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161  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: GF is stuck on another continent without money. on: March 22, 2013, 12:30:06 AM
Which continent is she stuck on?

All the 'what ifs' here are a good therapy session.
162  Economy / Services / Re: Forum Treasures Public Addresses for Transparency on: March 20, 2013, 04:30:55 PM
OK, I defer to Theymos' thread. I'll let this one fall into the history hole.
163  Economy / Services / Re: Forum Treasures Public Addresses for Transparency on: March 20, 2013, 03:14:39 PM
Since this 'contract' is just getting started, I'm assuming the Non-Funded accounts have just not been funded yet.
164  Economy / Lending / Re: Something small / short-term... on: March 20, 2013, 05:26:18 AM
I'll just give you 0.1 BTC for a pic of you holding a Bama sign in front of LSU.  lol...
165  Economy / Services / Forum Treasures Public Addresses for Transparency on: March 20, 2013, 01:21:12 AM
Public Accounting for Transparency


Amt.      Nick                                                    Public Address                                Last Block Chain Verification

1000     casascius

1000     John                                       1Kf1nT7jQnFC7N3tSdgg5qKGTV4MucfpBg                  20MAR2013

750       Meni Rosenfeld

750       Rassah                                   1HQ8WaKVRYXLBtVdMcYr5SHQ3X9BsLyxa1              No Funds @ 20MAR2013

750       eleuthria

500       DeathAndTaxes

500       OgNasty

250       CIYAM Open                              1BuANiueZAiNashSCfGV5Gmj9P8ReG1D8N              No Funds @ 20MAR2013

250       Ryland R. Taylor-Almanza

250       paraipan                                   1PFkqgBBrSKikyyUGDerZMfzvCNPgKrR3o                 20MAR2013

250       Garr255
166  Economy / Services / Re: Looking for people to store some of the forum's money on: March 19, 2013, 06:48:37 PM
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Contract signed and returned to theymos. For the record, the public holding address is 1Kf1nT7jQnFC7N3tSdgg5qKGTV4MucfpBg .

Shouldn't that be public holding addresses?

I'm assuming that each of these 'treasures' have gpg signed an address for where they will be holding the forum's money for the community to monitor and watch.
167  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I am a certified Anti-Money Laundering agent. (AMLCA) on: March 19, 2013, 06:30:21 PM
Have you heard of a "Yard Sale"? Millions upon millions of people have them every week end. Yard Sale at <insert coffed shop here>.

It's funny how regulations try to solve the problems from the wrong side of the equation. You try to stop criminal activities AFTER the fact, rather than try to prevent them BEFORE the fact.

168  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Casascius coins illegal in the US? on: March 18, 2013, 12:50:16 PM
18 USC § 486:

"Whoever, except as authorized by law, makes or utters or passes, or attempts to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver or other metal, or alloys of metals, intended for use as current money, whether in the resemblance of coins of the United States or of foreign countries, or of original design, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."


Ah... well sort of... 11 States the last time I checked have re-instituted their right to use Gold as a currency starting with Utah, IIRC. Although those coins, have been duly produced by a Federal Government. Do so, basically allows people to buy gold coins without paying a tax. So you don't get taxed for buying currency.

But under your premise, AMPEX couldn't operate. They seem to have been doing so for a long time.

Casa Coins are A)Either an metal (silver or gold) or B) a token.  However the token is pretty much worthless just like the Dabloons from Mardi Gras. Their only value is the private key on them, which could be on anything. So if the government really causes a fuss about the tokens, he could sell Pet Rocks with BTC on them. Or Sea Shells...
169  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is there ever a case where the government could legally steal? on: March 18, 2013, 05:37:57 AM
Ask the citizens of Cyprus.
170  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Tim Wheat is Scamming as Sinkingbottled on: March 17, 2013, 10:42:57 PM
I did get hit with a charge back.

Guess what.  I won!

BTC_Bear I'm not going to comment on the moral ambiguity of my response to Tim Wheat's continued scamming other then to say my interaction with him gave me great pleasure.

I just call it bitcoin justice

DON'T FUCK WITH BITCOIN



On the other hand, Nice Gun Smiley
171  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the proper way to abbreviate the Satoshi? on: March 17, 2013, 07:33:46 PM
i don't even know why people are trying to reinvent the wheel..

again

satoshi's is SAT for short.

its been this way for years, so this thread is meaningless.



Well the wheel hasn't been invented until it is recognized as being invented. Sad but true. lol

There is an ISO section for it in the wiki.
172  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Tim Wheat is Scamming as Sinkingbottled on: March 17, 2013, 05:23:39 PM
Alice scams from Bob...Yolanda, Zacharia scams Alice but is honest. Should Zacaria keep the funds or give back to Bob...Yolanda?

This whole idea of 'getting back' is a rat's nest of problems.

I'm not sure how I feel on this, it 'might' curb scammers or it 'might' teach them to evolve.

In my view money exchangers should ideally be completely neutral, let others deal with scammers. Just protect the transaction as best as possible to prevent the scam. I.E. Say sorry: "No, deal."

As soon as the money exchanger starts to take sides, Trust as a money exchanger is put in question as to whether one's word is good. I.E. Sure lets do the deal, Oh but wait, you're a scammer, sorry but I'll just keep your money. That will be used as a scam of its own.


BCB, just my opinion, you did a good job at detecting the problem but I would have then kicked it to 'others' to speak on the situation. Keeping your neutrality intact. 

I.E. Bernie gets out of Jail and buys some Apple Stock, the exchange says: "Sorry, you bum you ripped off everyone, we're going to keep your money" He then goes to the grocery store to buy food but the grocery store keeps his money and doesn't give him food.

There should be a penalty for scamming but where does that penalty stop?
173  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Public request to all custom ASIC manufacturers - chip photos on: March 17, 2013, 12:07:32 AM
Looks like your MCU is rusting, that's dope.


Seriously, why would they do that?
174  Other / Off-topic / Re: Book of Satoshi on: March 15, 2013, 04:12:01 PM
BTC Genesis Chapter 3

1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD Satoshi had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath Satoshi said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, Satoshi hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For Satoshi doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
8 And they heard the voice of the LORD Satoshi walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Gavin and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD Satoshi amongst the trees of the garden.
9 And the LORD Satoshi called unto Gavin, and said unto him, Where art thou?
10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
13 And the LORD Satoshi said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 And the LORD Satoshi said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
17 And unto Gavin he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
20 And Gavin called his wife's name Eveonline; because she was the mother of all living.
21 Unto Gavin also and to his wife did the LORD Satoshi make coats of skins, and clothed them.
22 And the LORD Satoshi said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
23 Therefore the LORD Satoshi sent him forth from the garden of Reiman, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Reiman Cherubims, and a flaming firewall which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
175  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the proper way to abbreviate the Satoshi? on: March 14, 2013, 09:01:15 PM
Well there are many, the wiki for submitting for ISO recognition is: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_symbol
176  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the proper way to abbreviate the Satoshi? on: March 14, 2013, 08:33:53 PM
ⓢ    Purposed as a smaller unit of bitcoin. E.g. A hundredth of a bitcoin    CIRCLED LATIN SMALL LETTER S       Alt +24E2
177  Other / Off-topic / Re: Book of Satoshi on: March 14, 2013, 07:30:00 PM
BTC Genesis Chapter 2

1 Thus the Infinity and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day Satoshi ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And Satoshi blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which Satoshi created and made.
4 These are the generations of the Infinity and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD Satoshi made the earth and the Infinity,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD Satoshi had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And the LORD Satoshi formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
8 And the LORD Satoshi planted a garden eastward in Reiman; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
9 And out of the ground made the LORD Satoshi to grow every merkle tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
10 And a river went out of Reiman to water the garden; and from thence it was forked, and became into four heads.
11 The name of the first is Bitcoin: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Enersttin, where there is gold;
12 And the gold of that land is good: there is rhosetta and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river is Locidoins: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river is Nicetoil: that is it which goeth toward the east of Adsoigne. And the fourth river is Perlip.
15 And the LORD Satoshi took the man, and put him into the garden of Enersttin to dress it and to keep it.
16 And the LORD Satoshi commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
18 And the LORD Satoshi said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
19 And out of the ground the LORD Satoshi formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Gavin to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Gavin called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Gavin gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Gavin there was not found an help meet for him.
21 And the LORD Satoshi caused a deep sleep to fall upon Gavin, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the LORD Satoshi had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Gavin said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
178  Other / Off-topic / Re: Book of Satoshi on: March 14, 2013, 07:29:17 PM
  BTC Genesis Chapter 1

You're too late. I already did this one months ago.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125375.msg1338485#msg1338485

Your heretic revisionism will not be tolerated.

But it shall be brought forward, upon completion there will even be a reward... Smiley
179  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1btc = 43usd on: March 14, 2013, 06:45:08 PM
Discussing discussed discussions discusses discussions. Discus?
180  Other / Off-topic / Re: Book of Satoshi on: March 14, 2013, 05:53:29 PM
  BTC Genesis Chapter 1

1 In the beginning Satoshi created the void and the underverse.
2 And the underverse was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of Satoshi moved upon the face of the atoms.
3 And Satoshi said, Let there be math: and there was math.
4 And Satoshi saw the math, that it was good: and Satoshi divided the math from the darkness.
5 And Satoshi called the math Day, and the darkness he called Undefined. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
6 And Satoshi said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the atoms, and let it divide the matter from the atoms.
7 And Satoshi made the firmament, and divided the atoms which were under the firmament from the atoms which were above the firmament: and it was so.
8 And Satoshi called the firmament Infinity. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
9 And Satoshi said, Let the atoms under the Infinity be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And Satoshi called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the atoms called he Mass: and Satoshi saw that it was good.
11 And Satoshi said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and Satoshi saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14 And Satoshi said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the Infinity to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the Infinity to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And Satoshi made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And Satoshi set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and Satoshi saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
20 And Satoshi said, Let the atoms bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of Infinity.
21 And Satoshi created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the atoms brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and Satoshi saw that it was good.
22 And Satoshi blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And Satoshi said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
25 And Satoshi made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and Satoshi saw that it was good.
26 And Satoshi said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So Satoshi created man in his own image, in the image of Satoshi created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And Satoshi blessed them, and Satoshi said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 And Satoshi said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And Satoshi saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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