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1581  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 07:11:54 PM
@ Ikeboi: Writing fake reviews to promote a product definitely translates into gain for the company due to fraudulently representing something.

Yesterday your line was that GAW was not actually lying, now you have switched to whether it is a prosecutable offense.

GAW is a pack  of liars. You are a jackass that defends them. Deal with it.

P.S: Gotta love the bit about "consulting my lawyer" about his favorite internet trolling topic. I believe you just as much as I believe GAW, and they publicly announce that they are a pack of stinking liars.

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I've said that it wasn't a lie, and you haven't responded to that yet, and still continue to re-quote your lies every few pages. What I was saying now was that even if it was, it wouldn't be prosecutable. Read a little more carefully.

Why is it ok for you to lie but not gaw? I pointed out some lies you posted. You ignored that and posted them around 10 more times. Then you tried to twist my words to imply that I've given in, all without responding to my points above.

No, it doesn't look like you're interested in the truth here.


When GAW bought ZincPay, which is banned by Amazon, they changed the name. It became a different service. You can't buy out a service, change it, and then keep the testimonies. It's fraud. And yes they had to change it from Bitcoin to Paycoin2
1582  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 06:52:33 PM


1583  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 06:11:23 PM
On another note, besides discrediting people blindly following something, I'm doing this waiting for Paybase.

1584  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 05:56:28 PM
Oh, look what shill it is again guys!  Grin


sigh* all I can do is call people names and pretend I can prove something. You should start charging people for your opinion. Call you the the paid shit talker. Just like everytime I look at this forum. Same old crap, a bunch of people pretending they're better than everyone. You sir are the shrill
HEY MORON, YOU DONE PRETENDING YOU DON'T SEE MY POSTS OF ARCHIVED STATEMENTS FROM CEO EXPLICITLY LYING AND THEN EDITING HIS POSTS? OR HOW ABOUT REDACTED WITHDRAWING THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF XPY, DELETING THE THREAD ABOUT IT, AND TELLING PEOPLE TO BUY THEM (xpy) UP FOR CHEAP?

This guy is something else. He plants the seed then goes back and digs it up ! Unbelievable

This is the original:

https://archive.today/W3OTH#selection-845.0-851.51

We will buy your XPY for $20 each with NO verification and as soon as you open your account!

Then he sneaks back after having said that and edits it to gibberish so he can't be called on it:

We will manange XPY to the $20 each with NO verification, as soon as you open your account!

GAWCEO posted    , last edited by GAWCEO

https://archive.today/4kqa4

https://hashtalk.org/topic/25441/paybase-launch-rescheduled
Archive of Redacted getting second thoughts about Paycoin and GAW.

https://archive.today/4znIF

Seems like even the most loyal of shills are having their problems. Lmfao. Wonder what Redacted is doing with those hundreds of XPY? Not dumping them I'm sure Roll Eyes

Edit: He mentioned 3 thousand, not hundreds. Strange that's almost the exact volume on cryptsy this last down trend...and he's actually telling people to buy up cheap coins. LOL could this be any more obvious?

shadow banning? Better call batman. Or better yet "shadow banned on hashtalk.org scamcoin saver guy antibanned shill I mean shrill MAN" you should make up some new words dummy
So, you're ignoring the evidence I provide to call me names? Really speaks to your legitimacy. You're exposed now, just as most of this operation is. KEEP PRETENDING! Grin
Why haven't you stopped shilling and replied to me, one of the most authentic and proof providing members on this forum? I notice you calling people names, spreading FUD and trolling here (Hashtalk TM) without actually responding to me and my evidence. Why is that?
Its irresponsible to claim someone is partially telling the truth. In a court of law one lie proves your a liar and your testimony is thrown out.
STILL HE CONTINUES TO POST WITHOUT ADDRESSING ME. Continued quoting for a page by page basis so people can see and read this. This may be the most important material on this thread, with archived proof of GAW CEO lying and then editing it shortly after to cover his ass. Well, he couldn't cover it in time. I could care less about this shill who continues to post here, even addressing me sometimes but only to call me names and not refute any of the proven legal proof I have (at the credit of others).

*all red text cause I'm frustrated trying to get my point across in a domineering communist manner* I'm right, your al wrong look at my reputation. When I say scam, ITS ULTIMATE. COW DOWN BEFORE YOUR RULER. GAW IS HORRIBLE, I SAY SO!!! Brawr
It's entertaining you're actually just exposing yourself more and continue to ignore the facts and evidence while still calling people names and trying to mock them. I guess that's the last resort you have when you can't refute my archived proof.
*name calling*, *name calling*, I'm right, your wrong, look at my "facts" I posted on the internet so it must be true
And still he continues. I think I've done enough here. He's exposed completely and entirely, ignoring archived proof, and continuing to mock Grin I'll repost this on every page so people can see their tactics, as I myself have stopped reading every page and just usually skip to the last few. Good day shill, and thank you for continuing to prove my point. Anybody with logical thinking will see this and run for the hills! I commend you sir, you played exactly as I thought you would. It's not easy to predict someone's entire moves in advance. I checkmate you now. Goodbye.
you forgot pink text... That helps your case against gaw
LOL, I'm simply highlighting these quotes to capture people's attention. I find it humorous all you are reduced to is now trying to somehow discredit me because I use colored text Grin YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP PEOPLE HAHAHAHA! I'm done after this one, he's already revealed himself enough. Really dude? Making fun of somebody and trying to discredit them because they highlight their text with color to draw attention to your bullshit? GAWesome!
In case people forgot
1585  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 05:09:40 PM

P.S: GAW FINALLY took down the fake testimonials. Did the one person at GAW with a tiny bit of common sense return from Christmas vacation and realize that they were publicly announcing that GAW is a pack of stinking liars and decide to pull the page with the FAKE testimonials??

Holy shit, you're right. And it's archived. 100% fraud detected and legal proof available. READY THE LAWYERS.



So this lie is still going around. I posted a response https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9969146#msg9969146 and haven't gotten any replies yet, but people are continuing to repost this lie deliberately. There's no other explanation at this point.

Now for a direct response for someone who's told me to learn the law. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg9975540#msg9975540 Even if it were true that gaw lied about paysave/paybase, it would not be basis for a legal case against gaw. I spoke to a lawyer about this point this week. There's a legal concept called consideration, which means that a promises are only binding if  the one that makes them benifits directly from them. (Look it up yourself, I'm simplifying, it's not easy to explain in one sentence.) This means that a company can't be sued with cause for lying in advertising unless that caused a direct gain to the company. Writing fake reviews is not a lie that leads to a direct gain. The lawyer I spoke to said that the promise of $20 a coin is not one that can be upheld in court either as legally binding.
So, you're saying lying about how good a service is to promote sales and use of the service isn't direct gain? Get real buddy. The $20 thing isn't going to hold up in court, because all they would have to do is buy one coin for $20. Lol
1586  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 04:59:21 PM
Lol, did GAW seriously state that you would get 1% interest every day? What a joke
1587  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 04:43:01 PM

P.S: GAW FINALLY took down the fake testimonials. Did the one person at GAW with a tiny bit of common sense return from Christmas vacation and realize that they were publicly announcing that GAW is a pack of stinking liars and decide to pull the page with the FAKE testimonials??

Holy shit, you're right. And it's archived. 100% fraud detected and legal proof available. READY THE LAWYERS.

1588  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 04:25:22 PM
I don't think you have to have admin access to see stats like how many people visited a page. I could be wrong, I never was into web apps. They're so exploitable.
1589  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 04:22:36 PM
If this works out, I know ways to exploit their systems to gain MASSIVE free money with no risk 1337 style. I kind of hope it works so I can leach their entire company.






Sure that wouldn't get you in trouble with law in any way, shape or form after you just posted that. (You know, now they can blame you if anything goes wrong.)
Not really. You might want to familiarize yourself with the law. Just because somebody says something doesn't mean they'll follow through and if there's no evidence, then there isn't a case. That's if GAW could even get a clue and have a better IT team to even notice it lol.
1590  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 04:10:58 PM
If this works out, I know ways to exploit their systems to gain MASSIVE free money with no risk 1337 style. I kind of hope it works so I can leach their entire company.


1591  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 03:48:52 PM




A plugin that converts XPY into Bitcoin or USD fiat  doesn't mean that a merchant accepts XPY directly. Bitcoin has plenty of services that do that already.
So because it is GAW it is bad to have that feature? A feature that they bought when they bought a company??




They bought that company in order to get that feature, in order to make appear as though XPY is accepted directly by merchants.
The only problem being the company they bought was already banned by every retail they tried to use it on (Amazon) LOL. GAW needs a few more IQ points on their team it seems. Who buys a company to use it for something that it was banned for?

Look up at that chat log I posted. He didn't even know it was banned lol. He's in cryptsy trying to get everyone to pump XPY now.

Quote
mastertrader777
Guys keep building the walls .038 and lower and lets push the bots up with the 30's into the 40's.
Lol. That may or may not be Josh, but I can assure it sounds like redacted. Upon further analyzing, the grammar is too good to be Josh. Typical pump and dump bullshit going on. Some hype master shouting around and telling people GO GO GO BUILD THE WALLS!!!
1592  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 03:42:54 PM




A plugin that converts XPY into Bitcoin or USD fiat  doesn't mean that a merchant accepts XPY directly. Bitcoin has plenty of services that do that already.
So because it is GAW it is bad to have that feature? A feature that they bought when they bought a company??




They bought that company in order to get that feature, in order to make appear as though XPY is accepted directly by merchants.
The only problem being the company they bought was already banned by every retail they tried to use it on (Amazon) LOL. GAW needs a few more IQ points on their team it seems. Who buys a company to use it for something that it was banned for?
1593  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 02:35:24 PM
*Insert sitting back eating popcorn meme here*
1594  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 03:36:37 AM
Sigh, Ikeboy you didn't even read the archive did you. Such a fail.

I did. I'm not usually one to complain, but....
There doesn't seem to be much point in having a blazingly fast network to support Paycoin if every little 200 or 300 hundred XPY withdrawal I try to do from Zencloud has to sit for hours and hours awaiting verification.
#JustSaying

That says 300, not 3000. I gave a possible reason for someone to withdraw without meaning to sell. Again, I don't know if that's what happened, I'm not redacted.

Also, I made a post about gaw's pr and it hasn't got deleted yet: https://hashtalk.org/topic/26170/i-think-gaw-could-have-better-pr/8
"redacted
redacted
 Paycoin Origin
@hytekk Thanks. OK - so to withdraw 3000 XPY 50 at a time will take me what? 60 separate withdrawals?"

You didn't read shit. Stop posting FUD (HashTalk (TM)). Read more than 5 sentences next time k champ.

"redacted
redacted
 Paycoin Origin
@MrCoins Thanks. That cuts it down to taking just 30 hours then.... Or I guess I could just do one big transfer and wait for it to be manually authorized. Probably faster with less aggravation that way...
Well OK - just started a 2500 XPY withdrawal. Guess I'll just call it a night and check to see if it went out in the morning....
Good night all. I'm feeling pretty beat up - going to call it a day...."

https://archive.today/4znIF#selection-7194.2-7273.71

Sorry, I didn't think there was a need to look through all 15 posts when what was claimed seem to be from the first post. You're right.
I don't think you're a shill Grin You actually accepted archived proof. Something which a lot of the GAW fanboys don't do at all costs haha
1595  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 02:12:41 AM
Price is moving "fast" guys. Oh, wait, no the charts say otherwise haha.

1596  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 02:10:53 AM
Quote
when/if they DO come true?

Hope is an optimistic attitude of mind based on an expectation of positive outcomes related to events and circumstances in one's life or the world at large

Cart Before Horse

put the cart before the horse to do things in the wrong order

Deciding what to wear before you've even been invited to the party is rather putting the cart before the horse, isn't it?


Gaw Miner is a scam, pay coin is a scam coin and the operator is a scam artist. He will keep presenting hope, in the hope that it will eventually all work out.



It did work out for anyone who mined their "coupons."  Open your eyes.
The large majority of people are only ROIing on paper. You can tell by the low volume on exchanges compared to the amount of coins (12.5 million) that were "couponed".
1597  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 29, 2014, 12:59:35 AM
https://hashtalk.org/topic/26239/paybase-to-acquire-coin-swap



Quote
Paybase has entered in to an agreement to purchase Coin-Swap

We will be integrating it directly in Paybase to allow other coin holders to move to XPY without friction



You mean "that exchange nobody had heard about until a couple of days ago"... pretty sure thats what josh called it and put it in a negative light, only now to buy it LOL... fucker changes stances and moods like the wind.
This is really just getting depressing. I think I have a screenshot of it lol let me check my other computer.


There you go my friend Grin Please don't spread FUD relating to that market that nobody's heard of that we're going to buy in a week or 2. LMFAO. YOU REALLY CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!! Every time my mind gets reblown.
1598  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 28, 2014, 11:43:51 PM
https://hashtalk.org/topic/26146/someone-sent-97-xpy-to-cryptodouble

Isnt it a bit ironic these idiots are all talking about this as a scam yet they cant see the scam they are in already. 
Not really. I think the funny part is that GAW was promising to quintuple their money, not just double it Wink
1599  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 28, 2014, 10:58:54 PM
ZincSave was shut down by Amazon. That was the the plugin GAW bought. It violates retailer's terms of service. They will of course shut down PaySave as well.
1600  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 28, 2014, 09:12:20 PM
This thread will be FAR more interesting and FAR less redundant in 3 months, no matter what way it turns out. Less hyperbole, less conjecture, and less speculative guesswork.

We hope you are right and GAW and paycoin can be vindicated, until than we will persist warning others until GAW addresses the incredibly low evidentiary bar we have given them.

They can start by showing all the miners they are looking to sell(not simply that one row which is a fraction of their past sold mining power.) and provide receipts for purchased miners (5PH is the only thing confirmed thus far)Additionally, I want to see paybase open and that 20 dollar floor set supported by that 100 million dollars in capital where clients are allowed to withdraw or spend the funds.

We are awaiting and hope to have our fears placated.

So in a normal situation, shouldn't the company be given the opportunity to launch said Paybase and said $20 floor before all the slander? Or is it guilty before proven innocent?
Oh, I thought you heard. There is no floor anymore is what it looks like. GAW CEO himself.

This is the original:

https://archive.today/W3OTH#selection-845.0-851.51

We will buy your XPY for $20 each with NO verification and as soon as you open your account!

Then he sneaks back after having said that and edits it to gibberish so he can't be called on it:

We will manange XPY to the $20 each with NO verification, as soon as you open your account!

GAWCEO posted    , last edited by GAWCEO

https://archive.today/4kqa4
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