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1621  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts when all Bitcoins are mined? on: November 09, 2022, 02:41:19 PM
This discussion has been over the forum lot of times and we are worrying about what will happen after a century a period where we can't predict anything at all.The miners rewards are transaction fees and block rewards at the time and till 2140 they will be earning mining rewards even halfed it will be worth it depending on the price levels at that time.
When bitcoins start to run out of mined, the mining process will be completed, meaning that there will be no more Bitcoin incentives to be earned by Miners and will only function as trades. However, if it is associated with economic principles, when bitcoin is scarce and increasingly difficult to obtain, there will be a very large price spike.

This means Bitcoin will most likely become an important asset once mining is complete, even more valuable than it is today. For this reason, it is very appropriate if today we start to collect them slowly, because when bitcoins are getting scarce it will be very difficult for us to invest, the concept of economics will usually be appropriate if it is associated with similar cases.
1622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: November 09, 2022, 11:35:19 AM
Liverpool is not having a good season compared to last season. But I can comfortably state that although Real Madrid still has the same caliber of players they had last season, their performance has also reduced slightly, specifically because of the injury crisis of Karim Benzema. Their attack can never be the same without the attacking prowess of the world's best player.  
Liverpool are having an inconsistent season, while Real Madrid are still pretty good so far, although in their last match they surprisingly lost to Rayo Vallecano 3-2. Karim Benzema is predicted to play against Liverpool, this is obviously very profitable for Real Madrid, because this player has a lot of experience in the Champions League, although the match will be fierce, I think Real Madrid's chances of winning are much bigger.
1623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: November 08, 2022, 04:28:53 PM
To be honest I'm not surprised that Real lost the game to Rayo Vallecano... The previous game against Celtic, where Real scored a lot of goals, the draw against Girona and the loss to Leipzig took a lot out of the team... And Rayo Vallecano has been playing well of late... So it was logical that Real lost in the end... And now it will be psychologically difficult for them because Barcelona are in first place in the standings...
Real Madrid was not able to take advantage of several opportunities in the match, a quick goal scored by Santi Comesana in the 5th minute made the Real Madrid defense a little difficult to guard Rayo Vallecano's attack. Only in the 37th minute Real Madrid were able to create a chance through Luca Modric's penalty and Eder Militao doubled their advantage in the 41st minute, while Rayo Vallecano was able to equalize through Alvaro Garcia before the end of the first half.
In the second half, the tension got hotter, so many yellow cards were given by the referee in the match, unfortunately a penalty in the 67th minute made Real Madrid suffer their first defeat in La Liga, while making the temporary standings taken over by Barcelona
1624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if she receives Bitcoin as gift on: November 08, 2022, 03:08:29 PM
This is what bitcoin is, but if they don't have the understanding of what you mentioned above about bitcoin it won't be of anything to them. Bitcoin as birthday gift will be meaningful to them except they understand it value and knows what it is. Giving bitcoin to people who don't know much about it is like giving money to a baby who does not know what to do it. Bitcoin should be given to those who have Interest for it and make more value from it.
The most important thing is not only giving gifts, we need to teach anyone about independence, it is okay to give gifts, even though this is not a good culture to apply in life.
But I think the gift given must be able to be used, for example the OP gives a bitcoin gift to his brother, what needs to be considered is whether his brother can increase the number of bitcoins he currently has, because if it only stops at the giving stage, the bitcoins given will not be able to play a role in investment implementation. Knowledge of Bitcoin, Blockchain, wallets, and others needs to be taught in as much detail as possible, so as not to get lost in a narrow understanding.
1625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: November 08, 2022, 12:17:23 PM
Nobody is denying them their victory but just because they were champions last season doesn't make them a likely champions this season (especially as they don't have the goat at his prime, playing for them). The season they won the trophy they did humiliated the premier league side but that doesn't mean they were better than them with their on field play, they were just smarter and got the vital goals they needed. A Manchester city side would destroy this Real Madrid team anyday and so will an informed Liverpool side but when it comes to the final game Real Madrid always has an edge due to the experiment they have from playing multiple finals.
There is no certainty that Real Madrid will appear easy against Liverpool, draws, defeats and one win in Real Madrid's last three matches are the basis that Liverpool can still do something surprising for Real Madrid.
Real Madrid are inconsistency in the league, this should be an opportunity for Liverpool to take advantage of these conditions, because if they don't punish Real Madrid in the first leg, then chances in the second leg will be very difficult for Liverpool.

All I'm trying to say is that, you shouldn't disrespect the premier league side just because they lost to a lucky Real Madrid. The bookmarkers aren't dumb, they also want to make money and from their assessment of both clubs they have given Liverpool an edge because they see the quality in the team. It doesn't matter how many trophy Real Madrid wins, they're never the favorite and will never be. They only win when the other clubs don't live up to expectations.
In this I am a little different from my point of view, Real Madrid are still very ahead in the Champions League this season, because their abilities are still the same as the previous season, Vinicius Junior, Rodrygo, Luka Modric and Karim Benzema are growing and I think Bayern Munich, Manchester City and Chelsea also fall into this category.
As you said, all clubs will come out victorious, if other clubs do not meet the standard of expectation as winners.
1626  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will BTC reach 45k before this year ends. on: November 08, 2022, 09:52:31 AM
It seems that until the end of this year bitcoin is difficult to bullish. Even today, the price of bitcoin is still experiencing a decline where the price is still in the $19k-$20k price range. So let's see there are still two more months until the end of this year how far the bitcoin price movement will go and I'm optimistic the bitcoin price will reach above $25k by the end of this year.
There are still less than two months left for this year, Bitcoin has not shown a big increase against the price increase, the correction is still continuing until now, although there is a gradual recovery, but for the accumulated recovery I think it is around $30 k-$40k and will be the point of improvement around that price this year.

Then a small accumulation can be made for the end of 2022, while market sentiment still shows a decline before it reaches a cycle, it's good that this moment can be used to make purchases, because bitcoin may react in a higher price range next year.
1627  Economy / Reputation / Re: [FUN][In Merit] Post Count Down To Your Next Rank Here. on: November 06, 2022, 05:34:40 AM
I don't think you wanted to beg for merits by doing what you did, and i have seen many member's do the same thing in some topics in the forum, what i feel is that it isn't necessary, and i have read where merit sources have said you should not thank them for giving you merits because that is what they ought to do, give out smerits, you can 'thank' them by giving out your own smerits to other members and helping out around the forum with what you know. See this:
But as a form of gratitude, I think this is the right expression for those who have helped us in the forum.
And I believe, sMerit should continue to function as it should, and that's why we do it.

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By the way congratulations on your new rank lizarder Kiss
Thank you so much for this one
1628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: November 05, 2022, 03:49:20 PM
Manchester City still haven't fielded Haaland in the early minutes for the match against Fulham, Julian Alvarez will replace Haaland who is currently on the bench. It is possible to play in the second half considering Haaland has just returned from injury after missing several matches in the primer league and also in the champions league. Even without Haaland in the starting eleven, I don't think Manchester City will have any trouble getting 3 points from Fulham. Predicting City easy to win above 3 goals opponent with Fulham and Julian Alvarez still have chance for scoring goals.
Manchester City played a beautiful ball with two to three touches before making a pass, Julian Alvarez opening the scoring in the 17th minute with a lovely pass from Ilkay Gundogan.
Joao Cancelo made a mistake by pushing a Fulham player, so the referee gave the penalty for Fulham, Andreas Pereira managed to finish a shot into the left corner of Ederson's goal, the score returned 1-1 until halftime in the first half.

In the second half Fulham must continue to press and attack Manchester City, this is an opportunity for them to beat City at home and at the same time bring home the three points. The lack of one Manchester City player is a big advantage for Fulham.
1629  Economy / Speculation / Re: How fast will Bitcoin fall down? on: November 05, 2022, 02:57:18 PM
How reliable is Bitcoin
Have you looked at the history of bitcoin from 2009 to the present as a whole, there you will find how reliable Bitcoin is. Bitcoin's journey can never be hidden, because that history can be found anywhere for now.
Although many people hate and oppose Bitcoin.

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what will it be if someone will generate a new blockchain or another digital currency
What kind of results do you expect?
Bitcoin will not be affected by the existence of blockchain or other digital currencies, so far many coins are listed or not, you can check here Coinmarketcap however bitcoin does not follow its path, meaning that it is not bitcoin that is affected, but crypto or other digital currency that follows the Bitcoin scheme.

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will it make bitcoin fall down, and how fast
There will never be a fall for Bitcoin for this reason and even for other reasons, Bitcoin has become so perfect today as the King of cryptocurrencies and you will never find a capitalization of a trillion dollars in 10 years for any coin other than bitcoin.
Bitcoin is simply amazing and not even a single other coin has been able to do or surpass what Bitcoin does.
1630  Other / Archival / Re: I don't want to buy cheap bitcoins, I want to buy expensive ones on: November 05, 2022, 09:54:32 AM
Years pass, cycles pass, but nothing changes. Cheesy
The only thing that changes is the correction process, even though the same cycle occurs over and over again, the uniqueness of bitcoin lies in this kind of cycle.

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I wonder how much longer it will take for people to realize that low prices are a CHANCE to buy, not some kind of disappointment. Instead of taking this chance, they are burying bitcoin. Instead of taking profits or enjoying an increase in the value of their assets, they start buying. They buy at the top of the market, and then they say that bitcoin is a pyramid scheme and a scam. Now I am talking to some people IRL, who are also interested in cryptocurrencies
There is a kind of skepticism when people buy bitcoins at high prices, that's normal and happens often, because most people don't know what a cycle is, even though bitcoins can be bought in the market at any price.
But when people make the wrong buying strategy, it will happen and will be labeled "Bitcoin is a pyramid scheme and a scam". The fault lies in determining the strategy and entering the market at the wrong time.

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I ask: Have you already bought bitcoin?
Answer: No. I'll wait until he recovers.
Recovery in this case is still quite speculative, whether the person intends to buy bitcoin at $60k, $50k, $40k and or at what price.
Fortunately until now I personally have bitcoin, although not too much and still making purchases gradually. For me bitcoins are too much fun to keep slowly accumulating.
1631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: November 05, 2022, 07:28:12 AM
Yes, although I do not dare to predict a specific result, the most likely scenario is that Barcelona will win without much trouble against Almeria, as they are clearly superior and play at home. It will be a bit more difficult to win for Real Madrid, I think, who although they are also favourites to beat Rayo Vallecano, they play at Rayo's ground, who have  had a pretty decent start to the season for the budget they have.
It doesn't look like a difficult match, week 13 is an important match for Barcelona, ​​currently they are 1 point behind closest rivals Real Madrid, so getting full points in this match is very important. Ahead of the Almeria match, Barcelona received good news, where Eric Garcia's player has been declared fit and can play fully, with Garcia's presence being a good asset for Barcelona to get full points.

As for the next match between Rayo Vallecano against Real Madrid, statistically Real Madrid is more favored, despite playing at Rayo Vallecano's home and I'm sure Real Madrid will bring home the full points in that match.
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1633  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoin Obituaries on: November 04, 2022, 06:22:53 PM
This is good as a reference for those who continue to hate bitcoin, as a confirmation of the fact that bitcoin has gone through. I have found one of many sources to explain to them, that bitcoin is the best investment and similar asset that has gained a capitalization of one trillion dollars in 10 years, even though it has been considered buried many times by certain people. Sometimes we don't want to discuss the greatness of bitcoin with stupid people, because indeed they like stupidity and consciously reject the facts about the greatness of bitcoin.

Technological developments do not make them aware that bitcoin has reached the moon, even though the history of bitcoin's journey is so easy to find on the internet today. I passed one medium that said bitcoin had died time and time again. Even oddly enough, there are some idiots who don't believe in bitcoin, yet they acknowledge blockchain. Isn't this a simple level for us to understand bitcoin.
1634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: November 04, 2022, 05:08:55 PM
Lisandro Martinez is a good defender even if many people doubted him early on in his arrival. But quickly Martinez managed to blend in with Ten Hah's game and strategy at Manchester United where he had become a central defender who was played regularly by his coach. In the current match, Matinez is paired with Victor Lindelof at centre-back for the Europa League clash against Real Sociedad. I didn't know him well even at his old club, but his performances at Manchester United have caught the eye.
Before playing for Manchester United, not many people knew him, even I didn't really know his journey at Ajax, but his quality is extraordinary and continues to grow until now. In terms of adaptation it may not be so difficult for Martines, because he had previously played under the tutelage of Erik Ten Hag, so it was not so difficult for him.
Interestingly, he can play with anyone, be it with Victor Lindelof, Varane, Diogo Dalot, Luke Shaw or with Harry Maguire, as evidenced by the victory against West Ham United, although Harry Maguire has not yet fully discovered the quality of his game. That means David De Gea is a bit more secure and less hassle.

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That would be a good hope for Lisandro Martinez, and I'm sure Manchester United have had the best service from him this season.
At least until the 12th week of Martinez has proven its quality, even United's hope to rise has been seen, even though he did not do that himself.
1635  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is hodling top 10 Marketcap coins a good tactic? on: November 04, 2022, 04:02:04 PM
I wasn't talking about limit in tokenomics, but i could make a ton of arguments on the subject of bitcoin being historically strong and this could need a whole another topic and i am not the one having enough inside to write about it.
OK, now I understand what you mean.
and maybe this isn't a topic you specifically address for Bitcoin, but I think this topic is quite interesting.

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I could talk about psychological side of markets, PoW biased propaganda for and against of PoW, AML laws etc, but i might do topic for that later. I would need to consult actual experts when even scratching the tech side of it.
So I have to wait patiently for the next discussion, even though I want to convey the other side of market psychology and PoW propaganda.
What I know is that PoW has existed long before bitcoin, this concept was re-applied by Satoshi to prevent counterfeiting of the use of assets, because this is considered very important to protect, for example spending the same asset more than once.

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Let's just say that BTC is not out of the woods yet and there are ton of pitfalls that could stop the road to the moon. The argument of pure decentralization as defence is fascinating, but somehow overly mystified imho.
Although gladly assume that. However, my instincts still say no. Because BTC is the path to the community that I have built until now, even though they are not directly involved and know exactly what BTC is?
Confusion is anonymous, it's not actually formed but we know it.
1636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: November 04, 2022, 02:12:48 PM
As a Milan fan, I am happy with Milan's achievements in the UCL this time. But I still have doubts about AC Milan's chances of reaching the semifinals. Milan players are still not completely good, this is a serious threat. Because, when AC Milan plays against Torino, they can lose, of course the teams that AC Milan will face can be much stronger and better when playing in the UCL. This is what Pioli should pay attention to. Milan need better preparation to be able to win game after game to be able to reach at least the semifinals.
This is an extraordinary achievement for AC Milan, considering last season and this season is Milan's second time entering the UCL, after seven years of absence in this competition.
Despite having a good history in the UCL, Milan has not been able to match the big teams that exist today, there is a lot of work to be done by the coach, even though he is considered a dark horse in UCL this time.
Congratulations to your favorite club, they deserve to be back in the UCL and we are waiting for history to repeat itself for Milan.

I'm not too surprised by AC Milan being one of the teams that made it to the last 16 of the Champions League. Because in the last decisive match they only needed a draw to qualify, but they gave their best by winning the match. And their opponent is RB Salzburg who can only win against the weakest club in this group. But what surprises me is not AC Milan qualify or not, what surprises me is that they didn't try to get a draw, but they dared to go out and attack and it was more effective as evidenced by 4 goals against RB. Slazburg.
Milan went through an imperfect grub phase, losing against Chelsea at home and away, Fortunately Milan are in a less competitive group, having only faced representatives of the Austrian, Croatian and English leagues. Although this is not a good reason, but I think Milan are lucky enough to be in Group E.

Pioli must be good at formulating strategies in the round of 16, if you want to win every game, even though we know Milan will have difficulty facing clubs like Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich.
1637  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: November 03, 2022, 05:48:26 PM
The arrival of Martinez in the Manchester United squad this season has indeed brought a new color to the game. His duet with Varane is very promising even though they still have gaps for opponents to take advantage of. But it was better than our disorganized form last season, with even David de Gea frustrated by their defender's poor performance.
At the beginning of Martinez's arrival, many questioned why he had to be among the many players, yes, those doubts were because many saw Martinez's body posture which was considered not ideal to be a central defender. But now he has been able to prove that Manchester United was not wrong to sign him.
Many people doubted Martinez at the start of the season, because for a central defender in the Premier League to have a tall stature, but Martinez answered these doubts by giving positive results for his club, even though they lost their opening two matches.
Rio Ferdinand once said that Martinez has similarities with Gebriel Heinze and he has the opportunity to become a tough defender for Manchester United.
So far the duet Martinez, Varane, Tyrell Malacia and Diogo Dalot are the best in my opinion, the four defenders make David de Gea not so troublesome.

Martinez's performance is getting more and more integrated with Manchester United and with him at least Manchester United's defense is much better than before, especially when he was duet with Varane.
As for Maguire, he is still the same as the previous season and indeed he is very difficult to improve, especially at this time the hope of him playing more seems a bit difficult to do considering that currently Ten Hag prioritizes players who are better in performance than price.
Maybe you missed the Manchester United game against West Ham, although Maguire has not found the perfect quality of play, but he is starting to improve and is starting to find confidence, although there are still some mistakes made. Erik Ten Hag knows when a player should be included or on the bench, Maguire's case is no longer trusted as a starting player due to declining performance, so Erik Ten Hag took the decision not to play him.

But when players improve and confidence returns, it will be given time to play slowly. Erik Ten Hag is good at doing this, as evidenced by the players that Manchester United has grown from the previous season.

I have to say something. If being physically perfect was the way to be a better player Lionel Messi wouldn't have been able to be even a good player. The way Martinez has played it was impressive. Yes, I also agree that Manchester United did not make a mistake by signing him
We think the relationship between Leonel Messi and Martinez is not worth it, both have different playing positions, Messi doesn't deal with guarding the penalty area, while Martinez is an important wall in that area. More precisely, Martinez is compared to Gary Medel, Carles Puyol and Franco Baresi, although in terms of quality and contribution they cannot be matched, but Martinez has the opportunity to follow in their footsteps.
And it's true, so far Manchester United have been right to sign him, if you look at the contribution made to the club at this time.
1638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin reaches 19 million BTC mined. on: November 03, 2022, 03:31:50 PM
The amount that has been successfully mined is 19 million bitcoins as of April. I tried to browse through various media related to mining, but no new releases or issues I found in November. Many experts assume that bitcoin will run out in the mines by 2023, but the opinions of many experts I found vary.
If this assumption is correct, then it is certain that bitcoin will surpass $100k in the next five or ten years, so there is no other reason than to collect bitcoins from now on, before it is too late for us to own, because the potential for Bitcoin investment in the future will be very valuable.
1639  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is hodling top 10 Marketcap coins a good tactic? on: November 03, 2022, 02:21:38 PM
There's a point where you want to minimize your risk and just avoid losing any money instead of making it.
All forms of investment have a level of risk, when we start to involve ourselves in investing, we consciously admit that the risk exists, but sometimes people understand how to minimize the level of risk that will be caused.

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But i don't think that limit is $25k or even near it. Unless you live in a really cheap country, 25k won't take you anywhere with low risk investments. And while nothing is risk free, your only change to get rich is to embrace the risk and be bold.
That's why it's important to hold onto coins that have a limit in the market, or are at least historically strong. For example Bitcoin, why are people not afraid to enter the bitcoin market, because historically bitcoin has been able to bring ATH or its journey a big impact on the investments people make as a whole, although we cannot avoid corrections, speculatives and fluctuations that occur.
The comfort zone is not intended for people who like investing, considering that all forms of investment have different levels of risk, including crypto and bitcoin in particular.
1640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: November 03, 2022, 01:25:07 PM
But unfortunately Milan is a non-seeded team that will most likely face other top teams in the last 16. Milan's journey in the last 16 may be very difficult considering the current seeded team looks very strong like Manchester City, Bayern Munich or Real Madrid.

I wouldn't be surprised if Milan's journey had to stop in the last 16 this season if Real Madrid, Bayern Munich or Manchester City were the opponents. But if it's Porto, Tottenham or Benfica then I think Milan have a chance to qualify for the next round.
Unexpectedly Milan was able to win a ticket to the round of 16 and become runner-up, although they did not perform well in the preliminary round, losing twice, drawing once and winning three times. If we look at the final position for Milan, then they have a chance to meet strong teams like you said, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester City.

Milan's journey in the round of 16 will be very difficult, if they face a strong team, and I also think Milan's current strength will be quite heavy against Porto, Tottenham and Befica, even though these three teams are not favourites.
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