There are no funds loaded onto the card. It’s the IBAN account which are funded with euros when you send bitcoins to the linked btc address. When you use the card, it checks the account if it has any money on it. The card itself does not store any money.

As for reversing the bitcoins you send to Mistertango, you can’t. You can however use their linked exchange to buy bitcoins but I’m not sure if you can pay with the Mistertango card or if it works. I use the account for converting btc to euros.

You didn't seriously hope someone here would just send 15k USD worth of coins to you first?

Yes, strictly escrow with transaction between people you don't know. Or with anyone, for that matter.

Escrow list:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910

The unless you want to go first phrase however is a bit off-putting though. It shouldn't even be an option.

He probably means he wants to buy $11400 worth of btc and not buy them at price per coin. Or I might be mistaken.

Whatever the case, always transact with escrow protection. Use a trust escrow on this list:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910

Never send coins and money upfront to strangers without escrow protection.

I can also easily pretend to have 3,627.922242 BTC   

https://blockchain.info/address/1KwiztHT2ZkL9DLRYqK5Jpk9mPqGmMbKeB

Live cam, team viewer, whatsapp video, skype video... happy to show you my balance. Just keeping the coins because I'm bored but if you want to buy let me check if that Western Union at the mall has 29ish million in cash today.



Problem is.. I don't have these bitcoins! it's a watch list balance but gullible and naive people will easily fall for it so be on your guard! Being suspicious is healthy. Ask and check everything before parting with millions of $. A signed address is a reliable way of proving crypto assets. Everything else should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Just an observer here. As I mentioned countless times on my past posts, escrow is the safest way forward and it is never wise to rely on any information, be they emails or screen shots or any payment information, provided by the person you are transacting with. Always discuss escrow matters with the escrow directly.

Can't comment more, given the toxic and volatile language on this thread.

Let's hope this gets resolved happily but I doubt it. Threads like this tend to end badly.

Username: warningsigns
Loan amount: 0.075 BTC
Address for the loan: 3GQUKCbLsy5SeSohfXRBcC2DWVUMGHVFTs
Collateral: none (as discussed by pm)
Payment period: 0.0375 BTC every Sunday until fully repaid with first payment on Sunday 18 March.
Interest: 10% (Total amount to be repaid: 0.075 x 1.1 = 0.0825 BTC)

Reference address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935179.msg20497425#msg20497425

This series of high-volume posts is extraordinary. With a lifetime circulation volume of just 21m coins, where are all these hundreds of thousands of coins emerging from? Did they hibernate or something? Are these proceeds of exit scams? Or are these imaginary coins cooked up in the minds of wanna-be billionaires?

I find it hard to imagine how someone with, say, 500k BTC has the time to browse this forum in search of buyers. If I had even 1k BTC I would have far more important things to do and enjoy in life. My family.. the mortgage bills.. travel.. etc

I wonder what these scammers intend to achieve by infiltrating these accounts. It's not like they expect the original owner to simply give up and stay quiet about it. Can they quickly sell the account? Yes but they don't have access to the staked coin address(es) of the account so selling is probably not a motive. Will they use the account to scam other people here? Maybe but then again the account's original owner will have reported the phishing incident. The account will then be tagged in record time, giving little time for scammers to use the accounts for nefarious purposes.

It's not like they can access wallets within these accounts so I'm curious about their motives. Any ideas? Just trying to understand the dynamics behind these account thefts.

Sounds scammy. PayPal has robust security systems. I doubt this loophole exists. This sounds more along the lines of trying to sell that “loophole” to gullible scammers here. That or the more sinister trick of trying to show the loophole works by requiring people to send you $1000+ upfront with the promise of that money being reversed. Plus profits... which (I wonder) is sourced from where? From scams? You can’t generate legit or legal profits from the payment reversal. It has to be criminally gained profits.

Never buy crypto wallets from strangers. Doing so is playing with fire. I know and I understand, it’s all about that uniqueness. The novelty and that kind of stuff. But it all ends there. While it might look like something special, it is far from being a safe wallet.

Keep your coins in a wallet which you and you alone control. Private keys are for your eyes only. Never ever to be shared with anyone.

Get a Mistertango IBAN account which comes with a linked MasterCard debit card. More information on their website:

https://mistertango.com/en/

You will get a chip and pin card which you can use to withdraw money from ATMs and for purchases at merchants (yes, including supermarkets).

Opening an account is free. So is the MasterCard. You will get your own dedicated static bitcoin address which is how you deposit into the account. BTC deposits are processed automatically after 1 confirmation and immediately credited to your account in Euros.

The account also allows you to perform SEPA payments.

Problem is this is a brand new exchange and nobody should trust exchanges which pop up like mushrooms overnight. There is no credibility and no integrity. No track record and no extensive positive feedback. Anyone can hire coders and software people to create an exchange or trading platform in a matter of days and have it running with impressive words and nice UIs. For starters, you could be scammers hoping to cash in by enticing people to send coins to your hot wallets.

I suggest you escrow a large enough amount of bitcoins for the peace of mind of your customers. Nobody will send coins to your wallets upfront.

Here is a list of forum escrows:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910

Escrowing coins helps show you have good intentions. Again, nobody will send coins to your exchange upfront. I urge and advice everyone to avoid using this exchange until solid guarantees are arranged with a reputable escrow on this forum.

$2750? A lot of money. Risky.

Remember, Skrill and PayPal are high risk payment methods.

Also remember to never send bitcoins or money first without escrow protection. But escrow is useless when deals involve PayPal. That's because it can be disputed and reversed up to 180 days. A generous window of opportunity for scammers to exploit.

Looks like OP prefers Skype, the scammer's playground.

Threads like this spell doom. Best to avoid this.  

Edit... just saw that poll. What is the purpose of those two options to choose from? In fact it doesn’t serve a poll’s purpose.

Yes, thank you. Please never ever offer your card products to those who want them anonymously. Anonymity leads to compliance issues. Recent history and experience have shown what these issues do to the card programme. Scammers often use anonymous cards to perpetrate their scams. An example is by using Visa's Personal Payments and MasterCard's Send systems to receive fraudulent payments. Another is by confirming scam accounts with such cards.

A strong and robust card programme is what the community needs. Cards we can confidently use and spend with.

When contacting this guy on Telegram, be sure to keep one thing in mind at all times: use a forum escrow for this transaction.

Here is a list of trusted escrows:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2439910

Never send coins upfront, not even incrementally. If the seller suggests to lower the price if escrow is dispensed with, stop and refuse. Scammers often use price incentives or discounts to tempt their victims to send first. It's a scam.

Use escrow only and be sure to contact the escrow directly. Beware of spoofed emails and websites sent by scammers or screen shots and cut & paste instructions from the escrow. Always contact the escrow directly. Wait for the escrow's response. Don't be pressured to send coins or money first.

As for the seller, if the offer is genuine, follow the same advice above. Use a forum escrow. Never send the miner without first confirming that the escrow has the buyer's bitcoins in his control.

You are a newbie here without extensive trusted feedback. You don't have the 15 trust reputation points which you seem to think is what it takes for someone to be trusted. How then will anyone go first with you, given you have ZERO trust? Don't tell me you expect anyone with less than 15 trust reputation points to send you payment first? You do NOT seriously expect that, do you?

There will be no sending of coins to you first.

That aside, selling of exchange accounts is frowned upon. It is risky for the buyer. Sellers can regain access to the accounts by initiating the account recovery process.

You might not be a scammer but you are selling accounts, an activity which promotes and sustains scams on this forum. Newbie scammers buy your accounts and use them to scam other members here or to fraudulently join signature campaigns. Effectively you are helping scammers perpetrate scams with these accounts. That explains the well-deserved -2 red trust.

Sorry but I totally agree with the trashed trust. Threads like this are a scammer's hardware shop. They buy their tools from you.

How do you intend to transact if a buyer chooses the no-escrow option? This is a tricky situation. Do you expect the buyer, trusted or otherwise, to send the BTC first?

The escrow option is safe so no drama about that. Just wondering how trust works without escrow protection. I'm not saying you might be a scammer. I'm just being open minded and direct about what I think when confronted with the options I quoted from your post above.

Forum-wide advisory: use a trusted forum ESCROW for all these large-volume offers popping up like mushrooms in the marketplace section. Heed this critically important advice for your financial safety.

Never ever send money or coins upfront without escrow protection, not even incrementally.

A signed bitcoin address showing and proving your ownership of those 30k (or more) bitcoins will help convince doubtful members here.

Please disprove us. I too must admit this sounds extremely fishy. That would be USD 276,300,000. Good luck convincing any bank on this planet to transfer that kind of money.


This is a red flag. An agent mediating on behalf of a seller. So basically you do not have any coins?