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1421  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 08:48:04 PM
You want Bitcoin now?



@Afrikoin: don't you mean first?
1422  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 08:36:13 PM
Bitcoin wont fail because the technology was revolutionary.  But I cant argue with someone who says its worth .50 cents or someone else who ways 1 unit is worth 1 million dollars

Apparantly someone thought 10000 of them was worth a large pizza, and another person thought it was worth $1200 last spring

Bitcoin acquires value exactly like anything else--bread, tulip bulbs, SexCoin.  The value of USD is not "set" by any authority (you're free to ask $1 or $1,000 for your BTCeanie).
Speculative value is fine.
1423  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 08:32:16 PM
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It is relevant because the USD is deflationary and loses value over time.  The Zimbabwe 100 trillion is gaining value because it is discontinued and a rarity item, and increased 700% the last 5 years where as the USD went down how much?Huh

So...  Mebby we should let Bitcoin fail completely, and it would acquire value as a digital collectible?  There's a real black swan disruptive technology paradigm shift right there, no?

Thats the bitcoin value-trap.  Who made up the value?  only speculators and gamblers

Artificial scarcity.  Worked for BTCeanie BTCabies, will work for Bitcon Smiley
1424  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 08:28:15 PM
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It is relevant because the USD is deflationary and loses value over time.  The Zimbabwe 100 trillion is gaining value because it is discontinued and a rarity item, and increased 700% the last 5 years where as the USD went down how much?Huh

So...  Mebby we should let Bitcoin fail completely, and it would acquire value as a digital collectible?  There's a real black swan disruptive technology paradigm shift right there, no?
1425  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 08:24:34 PM
That's 'coz you can't math or read Smiley


what are u talking about.


I would rather have one of those notes than $1 usd or one bitcoin

maybe you want sexcoin instead

Ahh, I'm beginning to see the root of your confusion.  You think one bank note = one unit of currency.  Sort of like a $1 bill = $100 bill.  Gotcha.
1426  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 08:19:46 PM
^That's 'coz you can't math or read.  Not all opinions are equal, you know--some are plumb stupid Smiley
1427  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 08:17:32 PM
Come on kids, I know when we're not wanted, we're leaving.  Forever Sad



The cubs wanted steak, couldn't say no Sad

@Ultros:  Such mature.  Very reason.  Wow.
1428  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 08:12:46 PM


As relevant to USD & fiat in general as this SexCoin chart is to BTC and crypto as a whole.



On the contrary, I have been tracking it for years and it is appreciating, Id rather have the old zimbabwe than either the usd or btc



Why is it you Bitcoiners are so bad with numbers?  
Hint:  The naughts after the one make all the difference Smiley
P.S:  If you also knew how to read... One Hundred Trillion != 1 Undecided
1429  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 08:05:39 PM
^How's that SexCoin of yours doing tho?  All good?  Value stored?  Velocity up to speed?  Farting through silk yet?

1430  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 07:58:53 PM


As relevant to USD & fiat in general as this SexCoin chart is to BTC and crypto as a whole.

1431  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 07:54:45 PM
No one uses money as a permanent store of value either

But they do.

If money wasn't a store of value then it would be worthless.

>permanent

Why the fuck not?

I bet you're a cuck too.

You sound angry.  A cuck?  But you're the one getting buttraped all year by Bitcoin me shorting your fellow Bitcoiners?
1432  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 07:50:47 PM
... if you and your bronies like being kicked in the nutts by uncle same, he sure loves doing it.

Continue taking Bitcoin's girthy D.  Oh look, more surprise buttsecs coming ur way Cheesy
1433  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 07:42:48 PM
Non-inflationary currency would not get invested during economic downturns.  You don't understand finance, and that's fine--but arguing this is getting a bit repetitive.  Please educate yourself & return when you have something more than your paranoia about banksters to share.
ty

Freaking Keynesians.

Less non-inflationary currency would get invested during economic downturns. Money is a claim on resources. During an economic downturn, resources need to be used more efficiently. Money that would not be used for useful purposes (luxury goods, frivolous projects) would be withheld, resources are freed up and projects which actually benefit the economy move forward with reduced costs.
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I suspect you learned everything you know about Keynes from stormfront.org a reliable source.
1434  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 07:40:19 PM
No one uses money as a permanent store of value either

But they do.

If money wasn't a store of value then it would be worthless.

But that's stupid.  Not a good long-term store of value doesn't mean not a store of value.  Capacitors store electrical charge, but have internal leakage that makes them lose that charge over time.  Bigass filter caps are INTENTIONALLY bypassed with bleed-down resistors, does that make caps useless?
1435  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 07:34:02 PM
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>Do you complain about milk being a ripoff because it doesn't last for years?

Nobody uses milk for it's purchasing power, now or present. It's a good that is bought and 'used'.
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No one uses money as a permanent store of value either.  At least no one sane does.  
Now that you know this, stop.

@LittleDigger:  Good thing you invested your worthless USD into SexCoin, the seriously excellent store of value immune to "currency wars" Cheesy
1436  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 07:31:05 PM
Richy, you simply don't understand how things work.
The dollar is a means of exchange, it is not intended to be a good store of value.  Its value depreciates over time, just as it is meant to do.

Only the illiterate/insane few stuff it in mattresses/jelly jars.  The same sort of people who put unfinished food under their bed, and complain when it's not edible a year later.
How can this be so difficult to grasp?

"Meant"? Says who? The US Govt and friends who benefit from inflation. Fine, if you're happy with that, stick with it.

The uninformed expect a dollar this year to be the same as a dollar next year. These people get robbed.

These people are monumentally stupid & are likely the very same people who invested in Bitcoin a year ago.  
The fool and his money Undecided

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The informed know it won't be and invest in stocks and bonds and get front-run by those who receive early information on the government's inflationary policies. These people get robbed. Instead of money being invested in businesses and technology and making life better for everyone, someone at Goldman Sachs gets to pick the gold-rail option for their yacht. It's time for a change.

Non-inflationary currency would not get invested during economic downturns.  You don't understand finance, and that's fine--but arguing this is getting a bit repetitive.  Please educate yourself & return when you have something more than your paranoia about banksters to share.
ty
1437  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 07:23:25 PM

@Ricchy_T:  My trust wasn't misplaced--no one ever told me that the USD will not depreciate over time.   My dollar has also never debased itself by 70% in the course of a year.
Your Bitcoin, OTOH...  Someone promised me $30k coins by last Christmas.  What happened Huh

Aren't we over 80% at this point? keep up.

What happened is greed and delusion and China.

Over 80% what?
Did someone promise YOU that the USD would not depreciate over time?  
No one has ever promised me that the USD would not become less valuable over time.  OTOH, I was promised by many here that Bitcoin could only appreciate over time, because math and sciences.
1438  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 07:18:33 PM
My wealth keeps being stolen from me but it's okay because it's supposed to happen!


Nothing is being stolen.  Nothing will be taken from you if you don't use the dollar for stuff it was never intended to do, like trying to use it as a permanent store of value.
You might as well bitch about the $ being a gyp because it makes a lousy pet.
It's not meant to be matress stuffing any more than it's meant to be a pet.
What level of lunacy am I up against here?  Do you complain about milk being a ripoff because it doesn't last for years?
1439  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 07:08:49 PM
Aren't you lucky that there is someone in this thread whom you can vent your frustration on when you see your investment do in 1 year what the dollar did in 100 years?

Glad to oblige.

PS. Only idiots keep their savings as currency.  I wonder if it is genetic?


It's only taken the dollar about 50 years fwiw.

Richy, you simply don't understand how things work.
The dollar is a means of exchange, it is not intended to be a good store of value.  Its value depreciates over time, just as it is meant to do.

Only the illiterate/insane few stuff it in mattresses/jelly jars.  The same sort of people who put unfinished food under their bed, and complain when it's not edible a year later.
How can this be so difficult to grasp?
1440  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 18, 2015, 06:55:46 PM

But then your SexCoin ain't really dead either.  Though some things are better off dead Undecided


@Ricchy_T:  My trust wasn't misplaced--no one ever told me that the USD will not depreciate over time.   My dollar has also never debased itself by 70% in the course of a year.
Your Bitcoin, OTOH...  Someone promised me $30k coins by last Christmas.  What happened Huh
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