i get discounts for using more electricity
where/how? texas by using a different plan, with a guarantee to use x amount of kilowatts i.e. plan A charges you $20 a month (flat fee) and 6c per kWh plan B charges you $50 a month (flat fee) and 5c per kWh, provided you use a minimum of 3000 kWh. if you don't, you get billed for 3000. if you use 3000, it's a wash. if you use more than 3000, then it's a discount oh texas, only you would charge more for conserving energy. well, natural gas is so cheap that some wind farms got shut |
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i get discounts for using more electricity
where/how? texas by using a different plan, with a guarantee to use x amount of kilowatts i.e. plan A charges you $20 a month (flat fee) and 6c per kWh plan B charges you $50 a month (flat fee) and 5c per kWh, provided you use a minimum of 3000 kWh. if you don't, you get billed for 3000. if you use 3000, it's a wash. if you use more than 3000, then it's a discount ed: ok, i just checked. plan A is $20 per month, the next one is $40 per month. there's also one where there's a 'minimum bill' of $500, where you can get electricity for 4.16c/kWh, that may be business only though |
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Just for the record, it did this again:
2013-06-19 19:14:17.235456 Shares: 117 (2 orphan, 3 dead) Stale rate: ~4.3% (1-10%) Efficiency: ~121.5% (114-125%) Current payout: 0.3549 BTC
2013-06-19 19:14:19.021332 Skipping from block a3c01ac1b7431fe4f3b141091650172a0ca3f147ad5472ebe8 to block 44635c8d256559a4bbd27e36c84c0b1349102cfc99fd5645c7!
2013-06-19 19:14:19.421899 Punishing share for 'Block-stale detected! a3c01ac1b7431fe4f3b141091650172a0ca3f147ad5472ebe8 < 44635c8d256559a4bbd27e36c84c0b1349102cfc99fd5645c7'! Jumping from 0ed16b1a to 68f2aca3!
2013-06-19 19:14:21.264227 GOT SHARE! Drizztztzzztztzzzzztzz b9803115 prev 0ed16b1a age 2.22s DEAD ON ARRIVAL
2013-06-19 19:14:27.240538 Shares: 118 (2 orphan, 3 dead) Stale rate: ~4.2% (1-10%) Efficiency: ~121.6% (114-125%) Current payout: 0.3576 BTC
2013-06-19 19:14:37.245425 Shares: 118 (2 orphan, 3 dead) Stale rate: ~4.2% (1-10%) Efficiency: ~121.3% (114-125%) Current payout: 0.3576 BTC
though that time it said DOA, but gave me credit for it.
so I guess maybe it's messed up sometimes when that's going on. maybe in a few of those other cases the same thing happened
though I wonder what '68f2aca3' was. scratch.
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no, 2 orphans out of 7 isn't normal
Please zvs, study probabilities instead of reacting with your gut feelings. Statistically it's normal... If it were 20 out of 70 then it would probably not be normal. @Krellan, with your hashrate you'll have to wait for a whole week to know if your P2Pool configuration is OK. With 2 out of 7 you are not on the good side but you only have to remove 1 orphan from your current result to already be on par with the rest of the network. As a new user of p2pool, he asked if it was normal to get 2 orphans out of 7 shares. The answer is that it isn't normal, regardless of sample size |
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I started seeing this several times the last few days, same ip address each time.
2013-06-17 07:34:41.231070 invalid hash for 222.77.182.12 'remember_tx' 248861 872ef55d d295582b
I also received that last night. Same IP address. Big dump of hex digits, filling several pages in my scrollback. Haven't banned yet, but thinking about it. Perhaps an unrelated question: I'm new to P2Pool, having just set it up successfully two nights ago, when my Erupter arrived. I'm seeing a high percentage of orphaned shares: after just over 24 hours, I now have 7 shares, but 2 of them are orphaned. Is this normal? I also noticed that I have only 1 incoming connection, my other 6 connections are outgoing. My network connection is fine, no slowdown, ports are open. Shouldn't I be getting more connections, especially incoming? The port is open, the router is happy, my bitcoind has been steady at the configured maximum of 40 for some time now. Is P2Pool less aggressive at promoting connections than bitcoind, or are there simply fewer users of the network? I'm thinking that if I could get better connectivity to more nodes, I'd have fewer orphaned shares. Other than that, it seems to be working very well. I love the idea of P2Pool, having each node self-sufficient when it comes to making mining decisions, while still building on shares earned by other nodes so it remains fair for all. Josh no, 2 orphans out of 7 isn't normal 1 incoming connection after two nights is a bit low. i've been running a node off and on (on for the last 6 months or so) and only have 15 incoming connections after 30 hours, so it isn't *that* abnormal. i probably appear in everyone's addr file, your ip wouldn't in most. also, a lot of people keep their clients going for days at a time, so these nodes will rarely open new outgoing connections there are few incoming connections is because the client defaults to only 6 outgoing. bitcoind has a lot more users that increase their connection count, there are probably 20+ that have 500+ connections and some that may have more than 1000 if they've modified it to use epoll use --p2pool-node feature to add more outgoing connections outside of the default 6. it's better that way, anyway. you can pick the fastest ones and if they're public, look at their graphs and see if they actually send out any data. i have a relay in jacksonville, FL at 199.48.164.36 and primary is in nuremberg at 5.9.24.81, another person I know & help set his up is in the canadian OVH center @ 198.100.149.53. none are capped on incoming connections |
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I have tons of outgoing connections, I don't get many orphans. That's the point of all the connections.
Right now I have 1 in 47, and that one occurred at the very end of that 1,000,000 blocksize test... prior to that, I had the 3 orphaned out of 256...
6 outgoing connections only certainly isnt optimal, especially if you aren't listening for incoming connections... but, then, I only have 11 so far after node being online for over 12hrs. One of them connects within seconds (*cough* p2pool-node). Relying on 6 random outgoing connections to not get orphans? Some crap shoot
oh, here's a good example of why you should at least do like 2500 block size:
New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.000000 Share difficulty: 1218.324058 Total block value: 25.915000 BTC including 3 transactions
zvs, you only work by feeling, not stats. Feelings aren't good advisors... 1/ I've studied "6 random connections" for weeks and got 105+ efficiency constantly and most of the time 110+. It works, there's nothing to discuss if you didn't test it and then got bad efficiency repeatedly for days. Nothing is set in stones and things may change in the future, but right now there's no reason to advise to use large amount of connections unless you have hard data showing meaningful efficiency differences. There's one obvious reason to advise against it : it uses bandwidth that is limited: you use a dedicated server where it could be OK (additional CPU usage might make it bad) but many like me use an ADSL connection where it would simply kill efficiency (tested). 2/ your example of 25.915BTC with 3 transactions is just that, an example. Unless things changed dramatically these past days, there's no way you will get this amount of fees constantly with only 2500 block size. And even if it was the case, you'll have to compare both efficiency and fees to what you get with blockmaxsize=1_000_000 and other values to decide if it's advisable to use such a low block size. First off... no kidding, there usually isn't some 1 BTC fee transaction that's 250 bytes in size. Sometimes there is. Are you arguing that I drop that down to 1500? 1,000,000 obviously is detrimental to *my* income, so why would I use it? You need to do some more studying if you think 6 random connections will get "105+ efficiency constantly and most of the time 110+". I could possibly see a modified source allowing 0 outgoing connections and then 6 chosen connections added via --p2pool-node getting a low # of orphans i would like to see this mythical node of yours, it isnt listed on http://p2pool.hostv.pl/ for sure. |
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500 gold certified sounds fine to me
or a 550 silver or 600 bronze
if you dont have many other peripherals, (no fancy sound card or anything, eh?)
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one gpu or multiple?
doesnt trixx show the temperature of the hottest gpu?
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did you buy it used? it probably has a crap thermal paste job... or thermal paste from like 3 yrs ago
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I had two patrol cars pull up to my house in either January or February.. I don't think it had anything to do with my electricity bill, though (which has ranged from around 3800kwh-4500kwh). Probably just some jackass neighbor reporting me for 'suspicious activity' (you know, having a window open and an industrial fan blasting into the house when it's 30o outside).
The reason for them being on my property was that they detected a 'chemical smell' pervading the roadside near my house
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it can use 400-450 watts if you overclock it
for bitcoin mining, you can get close to 300mhash on a 7790 for about 70 watts
unsure what the current prices are, but newegg used to have this sapphire 7790 on rebate for $110 over and over. also a powercolor for $115. after you sold the games, it'd be around $85 and $90 respectively (they were worth more back then, like a month ago).
now, obv this requires some of your time and effort (10 minutes to do all the crap for the rebate and maybe 10 minutes to list the gaming codes on ebay and another 5 minutes of BSing with the person that buys em?)... but throwing that aside, you could just not even open the box for that card and sell it as 'brand new' on ebay and make about a 20% profit after fees (assuming you have a shop or w/e).
or you could mine with it for a month or two then sell it. not sure which way is better. i chose the mining route, but my elec is 6.8c
(another ed: hmm. i wonder if there will be lots of 'clearance' deals on radeons here soon)
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i like the furniture idea
or turning them into a giant robot
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and 33% decrease in difficulty needs time, to do a re target, in that time those 50tera will be replaced by asic, easily
That's what I'm thinking. Even if the difficulty DID drop, it would rise back up again pretty quick. Many people are just now (or soon) hitting the point where it's no longer profitable. So if difficulty drops down, those will hop right back on the train and push it back up again. yeah, it'll flatten out for the first day or so as people with gpus switch them off. then it'll jump back up again, as all these blade thingamajigs and whatever else comes online that people are throwing their money at this obv doesnt include the avalon asic round 2 ppl, that got it for, what, $1000? i overslept that day, damnit |
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I think most people that are looking at portable ACs are unable to put one in the window for various reasons.  yeah, housing authority here won't allow the swamp coolers. the portable exhausting out the window is quite a bit more discrete and wont lower property values like a bunch of people sporting swamp coolers will anyway, that 8000 btu soleus was making my room too cold, so I brought in a system w/ two 6990's.... so now I'm generating about 1500 watts of heat in here and it can still keep it cold at night. it does struggle a bit midday though, i'd say it gets up to 76o or so in here (95o outside). i guess the next question would be if it can handle the abuse for more than a couple months |
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Thanks everyone,
From the sounds of it, as I suspected, the general feeling is that they run hot anyways due to the dual GPU point. I will let it plug away at 90 C. Not so worried about the card burning out as I got it cheap, just didnt want to start a fire or anything.
Thanks...
Mine max out at around 75oC w/ ambient temps from 100-110oF in the afternoon. You should be able to manage that even with them at 1.05v, just dont use a case and have a honeywell fan. I LoL at the crap in overclocking forums, but, seriously, I wouldn't want to be running a card at 90oC 24hrs a day. 80-85o would be ok. |
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No luck, just getting paid for last week. It's an average.
But yippee! And good because I just left to slush because of stupid jalapeno.
How long would our share time need to be extended to in order to make p2pool work well with BFL hardware? once a minute? if you're using a remote server, latency would be like #3 on the list of things to check #1 would be fees, why pay a fee? #2 would be orphans, how many orphans is this pool getting? then #3 is latency, and mostly whether that latency is solid or if it's got major jitter and/or packetloss example: p2pool.org has 80 shares, 9 are orphans. that's essentially equivalent to the same amount of DOA's you'd get from 1125ms latency |
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I have tons of outgoing connections, I don't get many orphans. That's the point of all the connections.
Right now I have 1 in 47, and that one occurred at the very end of that 1,000,000 blocksize test... prior to that, I had the 3 orphaned out of 256...
6 outgoing connections only certainly isnt optimal, especially if you aren't listening for incoming connections... but, then, I only have 11 so far after node being online for over 12hrs. One of them connects within seconds (*cough* p2pool-node). Relying on 6 random outgoing connections to not get orphans? Some crap shoot
oh, here's a good example of why you should at least do like 2500 block size:
New work for worker! Difficulty: 5.000000 Share difficulty: 1218.324058 Total block value: 25.915000 BTC including 3 transactions
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no just 5, but they are worth 0.0145
how can you come to the conclusion that you have 0% orphans and 1% DOA and that 'default settings are best' on such a small sample i guarantee you will get plenty of orphans with 6 outgoing connections and 0 incoming |
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yeah i got .045 btc with just 575MH mining for less than 24 hours, feel so good
default settings are the best, 130 efficiency 0 orphaned and only 1% doa
so you have 100 shares and 1 doa and 0 orphans? at 575mh in less than 24hrs? |
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