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1441  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Bounty sebagai pekerjaan utama? on: October 24, 2023, 11:57:49 PM
Kebutuhan masing-masing individu tentunya sangat berbeda, semakin besar beban yang ditanggung, semakin banyak uang yang dibutuhkan. 2023 bukan lagi zaman mengandalkan penghasilan dari Bounty, jika pada tahun 2017 dan 2018 mungkin hasil dari Bounty Bounty bisa mengalahkan pendapat kepala dinas, saat ini jika sekali mendapat jackpot langsung kebeli mobil.
Pastinya, semakin besar kebutuhan, semakin besar income yang diperlukan. Jika sudah berkeluarga dengan 2 anak, hasil dari bounty tidak akan mampu mencukupi kebutuhannya. Kecuali masih sendiri atau masih anak kuliahan, bisa saja berharap penghasilan dari bounty karena income utama masih dari orang tua.

Ya, di tahun 2017-2018, bounty altcoins banyak yang surprise. Di tahun-tahun itu ikut sigcamp bisa kebeli motor atau bahkan mobil. Tapi untuk saat ini, tidak mungkin penghasilan dari bounty berharap beli mobil, bahkan dapat motor dalam setahun pun belum tentu.  Cheesy

Sekarang anda bisa melihat fenomena yang ada di forum, khusunya member lokal Indonesia, 90% member yang aktif di forum menggunakan kode tanda tangan signature campaign bayaran Bitcoin , sementara yang 10% lagi bukan karena mereka masih setia pada Bounty atau berharap bisa mendapat Jackpot lagi, tetapi mereka kurang beruntung di signature campaign bayaran Bitcoin.
Jadi sangat jelas, bounty tidak bisa dijadikan pekerjaan utama, apalagi sekarang sangat sulit menemukan Bounty yang bisa menghasilkan Jackpot.
Iya, karena yang paling efektif yaitu dengan bergabung ke campaign signature berbayar Bitcoin. Karena untuk yang bayaran Bitcoin, hasilnya sudah terjamin masuk dompet per minggu. Sedangkan jika ikut campaign yang bayaran altcoins baru, belum tentu setelah distribusi bisa dijual di market. Bahkan ada yang sampe bertahun-tahun belum listing di mana pun. Jackpot sulit untuk diharapkan di masa-masa sekarang ini.

1442  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mari Kita Sambut, dan Meriahkan Halving Day! on: October 24, 2023, 11:50:43 PM
Thanks mas, jadi ini bukan hanya menjadi fundamental yang dapat meningkatkan antusiasme pasar btc pada tahun ini saja, namun ada semacam potensi jangka panjangnya. Tapi, ini jika benar disetujui, maka momen halving dan ETF saat ini, dengan prediksi $100K ATH bisa masuk akal. Melihat kondisi pasar hari ini yang memang terbawa sentimen ETF approval saja sudah berhasil melambungkan bitcoin, dengan halving momen, maka bukan tidak mungkin semester 2 hingga akhir 2024 dapat menjadi penguatan trend bullish untuk ATH baru.
Tentu ada potensi untuk jangka panjang walaupun kita tau kebijakan mereka sering berubah-ubah. Meskipun nantinya proposal ETF disetujui, bukan berati itu bisa menjamin sentimen positif untuk masa depan BTC selamanya. Bisa saja setelah 2-3 tahun kebijakan berubah lagi, tidak menutup kemungkinan kebijakan baru nantinya malah menimbulkan sentimen negatif lagi. Tapi karena banyak big player yang bermain, rasanya besar kemungkinan ETF proposal ini akan disetujui. Paling tidak sentimen positifnya bisa mendongkrak harga selama musim bullish. Karena mereka yang big player pasti juga mengharapkan keuntungan, mereka bakal ikut mendorong diterimnya ETF ini.

Mengenai ATH baru, saya setuju itu seharusnya mudah dicapai setelah halving jika potensi naiknya harga bisa seperti hari ini. Sehari saja bisa naik $5k, ini pun masih sebelum halving BTC. Apalagi jika itu momennya setelah halving, harusnya ada potensi naik harga lebih drastis dan lebih cepat.

1443  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 24, 2023, 11:38:26 PM
There have been speculations about Modric being invited by Cristiano Ronaldo to Al Nassr for quite a long time, but until now the news has not happened, recently Madrid management said that they would not intend to sell Modric to an Arab club even in January 2024 transfer market, but I am sure those words will not last long, so far Modric's playing time has decreased drastically, he may have to insist on moving if Madrid continues to keep him, Modric is one of the world's greatest midfielders even though he is no longer young, the team that got him is very lucky.
If the rumor was true, it is a great chance for Modric to continue his career in Al Nassr. He must get a bigger salary and he will be the main player again in Al Nassr. If he continues to stay in Real Madrid, he is getting rarely to play because Real Madrid has too many good midfielders. Moreover, the young midfielders of Real Madrid already perform as expected. I am sure Real Madrid will consider to sell Modric if there is an interesting offer from Al Nassr in the next transfer window. But I a bit doubt that Al Nassr really wants to hire Modric due to his current age. He is already 38 years old, and seems hard to maintain his good fitness in the next few years. I guess Modric only can play in a good level in the next 2 years. He probably considers to retire when he reaches 40.

1444  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 24, 2023, 11:27:51 PM
PlayerGoal
Lautaro Martínez
11
Victor Osimhen
6
Domenico Berardi
5
Nicolás González
5
Romelu Lukaku
5
Lautaro Martínez alone with 11 goals!!! The second is to -5 goals, wow! Lautaro golden ball?

No doubt Lautaro Martínez will be the top scorer of Serie A, unless he gets injured for a long time in the remaining of the season.
He scored 11 goals now, others only scored 5 goals. Moreover, Inter Milan performed well lately, Lautaro Martínez has a big chance to continue score many goals. Lautaro Martínez is in his best form this season.

Juventus's performance against big teams is not bad, just that they are supposed to be losing points against some mid-table teams if they want to compete and win the Seria A title. Consistency is the main goal of every team, and if a team is consistent, they will definitely go far.
Yes, Juventus is strong enough, they often beat top teams in Serie A. They sometimes get a defeat when they played against smaller teams, that's because they can't keep their good motivation to win in any matches. They sometimes may a bit underestimate the smaller teams. So, they need to be more serious and more consistent if they want to join the race for Serie A Trophy.

1445  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 24, 2023, 11:02:58 PM
What an unbelievable ending in the Manchester United v Copenhagen match!  Cheesy
Actually, it should be an easy match for Man United. They are against the weakest team in group A and they play at home. In theory, Man United must win the match easily. But in fact, they almost got a draw. lol  Cheesy

First of all Manchester United were really inadequate in performance in the first half. They weren't even close to being likely to score a goal.
It was surprising that Man United got difficulty to play against Copenhagen in the first half. Man United may play under pressure, they think it was like a big match. And they also must get 3 points if they want to compete for 2nd place in group A. It may cause Man United bad performance in the first half.  Roll Eyes

The second half was much more hopeful for them. Maguire scored the winning goal while there were 20 minutes left finally. I wouldn't have thought that he would be the hero.  Grin  The match got even more interesting when McTominay caused a penalty literally in the last moments. But Onana made a wonderful save. Onana and Maguire carried their team to victory tonight!
Well, Maguire and Onana are the Hero today.
This is amazing, we know that these players often became the problem for Man United. But today, they became the Hero.
I can't believe that Maguire succeed to score goal in the right direction. Usually, he scored own goals.  Grin

1446  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Importance of emotion while trading on: October 23, 2023, 04:11:20 PM
There are many people who trade on BitcoinTalk forums. Those who trade must control their emotions. If not, you will have a huge loss in trading. Why emotion is needed while trading is as follows:
What is most certain is that when we can manage our emotions well, then at least we are in good condition to make trading decisions. On the other hand, when we lose control of our emotions, what happens is that we easily become panicked, angry, disappointed, hopeless, and ultimately decide everything without thinking, without careful consideration. As a result, this will disrupt our focus and also our efforts in trading, even ending in losing money easily when we really can't control our emotions when trading.

Here are some ways to control these emotions
Apart from what you have explained in the list, there are actually basic things about controlling emotions, namely how we can also control emotions in everyday life. This definitely requires a certain process, practice and experience. Sometimes, we have to deal with various things first so that our emotions are more mature and so that we can really start to focus on controlling our emotions. especially in trading, experience will really help us to better understand ourselves and be able to train to control our emotions. And this happens if we really want to learn. If not, it's the same.
1447  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Advice to friend for financial improvement. on: October 23, 2023, 04:06:02 PM
.. Now if someone invests in Bitcoin with the same amount of money to buy an iPhone, it is expected that in 2-4 years he will be able to buy 1 iPhone with the investment profit. Also, Bitcoin halving in 2024, investment during this time can be very profitable. With that in mind, I suggested buying bitcoins instead of buying iPhones in my local thread. ..
The period may not be as precise. That is, if it is between 2-4 years, if it is 4 years later than this year, maybe that is when the bearish is happening. Meanwhile, on the other hand, a bullish era may occur after the halving, perhaps around 2024-2025. So, the actual amount of knowledge will not guarantee that our money in Bitcoin investment will really increase. because, you should take profits at the right time, namely during the bullish era. Even though we don't fully know when this will happen, at least we can watch the market and its developments.

But actually, I also agree that I would rather use that money to invest in Bitcoin than buying an iPhone. However, this will also depend on each person's condition. If you don't have financial problems, you don't need to worry about buying an iPhone as a self-reward. On the other hand, sometimes, someone buys an iPhone to do some nicer, smoother, smoother, and professional things when using an iPhone. So, this will again depend on individual conditions and needs. What is certain is, avoid having high style when our financial condition is not that good, just for prestige.
1448  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 23, 2023, 03:38:46 PM
I don't find any experienced players in the squad.
Ter Stegen, Gundogan, I. Martinez, Cancelo, Christensen, and Felix are experienced players. These players became the starters in the match against Athletic Club. It is a bit strange if you didn't see them as experienced players.  Huh

Then the match strategy that Xavi developed is absolutely admirable.
Xavi always makes good tactics. But it can't be optimal if Barcelona is missing too many key players. There are many injured players now, Xavi gets difficulty to choose proper players for the starting lineup.

Barcelona played full defensive in the first half. Barcelona did not try to attack too much. However  in the second half, they changed the match strategy.
It is not like a true Barcelona that we know. As far as I know, Barcelona always applies offensive tactic. Playing with a defensive tactic against a team like Athletic Club, seems not very satisfying. How if they play against Real Madrid? Will Xavi apply a defensive tactic in the whole of the match? Personally, I'm not satisfied with Barcelona current performance.

1449  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 23, 2023, 03:26:31 PM
I don't think anyone in Barcelona was seriously thinking about bringing Messi back. It’s one thing to do PR to get the support of nostalgic fans and just create information noise, and another thing to do this unrealistic thing.
And I can make a prediction: such rumors will appear for several more years (maybe even after Messi retires), this is the same as the story with Elvis Presley - some fanboys still think that he is alive and is about to be found (although even just biologically he should be dead).
You're right. There is no advantage to bring back Messi to Barcelona. Messi's salary will burden the financial crisis in Barcelona since he has a big salary. Messi also demands to get a regular position in Barcelona front line, it may bother the development of some young talents in Barcelona squad. With this situation, I agree that Xavi or Barcelona president won't think to bring Messi back. When there is a rumor of Messi returns to Barcelona, it is probably a rumor only.

Sure, this rumor may continue to the next few years. The media always try to spread the rumor to make Barcelona fanatic fans be attracted. Because many people are Barcelona fans, the media get the advantage because people visit their news channel. More people read the news means the more advantage to get by the media.


1450  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 23, 2023, 03:09:47 PM
Galatasaray's biggest power, Mauro Icardi, was injured in the last Beşiktaş match. There is a situation where he cannot play. If he doesn't play for Galatasaray, this is good news for Bayern because we saw how good he was against Onana. He made a masterful finish for the third goal. If the probability of Bayern beating Galatasaray is 60%, I think this rate will increase to 80% without Icardi.
It is true that Icardi gets injured, it is a quite serious problem. There is no exact time when he can return, he must be absent against Bayern Munich. When Icardi can't play, I agree that Galatasaray attacking will reduce its power quite a lot. Not sure how the percentage of Bayern Munich to win the match, but in theory Bayern Munich should be easier to beat Galatasaray when it loses their machine goal. In the previous match, it was very obvious that Icardi has a big role in the front line of Galatasaray.

Napoli have proven that they are still strong even without their mainstay Victor Osimhen, in their last match in Serie A the Napoli team appeared strong even without Victor Osimhen, but if this striker plays of course Napoli's strength will be very strong.
Indeed. Napoli is still strong enough although Osimhen can't play against Union Berlin. They still have Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, Matteo Politano, and Giacomo Raspadori. These players played well in the last match of Serie A yesterday. Although it will be an away match against Union Berlin, it is no doubt if we consider the quality of Napoli squad.


1451  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you leave gambling if your future wife/husband tells you to do this ? on: October 23, 2023, 12:16:11 PM
Good, it seems you are wise gambler.
But when you really like gambling even if it just for entertainment and fun are you sure you can consider the advice to stop?
Maybe you will still gamble but in secret so that no one knows about it.
I know very well how gambler acts and responds to such problems so that there is only small percentage who can consider it and choose to stop leaving forever from the world of gambling.

But if you decide to stop for the sake of your family or for the sake of the people you love then that is wise decision.
I hope that the gambling you do does not have a significant negative impact on the people around you or you love.
It is true. When gambling already becomes a part of our life, it is difficult to stop it forever. That's why only few people who want to consider quitting gambling. For the gamblers who can get entertainment or fun from gambling, it seems like it has become a necessity. So, they can't be separated easily, they need a strong effort and intention to leave it. I assume, many people do gambling is like they smoke cigarettes.

Well, for the gamblers who stop gambling because of their family, it is a big challenge. I appreciate the people who can succeed in that way. We can't blame them, gambling isn't something a must. When you can't gamble in a proper way, quitting is surely the wright decision. But when we can gamble in the proper way, I assume it won't be a problem to keep gambling.

1452  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 23, 2023, 07:21:23 AM
So far it seems the Scudetto competition in this season will be for three clubs, AC Milan, Inter Milan and Juventus. Other clubs like Napoli, Fiorentina, Atalanta and Roma will compete for one or two positions in top four and top six of Serie A.
I think it is too early to judge only 3 teams joining the race of the champion. It is still matchday 9, we are very far from the end of the competition. At least, we should be in the second half of the season to know which teams to be the strong candidates for the champion. So, I think al the current top 5 still have the same chance to be the champion.

The appearance of Fiorentina in top of Serie A is surprising even they got a Conference League final match in the last season. Because they lost Amrabat, one of their most important players to Manchester United in the summer. Anyway it is a good continuation of Fiorentina with good improvements during last three seasons. Even transfers of Vlahovic, Amrabat don't make them weaker and their performances in this season are very good quality mark for their team.
Fiorentina has a good management to replace the key players who leave the team. Although there is no popular players in Fiorentina, but they still can play solidly. I think they can maintain their good performance because they always play as a unified team and they plan with a high confident. The coach also apply the wright tactics for Juventus squad.

Participation of competitors like AC Milan, Inter Milan and Napoli in Champions League will give Juventus more chance to take Scudetto in this season. Champions League is like a magnet for all clubs and competitors of Juventus will be distracted from Serie A in weeks with Champions League matches.
I don't think joining UCL makes Inter, Milan, or Napoli to lost their focus. It is not the first time that they play in UCL while playing in Serie A, too. They have enough players to play in several competitions. So, we don't need to feel doubt about their focus, they are familiar with the situation. They know what the solution to apply.

1453  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apakah kita membutuhkan Altcoin on: October 22, 2023, 11:59:34 PM
Ya, sampai saat ini tentunya saya masih membutuhkan altcoin karena dengan adanya altcoin bagi saya yang punya modal sedikit bisa berpotensi untung besar karena kenaikan harga altcoin selalu tinggi walaupun resikonya sangat tinggi juga.
Untuk yang punya keterbatasan modal atau modalnya receh, altcoin memang menjadi pilihan yang pas. Karena volatilitasnya lebih tinggi, maka ada potensi untuk naik lebih signifikan daripada Bitcoin. Apalagi untuk altcoin yang masih di tahap awal perkembangannya, mereka bisa naik berkali-kali lipat karena hype. Hype bisa timbul karena rencana listing di exchange besar, kemajuan proyeknya, banyak investor besar yang bergabung, parnership dengan perusahaan terkemuka, atau hal lainnya. Tapi memang benar, ada resiko besar dibalik itu semua. Jika salah pilih altcoin, bisa jadi altcoinnya delisting dan modal hilang percuma. Ada banyak altcoin yang delisting dengan berbagai alasan, termasuk scam atau penipuan oleh timnya sendiri.

Dan menurut saya dengan adanya altcoin tentunya juga akan meramaikan percryptoan atau bisa juga menjadi jembatan untuk mengenal btc dan saya banyak sekali melihat orang yang asalnya berinvestasi di altcoin ujung ujungnya berinvestasi di btc karena memang berinvestasi di btc memang yang paling aman
Pastinya altcoin lah yang meramaikan dunia crypto. Bisa dibayangkan jika tidak ada altcoin, maka pilihan investasi hanya BTC. Orang-orang mungkin tidak begitu optimis jika hanya BTC, apalagi dengan konsep desentralisasi. Beda hal dengan altcoin yang merupakan koin dari sebuah proyek, orang-orang lebih percaya karena jelas siapa owner atau developernya. Apalagi beberapa altcoin diciptakan oleh proyek atau perusahaan yang punya produk yang jelas di real life. Dengan adanya altcoin-altcoin ini, maka orang lebih mudah percaya kepada Bitcoin karena disupport oleh proyek-proyek dari altcoin-altcoin tersebut.

Untuk orang-orang baru, kadang mereka mulai dari koin hype dulu. Mereka itu ikut-ikutan investasi crypto, padahal mereka kurang wawasan. Buktinya mereka banyak yang tidak tau adanya BTC. Tapi setelah mereka tau BTC koin yang paling aman untuk investasi, mereka bakal memprioritaskan BTC.

1454  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 22, 2023, 11:55:53 PM
I can't call this performance very well honestly. The first half performance of Barcelona was really poor. I wouldn't have been surprised if they even finished the half 1-0 behind. Thankfully Barcelona started to collect themselves in the second half. We started to watch a much more positive effort from them.

The winning goal still came quite late though but at least they got what they needed from this game. It was the young player Guiu's first game with Barcelona in his career and he must be feeling amazing about scoring a goal only in a minute after entering the game.  Smiley  He is only 17 years old and I hope this goal makes a good increase in his self-confidence.
I agree with you. It was actually not a very good performance. Barcelona gets difficulty to develop their game in the first half, they played not effectively. They just played better in the second half, and they were lucky that a substituted player could score a single goal. If Xavi didn't release Guiu, the match may end up with a draw result.

According to this match, Barcelona seems too rely on some players in the attacking line, especially with Lewandowski. When Lewandowski can't play, Barcelona is difficult to score goals.

1455  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 22, 2023, 11:49:30 PM
It's worth mentioning that Ronaldo also said that his son has poor discipline, that it could prevent him from becoming a professional footballer. Maybe it's just because he's still a kid and then as he gets older he'll take it more seriously, so it's too early to tell if he'll have a career or not
Ronaldo stated it to his son because he has a big expectation for the future of his son. He reminds his son that it is not easy to be a success professional footballer, his son must be discipline if he wants to succeed. I think Ronaldo already gave a big lesson to his son, it will be something that his son must always remember in the future.

Anyway, I think it is no problem to tell about discipline very early. His son is already a teenager, it is important to discipline since he was a kid. Discipline will be hard to do if we never make it as our habit.

Messi has no motives of retuning back to Barcelona they both have made history now it is time to face a new path.
How do you know he has no motivation/intention to return to Barcelona?
He may have the intention to return to Barcelona but it is impossible because Barcelona is in the bad financial situation. Barcelona also probably focus on building their squad with young players, so they don't need Messi anymore.

Fati to Saudi Arabia should be seen as rumours it is not possible,  one of Europe finest players leaving at a young stage, its same thing too, a young player can leave from Saudi to Europe don't stop him from making decisions he thinks wise for himself.
Why Fati should go to Saudi league? I think he still has a long career, he must play in competitive leagues if he wants to develop his quality. I agree that it is unlikely that he will go to Saudi league. There are many European teams that want to sign him. He doesn't need to leave Europe.

1456  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and it effects on: October 22, 2023, 11:26:20 PM
It is not supposed to be for people whose economical situation is not stable, right. But that does not mean they will quit doing it.
Actually, there was a time here in my country when we were going through and pretty bad economical recession, and it sparked a huge fever for gambling all around the country.
Indeed. We gamble only with free money, it means when we have excess money. It is impossible for people who have unstable financial, they even have not enough money to fulfill daily necessities. Gambling mustn't bother the main money for urgent needs or daily necessities.

What do you mean by fever for gambling? Do people stop gambling immediately because of the recession?
When our country in a bad economic condition, it is normal that many people stop gambling. They probably gamble again when the economic situation is getting better.

It is something I did not read about, it was something I witnessed, it was quite a sad situation and many suffered, I wish from the bottom of my heart your or anyone in your family goes through it.   Sad
Because of it, I learn there must be some correlation between bad economical times and the need for gambling.
What you have learned exactly, brother?
The bad economic situation must always bring bad impacts to the people. But it will make the people be more careful to manage their money. When the economic condition returns to the normal again, people will have a better financial management. They will know how much the ideal money for gambling, they may not gamble excessively again.

1457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 95% of NFTs have a market cap of zero on: October 22, 2023, 11:00:28 PM
The unveiled reality of the NFT market: 95% of NFTs have a market cap of zero

The bearish market has been affecting the whole crypto industry downside, but regards NFT niche, it has been worst. Almost all NFTs have a market cap of zero, meaning investors and adopters have completely lost interest for them after so much hype and excitment we saw during the year of 2021.
Unfortunately, this is an inevitable fact. Maybe there are still NFTs that are truly worth it and have enough market cap to fight for, but this is definitely not easy. Like the various altcoins in the crypto world, they are also the same, many of which end up going bankrupt, dying, and also becoming shitcoins. This is not surprising in the crypto world, especially with the various hype things that are happening, such as the NFT hype too, there are definitely times for hype and drops like now. The next question is, can they survive and rise again as significantly as when they first appeared and were hyped? This will be a harder job to do.

Does it mean NFT is a scam sector of crypto market, or is their concept good, but the execution of the projects are wrecking everything? Is it still possible for NFTs to recover their credibility?
Some maybe not, maybe there are a few percent who are really good and will continue to survive in the bullish era. However, we know that like before in crypto projects, they really have a scam agenda, especially with the NFT hype at that time, so that many parties immediately created various NFT products, even NFTs that really surprised us and never imagined them previously.
1458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you prepare for a Bitcoin bull run? on: October 22, 2023, 10:53:39 PM
It's about 185 more days till a 2024 Bitcoin halving.
I'm really waiting for this, I am sure not only I am, but also most people in Bitcoin.
Let's prepare this 9actually it should be from previous times.

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#Bitcoin is going to $100k here is why -
I don't know whether this price will really be realized in the next bullish era. But what is certain is that I personally have or will set several price targets that Bitcoin might achieve, at least starting from last season's ATH and several other stages. This is to avoid undesirable things like before, because you had too high hopes, you actually lost the moment to take profits and ended up regretting it. However if it really was going to $100k, it would be exactly great.

If you are a witness in a big bull run but you lose access to your wallets, it's damn terrible.
Exactly, damn terrible, maybe it can only mourn a life full of regret and sadness for some people. Therefore, creating a good backup and security system is very necessary to avoid unwanted things. There's no harm in starting to cross-check and prepare it now so that tomorrow you won't be rushed.

btw, good luck on adding more Bitcoin accumulation, the more, the better.
1459  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Apakah anda suka trading di altcoin yang sedang Pum? on: October 21, 2023, 10:43:28 PM
Setuju banget gan yang anda katakan, Resikonya amat sangat besar untuk kehilangan uang kita, apalagi coin baru launching di mainkan oleh paus paus, yang juga ingin memperoleh keuntungan banyak juga, ya ibarat nya kita juga ikut Cemplung alt yang sedang pump ya sudah lah , kita ni ibaratnya hanya plangton untuk tinggal di hap nya oleh paus paus yang memiliki modal sangat besar.
Iya, resiko trading koin baru itu sangat tinggi. Bukan hanya whales atau big trader yang memainkan harga, kadang timnya pun ikut bermain dengan harga. Mereka bisa pump harga dengan isu-isu positif terkait perkembangan proyeknya. Misalnya dengan rencana listing di exchange besar, atau akan punya partnership dengan perusahaan besar. Sementara pemain-pemain kecil seperti kita pasti akan mudah terpancing dan terlena hold koinnya. Kalau kita bisa exit tepat waktu itu tidak masalah sebenarnya, yang sering kali terjadi kita telat exit. Ini resikonya karena hype koin baru itu sangat cepat berganti hanya dengan hitungan jam atau hari.

1460  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who among you here is gambling at work? on: October 21, 2023, 10:34:17 PM
People need to use their common sense, if someone at the office catches you playing solitaire or attending a personal call no one is going to make a big deal about it, but if one of your coworkers sees that you are gambling you can be sure they will report you and then you may get fired for not giving your full attention to your job, and with good reason as the company you work for does not pay you to gamble but to do your job properly, something that gambling at the office will not allow you to do.
Agree. We need to understand that we go to the office to work. The company hires us to work seriously, they won't let us to do something like gambling at the office. Gambling probably ruins the focus, specifically when we get losses. How we can work properly if we have a bad mood after losing some money in gambling. So, gambling at office will ruin the quality of work in the office. I can't imagine if many workers do it.

Sure, the company demands our loyalty, seriousness, and the quality of working. They surely don't pay us for gambling, it doesn't make sense to gamble at office. If the managers or the owner find out the workers to gamble at office, it is very possible they sack the workers.

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