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1501  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: November 17, 2023, 08:50:41 PM
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I think still excited with Group B between Ukraine and Italy are teams will fighting one slot left after England have been early qualified to EURO. What do you think between Ukraine or Italy which one favorite will play in EURO and have chance Italy as winner last edition must be absent?

it is probably most exciting group from qualifications standpoint, if you are cheering for your own team
Ukraine and Italy both deserve a spot, but there is only one place

I think that Italy will get it, but it is a hard and tough fight, and Italy needs a win tonight, no matter what

Italy is obliged to win to hope to obtain a place in the next European football championship. They cannot afford to fail in this qualification after not having qualified for two consecutive editions of the World Cup, let's see how they fare this evening

Italy scored a goal in the 17th minute and the score is now 1-0. Italian team owns the initiative completely and they control the game. I think it is safe to say that Italy will win the match against North Macedonia.

Italy 3-0 at halftime against Macedonia and that is already over,i dont see a way that Macedonia at least gets a draw. This will probobly be a disaster for them. Italy with this win can secure the euros in the next match for sure and if they play like this there is no doubt.

They are playing against Ukraine next week in the last round and I don't think it will all be flowers for Italy.Ukraine is a strong team and they know that is their last chance to secure the Euro,since they are with equal points now and it means that if they get a draw in Ukraine they still qualify because of direct matches being a tie breaker if qualifying ends in the same points so yeah Italy is advantaged and they can choose how they dictate the play there in Ukraine next week.

Italy needs to be in the Euro as they give a certain glamour to these events as even when they are not in the best of their shape they can manage to even win the event.
1502  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can a mega winner say no to public presentation? on: November 17, 2023, 08:31:44 PM
I created this topic as a result of this news, a young Ghanaian man won 6,000,000 GHC ($501,664) with a bet of 40 GHC. This happened few days ago and it trended on social media. Some of the comments from netizens are that the young man should leave Ghana to avoid being robbed or poisoned.

I know some of us must have seen the formal presentation of a mega winner to the public by a gambling platform. Most times, these bookies invite media outlets to their offices to cover the ceremony, so that the news could be captured on newspapers, tv, internet etc. My questions are...  Can a bettor reject being unveiled to the public? Are gambling platforms paying an extra money for the publicity?

As long as people are playing online they are not forced to get to public,for example if someone wins 500.000 dollars at Stake their withdrawal gets checked and if found valid it gets processed.This is how it should be for most betting platforms who offer online betting to people.Usually the ceremonies like that are held in poor countries like Ghana in order for the platform who is paying that big withdrawal for a country like Ghana to get even more publicity and to get more and more customers.Nowadays though it is completely different,if you are good at online marketing you get a lot of customers without the need of such ceremonies and I am in full support of the bettor rejecting such public appearances.
1503  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: November 17, 2023, 08:14:39 PM
Leverkusen was good in bundesliga but it was bad on europa league. Xabi needs to put europa league as his major concern. Im not saying bundesliga should be discredited but considering that leverkusen was leaving from europa league. That can be a good motivation for leverkusen to win europa league then go to the UCL. Leverkusen must able to go to the final since the club is performing on fire in bundesliga. This club is in the same level as bayern right now.
Winning europa league will help leverkusen to get a fixed spot qualify for UCL. UCL has become the main target by anyclub caused by it will give lots of potential income for the club. Even allegri as juventus's coach saw it as a trophy.
Awaiting for xabi to show another surprise. he is only starting with the cheap squad

Well I don't really know if you know the position of Bayern Leverkusen in the Europa league but to call your attention Bayern Leverkusen is topping their group in the Europa league after winning all the four matches they've played in their group. Bayern Leverkusen is in good form both in bundesliga and Europa league so even if they don't win Europa league but make it among the top four then the will still be in the Europa league so the most important thing for them now is too continue in the impressive form if they can win one of the trophies.

Bayer Leverkussen the main objective I believe to be the Bundesliga yet this does not mean that if they have the chance they will negate to be winning the Europa League.One thing is sure and that is they are on fire on both events they keep winning game after game and I don't know if they will stop,they are eager to win more and more and are one of the most serious contender to Bayern Munchen,a dominating force in their domestic league.I know from my experience watching soccer since the year 1990 in the final of Argentina vs Germany that when a team is doing great in the domestic league,it will do so most likely also in their European competition.
1504  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How close have you ever been to winning a big amount/jackpot? on: November 17, 2023, 07:53:04 PM
I honestly do not know if we've had a discussion like this before on this board, but this is based on my personal experience while playing on L0tt0.com last night, I was just so close to hitting a x1000 while I was playing pick six game, which would have multiplied my initial bet amount by 1000 times.

But unfortunately, I ended up with a mere x250 because the numbers didn't align well.

Here is the shot below.



As you guys can see on the shot, I placed a bet on 490082, and the system played 480088, and according to the information in the shot below..



If my second number, which is 9, was also the same number the system played, it means that five of my numbers out of six, would have played and I would have made x1000, which Is the second to the highest jackpot being x2500.

It was a very close one for me, and I did spend more than 20 minutes staring at the outcome of this game, and wondering why just one single number had to spoil what would have been a jackpot win for men, and I did x250, instead of x1000  Cry.

Lets discuss guys, how close have you ever been to winning a big about of money, a jackpot, maybe in sports betting or lotto, or any other game that has to do with numbers, online or offline, how close have you ever been to winning a big amount, and what was it that spoilt the win for you.?

I have only once near gotten the max prize in a slot machine like Fish Eye slot from Reel Kingdom a UK partner of Pragmatic Play.In there I got x9833 multiplier out of the x10.000 that is the total amount of that game,unfortunately my bet was only 0.02 and I only got like near 200 dollars as a profit.

I have also gotten several times at Play n Go Medieval Arthurian legend slots from x1000 to x3000 but have stopped playing there because they don't feature the buy in bonus and games can get very boring there without giving you the bonus for thousand spins sometimes,so yeah I have been there near the top prize.

The slots have nothing to do with numbers you say but they are based on numbers as a RNG-random number generator decides the outcome of each spin.
1505  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: November 17, 2023, 07:41:18 PM
Albania is the first team from group E to be qualified for Euro just for the second time in their history after doing so the first time in 2016,this time though they are doing it in style,most likely they will top the group as they I doubt will get any other result except a win against Faroe Island on Monday.First time coach was De Biasi an Italian which played very much defensively,this time it is Sylvinho who brought that Brazilian style of play and Albania has scored some of the most beautiful goals of these qualifiers under this coach.Well done to them.
1506  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Math and Gambling on: November 17, 2023, 09:26:20 AM
Gambling is known to be a game of pure luck but also probability, that's if you are good at math, this is what a fellow employee said to me, he then told me to look Chris Ferguson up, to my surprise this man won millions in gambling using math, I read this man is really good at math,

He created his own gambling strategy for poker completely on math and game theory instead of trying to focus monitoring the players, this man won five world series bracelets 🤦 and over 8 millions dollars in gambling tournaments.

There is also another man called James Simons, who is named the greatest gambler of all, he made more money using math than Chris Ferguson, James net worth is over 20 billions, I was shocked, because I use to think it's impossible to gamble using any skills, this is a skill on a another level, I am mad that I am just knowing this not too long ago.

School is not important as 96% of what you learn won't be used in the real world to make money, but this 4% left is making a lot of people rich, math and gambling seems to go with each other, what do you guys think? Am I wrong or right?

I am not 100% sure but there was a professor of math who used to win the lottery once and people thought he is a genius,he couldn't win it a second time so most likely it was pure luck that coincided with his thinking and algorithms at that time.In Poker you can win if you are good at math and focusing on counting every card rather than try to find other people thinking by reading their faces and expression,you have to be good at it,have a huge amount of patience like this Chris Ferguson guy and you can win,I would not be that much surprised,unfortunately very few people own such skills.

As for school when I graduated and got to my first job I found nothing from school was to be used there,so it is 100% theory the school just to give you some education.
1507  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I've learned so far as a gambler on: November 17, 2023, 09:02:34 AM
No one actually visits the casino to have fun
How about people that will have $200 to have fun and using just like $0.1 on every game so that the time they are gambling can be prolonged?  Did you know that some people will use the whole $200 at ones and see if they win or not.

The best approach that I have thought of is to use not more than your gambling budget but in a way that all can be lost as long as you can afford to lose it. But after winning, it is good to just quite for the day and not have the fun again.

I also agree when you prolong your session you are also "adding" more chances of a big win as with the lowest amount of bet you will have much more spins than if you used a heavy bet that would make that 200 disappear in an instant and that is something usually only addicted persons do,normal gamblers will not lose money fast,this shows that you are in control when you play with the lowest bet and not the addiction.

When you own a casino like that old wise man said you sure will make money but let me tell you that the fun part is totally out of the way,you can never feel that feeling of hitting the max win,only real gamblers will feel that and as such I prefer to have a fun night with that 200 dollars by playing as long as possible.
1508  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: November 17, 2023, 08:43:05 AM
Games that have no goals from the first half to the end of the game is just boring to watch, and this Liechtenstein vs Portugal game is one of those games we expect to see goals coming in from different angles but no it didn't happen.
The first half of the game is quite disappointing to me, because I was expecting to see the visitors (Portugal) dropping like 3-4 goals before heading into half-time but is still goalless.
I hope with the stars that Portugal are having in this fixture it won't end in a draw or 0-2 win, at least Cr7 need to score more goals to increase his goal scoring record.
The first half was a frustrating affair between the two teams, with neither team attacking well and scoring in the first half.  Maybe Portugal would have played well from start to finish in the match, but that was not the case, rather they had a very bad first half. Portugal has good stars currently according to that if they perform well they could have won by more goals but not so good favor them. Although the match ended 0-2, the match started very disappointingly, but Portugal attacked well in the second half. Cristiano Ronaldo scored a goal in the 46th minute to put his team ahead of the opposition. And the second goal on 57 minutes made the game even better as Portugal didn't allow the opposition to attack as they eventually held on to the game. In the last minute they pulled off a win and stayed on the points table with 27 points. So far, in 9 matches, Portugal have not lost a single match and have had a great run in all matches.

Portugal I think is the only team to have won all of their games so far in these qualifiers and that is a good indication however I am afraid they were in a relatively easy group and as such they took full advantage of it.Winning just 0-2 against Liechtenstein is nothing to worry about as most likely is a sign of being self complacent and they have every right to be like that after getting full points in 9 games.

I don't think though from the games that I have seen that they will be able to contend well against the likes of England,Spain,Germany,France and Italy in this Euro 2024,considering a win for Italy tonight which would give them the qualification most likely.
1509  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What I learnt from a crackhead about gambling on: November 17, 2023, 08:18:17 AM
Between drugs and gambling, which one do you think is more addicting than the other? I have a good reason for asking this question, because there is something I saw not too long and I am doubting if anyone have seen the same thing, I am from a place where crack heads ( drugs addicts ) and also gambling addicts are all around, here is what I've seen.

I have seen crack heads more than responsible with there cash, than gambling addicts, this is what make me to ask you guys this question, drug junks are more responsible than gamblers, I have seen a gambling addict who spend 200 grand in under one and half hour on gambling, I've never seen a crack head done such before, not even on drugs.

I have seen a crack head who changed and when we had some chats he thank God in front of me, saying he is thankful that is addiction was on drugs and not gambling, he sounds so scary of getting addicted to gambling as he confirmed that gambling seems so much harder to quit.

He went on and say something about his friend who use 15 years on gambling and the friend isn't really sure how he will stop and the friend said that if he didn't stop it will kill him sooner or later, like he knew the danger lurking but he doesn't know how to stop, he isn't sure he will get better. The friend started telling him how the world will be better off without him, that's when they started locking him up, and the battle to change him when on for four years straight before he died from strange illness.

I was so scared with this story and It affected me for a while, I stopped gambling for a week because of what I heard from this man, his appearance is that of someone you won't want to listen to but what he went through is so eye opening that if other addicted gamblers hear from him it could change them, gambling addiction is really scary.


That is not true at all and it is a super distant mistake as some people say.I know drug addicts who have given their wife,mother,sister for sex just to buy drugs and while gamblers also the most addicted of all have given their wives in extreme cases I don't know any case where they have given the sister or mother to do just that,this as the best analogy to make it clear that there are no worse people on the planet than drug addicts and comparing gamblers to them I took it as a heavy personal offense as I am also a gambler although not addicted.

Crack heads are never ever more responsible than gamblers,they sell their house,threat people for money and also the above things which are the worse.
1510  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: November 17, 2023, 07:55:55 AM
I'll have a long laugh if Italy loses to North Macedonia today and doesn't make it to the big tournament again because of them... If that happens, then Macedonia can be called the Italian curse... I don't rule out that this could happen because the first game was a draw... But I really hope that Italy will win...

Italy will most likely win as the odd of 1.14 suggest just that in my opinion.North Macedonia is not a good team when playing away and I definitely rule out a draw for them in Italy,Italy was the last winner of the Euro against England so it would be a real shame if they don't make it again,this time chances are super high they will be playing in the Euro 2024 in Germany and most of the great teams will be there.

So the Euro will be a beautiful one as most of these teams like Spain,England,France,Germany and hopefully Italy will be contending to be winners as I rule out any other team like Portugal to repeat their 2016 success again.
1511  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you bet on when your league is in break? on: November 17, 2023, 07:22:33 AM
This is something I've always been wondering about. Gamblers tend to have a league, be it basketball football or any famed sport, that they tend to love most. For instance in the USA American football and NBA betting tend to be very popular, while in south and south east Asia countries cricket is also very popular among other sports. So people tend to have a league in a certain sport that they know the most about, have a favorite team in, know the players etc.

So what's your experience with this. When your league is in break, do you tend to try to follow other leagues that you're familiar with, or will you gamble on anything really? I'm interested to hear what other people have to say in this matter.

For me personally, I try to limit my gambling to teams where I know at least some players, because otherwise it's easy to get carried away. Really in my opinion, gambling on leagues and sports that you know little to nothing about, only increases the edge against you.

In such cases I always consult tipping and news sites which also offer a big analysis before claiming that this bet is going to be a winner,they even rate,some of them rate by 1 star low confidence,2 stars average confidence and 3 stars highest confidence.Since I don't know most of these leagues players I rely on this other people information before making a decision to bet or not to bet on a specific event.

Usually though I have my preferred leagues where I bet and not just only one league.
1512  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Winning big amount after watching streamer on: November 16, 2023, 12:45:59 PM
I know that great feeling which unfortunately it is quite a long time that I don't feel it anymore,last time I got an x9833 near max win in Fish Eye slot and since then I have not even won more than x1000 so big big congrats on your x3800 win.The Hacksaw provider is extremely volatile and they usually most of the time don't pay at all but when they do then they hit it hard,it is a distinct feature of this provider,I never play them though,the best I like from them is the Bovery Boys with guys trying to hack the bank  Grin.
1513  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: November 16, 2023, 08:50:05 AM
I think the reward part was never the part they wanted to get attention to, they never really wanted people to get these rewards, they would rather see people get the money for it instead, makes it easier, allows them to do it quicker and cheaper.

Most likely not because its pretty much a hassle to send it those physical stuff all across the world so most people probably opt-in to cash the RP into satoshi instead but I kinda wanna know if some people actually would exchange those physical prizes though. Out of all those freebitco.in players, there should be atleast 1-2 people that would do so just to try it

FanEagle hit it right exactly. I can't believe people on this site or anywhere still want to discuss or wonder about pricing of these things. Guys its called Marketing, just like the Lambo and the Rolex, it's to tell people they can win these stuff for free.

Nobody will change RP for iPhone, nobody will choose Rolex or Lambo. Unless they are really rich and don't need money. But it's nice to say someone won a Lambo/Rolex/iPhone Smiley

As far as I know though the Rolex has never come out as a prize which is quite surprising knowing how many users are playing that Wheel of Fortune with a decent number of spins daily.I know the odds of getting it are really little less than 0.001% but anyway after such a long time I think someone should have gotten this.Not only this but I am even thinking that most likely also the Iphone has not landed either,this is strange and it points me to think that it is indeed marketing and some marketing that needs to be updated,i.e someone should hit those prizes  Grin.
1514  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: November 16, 2023, 08:18:04 AM
Try to solve financial issues with spending or investing money imo isnt the right thing to do. It is like trying to fight fire with fire. The only solution to sufficient money I see is simple - finding new or extra work. Maybe it is ok to make a so called safe bet, but it will bring little money only. Making a huge bet is risky, and on a distance multiple safe bets eventually gonna turn into a loosing one. Imo gambling is not a solution to get more money.

I think that investing money is the perfect thing to do to solve financial issues,like we have learned from many financial books not from schools that investing in real estate or anything that is an asset to you and brings you residual income or passive income is the best thing that can happen to a person financially speaking.

Gambling surely isn't the best of investments but I am sure the people who have won multi million dollar jackpots will disagree with it,so in the end it all depends on the perspective of each one of us for our life.
1515  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: November 16, 2023, 07:43:43 AM
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Part of the gambling industry the slot games, These games do not require too much effort or strategy just to play this game as long as you make the designated pattern to hit the score or jackpoot you can earn a profit, most of the slot games are no brainer game, reason why people are still addicted on it becaus the number of multiplier it can gives to the person once they hit a jackpot, and no one knows how much it is reason why they keep make a risk but of course like the other games not all the time player wins the game. Some people manage to win but because of being greedy they lose again their wages, and somehow others doesnt really have a bit of luck. So if you don't want slots what kind of game do you prefer in gambling?

Slots usually don't have the best odds compared to other games such as blackjack for example.

An advanced gambler might get close to 50/50 odds when playing correctly. You can't really apply any strategy in slots to maximize your odds.

There are some sort of "strategies" that you can apply in slots as well,they are not real ones of course but when I used to play the Play n Go provider if I didn't get the bonus for 300 spins I used to increase the bet as I knew most likely in the other 300 would surely come.This was the case in the majority of the times but since the bonus was also empty the majority of the times it was not a winning "strategy" yet a really good one to get the bonus with higher bet and hope for the best.Overall though there is no real strategies you can apply to games that rely 100% on luck.
1516  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you guys believe in other people luck and try to copy them? on: November 16, 2023, 07:24:32 AM
Yeah, why not?

If someone is lucky and you see him win multiple bets and big amounts, why not just copy what they're betting? It's like a common thing on this industry especially in real physical casinos.

You may be intrigued why that person is so lucky to the point that you just want to win just as them and that's why you're asking their bets and strategies if there's any.

I don't know what odd it was that I got in a bet from tonight but I think it was somewhat on the upper side as I see that guy had gotten right all of the ice hockey,baseball or basketball games and only one game was remaining,a 1.31 odd in tennis,yet this time I was smart and did cash out the bet,it was just 11.000 IDR from a low base bet enough to cover all my bets placed yesterday and to add some 6-7000 IDR as profit.I know I am going slow with this but so far it is working for the better,it is like an ongoing lottery for me  Grin,I will share bet ID when I get home meanwhile I have quite some other bets ongoing.
1517  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever Thought of Giving Back to the Community? on: November 15, 2023, 09:38:54 PM
If I hit an x100.000 with a good base bet no matter that I have lost big it means that I have won big enough maybe not to buy 25 laptops for those who can't but surely can buy some cheap tablets to them,like Blackview tablets which cost very little compared to other brands but their performance leaves nothing to be desired with their competition.I of course would not say the source of this income,I would say it is work I do online as a free lancer as no one knows I gamble the hell out of it,the people know me for a good Christian who goes to church every Sunday  Grin.
1518  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: For sports bettors, are you attracted with bet builder feature? on: November 15, 2023, 08:35:41 PM
I just recently explored the bet builder feature of the sportsbook I'm currently using, and I find it interesting as you can have more bets combine in just one game which is impossible on parlay bets. So I'd like to hear your thoughts regarding this, is it also profitable or just a waste of money?

I rarely use it as to win it means you have to get most of the different bets put into a single ticket,like one team to win,over 2.5 goals,both teams to score yes,both halves over 1.5 and all sort of those bets all in one,we know it is very difficult to hit many of these bets yet when we hit one of them of course the odd is minimum over 3 or even more so this type of bet is for someone who has a lot of money and is obsessed that at a certain game there will be goals,a team will win and both teams will score together with some other bet to add to it,most normal people are not that attracted to this,even when I stay copying other people bets I rarely find such bets available.
1519  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you guys believe in other people luck and try to copy them? on: November 15, 2023, 08:10:33 PM
I woke up from such dreams long ago and now I am in the future because my past has taught me never to dine with an old lady who never showed me the road to her home,  even though she promised to take me to her palace.

Just being sarcastic anyway,  but hey mate never put your trust in gambling because doing so can ruin your life,  I have never expected anything outside fun from gambling,  I don't know but I believe gambling can never make you rich,  or give you a platform that can aid you into filling any dream.

What can ruin my life,100 IDR bets which are 0.01 dollars each and with 30 dollars I can place a huge number of such bets.For me this is entertaining myself and a way to stay away from the real gambling which are the slot machines that are the old lady you talk about,they promise you big things and most of the time are plain lies but people fall for beautiful lies easily.

I believe the platform to copy other people bets and place random bets with huge odds is just like playing the lottery but playing it daily and waking up with hopes,this is great for my mental health and I don't suffer from any of the above syndromes you say gambling will bring.
1520  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How discipline are you in managing your bankroll? on: November 15, 2023, 03:10:07 PM
Recently, I've had some issues with bankroll management. Although I've been gambling for years, sometimes I feel the urge to get more action because I'm not satisfied with my winnings. It's as if there's no tomorrow, and seizing the moment seems like the best option. However, whenever I become undisciplined, it usually doesn't end well. My realization is that no matter how good you are at choosing the right bets, without discipline in bankroll management, you'll still end up losing.

Could you please share some of your honest experiences here and how you became a disciplined gambler, particularly in managing your bankroll? What factors do you consider to be satisfied and to stick with the game plan all the time?

If you are winning and you are not happy it means that you are winning which is great in itself as I have been losing consistently from quite a long time now.Since this is happening quite a lot I manage the balance now by placing small bets in sport by copying other people bets and I don't touch slot machines or other games that can drown your money in a very short amount of time.I know managing the bankroll is super difficult if you feel the urge to continue playing but if you let yourself loose on it only problems will be on your way,so better to stop one moment and reflect cold headed.For me the strategy of entertaining myself by copying other people bets works great.
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