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1421  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bill gates says cryptocurrency is bad on: February 28, 2018, 07:31:43 AM
Not the first time he has been wrong. Smiley
1422  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Your favourite ongoing/upcoming ICOs on: February 28, 2018, 07:30:30 AM
Last couple of hours on the Blocklancer ICO so I'll take this opportunity to shill for it.

They recently added a Harvard graduate from the Forbes 30 under 30 list to their team, so well worth grabbing some of the highly undervalued coins (for the long run). This isn't a P&D, unlike most other ICOs.
1423  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WARNING DeepOnion is a SCAM, proof inside! on: February 28, 2018, 07:27:38 AM
As some others have pointed out, a "Ponzi scheme", by definition, requires initial monetary investment, which is then used to pay the first investors, so those entering last are burned.  No initial investment, other than a little typing was required.  If you're going to call DO a scam, at least be more accurate.

There hasn't been a mandatory upgrade of the wallet in quite a long time.  You may still compile the code from GitHub and have a working wallet.  Later, non-mandatory, upgrades to the wallet, after the introduction of DeepVault are closed to review, however if you do not wish to use that proprietary DeepVault, then, yes, the code is open source.  I think I've used DeepVault once, not a feature I really need, so, if I wanted to simply stake or hold Onion, I could use the open source, if I cared to compile it myself, from GitHub.

I dislike misinformation being spread, and I would like to know if anything I've typed is factually inaccurate.  Once I investigate your claim, I'll happily correct myself.  Now, just for arguments sake, making statements like, "I feel DO is a scam...." is not something I'd even entertain, your feelings have nothing to do with it, neither do mine.  What I want to know is, can you compile a functional wallet from open source for DeepOnion?  Yes, you can.  Therefore it is effectively open source.  Was a monetary / fiat investment required to initially join the "modified airdrop"?  No, there was not, I was here at the beginning.  A minimum is required now, with, nine, I think, rounds left to go, so, break out your Funk and Wagnall's but that fails the definition of a "Ponzi scheme".

Closed versus open source and "Ponzi scheme" seem to be the arguments thrown around the most, and they appear invalid.
Seems like you made a valid point here.

A Ponzi scheme doesn't require any monetary investment, it's a scheme whereby value is transferred to the creators of said scheme.

When talking about ponzi's in crypto, it takes on a whole different meaning due to the natural creation process of crypto, being creating from mere code, essentially out of nothing, based only on trust.

And to every person who's entering DeepOnion after their "17th airdrop" you've have entered into this ponzi scheme unknowingly (you have invested real money into it, or some serious hours of time), and you're actively marketing the coin to acquire more value to your investment, welcome to the free-coin-prymaid-scheme.

The entire operation is Ingenious, and their marketing/community and coin all coupled together, is virtually unparalleled. But, the markets say otherwise, despite countless hours of marketing, the coin itself remains insignificant, with meager volumes and even a more meager mcap. This ultimately is the biggest tell in what people think about this coin.

DeepOnion will not be the last coin to implement "The Onion scheme" in crypto, it's only the beginning.

Consequences for these levels of corruption will be dealt down on the creators/team of DO, through government intervention or karma. There are countless stories to be told, by former individuals who've seen the insides of the entire process, and it isn't pretty. DO could of easily been one of the best coins to launch, but the morons behind the scene's lack all: vision, experience, knowledge and ultimately the ability to understand criticism/feedback.




Does this resemble some process to you?


Well said. Would merit if I had any left.
1424  Other / Off-topic / Re: Anyone wanna join my Discord? on: February 28, 2018, 06:56:54 AM
does your discord teaches how to make money?
Read books for that. Keywords: Investing, Fundamental Analysis, Technical Analysis, Portfolio balancing, Risk Management (in finance)
1425  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2018, 06:53:19 AM
... and down she goes.

Sheeit.

$11k is being a real cunt.
Inc moon:

1426  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2018, 05:59:22 AM
Bullflag forming around $10,950.  More train memes plz

1427  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you buy from online stores/shops ?? on: February 28, 2018, 05:57:37 AM
I buy everything except groceries online. Much more time efficient and prices are generally better as well.
1428  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2018, 05:51:02 AM
The #LightningNetwork on testnet is absolutely massive! 😲Developers from all over the world are testing it, running nodes, adding channels and sending payments to one another. Keep up the good work!

Oh yeah, well, real men run Lightning on MainNet. With port 22 open. AND ROOT LOGIN ENABLED !!
Real men hack and dox 127.0.0.1 Cool
1429  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【ICO LIVE】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: February 28, 2018, 05:49:29 AM
I really want to participate this ICO before it ends later. Too bad I didn't notice that I only have a few ETH left in my wallet  not enough for 1 ETH minimum investment! Good thing they still give chance to have LNC by having a Bounty! More Power to you Blocklancer! Smiley
There is no minimum investment. You can send fractions of ETH if you wish to do so. Smiley
1430  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2018, 03:47:20 AM
Pft. This is just a prelude to doom and you know it.  
Doom delayed due to orcarina playing.
1431  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2018, 02:58:08 AM
Is there a source on the internet statement? I can see how somebody would conclude that "64 kB of memory should be enough". But the fucking internet?

It wasn't quite as dramatic as calling it a "fad" but he did underestimate its importance and had to revise his book:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_Ahead_(Bill_Gates_book)

Thanks.
1432  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2018, 02:46:39 AM
http://uk.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-on-cryptocurrency-2018-2?r=US&IR=T

    Billionaire philanthropist and Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates said no technology has "caused deaths in a fairly direct way" to the extent that cryptocurrencies have.
    He said that the ease with which people can anonymously buy drugs is a major problem, and suggested that cryptocurrencies are used to launder money and fund terrorist organizations.
    Gates also added that "the speculative wave" around initial coin offerings and cryptocurrencies is "super risky."


Bill Gates is the same guy who said "64 kB should be enough for anyone". Now he denies the quote is legit, but he sure acted like it, failing to endow DOS and the first Windows versions with proper memory addressing.

Bill Gates is also the same guy who thought the Internet, anarchic network of networks as it used to be, would be a passing fad and everyone would just use the Microsoft Network.

Bill Gates is the same guy who can't quote you the price of common groceries found in the store, because he's up in the Ivory Tower along with the rest of the billionaires.

https://oleganza.com/all/how-bill-gates-managed-to-be-wrong-in-every-sentence-about-bitco/

refutes each point he made on reddit
Is there a source on the internet statement? I can see how somebody would conclude that "64 kB of memory should be enough". But the fucking internet?

No.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/2534312/operating-systems/the--640k--quote-won-t-go-away----but-did-gates-really-say-it-.html

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...the Bits technology blog published by The New York Times reported that the chief editor of The Yale Book of Quotations had tried without success to verify the quote.
Your link is about the alleged memory quote, not about the internet one.
1433  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2018, 02:25:31 AM
(...) Bill Gates
said that the ease with which people can anonymously buy drugs is a major problem
I'd say it depends on the drugs one buys.

And even if it's some "wrong" drug, getting it anonymously on the Internet sure beats looking for a fix in dodgy places.

so much this

Actually, with silk road, there was, really for the first time ever, some semblance of peer review and quality feedback.

I would argue that it probably reduced harm while it operated.

And who the fuck is Bill to decide for others how they may alter their consciousness anyway?
Seconded. The criminalization and stigmatization of drugs causes more harm than good from a social, economical and public health perspective. Not to mention the tresspassing on individual liberty or the fact that drug crime literally wouldn't exist if it wasn't a billion dollar industry.
1434  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 28, 2018, 02:10:32 AM
http://uk.businessinsider.com/bill-gates-on-cryptocurrency-2018-2?r=US&IR=T

    Billionaire philanthropist and Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates said no technology has "caused deaths in a fairly direct way" to the extent that cryptocurrencies have.
    He said that the ease with which people can anonymously buy drugs is a major problem, and suggested that cryptocurrencies are used to launder money and fund terrorist organizations.
    Gates also added that "the speculative wave" around initial coin offerings and cryptocurrencies is "super risky."


Bill Gates is the same guy who said "64 kB should be enough for anyone". Now he denies the quote is legit, but he sure acted like it, failing to endow DOS and the first Windows versions with proper memory addressing.

Bill Gates is also the same guy who thought the Internet, anarchic network of networks as it used to be, would be a passing fad and everyone would just use the Microsoft Network.

Bill Gates is the same guy who can't quote you the price of common groceries found in the store, because he's up in the Ivory Tower along with the rest of the billionaires.

https://oleganza.com/all/how-bill-gates-managed-to-be-wrong-in-every-sentence-about-bitco/

refutes each point he made on reddit
Is there a source on the internet statement? I can see how somebody would conclude that "64 kB of memory should be enough". But the fucking internet?
1435  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【ICO LIVE】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: February 28, 2018, 02:07:52 AM
Doubt it. The only people who got banned were relentlessly spamming and insulting for over 5 hours.
1436  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【ICO LIVE】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: February 28, 2018, 01:01:28 AM
I'd assume that you got banned for spamming as well as for insulting people for hours.
1437  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【ICO LIVE】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: February 28, 2018, 12:30:12 AM

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People will whine no matter what happens. But from any investment or business type of perspective this was the right move. An extension doesn't just mean more Ethereum, but also a potentially higher valuation considering that it went down drastically from its ATH of around $1300 USD. That's a huge difference that would pretty much double the impact of the marketing campaign in the future.
Facebook ICO ad ban was terrible timing too. I figured it would have a substantial impact on the campaign, but it seems to be doing well regardless.
Yeah the Facebook move was really bad and likely what slowed down the sale in the first place. Right at the beginning people were jumping on the ICO, but there was a lot of advertising done leading up to that point. Once the ICO started FB ads were no longer available and we could see investments decreasing quite drastically.
1438  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【ICO LIVE】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: February 27, 2018, 10:50:58 PM
Nice to have the sale extended. Would help the token not suffer in this bear market when launched. Still enough time for anyone who wants to get some LNC
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Was getting a little worried that we're not going to hit the 10000 Ether so I was glad to wake up to an extension. The difference in marketing funds is significant enough to justify an extension, although I would've hoped that they would've announced it earlier or left the time limit out entirely.

Yes, I was disappointed that the extension was announced so close to the deadline, but the reasoning behind it is valid.

Yes, I was actually praying for the extension when it started looking like it's not going to sell out. The market is bad at this moment, if given the complete resources I believe we would have a solid platform coming soon so why not get the target funding and be happy with results than lunch tokens to have flippers whine about price later. 
People will whine no matter what happens. But from any investment or business type of perspective this was the right move. An extension doesn't just mean more Ethereum, but also a potentially higher valuation considering that it went down drastically from its ATH of around $1300 USD. That's a huge difference that would pretty much double the impact of the marketing campaign in the future.
1439  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【ICO LIVE】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: February 27, 2018, 09:06:30 PM
Nice to have the sale extended. Would help the token not suffer in this bear market when launched. Still enough time for anyone who wants to get some LNC
I agree with this wholeheartedly. Was getting a little worried that we're not going to hit the 10000 Ether so I was glad to wake up to an extension. The difference in marketing funds is significant enough to justify an extension, although I would've hoped that they would've announced it earlier or left the time limit out entirely.
1440  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【ICO LIVE】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: February 27, 2018, 08:55:59 PM
I hope it's not too late to post the code

6350sig
The ICO has been extended throughout March, so you still have plenty of time to participate. Welcome to the campaign. Smiley

Hello bounty hunter,,
There's something I want to ask you a bit about this bounty payment
does anyone know the calculation of payments related to the stake?
Every category has a total amount of shares. Your shares divided by the total amount of category shares will determine your percentage of the respective category. The category value is a function of the percentage listed in the bounty portal and the total amount of Ethereum raised.

If there's 1000 shares in a given category and you have 100 of those shares, you will get 10% of that category. If the category is worth 26% of the bounty pool it means that you'll get 2.6% of the bounty pool. The bounty pool is 2% of the total amount raised during the ICO.
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