitcoin has been slowly regaining it but lately seems to have received a boost.  Source: ( https://coinmarketcap.com/charts/#dominance-percentage) Any ideas about why this is happening? The altcoin bubble of june 2017 was really ridiculous, mostly driven by the delusional "ethereum flippening" where ETH bagholders thought that they would be able to dethrone bitcoin, but obviously that's just not happening. Most of that dip on the graph was that, maybe some big pumps seen in Monero and Ripple, but it wasn't anything with solid fundamentals, just alt speculation. Now that wall street money is going in and the altcoin bubble reached it's top we are going to hit more all time highs soon on bitcoin. |
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Most ICO's don't have liquidity, and altcoins in general are bubbled and appear higher than they are in coinmarketcap. The tokens are stuck in the hands of few, the demand is not really there, but you go to coinmarketcap and see a coin really high, but that's not how it works. You can't simply generated 30 million coins, sell one at 1 dollar, then claim the marketcap of your coin is 30 million.
Top 10 coins should be able to take a big 7 figures selloff without dying, but high finance operations can only happen in the bitcoin blockchain, the rest of the projects are just like toys with no liquidity.
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Should I stop accepting/sending bitcoins in days before / after forking, or wait some more confirmations more than 3-6 ?
If you only care about BTC, it shouldn't matter. There is supposed to be replay protection for Bitcoin Gold, but even if there isn't, you only risk losing Bitcoin Gold by transacting normally with BTC. The real risk in these forks (if they have no replay protection) is in trying to send the forked coins. Many users will likely get those transactions "replayed" on the original chain, and if the funds are sent to an address they don't control, they will be lost. I hope that in the future we have more simplistic coin splitting tools to make it easy for users to dump their altcoins without putting their BTC at risk. At least, I hope to see RBF and nLocktime become more intuitive for users, so they don't have to depend on exchanges/third party services to split coins for them. If you do care about BTC, then it is your duty to access the coins that are given to you in a fork and basically dump them on sight. So first of all control your private keys and forget about exchanges. Just wait for segwit2x to happen, then move your coins to another wallet, then use this empty wallet to access segwit2x and BGold coins and dump them. We must crush the prices of forks and our weapons are the free coins that are given to us on forks, this is how we strengthen the real BTC, and we get free BTC in the process doing so. |
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There's no way im going to deposit any bitcoins on there to try to get bitcoin gold faster than the rest... I have seen to many things go wrong with exchanges in times like this. I'd rather have the coins later when I access them with my own private keys.
There's no way that any exchange has the coins yet, consider it a scam until the actual hardfork split happens, so watch out or you may lose your coins.
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IT might be because that people are now starting to believe in bitcoin in a way that it is becoming more palatable than other cryptocurrencies just because of its longevity and that it is still higher than some of the other currencies. It might also be that the influence and popularity of bitcoin is spreading. I think the hype of the fork is coming into effect. The news about Bitcoin Gold and the value or profit that a bitcoin holder can take once fork is done. Probably greed is driving Bitcoin market upward since more bitcoin means more coins on the forked chain which means a profit for them. Yes, exact same thing that happened during the Bitcoin Cash fork. On top of that the crypto market is getting bigger since Bitcoin is in the news almost every day now. This could be a major pump after the fork or a dump. Although bitcoin cash fork was made, does it become reliable? Does it improve? What will happen after bitcoin gold? People are still sticking to bitcoin because many investors are buying bitcoin because of its known popularity today. Many people are still asking, what is bitcoin? I think crypto market will still rise in the future Of course everyone will stick with Bitcoin. Nobody cared about Cash or Gold to begin with. They're just alts that try to use the Bitcoin name for their own gain. Anyway, we're probably going to see Bitcoin go down a little while altcoins start pumping after the fork. Bitcoin regaining dominance are . Although bitcoin cash fork was made, does it become reliable? Does it improve? What will happen after bitcoin gold? People are still sticking to bitcoin because many investors are buying bitcoin because of its known popularity today and The news about Bitcoin Gold and the value or profit that a bitcoin holder can take once fork is done. Probably greed is driving Bitcoin market upward since more bitcoin means more coins on the forked chain which means a profit for them . I doubt Bitcoin Gold is going to be worth more than $200. If BCash has been dumped so hard to $300, even with all the shilling from Roger Ver in Bitcoin.com and the rest of actors with social media influence shilling it... how can this BGold fork reach any level of relevancy? I think it's not even going to be worth 3 figures and most people aren't even going to bother to risk making a mistake with their cold storage for such a low price. Maybe if you don't have many BTC you don't care, but people that have 5+ figures invested are taking a risk each time they have to change their cold storage in its entirety to access the forked coins. |
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~Not true forks, the fork talked about is when the previous blockchain is kept along with the balances and public keys.
In software engineering, a project fork happens when developers take a copy of source code from one software package and start independent development on it, creating a distinct and separate piece of software. The term often implies not merely a development branch, but also a split in the developer community, a form of schism.
that is what i am trying to point out. a fork is what the explanation from wikipedia says, nothing more. and so far people have been forking bitcoin as many times as they could. some of them even gave free tokens (airdrops) 1:1 to bitcoin holders without using the "previous blockchain" for example bitcore (BTX) is like this. it is a fork of bitcoin with SegWit and 20 MB blocks! and they gave 1 BTX for 1 BTC if you could sign a message. the new way of forking is not much different from the old way, they are practically doing the same and create the same useless altcoins but they use bitcoin blockchain. it just makes things harder for that altcoin because of the size of the current blockchain (140+ GB) but the result is exactly the same as other 667 forks. I wonder how many of these "big block forks" do we need for proponents to see that the free market does not want bigger blocks. We have BCash, BTX, B2X futures... they keep tanking, meanwhile 1MB BTC aka real BTC keeps making new highs. Jeff Garzik and NYA proponents are criminals that should be put in jail by trying to shut the market down by killing the legacy chain. |
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If you have ever accessed bitcointalk.to with your bitcointalk.org account, change your password immediately. Whoever is in charge of bitcointalk.to is most likely stealing passwords this way.
Given the massive amount of accounts getting hacked lately, I wonder what percentage comes from phishing due this bitcointalk.to website.
Has anyone attempted to know who is behind it? that can't be legal.
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Alright, so recently we have seen BCH, BTG and tons of hard fork So Segwit2x is something that people been looking at it months ago and it was on the Hot Topic debate previously. 1) Can Segwit2X actually activated via a Soft Fork? 2) Based on https://coin.dance/blocks, we can clearly see the Network % support towards Segwit2X Dropped, what happened there? 3) Like BCH, you get 1:1 BTC:BCH, but BCH is not getting major adoption, so Bitcoin is still the "Bitcoin we are using" So lets say if Segwit2X happens, it is accepted and majority accepted It. How would it be affected? I mean how would the Segwit2X be the "Bitcoin" that we are using now? In coinmarketcap, will Segwit2X replace the current "Bitcoin" or it will have a different thing there? Thanks No it can't. The main goal of segwit 2x is to increase the blocksize. Blocksize increases can only be deployed via hardfork, hence why they are so incredibly problematic. The market doesn't want bigger blocks, otherwise they would be using BCH and the price of BCH would be higher. Segwit2x proponents want to kill the legacy chain in order to not let the market speak how it doesn't want the segwit2 hardfork. |
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I'm just like those people before that didnt expecting that bitcoin will be too expensive like now. I have a chance to buy one bitcoin just in 200$ before but i didn't believe to the bitcoin that time. I thought that bitcoin will not going to last longer and it will become scam after having many investors on it.
A years past the bitcoin price rised to 500$ and im thinking that time if i will going to give it a try to invest some money on it. But like before i didnt believe to bitcoin again. The negavity are still on my body thinking that bitcoin will be down sooner.
Until this year i got a chance to have bitcoin in 3000$ dollar but i didnt take this opportunity again i feel that im really so stupid when it reached 5000$.
Do you think guys bitcoin will reach 8000$ next year? i really want to give it a try now. So many opportunity i wasted and i will not going to let it happen now.
It's possible that we'll see $10000 next year. The thing with bitcoin is, there's a limited supply, and there's going to be the same demand or more (basically more, given the fact that this is a growing field). It's rather obvious the price will keep going up. But due the small marketcap there's a lot of volatility. For me this is market noise. I don't care if it goes to $3000 due NYA's stupidity in the next 3 months for example, I Know in the long term we will be higher than we are now and that's all that matters. |
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What is everyone's thoughts on the effect of the coming BTC fork on market trading? Do you think it will be worth it to buy into BTC to get BTCgold to sell? Looking for some opinions on this.
Well, free money is free money I guess... so yes, it's a good bet to get some, not because of BGold, mostly because it's 2 forks that are coming: BGold and segwit2x, so you will get 2 altcoins for the same amount of BTC you buy, then you dump BGold and segwit2x coins and get more BTC. The problem with forks is always having to screw around with your cold storage and the drama that it brings if it's just an attack on bitcoin like segwit2x is. If I wanted to speculate, I would buy both before the fork to receive the alts, and during the fork if there is a BTC dip. |
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Hey guys,
Anyone knows how those bitcoin exchanges can randomly generate btc address for a new signed up account? Also, a new random address can be automatically generated each time we click on deposit tab.
What exchange are you using that generates new deposit addresses every time you click on the deposit tab? Every exchange that i've used so far, generates only 1 deposit address per account. My deposit address in Poloniex has been the same forever, which is total shit when it comes to privacy btw. Exchanges should generate a deposit address, and once used, the next time you click deposit it should be new, but thus far, it seems every exchange I use keeps the same address. |
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