Nobody is willing to sell bitcoins and accept your payment by PayPal.

PayPal is reversible up to 180 days while bitcoin isn't which makes it quite unsafe for anyone to deal with someone like you.

Send your PayPal funds first to your bank account, then withdraw the cash. Use the cash to pay for the bitcoins.

$500K? Yes and no. Yes, against collateral of equal or more value. No, if entrusting that person based purely and solely on trust or in good faith.

Trust is naturally absent when interacting financially with strangers, let alone strangers who were arrested for a dishonesty offence. If you know a person was arrested for something like theft, it will take time and a test of patience to overcome that doubt and negativity.

Why are you digging up all these old posts from yesteryears? The posts you revived were from months and even years ago. Can’t you send them a pm or something?

These precautions are all the more necessary if you enforce a $1000 minimum trade amount. It’s too much money to lose in the event that these suspicions are eventually shown to be justified.

Better to err on the side of caution when all leads seem to point to this account being under someone else’s control. Suspicious enough that you are refusing to sign any of the staked addresses. This signing feature is a valuable safety feature. Whoever created it deserves a medal and a retirement pension from the bitcoin community.

Sell bitcoins to PayPal? I didn’t know PayPal buys crypto. Can you show me the link to that feature? Why sell coins to scammers here (and worry about chargebacks) if PayPal buys crypto directly?

Are you sure PayPal buys bitcoins? I just checked my PayPal account and there are only two options: either upload funds from my bank account or use my linked credit card to send money or pay for something.

Once a thief, always a thief. Problem with arrested offenders is they tend to be recidivists. It’s hard to kick a habit, as the saying goes, and human bias will usually predispose one to harbor doubts. If someone steals, I might find it hard to trust that person, unless perhaps the theft was committed to achieve a greater good (such as being compelled to steal a vehicle to save someone’s life or to remove that vehicle from someone under the influence of alcohol etc).

As for dangerous weapons, I think trust will revolve around other factors such as motives for possessing or manufacturing them and the kind of weapon. If the person recklessly endangered vulnerable people such as kids, then I doubt I will ever find the strength to trust such a person.

You need to have a registered residence in Belgium or in the EU to open an IBAN account with banks in Belgium. They all comply with EU regulations so you can expect strict KYC procedures. Relaxing the procedures will open opportunities for money laundering and account misuse by fraudsters so yes, be prepared to be identified.

I doubt you can open an account online. If a bank allows it, it will only be activated after they sight your documents. There is no shortcut to an easy IBAN account. They all adhere to EU rules.

No escrow, no deal. This thread is fishier than the grilled snapper I just had for dinner.

All this fake vouching stands out like a sore thumb.

Insist on using a forum escrow. Do this and you won’t be sorry.

Scammers should be purged. Pests. That’s what they are.

Escrow please. Use it for the safety of everyone buying from you. Here is a list of forum escrows:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910.0

Nobody will send SEPA or wire to you first. First things first, provide a signed address authenticating your ownership of 90+ BTC. Next, offer escrow from the list above. Third, discuss price and terms here.

Well of course they pay you to defend them here. To push away all that negative vibe and the countless unresolved scam accusations. To paint this scam exchange as the good guys while their scammed customers are to be blamed for being stupid to send all those coins to their hot wallets.

As for assuming anything about the link between your post and your ad, why would that be my or anyone's problem? There are far more pressing problems here caused by your scamming advertiser. Yes, it's totally understandable to be in a desperate situation, compelled by hunger or poverty to do just about anything. Just like saying goods things about a con exchange and portraying their scams as a legitimate operation. So you are forgiven for that.

If trading for cash, remember to meet in a safe location and to stay consistent with agreed terms. Changing locations at the last minute is a red flag because it pressures one (who might be on the way to meet up) to have no choice but to comply which can be potentially unsafe.

Inspect cash carefully. You want genuine and spendable cash for your bitcoins.

Refuse isolated and remote meeting places. If you agree to trade 1 BTC I suggest meeting up with that much BTC only to restrict losses in case something bad (knock on wood) happens. Store additional bitcoins, if any, in a separate wallet. Same thing with the buyer: take that much cash only and do not take credit cards and other bank cards to avoid being compelled to withdraw more.

Take all necessary precautions to avoid harm and financial loss. These are real risks. A simple search of recent news will yield a pattern of incidents which cannot and should not be ignored.

Your thread is littered with red flags. You are not comfortable with everything! You don’t want to meet up, claiming you wouldn’t be comfortable meeting someone in person? Are you serious? If you want to scam, scam properly. You want coins sent upfront and if buyers are not comfortable with that, they shouldn’t bother messaging you?

You want 4.5 BTC the quick and easy way. Anonymously too, given you don’t want anyone meeting up and identifying you.

Everyone, use escrow and insist on it. If he refuses, let him sit on his nonexistent S9s. Don’t be gullible and naive. Not everything shown to you represents conclusive and reliable evidence. I don’t mine and have absolutely no idea how mining works or where to buy these miners but if I desperately wanted 4.5 BTC I could quickly pretend I have the goods:

“Elevating” your status from newbie to the next higher rank works solely by satisfying the activity requirements and merit scores as explained on this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0

Finding sellers and traders here with 250K BTC is extremely difficult, if not impossible. Even 1% of those bitcoins is a challenge.

Double digit minus rates might make it more challenging. You might stand a chance with KYC-averse sellers or those who might have acquired their coins criminally. Legitimate sellers will not hesitate to use exchanges for near-market rates and payments via banking channels.

Curious sellers might probably also want to inquire about your motives. Not everyone offers to buy 250K BTC at any given day. Imaginative minds and the paranoid might even balk at the risks involved. An entrapment, just to give one example.

Who are you fooling? 5 year old kids? How much were you paid to post this drivel?

If that's proof, I'm the Dalai Lama. Anyone can make random transactions. Would you like me to replicate those transactions? I can send 0.001 to a random BTC address and use another wallet to "withdraw" 0.0022 to another address.

If you and these scamming casinos want to attract more victims ahem I meant gamblers, work harder on your shilling and vouching skills.

Can't find anything on your two posts above about using escrow. Can you help me find it? Been scrolling up and down a few times, have my contact lenses on... nada.


I did see that but a guarantee is just empty words. Can't take that at face value. What matters is cold hard escrow protection.

Sending coins to you upfront is like gambling.


I'm trying my best to believe that but it's too risky.

The problem with PayPal is that it is unpredictably reversible with or without your intervention. Without... happens when PayPal suspects something along the lines of a currency exchange transaction which goes against their terms. With... that happens when you dispute the transaction or initiate a charge back after receiving the bank transfer.

As for trust and feedback gained elsewhere, it's difficult to rely on them as indicators of credibility. The forum's trust system is the preferred integrity yardstick here.

Escrow cannot effectively protect anyone doing a PayPal trade because the risk of the payment being reversed defeats the purpose and role of escrow.

Be careful when sending PayPal payments to suspicious and recently opened accounts here or to those without substantial feedback. Scammers will exploit the risk issue as a way to insist that you send first before they do the bank transfer (which they won't do, given they are scammers).

Are you sure it’s your sister and not someone else you want to “sell” something to? Just keeping an open mind about potential scenarios. Scammers often ask for advice to make it easier for them to explore options if for example their victims live in places where buying bitcoins is very restrictive such as New York. To make it easier to get that advice they will often say things like it’s someone in the family, a friend, brother etc who owes money.

If she is your sister, she can wire you the money or send it by Western Union or Moneygram. And if I assumed wrongly, then I apologize. I’m just being open minded about this because the last thing i would like to see happen is for scammers to get all the help they need to fleece victims.

If the story is as you posted above, you can help your sister create a wallet, preferably one with private keys under her or your control. She can then buy coins from one of Coinsource’s ATMs. Or she can search for advertisers on Localbitcoins trading in NJ or CT.

It would be easier for her to wire you the money and you buy the coins in Europe or on an exchange.

Nobody wants it because PayPal payments are reversible so trusted traders here will not pm you. Newbies planning to scam you perhaps, yes.

You can dispute and charge back PayPal payments up to 180 days from the date you paid. Convenient, isn’t it? I know. PayPal has always been kind to scammers. Their rules make it easy to steal coins.

It’s a different story if you are willing to wait for 180 days to lapse before coins are released to you, in which case it might be safe to trade with you. If this is an option for you, use a trusted escrow to hold the bitcoins for 180 days.

+7 being Russia’s country code I was tempted to think this might be them trying to quickly find a way to liquidate all those coins behind the countless unresolved tickets they are accused of ignoring:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3057451.0

But then again this mght be just another scammer posting delusional btc figures, hoping to filch 2k euros from the gullible here.

Never store your coins on any exchange wallet. It’s risky and fraught with uncertainty. A paper wallet, securely duplicated and kept in safe locations, is the safest cold storage wallet. Anything exposed online, even if secured with passwords and 2FA, is prone to theft and scams.

DT members, please replace my red trust on this thread locker's post with yours:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3057667.0

I will then remove mine.

I tentatively tagged the account to prevent some gullible members from being lured into his whatsapp trap.

Thanks.