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South Park most definetely!!
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Hallo! Op www.coins2cash.eu kunt u uw bitcoin(s) verkopen voor contant geld. Nadat u uw cryptocurrency heeft verkocht aan onze webshop kunt u een afspraak met ons maken. Ons kantoor is gevestigd in het centrum van Amsterdam. Zodat u gemakkelijk uw contant geld kunt ophalen. Coins2Cash rekent een 4,5 % commissie fee. U bent niet verplicht om uw bankgegevens te verstrekken. Coins2cash werkt met een twee-staps vertificatie, dit betekent dat alleen u of een kennis het geld kan ophalen. Mocht u verder nog vragen hebben kunt u contact opnemen met onze helpdesk info@coins2cash.eu. Team Coins2Cash Kan het ook in persoon worden getransferred? Dus niet eerst via de webshop, maar gewoon alles in persoon  |
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Kraken.com is voordeliger + het kan naar je rek worden overgeschreven
Lekker anoniem ook kraken met je bankrekening.... jeez Als je nou nog btc-e noemt met visa, maar die fees zijn hoger he... |
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Cloud mining is a zero sum game.
You can't earn btc from using cloud mining. They only chance you can win is if you trade cloud mining shares in cex.io.
Simply not true, LTCgear.com breaks even in about 12/14 weeks... |
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I suggest you not to invest in cloud mining because many cloud mining services are nothing but HYIPs.
Anyway, even if they are legit, the ROI takes too long to be reached.
I agree, however even if the cloud mining company is not a ponzi/hyip most cloud mining contracts will need to have the difficulty rise unrealistically slow in order to potentially ROI period. That is why some of them allow you to trade the contracts. This feature also gives you a way to bail out should you need to. CEX.io's maintenance fees is much higher than the payout so you would get negative payouts, the cloudmining there is already unrealistic. On the otherhand, if you are looking to profit, the best way is to trade. However, without sufficient experience and funds, you would most likely not profit. Trading is like gambling, you have the potential to lose in the long run unless you are experienced. LTCGEAR.com or pbmining, but pbmining is anonymous, so LTCgear.com is the safest, roi in 10 to 14 weeks. LTCGear seems to be quite new, I haven't seen any proof of ASICs actually mining. I wouldn't regard them as the safest as they could potentially run away once they have gained a lot of deposits. Also, you cannot sell the hashrate whenever you want to. Uhm, they have proof and the man behind is ltcgear is well-known, unlike PB mining. |
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Ik heb nog wat mining spullen staan die ik eventueel wel wil verkopen, dat ligt aan de geboden prijs Indien je interesse hebt graag aangeven om welke producten het gaat en wat je ervoor over hebt! 1) 2x bitburner furry (bij 1 is de usb poort kapot, is doorgelust en werkt nu dus met 1 usb poort!) +/- 80/90 gh/s 2) 6x gridseed miners, de ronde 5 chip versie. Heb bij allemaal de koelers eraf gesoldeert. Kunnen wel worden meegeleverd, net als de orginele doosjes. Totale mining speed +/- 2,16mh/s Wat wil je zelf voor de gridseeds hebben? |
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kan het ook in persoon getranferred worden, ipv eerst tranferren en daarna pas geld op halen  |
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The new websites looks much better, kudo's!!
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I suggest you not to invest in cloud mining because many cloud mining services are nothing but HYIPs.
Anyway, even if they are legit, the ROI takes too long to be reached.
I agree, however even if the cloud mining company is not a ponzi/hyip most cloud mining contracts will need to have the difficulty rise unrealistically slow in order to potentially ROI period. That is why some of them allow you to trade the contracts. This feature also gives you a way to bail out should you need to. CEX.io's maintenance fees is much higher than the payout so you would get negative payouts, the cloudmining there is already unrealistic. On the otherhand, if you are looking to profit, the best way is to trade. However, without sufficient experience and funds, you would most likely not profit. Trading is like gambling, you have the potential to lose in the long run unless you are experienced. LTCGEAR.com or pbmining, but pbmining is anonymous, so LTCgear.com is the safest, roi in 10 to 14 weeks. |
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did any asic got shipped earlier...ever  Yes .... Bitmain has before. I believe on S3 they did ( I could be wrong its been a bit). 4 sure! My s1's s3's came before the promised date, very pleased with bitmain. |
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Only issue the FTC is gonna run into is BFL did deliver some units and clearly was actively working on R&D (to some extent at least) so the only real solid case against them is misuse of company funds which is basically a hefty fine no jail time and more than likely no settlement on delayed orders, at most they may be forced to use any monarch cards they have in their cloud mining datacenter to send to customers which at 40 billion network difficulty would only make a few bucks a day. I doubt if any real repercussions will come about. One judge has already said he believes there was foul play and if he could he would lock the 3 of them up for the full 24 months.. yeah at best only 24 months for a multi million dollar scam so I seriously doubt if there will be any satisfactory justice for those of us that were duped.
"Some units", yes. But how many? If you only ship half of what you promised, while refusing refunds to the rest after you convince them to upgrade to the next, much more powerful hardware generation (in exchange for a 10% restocking fee, natch), that's a deceptive business practice as well. Not to mention the fact that NONE of the shipped units, aside perhaps from the first few that went to special friends, delivered the yield BFL promised, due to the extensive delays. And don't forget their massive "burn-in" farms, which comprised up to 3% of the entire network and poured their proceeds directly into BFL's pocket. In financial circles, that's called the "skim", and it's illegal as hell (not least because of the additional shipping delays it caused - taking BTC that should have gone directly into customers wallets). I don't know if failure to disclose that BFL purchased Eclipse way back in June 2012 - a fact that wasn't revealed until the release of a deposition - is deceptive as defined under law, but it was certainly unethical. If they failed to disclose their millions in BTC income, because they believed it untraceable, then they might be looking at many years of turning large rocks into smaller rocks. The BFL Three just got an extra week to provide the evidence demanded by the court. Come back next week when they ask for another week, but aren't granted it. I completely agree with you, I also hope I'm wrong and they get locked up. I'm just looking at it from a legal perspective and while yes everybody knows they acted in a very deceptive way and drained I believe it was 40 million dollars from company funds to enrich their lifestyles it has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that they set out from the beginning to never deliver and since they did deliver on a fraction of what they sold and proved they were in active development it will be near impossible to prove what their mind set was. As I said I whole heartedly hope I'm wrong and that the judge is willing to bend the law a little to see them behind bars where we all know they belong however if that did happen I am fairly confident the decision could easily be overturned by a different judge in appeals court. Although they are clearly guilty as sin it's not what we know it's what can be proven in court and in my opinion the prosecution will have a difficult time proving what BFL's intentions were because they clearly stated no refunds and late deliverys can be claimed as simply manufacturering delays the only solid case I see is misuse of company funds. Hopefully I'm wrong. What BFL did and does, is in fact the corporate view on marketing, bullshit innovations, while earning very high profits, corporate America applauds BFL.... |
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pffff, it aint proof, here look at my proof
600 euro tranferred, recieved...
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Moderator, please do your job and close this thread....
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This looks like it will be a nightmare to check for the 50 posts, not including posts in this thread. Some could be short just for including the posts here, then what will happen? I await to see people paid out, and I wonder what results this campaign gave.
Almost everyone has exactly enough, which goes to show how many of these are not normal accounts. We will be paying out as promised for everyone, however this type of marketing is saturated by empty accounts who only become active when it's time to post their bare minimum. Only a small handful of users actually look like real posters. The rest of them post 3 word sentences in random threads until they reach their 50 post count. We won't be coming back here for another campaign -- It was a tough lesson for us. Payouts will happen within the next 48 hours. FYI - it looks like that schutzhund, JeffDeChesare, and _chance_ are the same person. They all spent their earnings on TXID bfd4075973cbe176c02a9524f38fadae35b371d07f96d0e8d470a761aab720cb shortly after payment was sent. PS - thanks for the payment. Doesn't even try hard to hide their tracks. It doesn't help when campaigns like gawminers blatantly encourage sign ups by multiple accounts. What a waste of money, I'm sure with proper investigation this guy would not been accepted to join this campaign. It's money that we're talking about, that dude earned $100 bucks with his alt accounts. PBmining should investigate all participants account history before accepting them, will save him a good bit of money. Don't be a sore loser  |
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I like you a whole lot better when you are being optimistic and mannerly. If you really mean to push the price higher, you'll need people to work together. Pick one exchange and have everyone be on that exchange at about the same time. Everyone buys some LTCD immediately from the sell orders (don't put in low buy orders that wait to be filled). Even if each person only buys 0.02BTC, the price will be moving upward. Very likely, other people on the exchange who aren't part of the community will see the candles and decide to start buying. The price will be going upward even more. The thing is, the price will gradually begin to slip back down over the course of a few days, if history repeats itself. This isn't yet the proper time for the price to stay up. Right now, the general trend in many coins is heading downward for various genuine reasons. So don't expect a miracle today. Glad to hear an update, If everyone will pull there sells order maybe we can get the price to rise. We got volume now, just need to push the price higher.
I'm invested neck deep in ltcd and efl, but this is exactly what I meant earlier. We need to form a group of about 20 to 30 btc. we buy up the sell order to a point of about 1500 satoshi, then place a big buy order (5/10 btc) on 15000 satoshis, so the price will keep steady. Then after the price stabalizes again, to do it again to 2500, and so on, and so on. The only way to get LTCD to what it's really worth, becasue some one is manipulating the coin downwards, they see the community, and want to break it down by destroying the price, don't let it happen. Long story short, who wants to place his bitcoin where his mouth is |
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Hi everyone, I'm looking to start mining, and the cloud miners, by GAW miners (the hashlet) look like a good deal. How long do you have these miners? 5 years? Also, are there any hidden fees I should be aware about? Thanks!
I will Prefer pbmining over hashlets.... BTCPBmining or LTCgear.com, both much better |
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All those videos that were submitted are bad and everyone who submitted one of those should FEEL bad. Sorry. I can't even vote for one as they all give me cancer  Crowdsourcing can't always choose the crowd it sources from. Seriously, someone voted on 2 or 3, really!? |
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Wish to enroll for the second trial |
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First time i know bitcoin, I do not care about altcoin, which i only pursue bitcoin, but as time goes by, I became interested and started looking for altcoin and of course, to exchange into bitcoin so I think altcoin not kill bitcoin but only innovation development of cryptocurrency, just my opinion  One of the Altcoins might become BTC 2.0 That's possible, but people seem to forget that the Bitcoin protocol can incoporate every function ever made up by other altcoins, and I do mean EVERYTHING. So alts are just trial and errors or succeses, to which it can en can't be incoporated in the Bitcoin protocol. You're entirely wrong and know so little about altcoins. The Bitcoin protocol Can NOT incorporate every function an altcoin has. Altcoin that do Not use Bitcoins code, and/or greatly modified Bitcoin's source code cannot have their features copied into Bitcoin. This includes all Cryptonote coins which don't use Bitcoin's source code at all (Monero etc), and all the others that don't use Bitcoin's source code(NXT etc) It's 0's and 1's, everything can be incorporated, only in another code, don't be naive |
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The sell wall of over 5 btc is something to worry about, someone is doing this on purpose...
Yes. Forcing price down with a handfull of bitcoin and then pump it well over 1000-1500 , making people think they are missing the train to the moon now, and then sell. Itīs a normal tactic. And a very lucrative, too. When i see such a thing happending, i buy Yeah normally I agree, but there comes no pump, it all downward, since the beginning and the first pump. |
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