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1421  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE - 🎲🎲🎲 ICO ANNOUNCE 15 AUG 2017! JOIN THE TRANSFORMATION! 🎰🎰🎰 on: July 30, 2017, 07:32:57 PM
It has nothing to do with being transparent or shady. Its about not being registered with SEC but accepting US customer's money. The same reason BTC-e has been taken down. Even if the ICO blocks US customers, ICO token will be traded on Polo/Bittrex. So, US traders will touch it and thereby bitDice will end up breaking US laws.
I'm not really sure how US laws work out but if the customers are buying tokens from a website that is operated from the US,isn't it the website's fault that is allowing the sales of tokens to the US customers ? Shouldn't the third party exchange  like polo  be verifying if the request placed for a xyz coin isn't coming from a US customer ? I doubt BitDice is to be blamed for it. Doesn't make any sense to.
If Polo/Bittrex does not list a coin, that's already a bad news for that coin. Moreover, even if it is listed on Bitfinex or some other non-US exchange and an US customer trades it, then its trouble again. BTC-e was not in US, but US law enforcement has taken it down.

There's got to be a way to have bitdice non-responsible for trades of its tokens by restricted users. Anybody who can enlighten us?
1422  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 13 BILLION BET🎁Most Popular Dice & Roulette🎁 on: July 30, 2017, 07:18:42 PM


RickyA7 hit the 13billionth roll and he was very lucky to win 2 more times in the hunt. Congrats to you
1423  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★☆★777Coin★☆★ - ✔ Full Range of Games! ✔ Instant Withdraw! ✔ Progressive Jackpot on: July 30, 2017, 07:15:55 PM
bigmann23


Sup BIG.

If you are posting for the giveaway I would advise you to do it on the giveaway thread and not here. Check my post above for the link.
1424  Economy / Gambling / Re: ✅ DuckDice.io 🎲 MAX 2K Faucet 🎲 120%Deposit Bonus 🎲 1%Edge 🎲 Fair 🎲 Chat 🎲 on: July 30, 2017, 06:26:37 AM
Quote from: Duckdice.io scam
Your Balance will be locked while bonus is active. You can cancel bonus at any time.
Bonus must be wagered 55x to became a part of your balance.
According to your terms, the bonus was not part of his balance, so the 5 BTC win was solely generated by his 2 BTC deposit.

55x wagering requirement of 2 BTC bonus = 110 BTC to wager. Minus 23% (25 BTC) already wagered = 85 BTC left to wager to get the 2 BTC bonus

1% house edge of 85 BTC to wager = 0.85 BTC loss.  

So if you restore his account balance of 9 BTC (2 BTC deposit + 5 BTC win + 2 BTC bonus) and he will wager the required 85 BTC to get the bonus, he will statistically lose 0.85 BTC and his account will be statistically 8.15 BTC instead of the only 2 BTC deposit you gave him!

Nope, I do not think that they really need to pay him 7 btc, because he started with 2 btc, no matter they win or lose the only way to get this fair is to give him back what balance he start deposit. This is like he resetting their amount back to the start, so everything will be no affect on it anymore, this is seems fairly to him. I think duckdice red tagged should clear right now
It does not play any role what he had at the start or what he did 1 year ago! Relevant is only the point when they misleaded him to click the |Cancel Bonus| button.

At this point his balance was worth 7 BTC + 1.15 BTC bonus after wagering the remaining 85 BTC to clear the 2 BTC bonus = 8.15 BTC.

No one would cancel his whole account balance!

1) If he do no want his account balance, he would simply leave

2) If he continues to play, nothing worse than his account balance = zero can happen

Now tell me what is the reason to cancel your whole account balance instead of proceeding with 1) or 2)?

He did not complete the wagering requirement, we can't simply say statistically while involve in gambling. He may win or lose the entire balance before completing the requirement.
1) You can always calculate the EV and this is juridical fully valid. If a running online poker tournament is cancelled due to technical issues, they also calculate the expected value of your chips. It would be not only nonsense but also illegal to say players did not finish the tournament and may win or lose the entire balance and therefore their balance is now zero!

2) During the bonus canceling process the system indeed states in text form that the Locked Balance amount will be substructed from your balance, but as the buttons state large and bold |BONUS| and |Cancel Bonus| no one is able to understand it and this is (intentional) misleading and therefore juridical not valid!

3) No one would or wants to cancel his whole balance! The sense of the bonus canceling is that I want to get rid of the bonus and the wagering requirements.

4) At the time when the victim was misleaded to cancel his whole balance, the expected value of his balance after clearing the bonus is 8.15 BTC and this is the amount duckdice has to give him or restore his account how it was prior to click |Cancel Bonus|.

Thought you have something new to add so I unignored you. Congrats making it back to my Ignore list.

Funny how you try to squeeze them for more like a collections agent trying to reach a quota. :p
1425  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UFC 214: Cormier vs Jones 2 Info and Prediction Thread on: July 30, 2017, 06:14:52 AM
my main picks

Renan Barao
Tyron Woodley
Ricardo Lamas


smaller plays

Daniel Cormier
Robbie Lawler
Volkan Oezdemir
Brian Ortega
Josh Burkman

lol im so sick i only got to bet josh then my internet went down so i missed ortega then it came back on so i could bet barrao lolol then it went down again and i missed volkan, robbie, lamas and woodly and then my internet came back for me to bet DC lmao im so fucking pissed right now what should have been a big winning card i ended up losing 4btc fuck me

Wtf is wrong with your connection?
That just got to be a joke right?

I would cut my ISP right away if this happens to me.
1426  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: July 30, 2017, 06:06:52 AM
I could claim the hourly satoshis without completing any captcha right now.

Captcha didn't appear and I clicked "Roll" and it worked... You should give a look on it, maybe it's bugged and malicious users can abuse it somehow.

Same here.

Thought they purposely removed that requirement?
Have claimed around 9 times this week different time,date but all without having to complete captcha.
1427  Economy / Gambling / Re: Fortunejack delaying payments on: July 30, 2017, 05:59:21 AM
Give Natalie a PM. Listed here as user Fortunejack.

Chat support might be able to help as well but Natalie is just the best person to contact. Smiley

I have sent a DM to that user about 10 hours ago, will see what they respond with. Thanks

Never did I see Natalie to fail a fair request.
Always try to help and thats how all Community Manager should be.

And you're welcome.
1428  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 13 BILLIONTH BETS SOON🎁Most Popular Dice & Roulette🎁 on: July 30, 2017, 05:56:31 AM
Hello
i have played dice here for many times.But my question is should i dice at freebitco.in or at bitser.com more easy to win more bitcoin

 it is much easier to win bitcoins at bitsler due to many reasons,the main being that it has a much lower
house edge compared to freebitcoin: 1% to 5%
freebitcoin was initially designed as a free faucet,it operated on ad based revenue,where the owner was paying out
a portion of the priofit he was getting from traffic to his site,while bitsler has always been a gambling site with multicurrency support and different games,too
in any case,you will require luck and skills to be winning,but at bitsler one can be sure the game is fair,his winnings are paid without any delay and there are good chances to win using the free faucet it provides for all



In both sites this game is fair and they will pay you without any delay if you have the minimum funds to withdraw. I don't think you win a money from just a faucet amount from both sites. You may be simply wasting your time to try your luck. But playing on lower house edge always better particularly when you deposit your money to play.

the rolls are fair in both places because they both have a provably fair system in place.
but the lottery part of the other site is not fair because last time i checked they had no mechanism in place to prove otherwise. and they are selling lottery tickets to a game that may not be fair. maybe that is what he had in mind when he said freebitcoin is not fair.

It looks like you wrote this comment without checking the latest update on freebitcoin site. If I'm not wrong admin has already implemented a new system to verify even lotteries now. You can check their thread to get more details about it. Anyway, for winning lottery needs to be very lucky.

no i don't check that site that often, it is only a faucet for me that i have an old account which has some referrals that are generating me some income. i sometimes advertise the link and sometimes check it out to see what is happening there Smiley
last time i checked they didn't have any system for their lottery verification. but you are correct, they seem to have added a new system with a server seed for it now.

Talking about another site?

You should have that discussion in a different thread.
This is Bitsler thread and should only be for bitsler discussion.
1429  Economy / Gambling / Re: Fortunejack delaying payments on: July 30, 2017, 05:52:50 AM
Give Natalie a PM. Listed here as user Fortunejack.

Chat support might be able to help as well but Natalie is just the best person to contact. Smiley
1430  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: July 29, 2017, 10:34:18 PM
will freebitcoin be halting all the transactions come 1st of August?
not sure if anyone would want to exchange his bitcoins for BCC (Bitcoin cash)
unless it starts off with a ridiculously high price tag

They must be ceasing transaction for a day. Though I might be wrong.
If I am wrong would you deposit to play here? :p
1431  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: July 29, 2017, 10:31:04 PM

Tried it yesterday, was so lucky to get 65 freespins and won 57mbtc from the freespins. Really a nice game with so many ways to win. It might be my new favorite slots to play at Fortunejack.

Sweet Win you have.

I'll make sure to try it out once we get paid from our signature campaign.
How much is the min bet per line?
1432  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: July 29, 2017, 10:19:22 PM
In most religions I know of gambling is a sin as it promotes greediness in people and some sort of  inequality among people when they make a lot of money, but of course others might argue that in some rare cases it elevates one standard of living such that the come from rags to riches which removes them from suffering. Afaik people are reluctant about the whole gambling is a sin these days Roll Eyes
I don't  believe it's a sin because I am doing it regularly, gambling does not destroy my life and in fact I am having fun doing it.
With that said, I guess if you are not responsible in gambling you will not gonna enjoy gambling and that way you will sin but not the gambling establishment itself.
I don’t agree with you at all. Gambling is sin from religious point of view. It is destructive in nature because the gamer gets addicted to it. After addiction, majority loses all in order to double their money. All are not wise like you. If you are making profit continuously, that is just because your odds are with you.


Religious rules are made to be dealt with responsibly, gambling is strictly prohibited by religion but if we do not imply what is implied as negative elements such as injuring others, self-destructing, then gambling is still worth doing, besides religious law, there is still a positive law we can do.

Gambling can be Morally wrong and legally wrong if:

moral : if gambling makes you destroy yourself or others.etc.

Legal : if you gamble in prohibited areas. Or gamble without permit.
1433  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 13 BILLIONTH BETS SOON🎁Most Popular Dice & Roulette🎁 on: July 29, 2017, 10:02:16 PM
That is a cool give away and congrats on your 13 billions bets and congrats to the lucky winners,it is really amazing to see how big the site has become in a short time,i have read from some of the posters about a new forum ,if that is true i would like to know the address just to have a sneak peek.

forum.bitsler.com

You do not need to create an account as your bitsler account would be linked.
1434  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ 777Coin Signature Campaign ★☆★ (Jr-Hero Accepted) on: July 29, 2017, 09:51:33 PM
Isn't it your job also to ensure that participants get paid as an escrow.
It is, which means that funds in escrow for the BitVest campaign will be used to pay participants of the BitVest campaign.
Both campaigns will be stopped on Monday should I not receive any word from lightlord before and only resumed once I got funds for outstanding and future rounds.

Sorry about my question above, just curious and a bit worried as I don't know where to get BCC to pay for something.
This campaign pays in BTC, pre and after the fork.
Any potential alternative chains with adjusted network rules do not influence this, we're a bitcoin paying campaign, not a campaign paying in altcoins.

Yes sir I understand that.
Thing is, if only we were paid on time last round(and have kept btc in a storage where we have private key), then after August 1, I should have BCC to pay my lender.

Personal trouble that I am facing and I just don't know what to do. (but I guess that is my problem)

-sigh-
1435  Economy / Lending / Re: ✩✫✬✭✮✯✰ LONE 💲HARK LOAN💲 ✰✯✮✭✬✫✩ [CLOSED till after August 1][Revamping] on: July 29, 2017, 08:56:01 PM
Hi LS,

In the event that I won't be able to repay you until after Aug 1 which is my original due date, would I be required(by contract) to send you BCC as well?

I am not saying I won't however my signature campaign is having a 2 rounds instead of the weekly payout. I would have paid you with the discount you offered if we got paid last round.

So I am looking for Options in case I don't get hold of BCC 'til my due date.
1436  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ 777Coin Signature Campaign ★☆★ (Jr-Hero Accepted) on: July 29, 2017, 08:44:36 PM
In the unlikely event that you don't get a top-up 'til next payout, would you be willing to pay us from bitvest.io campaign wallet?
Absolutely not.

I was just saying that if lightlord send the money for the next week then I guess he could have the chance to pay lesser amount because of the current happening this august tho it was just my opinion
Talk to lightlord.
I can only work with the funds I'm getting, when I'm getting them.
Isn't it your job also to ensure that participants get paid as an escrow.
Sorry about my question above, just curious and a bit worried as I don't know where to get BCC to pay for something.

1437  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔶 YOLOdice.com 🔶 FAST play/invest, level up, win more, have fun! on: July 29, 2017, 08:31:46 PM
Yolodice would not support BCC just like most gambling sites.
Great.

Will you guys have a maintenance on Aug 1 or the site will be open?

But our payday for being in the signature campaign for the site fall on this day August 1st.
So if it does affect any bitcoins in out wallets what are you going to do to ensure we can withdraw before then without any issues?
Maybe issuing the payments tomorrow the 30th instead of waiting until July31st-August 1st would need to be done to ensure everybody is able to withdraw their bitcoins off the site in a timely and orderly fashion. Undecided

You should post this in your signature campaign thread instead of posting it here.

1438  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ 777Coin Signature Campaign ★☆★ (Jr-Hero Accepted) on: July 29, 2017, 08:14:16 PM
I doubt that this would be a two round pay. I am thinking it in the first place anyways if what would lightlord do for this round since next week is already august. I might be wrong but that is how i feel
I dont have sufficient funds to cover this round, it's gonna be a two week round.


Understood Smiley I was just saying that if lightlord send the money for the next week then I guess he could have the chance to pay lesser amount because of the current happening this august tho it was just my opinion

Payments will be the same amount of btc. no more no less.



In the unlikely event that you don't get a top-up 'til next payout, would you be willing to pay us from bitvest.io campaign wallet?
1439  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▂▃▅▆█ BITSLER █▆▅▃▂🎁 13 BILLIONTH BETS SOON🎁Most Popular Dice & Roulette🎁 on: July 29, 2017, 08:02:14 PM
For a site that was registered only last October 2015 (657 days) and will be celebrating its 13 Billionth bet, that means this site is handling 19 million bets a day, that s an added milestone to the site and a great achievement. Kudos to the support team and those working behind the scenes of Bitsler.com
For some websites it's even hard to get million bet monthly. As I see sig campaign did a good job for bitsler, these last months they got great results, 1 billionth bet monthly, ohh so huge, amazing and also there are usually nearly 4000 players online. It will be interesting to see what will be forum's future, how popular it will become.
Also don't forget guys, when I asked some questions to Baryom, he said that we will see some surprise.
Not even a billion bets monthly but this time the thirteenth billionth bet was reach after 19 days of the 12 billionth bet which means that we are seeing a bigger leap of Bitsler when it comes to the number of Bets. Reaching a Billion Bets in less than 20 days is a great achievement for the site. Additionally I think that the promotion help in order to increase the number of participants and bets in general as they are expecting more reward especially when the Billionth Bet number is near.

There was also an increase in my betting-per-day I have observed. Probably because of the promotion that I somehow try to win at. Smiley

I also see newcomers more often to be chatting and a few oldies coming back.

Congrats and thank you for sponsoring a meet-up for my fellow players(ph).
1440  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: my new sport diary with bitcoin bets to double a 1 BTC bank on: July 29, 2017, 07:35:55 PM
What a nice day it is.

Quote
64       0.05        2.160            -  0.054                  0.116146
This one have typo error in OP. It says - 0.054 instead of -0.05

announcing game 69th

bet is done with 0.05 for 1.943 on the home team to win

wish me good luck

All the best. Smiley
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