I understand this is probably not where I'm supposed to post, But I got my miners set up, I have a worker set up and my wallet key set, but I don't seem to be mining any coins or even getting payouts.. what gives? Am I missing something?
Are you getting accepted proofs of work? Shown in the client and under "my account" -> "workers" on the website. If so, then all is fine. How payouts work: Some payment info: The approximate mint speed shown in BitMinter client is just that, an approximation. Bitcoin mining is like a lottery. How often we find a block, and earn bitcoins from that block, is random. Each hash you process is like a lottery ticket. Each hash has a (very low) chance of producing a block. You get paid with coins from a block whenever a block is found by someone mining in the pool. Your share of the income from a block is determined by the amount of work that you did in the most recent 10 shifts at the time the block is found. Because of this, your daily income will vary with luck. That's often referred to as variance. There may also be some hours between two payouts if we are having bad luck and no blocks are found for a while. In addition to that there is a delay from the time you do some work until that work is fully paid. The work you do is registered in a shift, and then that work is credited with income from new blocks we find until its shift is no longer among the 10 latest shifts. This takes a few hours. If you turn off the prepay perk then there is an additional delay having to wait for blocks to confirm, which takes about 20 hours. So, assuming you have prepay on, if you do 24 hours of work and then look at the results, then only some of that work has been fully paid. The remaining work is still receiving pay, even if you stop mining. Needless to say that is not going to look very profitable, when you are looking at all the work you did but only part of the pay you are going to receive. Comparing pools by how much you get paid for 24 hours of mining is pointless. The comparison becomes "which pool has the best luck today?" You can't use that data for anything. The luck a pool has today has no influence on its luck tomorrow. Believing that it does is called "gambler's fallacy" which you can ready about on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacyIf you want to know how BitMinter's payouts have been over time you can read Organofcorti's very detailed analysis here: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/05/131-bitminter-and-luck.html |
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What/where should I buy a new cheap computer for just mining?
Maybe get a used laptop. Should be cheap and energy efficient. Or a raspberry pi or similar tiny computer. I'm not sure how well BitMinter client runs on them though - there hasn't been much testing. All right then. Any recommendations for an inexpensive ASIC?  Maybe an ASICminer block erupter USB (330 MH/s) or a Butterfly Labs Jalapeno (5+ GH/s). Make sure you check how long the waiting time will be before you order. I have a newbie question, and I don't know if this has been asked before. Does the bitminter client work with the UBUNTU web browser?
Any browser that can start java webstart when it sees a .jnlp file will work. Or you can start from the command line. Open up a terminal window and type: javaws http://bitminter.com/client/bitminter.jnlp
This is how you would start it if you have the java plugin disabled in your browser. |
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Unstable network at Black Lotus today. Took down mining 8 minutes. Stats were down a bit longer.
Will have to find another alternative if Black Lotus has too much unannounced downtime like this.
Update: Note that if mining works then mining works. Live stats are sometimes not recovering automatically after connection issues, but that's only the live stats. This will be adressed in a future software update on the servers.
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Wow, congratulations, WhitePhantom |
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BitMinter does merged mining with stratum, getblocktemplate and getwork. It's a significant extra income with your mining, so it would be highly recommended for good return on investment for your ASICs.
BitMinter also has only 1% mining fee.
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Black Lotus is doing emergency maintenance, and that took the mining server offline for what looks like 22 minutes.
Connectivity appears to be back though. Not sure if their maintenance is completely done, but I hope there won't be more interruptions.
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Why does the Bitminter client acceleratometer still show 0.00 after 7 days of mining?
I do get the coins added to my account.
Must be a bug. I see your Icarus/block erupter shows a hashrate, but the total hashrate is still zero. I haven't seen this happening myself, so I'm not sure what would cause it. |
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I'm currently running this with no anti virus and it's working ok but I'd like to have something compatible it there is something.
I'm setting up this account in preparations for some more serious hardware but am currently mining with an old video card. The miner says I'm doing 20 mh/s but the dial still show's zero. This may be normal with such a slow card but It would be nice if you could reassure me of this.
Also the performance for the card shows I should be mining 0.0003 bitcoins/day but the overall performance is showing zero.
The website is trying to estimate your hashrate based on how often you send in proofs of work. For low hashrates this doesn't really work well and it will often show zero. You could check out the AVG forums or support for how to make AVG work with java webstart. Many users have had problems with this. |
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The pool is back up. There was a communication problem with a backend server. Downtime 12-13 minutes. Apologies for the inconvenience.
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Where did Cloudhashing go? Plans to bring them back?
Cloudhashing is there |
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I understand what an estimate is, but is it right? Just because "It is calculated the same way that dozens of bitcoin mining calculators you will find around different websites." Doesn't really make it right and if it is truly random, then why estimate at all? Estimating a random act is saying is like guessing a die will role a 1 , 10 times in a minute. If you said in the last 1000 rolls, 100 where a 1, it is still random. THat it could be easily 200 the next 1000 rolls. So it doesn't really mean anything. So why say it at all? So finding a 1 block in 24hours, and 9 blocks in 24 hours is completely random, so saying someone can earn .15 a day, is completely random too.
Of course the estimate is correct. And of course it makes sense to calculate this average. If you roll dice that can have a value from 1 to 6 then the average over time will converge on 3.5. This number, 3.5, is useful information, and therefore we present this data. I'm not sure what you mean with "completely random". There are different probabilities and interesting things you can calculate based on them. If you think that you are born with bad luck and will always have bad luck, or you think that if anything is random there is nothing more to be said about it, or that you can read something important out of how lucky the last few blocks were: please check out organofcorti's thorough analysis at http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/05/131-bitminter-and-luck.htmlDid you disable the Java cache? http://247support.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/10166/%7E/enable-java-to-cache-filesSo that would mean that a MacBook Pro is basically worthless for mining?
Yes, unless you plug an ASIC into it Yeah, not just CPU mining but even GPU mining is too inefficient to be profitable these days. Plug in an ASIC or two and your Mac can feed them work just fine. |
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discuss
Believing old luck has an effect on future luck is called gambler's fallacy. It's some sort of weird superstition, i.e. wrong. Wikipedia has a page for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacyBelieving bad luck never happens, is there a name for that? How can we convince people that bad luck will happen naturally and should be expected? Any good internet resources for this? What about those who believe they are born with bad luck and if luck is involved then it will always be bad for them. It seems often impossible to convince them of anything else. |
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Does anyone know of a good iPhone app for tracking mining stats at BitMinter?
The apps that support BitMinter are listed under "tools" -> "third party apps" in the website menu. I'm new at bitcoin mining. I've been up and running and this is my 3rd week. Does anyone really hit the Aprrox mint speed that shows on the App? I find I get know where near that. If it says you are going to make .15 a day, shouldn't you get close in a 3 week period? Maybe that figure should be adjusted to more realistic value? Is that based on the last 500 blocks? I would like to see a more current value based on the last 20. What do you think?
The approximate mint speed is the average you will earn. It is calculated the same way that dozens of bitcoin mining calculators you will find around different websites. Some payment info: The approximate mint speed shown in BitMinter client is just that, an approximation. Bitcoin mining is like a lottery. How often we find a block, and earn bitcoins from that block, is random. Each hash you process is like a lottery ticket. Each hash has a (very low) chance of producing a block. You get paid with coins from a block whenever a block is found by someone mining in the pool. Your share of the income from a block is determined by the amount of work that you did in the most recent 10 shifts at the time the block is found. Because of this, your daily income will vary with luck. That's often referred to as variance. There may also be some hours between two payouts if we are having bad luck and no blocks are found for a while. In addition to that there is a delay from the time you do some work until that work is fully paid. The work you do is registered in a shift, and then that work is credited with income from new blocks we find until its shift is no longer among the 10 latest shifts. This takes a few hours. If you turn off the prepay perk then there is an additional delay having to wait for blocks to confirm, which takes about 20 hours. So, assuming you have prepay on, if you do 24 hours of work and then look at the results, then only some of that work has been fully paid. The remaining work is still receiving pay, even if you stop mining. Needless to say that is not going to look very profitable, when you are looking at all the work you did but only part of the pay you are going to receive. Comparing pools by how much you get paid for 24 hours of mining is pointless. The comparison becomes "which pool has the best luck today?" You can't use that data for anything. The luck a pool has today has no influence on its luck tomorrow. Believing that it does is called "gambler's fallacy" which you can ready about on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacyIf you want to know how BitMinter's payouts have been over time you can read Organofcorti's very detailed analysis here: http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2013/05/131-bitminter-and-luck.html |
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I have tried every OS I could find. Closest i got was the problem I posted before using the hard float raspbian. I spent 2 days straight trying to get it up and running before I gave up and switched to minepeon. Which version of java did you use? Did you use Icedtea and if so what version?
I believe it was Raspbian with openjdk. It took about 60 seconds to start, or at least it felt that way, but it ran ok after it finally got up and running. |
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Beta seems to be working great for me!
EDIT: My only comment is that the hashrate seems to fluctuate quite a bit. It'll be up to 61 GH/s, then drop back down to 51 GH/s, then back up a bit, etc. Seems random, and not at all to do with temperature (if anything, the higher-temp one is running a bit faster on average). Any ideas on why this might be? It definitely seems slower than what I was getting with EasyMiner. It's a good 20 GH/s short of what I was getting consistently with that.
Not sure why the hashrate would be lower or fluctuate. It's not with Jalapenos. No error messages? |
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running 1.4.1 with an asic single and fpga single and hashing fine. Good Stuff. Thanks.
Let me know what additional info you want on my setup
As long as it works, that's all I need to know.  Just went to 30gh on the asic. bfg still runs full 60
Any error messages? |
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DrHaribo, my BFL Singles arrived today, but they are not working with the BitMinter client. It logs errors like this many times per second: BitFORCE (COM4) ERROR: Unexpected response to work results poll command: 8636095F59A26EE93EC42907D221D59B3FF3659FAC2CF16002C6F67E8A14207A,2BA85F2E51E5F4F81A00A429,1,0 Any ideas what could be wrong? They work fine on Easy Miner, but I prefer the BitMinter client. I am getting the same error. Any news on the update? Tried the beta also and no luck. This is in reference to a BFL SC... I have an fpga single which is running fine Could you give the beta another try? Completely untested change. |
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What happened, may we ask?
There was a connection issue between two of the servers. Probably a short intermittent problem like you can see on the internet sometimes. But the live stats did not recover by themselves after that. This will be much improved in an upcoming version of the backend software I'm working on. |
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Sorry livestats went down. Back up again now.
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