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1421  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 21, 2013, 01:24:43 PM
and the other half still doesn't have their units, all of batch two doesn't and they are trying to push batch 3 at a huge markup in value and another unclear delivery date with a break thrown in.

Any one from Batch 2 at least got any tracking numbers?

Otherwise the whole deal starts to look more and more problematic.
1422  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon Batch 3 - Will You Order? on: March 21, 2013, 09:19:04 AM
Only if there any indication when it shipped, otherwise any claimed Roi is well within the speculation area.
1423  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 10:52:19 PM
very well said

like I said earlier,  88 coin and unit in stock READY to ship = fair deal

five grand and who know when will you get a shipping tracking number will not gonna fly

I can only +1 this.
1424  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 10:02:20 PM
what a pitty.... missed batch #2 because I was unable to get my money converted to BTC fast enough and now when I did read about batch #3 on monday I went on and bought BTC but only calculated with 1599$ like it was for batch #2 -.-

I completly understand the position of Avalon team, but the risk for the customers is a bit too high for me now. (But I'm looking for joint ventures if anyone is interested...)

As I mentioned in neighboring threads, I'm willing to pool on this with someone to share the risks, PM me if interested.
1425  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 10:01:22 PM
You shouldn't feed the troll, he only wants to troll. He is shouting sentences without any meaning in hope to fell the avalon team guilty and lower their prices because he can't afford it. This is the way I read it and this is why I asked you to stop.

Feel free to continue anyway, its funny.

I'm indeed not willing to risk such sum alone without some delivery guarantees, as I openly stated here.
The rest was merely my personal experience and point of view. Feel free to interpret it however you wish.
1426  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 09:42:53 PM
Dude,
I ordered mine at noon i remember it clearly. A friend of mine ordered about 12 PM so please excuse me it was not available for a whole day but at least for 12+ hours i am talking for the reopening of second batch 1 week later after the initial fiasco probably you missed this out ?

Some of us still have a daily job / business to run and commitments, despite the entire BTC craze, and cannot spend the whole day checking the site.

12 hours window reminds me more a Black Friday rush, then an equal opportunity to anyone willing to put their coins into early product.

Anyhow, this discussion is moot as Avalon can and will charge whatever they want, so I wish luck to all current and future ASIC miners – in the end you only make the market stronger.
1427  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 09:25:56 PM
Batch 2 second wave was available for whole day i repeat one day to be ordered

Quite incorrect - and a quick look over relevant forum boards illustrates it clearly.

In my case specifically, the link in newsletter lead to "out of stock" on the morning already, and I only found out afternoon that sale was re-opened and gone again.

So call it as it is - a firesale that only those who frequent these boards managed to get it, far from all people who were actually interested in buying Batch 2.
1428  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 09:11:50 PM
this January, considerable people think we take Jeff down or just spent 400K to make a prototype, you don't buy.

now, everything on track, machines delivered to your hands are only a matter of time. you want to buy them at a same price or something like 2000USD.

You of course can set whichever price you want, as it a simple question of supply and demand.

That said, please at least keep the fact straight:
1) batch #2 ran out before most of people could order, and thanks to problems in the process, many of us could not get in.
2) as you not willing to lower the declared value, only the VAT will kill the deal for most of us. In my case it's more than costs of previous batches.
3) as there is no delivery guarantee, we basically don't have any indication of ROI.

All of this makes this preposition actually more riskier for us then Batch 1 and 2 buyers.
1429  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Avalon ASIC users thread on: March 20, 2013, 08:49:54 PM
I would have no problem with this pricing provided 2 things:

1) The delivered power is at least 2x than batch 1 and  batch 2.
Or
2) Properly working Batch 2 order process - I wanted to buy 2 units, but got "Not in stock" early in the morning, when I checked again after noon all has gone.

Therefore pulling it myself currently too much of a gamble (even bigger then Batch 1 and Batch 2, due to constant delays in shipment), but if someone wants to pool BTC's with me (we will need to sort out where we going to store it), he/she is welcome to PM.
1430  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Risk free Avalon partnership? on: March 20, 2013, 08:38:21 PM
Can more people join from the funding side?

Or pool BTC's to even out the risks?
1431  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: March 13, 2013, 06:39:15 PM
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1432  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Avalon ASIC] Batch #2 pre-Sale Thread on: February 01, 2013, 11:02:29 PM
Anybody knows how the customs will be declared here?

Will it be possible to declare them on certain sum, i.e. 250$ for example?
1433  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The Litecoin PPS Pool - We pay for stale shares! on: February 01, 2013, 06:50:55 PM
Hi.

When new members will be allowed?
1434  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Ships on: January 23, 2013, 10:33:07 AM
Anyone knows where it possible to subscribe for batch 2 availability anouncement?
1435  Other / Beginners & Help / Any update on these FPGA boards? on: June 12, 2011, 05:54:53 AM
I would like to do the long-term mining via these, to save on power.

Anyone knows if some are coming to market?
1436  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Spreadsheet: Invest in BTC or mining hardware? on: June 11, 2011, 10:10:11 PM
Hi.

Can someone confirm my calculation, that building a new typical rig with 2x6950 (~1,000$), is already less profitable then investing these into BTC (15.5$ ex. rate, default 10% monthly gain - though it pure speculation, I know).

Thanks.
1437  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Buy and Sell Mt Gox USD on: June 11, 2011, 06:13:35 PM
20 btc, paypal, market price, PM me.
1438  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Man has heatstroke because of too many mining machines -- WTF? on: June 10, 2011, 11:30:07 PM
He said later the brain damage was before mining, so it same as with mobile phones - unconfirmed that over-mining can damage your brains Smiley.
1439  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Call for investors. Let's build a huge bitcoin mining DC together. on: June 09, 2011, 06:18:00 AM
Hi.

Is there already glbse posted for this project?

I've contemplated setting such DC myself, seeing that my mining halted to a grind, but would be definitely interested to invest in such opportunity.
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