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2301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 12, 2023, 07:54:21 AM
Nice vs Lille game yesterday ended with a 1-1 draw which in theory favors somewhat Lille in the long run as whenever a team gets points away from home against relatively strong teams which Nice these last years is considered one it may be beneficial to them.The fact that they got in the last minute of the game makes this point even more precious than if they got it normally in the game before last minutes drama.

Nice showed once again that despite scoring early they are not capable of keeping results,the same happened last year with them and I don't think they will have a much better performance this year.
2302  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What should I do if the cloudbet casino withdrawal is delayed for more than 56 h on: August 12, 2023, 07:33:00 AM
This is a legendary and lucky story. After losing for several weeks at cloudbet casino, I won $24,500 after playing video games with $200 for 6 hours in a row on the day of August 9th. I applied for a withdrawal of $10,000. In 24 hours  Did not arrive, the team mail told me that
the withdrawal was delayed and the game service provider paid the bonus after verifying that the winning was normal. On August 10, I continued to play the video game dino.P.D once won the total winning bonus to 35800 US dollars, now  It's the fiftieth hour of the withdrawal delay
all the gamblers guess if I will be able to withdraw my winnings from cloudbet smoothly?
If I successfully withdraw my winning bonus from the cloudbet casino in the next time, I will randomly select 5 viewers from thecommenters below, and give each person a luckybonus of 100 usdt

That is a "trick" from the casino as most casinos use this in order to just delay the funds so you can play again and risk to lose it all,we have all heard stories of this type.So based on this I would suggest to you to stop gambling at all until everything is resolved or if you continue chances are high you will lose all your won money and that would be a very sad moment and I insist in my advice that you stop playing until you have received the full amount that you requested to withdraw.

Cloudbet has resolved the accusations here so it should resolve this one too,just keep in mind my advice stop playing before you have received the full amount requested,then do whatever you like  Grin.
2303  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 12, 2023, 07:15:40 AM
Manchester City opened their season with a resounding win and moved to the top of the points table. Although Erling Haaland scored two goals in the first half, his goals were excellent and he scored well at the start of his season. Manchester City have once again roared their start to the season, much to the delight of City fans. Despite leading by two goals in the first half, they scored another goal in the second half and held on to win in the last minute. Manchester City the way they started the season maybe they can take a good position this season their players performance is great.

The table is already reading three points already, and from watching the game it was looking as if Burnley will score but manchester city was keeping a very tight defense system which was difficult to penetrate, they had more chances than they expected, and Haaland his always expected to do what he knows how to do best which is to score, the only way to hold the city to some extent is to cage Haaland if not more goals will be scored, they started well and another thing is that burley is no match for the city, that why victory was sure for them, even Burnley was not ready to score and manchester city will always take advantage of every situation and a good game from the both of them I actually did enjoy the game.

This game is just the continuation of where Manchester City left off the other season where they won everything there,sure they had a lost game against Arsenal with penalties but they dominated that game too and it was pure luck of Arsenal managing to bring the game to penalties and to have that win.

Burnley has played a lot of matches against Championship teams and as such we could not expect them to be a real match for the reigning Champions of the Premier League,Burnley needs a bit more time to adapt to the Premier League action.
2304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: August 12, 2023, 06:57:17 AM
I really want to see Leclerc at a good team except Ferrari very much. I trust him for his showing us what he can do under pressure and how he can challenge with Verstappen while he has also a good car. If Red Bull bring a driver like Leclerc in Perez's place I'm wondering how Verstappen would react to this as well. Many people must still have the incidents happened in Webber/Vettel time in mind.

Besides RBR all the other teams are at the same level, all the cars are fast or slow depending on the track they are running.

I can't see really who is the second-best option after RBR.

I think right now it is McLaren and in the last race they made an error in the setup as they wanted to win the race if there would be enough intense rain,they aimed for that and that is why it looked like they were struggling,they designed the car setup to be a winning one if heavy rain would have been possible in Belgium.

You will see in this track in Netherlands if it does not rain and they make a normal setup of the car,they will definitely be after Redbull and most likely they will be beating all the other teams.This does not mean though that the things will continue this way,this may change but so far only McLaren has worked much better than the other teams in this direction.
2305  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: August 12, 2023, 06:44:37 AM
OKAY ..Can someone create a spreadsheet for all these side bets I wouldn't like anyone to use my trust page as notepad.

Hey. As far as I can follow I tried to create a spreadsheet with all side bets. I'm leaving it here for you to follow. Please check it out to see if there is something I did wrong.

SpreadSheet


Nice job mate.I think my side bet is OK as it should be.

On another note,the season started  yesterday night and boy oh boy 15 people,a lot of us predicted the exact score which is massive for a certain game that 15 people to predict the exact score.Luckily I am one of them too but it is way to early to start thinking about how good or bad one is,in here in just a couple of weeks people can turn things around,just some exact scores in a round where everybody does not OK and you jump ahead of the competition.Let's see today as there are some nice games.
2306  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 11, 2023, 01:34:15 PM
Personally, I won't go for this game because I don't have much information about Servette or Rangers. I just know Servette was 5th place in the Swiss league in the last season while Rangers got 10th place in the Scottish league which can show us the difference however the Scottish league is not the same as the Swiss at all but I think this game is worth to risk and bet on Servette for the better rate because the rate for Servette is 3.35 wilke it's 2.13 for Rangers.



I knew you made a typo, but just in case, I checked - the Rangers took not 10th but second place in the Scottish League. In general, there are only two big teams and it is impossible for them to take a place lower than the second. I don't even know if this has happened in the last 20-30 years. The periods of dominance of Celtic and Rangers change but they are always at the top.
As for the bet, it's hard to choose because the Rangers will be happy even with draw. Therefore, betting on a simple victory is too risky.

Well I think the difference is huge if we consider the name of each team where Glasgow Rangers is one of the two legendary teams in Scotland having won many titles where Servette at least these 20 last years have not been consistent at all so the quality clearly indicate that Glasgow Rangers should qualify for the group stages most likely.The only problem they have is that they by themselves complicated the game when they were leading 2-0 they concede a penalty which was turned into goal by Servette.I have seen the game though and the quality difference was obvious,I don't think such quality difference can be overturn just by playing in your home stadium but let's see.
2307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wagering - share your opinion on: August 11, 2023, 01:07:40 PM
I would prefer to bet on 1.5x-2x when I want to boost my wager statistic, because I think it is better than using 1.0102x
Although the final result will always depend on our luck but based on my experiences is that using 1.5x-2x gave me a better result than 1.0102x
I believe that if the casino is legit and the games are provably fair, then the math can't be wrong. The lower the multiplier, the less chance of a losing bet, ultimately leading to the highest wagering amount in the long run. However, since these are still games of chance, it is understandable that everyone's experience will be different.
As a noob and want to increase my wager as per the requirements on a bonus round as I can remember it, I always use the minimum bet always so I could increase it. It was really too risky considering your bet could be gone if you lose a bit and I often use it on dice, though you have few risk of hitting lower than that multiplier ut when you hit it, it's like you're world has turned upside down. It has a devastating effect tbh.
Trying out to catch up that wagering requirement and making use of the lowest base bet then it would really be that less risky comparing on setting out on higher risk or odds on which it is really that possible but something that wont really be able for you to reach the finish line or would be able to hit the threshold and this is why some would really be deciding on going with the slow pace and sticking with base bets which it would really be that a common approach. No matter which angle we are really that looking then it would really be just that normal that wagering requirements would really be that something in default whether on deposit or bonuses then it would really be normal that they would be setting out those limits or wagering.

If it was really that easy for us to hit up those wagering requirement then it would really be just that too easy to get out with the platform and we know that its not something that would be doing good with the business.
It is really just that they would normally be doing things that would really be that on their advantage.
I wonder if this scheme was ikely profit more for the casinos especially when there's some sort of competition going around? I mean they are asking for that wagering requirement but on the other way around they are making money if it's gonna hit especially for those lowest base, well, they always win though they're the house. I guess not for us but for those whales out there, it's easy for them.

For me there exist not any great casino promotions in wagering like they used to do before.I remember a couple of years ago that even people playing with minimal bet were allowed to take part on such competitions (now I don't know one that allows you to do so) and the tournament was run for 3-7 days and the person with the highest number of bets,irrelevant from the bet amount would be the winner,so people including me have won in such competitions as I always used Play n Go medieval themes slots like Swords and Holy Grail which keeps you playing longer even with low amounts and as such I have been able to be third one time in such wagering competition.

This type of competition is also very beneficial for the casino as a lot of people take place there and only 5-10 people are rewarded with a prize,all others get nothing.
2308  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You must do this if you want to QUIT or NOT on: August 11, 2023, 12:22:22 PM
I think in gambling there is nothing to worry about other than losing money, because that is their main problem and ours as gamblers. Well for that I agree, because there is only one thing we can do which is a strong self-control factor. If we cannot exercise this self-control then it is certain that defeat will continue to accompany us unless luck is on our side. I have always said this before to anyone including my colleagues, in my opinion quitting gambling is very difficult and almost impossible. When someone already has the intention to stop then they will always face temptations that are difficult for them to pass, and also the feeling of winning always appears in their minds, I have felt this and until now I still can't if I have to stop completely, but to increase the rest time I can do it. The point is that it is actually possible if someone wants to stop completely but it takes a long time, the first thing to do in my opinion is to stay away from the gambling environment, increase activities in our daily lives by, for example, adding part-time jobs and not letting our minds remember anything about gambling, everything needs a process but believe me you can do it.
The biggest problem gamblers have to face is gambling addiction which can come at any time and losing money is normal. But with self-control, I think we can anticipate losing a lot of money because we can stop gambling before the money runs out or even before it runs out. With self-control, a person can stop gambling whenever he wants and no significant problem exists. They also must resist the temptation that keeps coming to them when they want to stop gambling because they really intend to stop it. And if they have other activities, it really helps them to stop gambling so they will remember to do other things and not just play gambling. So to stop quitting, we need self-control and a strong desire to avoid losing money.

It's actually very simple if one has a strong intention to quit, as I said before there is only one thing that can help us and that is self-control. There is no enemy in gambling except ourselves, our normal mind clearly does not want if we lose money but our lust continues to tempt with the lure of big wins there, so all the decisions are actually in ourselves. Previously I also said that a person's personality also has a big influence here, for example that person is easily provoked and easily emotional then they will not think twice to spend everything for their own satisfaction. So actually whatever advice or input from other people towards them is not entirely influential, especially for those who have an easily provoked personality.
But it will come back again, if indeed their intention is strong it could be because there is no one who prevents them in this case except their own lust.

      -    Agreed, if there is no such intention with a spring inside him to quit, this gambler will not be able to get rid of it. Just trying but no one really wants to change. That's why our number one enemy is ourselves. And when we overcome defeating ourselves, for sure it will be easy to give up gambling.

Although, there are others who still gamble but they know how to control themselves and limit gambling, in short, these are the responsible gamblers who gamble but are not addicted.

One effective way I have found out to work when you are in full addiction is to use 90% of the money you intend to deposit for gambling for other ventures,this way only 10% will remain for gambling and with the passing of time it can go near 0 or even 0.

Of course the person would want to do that and he should invest the money in other places rather than depositing on casinos and as such gradually with the passing of time one can be 100% addiction free from gambling.I have been doing this from a couple of weeks now although I am not addicted and I am loving the results,they are my crypto stash is increasing and my lose in gambling is decreasing.
2309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: August 11, 2023, 10:12:37 AM
Gambling should always be treated as fun first, money making second activity in my opinion. There id no better way to avoid addiction without this mindset.
If you are having the mindset to just have fun from gambling, I think that’s the easiest way to avoid gambling addiction. But thats what people are always finding difficult to do, most people have the mindset of making money from gambling that’s why they easily get addicted to gambling, they are always chasing their loss, they believe if they keep on gambling they will win back the money they have lost, which is wrong, if you continue gambling you might keep on losing without ever Winning back the money lost. if we can have the mindset of having fun alone in gambling, I think it will have been better and less people will be addicted to gambling.
They should change their mindset that they want to make money from gambling because many people have tried it but they failed before even getting the winning money. And when they lose, they try to recover but unfortunately, the defeat only gets bigger and bigger, and they can't get the victory yet. And gambling should indeed be considered a place to have fun so our goal is to get entertainment so that if we win, it is just a bonus for us.

The problem is that most gamblers do not enter initially the casino with the thinking that they will have fun.They enter nowadays with a clear intention of wanting to hit the biggest win of slot machines or jackpot based games in order to try and have a go to distant themselves from the not so beautiful reality of today where even being employed with an average wage does not guarantee you will make it to end of the month without sacrifices,so they see an opportunity in gambling which of course is plain wrong,yet they see this opportunity and want to try and get out for a short time from the reality that is all over us.
2310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: August 11, 2023, 09:50:03 AM
Neymar's career is already not much different than done. Because he is just having most of his time as injured. While being in this situation how much can he be beneficial for any European team now? The scenario has always been the same in the recent years especially. He starts strongly to the season but after a point he gets injured early and finishes the season like that.

I understand why PSG don't want to keep him anymore as a result. Neymar should just focus on making more money from now on. Besides there is a possibility like UEFA can start to accept Saudi teams to the Champions League as of next season. He should go to Saudi Arabia for not only that reason but also more money.

I think he is still young compared to Messi,Ronaldo and Benzema who made their final career choices exactly for more money.Neymar can give a lot to PSG as nowadays PSG has not anymore that load of super star attackers and they in my opinion would be losing a great striker,no matter that he is injured most of the time last year PSG was to a point even on level points with Lens team so their domination in the Ligue 1 in France is starting to fade away,let some key players like Mbappe and Neymar go away and we have again one normal PSG who most likely will not be able to win the league without these players.
2311  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots fever on: August 11, 2023, 09:21:01 AM
That is also true.The streamers never talk bad about the casino or if they have lost a huge amount of money,first thing they will show in their videos is to hit click and subscribe to their channel,second they will show you a promo code where if you deposit money through this code you will get 50-100% more money thanks to the link provided.This is enough to retain smart people from joining the specific casino and by playing games there,the streamer intentionally streams only the winnings of them and those max win but rarely we have seen people from these streamers that they show us a big losing session,this is some food for our thoughts.
2312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots fever on: August 11, 2023, 08:36:44 AM
^

To be honest, I do not understand those people who watch streamers. In my opinion, this time can be spent more useful.

As it seems to me, first of all, people going to play gambling should fully understand what they have a chance for a big win and already from this proceed in their desires. Most gamblers, especially beginners, do not realize that the casino has an advantage over the player. They seek to beat the casino, which as we know to do quite difficult and the likelihood of this is highly dependent on luck.

That is what this streamers do,they instill a false sense of security and confidence in the new gamblers and these new gamblers immediately want to try out the exact slot that these streamers are showing in their videos.As I said before these new gamblers don't know that the part uploaded in the video service is the only part where they win but I am sure they have played much longer to get that max win shown in the video.Also I agree with you these newcomers rush to deposit and play and do not know at all what the RTP or house edge are which are in place exactly to make the casino profitable in the long run.
2313  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: August 11, 2023, 08:12:37 AM
Slovan Bratislava vs Maccabi Haifa Yesterday match between these two teams Maccabi Haifa scored 2 goals and won the match. The game between the players of both teams was very peaceful. Slovan Bratislava team scored 1 goal in this match. After that no more goals.  Slovan Bratislava couldn't do it. In the match Maccabi Haifa team player F. Pierrot scored the first goal in 5 minutes. and D. Saba scored the 2nd goal in 15 minutes. I bet in support of Maccabi Haifa team in this match. I won this match bet for Maccabi Haifa team to play well.

They were the favorites and they had good odds.They played in group stages last season if I remember correctly and it looks like they are going to play again in the group stages,last season they created a big upset by winning against Juventus,something unbelievable because of the huge difference in quality in the leagues these teams play.Good for them they will be playing again in the group stages.

For Bratislava I think it is already a huge achievement as they are going to play in Europa Conference League group stages so they will also continue their journey in the European competitions.
2314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: August 11, 2023, 07:39:14 AM
Gambling addiction is simply irresponsible gambling. And it begins not when you win some money but when you as a gambler chooses not to set your affairs in order. For example, gambling without being on a budget, gambling without following a schedule or a timeframe, gambling to cope with your life's problem, taking up gambling as a form of employment. There are people on both sides of the coin who have won money over and over again and didn't get addicted to gambling and there are those who are yet to win a lot of money and are struggling with gambling addiction.

When the gambler do the deposit by managing the funds,then he won't get addicted to the gambling.Most of the people get addicted by trying to recover some loss in the gambling.If the gamblers manage the funds it is more then enough.The gambling should follow with the time gap is more essential one.My friend is gambler over a decade,but he is not an addict to the gambling.Because he had fix the gambling as the game and not expect any win from the gambling,but he get happy with all his winning and keep the winnings for future bet.

Yes that simple mate but for some people they are having a hard time about this because they don't know how to handle their finances well and instead of driving their emotions, they end up being slave to their own emotion as they don't know what to do when the pressure is there and when situation is getting more difficult. It's just a battle of win or lose, nothing more, that is why it is preferred to gamble what you can afford and have a specific boundary so that you will not overstep your limits.

I was addicted once in 2019-2020 and let's say that even in 2022-2023 I have overdone it a couple of times and I consider myself one gambler with experience having played for so many years yet I have been victim to this.I only recently swore to myself that any excess money I want to gamble it is better if I use it for a better purpose,so I have put my objective in place,that money will never again be used for gambling except a very small amount while the majority will go into buying the cryptocurrencies I believe will explode,no matter how small I invest weekly.So far this has been the best decision and I don't feel the urge to gamble as well now,so 2 wins in one hit,I suggest to anyone this,before they go and deposit to gamble,deposit but just 10-20% of the amount you wanted to deposit and use the rest for better things like the ones described here.
2315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany DFB Cup 2023/2024 - Discussion and Prediction on: August 11, 2023, 07:13:18 AM
This weekend is the start of the 1st round. Except for Leipzig and Bayern Munich. They do not play this weekend but at the end of September because they play against each other in the Supercup at Saturday evening.
The DFB Cup is a joy for the clubs from the lower leagues. Most of the time they lose, but sometimes there are surprises. In any case, it is an experience for the players and fans that they often never get again in life.


We have seen not that rarely that these low leagues teams in here cause huge surprises,of course not so often either but from time to time they do.Maybe because the motivation of the players from these low leagues when they face teams from the Bundesliga should be sky high as they want to showcase their skills in front of different managers and as such having a chance of improving their career.While this is great for the players of the low leagues it is very bad for us bettors who sometimes lose bets with 1.10 or lower odds as we are trying to get some sure money by betting on the teams from Bundesliga who happens to make surprise results for us.
2316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: August 11, 2023, 06:58:02 AM
Of course Burnley are going to lose this game... I don't remember Man City losing to EPL newcomers... Especially since it's the first kick-off game of this season... And another factor for City's good game is that they lost in the Super Cup to Arsenal recently... Burnley will lose without a chance...
I'm so curious to see City dominance in EPL. English Premier League ready to kickoff, it's just about hours, not longer days. Pep Guardiola is fiercely after losing to Mikel Arteta in the Community Shield, that sends a message to Burnley. Manchester City won't come to play around, rather they come to grab every single points and dominate the game full time. To place a wager on the game fixture, ofcourse the cityzens are going home with three points, no arguments about it. So I place my bets in favour of Manchester City, there's absolutely nothing to expects from the Clarets.

In theory it should be like that and most likely every body has bet on Manchester City in tonight game.I also don't expect any real fight from Burnley after they played one year against lower quality teams in the Championship they cannot just come in the Premier League and make a surprise result tonight,I know that the Premier League is always characterized by surprise results but it would be a huge surprise if any other result except Manchester winning happens in this game.

Losing to Arsenal does not mean anything as they lost in penalties which are a lottery but of course they want to come back with a convincing victory tonight.
2317  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots fever on: August 11, 2023, 06:43:47 AM
^

Every gambler has its own expectations from the game session and if you come to the casino with an obsessive desire to win a large amount of money, then losing all the money you will leave the casino in a nasty mood. Whether you need it or not is up to you, but I would advise you to never expect to win big and enjoy the gaming process. If you are still lucky enough to win a big win, it will be an unexpected gift of fate.

The way you have put it is that people do not start their gaming session to win a big amount.Unfortunately nowadays in our time that is the biggest motivator for people to come to the casino in the first place,they want to hit it big as they most probably have seen those streamers winning big amounts and they want to emulate a win.The thing that the gamblers don't know though is that those streamers keep recording all day long their gaming sessions which is sponsored most likely from the casino they promote and only cut and put to streaming services the winning part,and as such is not real.People should understand this before going to the casino with high expectations of winning it big.
2318  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: August 11, 2023, 06:22:09 AM
43 people paid so far. Three others have said they will pay this week. First game kicks off tonight so please make sure your scores are in even if you're just thinking of playing as your scores will carry over once you join the pool.

We are still over 40 this time again and I think it is a relatively good number in average for all the seasons that this pool has been going on,of course we are not in over 60 this year but still having more than 45 people playing is a good number and will make this pool at least as fun as last season.

I have put my prediction in for tonight,I don't expect any surprise and most likely if I lock the picks (something I never do) I would see that most probably 100% of pool participants have gone for Manchester City,Burnley is way to weak for a team who have won everything last season.
2319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: August 10, 2023, 01:54:16 PM
It's great to see Hamilton still pumped up to compete and chase his eighth title. Even though Max and RBR are dominating right now, it seems that Hamilton is still confident and still believes that there is a chance for him to get his eighth world title.
But from the news I heard that Ferrari is currently approaching him to be able to bring him to the Ferrari team and become Charles's teammate. Even Ferrari are ready to give £ 40m for Hamilton to join their team. But I think Hamilton seems to have rejected this offer because he still believes in what Mercedes is doing, maybe until he can get his eighth world title he will stay at Mercedes, or not(?)

@retreat I feel that Hamilton should move on from Mercedes because I sincerely doubt that he can win the record 8th title while racing with Mercedes and with Ferrari he’ll have a better chance. Also I’m surprised that he’s yet keen to race for few more year’s because he’s not performing that well and he could yet retire before constantly losing out to other driver’s and spoiling his reputation of being a serial winner.

Maybe Hamilton has his own thoughts and believes that Toto Wolff will be able to make Mercedes a competitive team and be able to fight against the domination of RBR. Moreover, Hamilton and Mercedes are very close and Hamilton is quite comfortable in the team. Even when Toto Wolff didn't bring major upgrades to Mercedes, Hamilton still remained loyal and still believed that he would be able to get his eighth world champion title with Mercedes, this proves how Hamilton is very confident in his team.

Confidence alone without much performance upgrade won't bring him anywhere though.So I think he should start thinking seriously of finding a team well capable of delivering in the next 2-3 years or otherwise he may as well forget that 8th title which if he happen to not win it,it will make F1 even more intriguing having two drivers with 7 title each as the best.

Can Verstappen make a good advantage of Redbull hegemony and win every Championship now that he is still very young of age so he can may be the first driver with 8 titles,surely his talent is well enough to bring him these titles,let's see how it unfolds.
2320  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: August 10, 2023, 12:48:28 PM
I concede, you got me, you're absolutely correct! I said that Ukraine did it, but Ukraine is a country and as such technically unable to perform terrorism, which only humans are capable of doing.

You seem to be enormously agitated by this pipeline that was made useless by your glorious leader long before it was damaged. What happened to the whole "let Europe freeze" strategy?

Anyways, even if "Ukraine" had done it, how the fuck would it be terrorism if they're at war with Putinstan... are we still pretending that it's just a "special operation" and it's super unfair for the special operators to suffer any consequences?

That is funny.The terrorists are yelling,look out,terrorist attacks against our country.As Zelensky said,the war will come to Russia,especially to those parts supporting the unprovoked illegal war at the maximum and it has started yesterday with a boom in that optical factory,of course the Russians said it was the boiler room taking fire but Ukraine presidential advisor said from the images and videos shown it does not look like it was the pyrotechnics who got fire claiming may be some other reason.It is good for the Russians to feel the same pain Ukrainians have so maybe they react and call to the reason to act upon and stop Putler.
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