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1641  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Warren Buffet in 2014: “Bitcoin is a mirage, stay away from it” on: September 08, 2017, 10:40:32 AM
I sincere think his shortsightedness should be over looked because he has always been a bricks and mortar man and for same reason he saw a comparison  between Bitcoin and a check, times are changed now and new things taking over. Overall I think it was providence at work for us, because if he had seen the true picture of things, most of us would have already been priced out of the equation.
1642  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Profits and the Bubbles on: September 08, 2017, 10:04:26 AM
Majority of us here, as in 80 to 90% ? Wrong!
I’m f**king damn sure that 100% of everyone into Bitcoin are into it only for the profits; they’re into it just to make money, and nothing else.

If someone tells you that they’re not into Bitcoin to make profits, know that they’re bloody liars. Everyone came for the same purpose which is to make profits.
His assertion that 80 - 90% of people into Bitcoin were driven by profit was by the way not an after thought. For me, at the time I became fascinated with Bitcoin, it was still a rough diamond and I had come looking for convenience and ease of carrying out transactions online which was surely an issue back then. Paypal as always, likes to play the almighty and  I am just reminded of my forex trade earnings stuck in my Liberty Reserve account when the Fed took it down in 2013.

Looking back, wish I had come for the profit though, would have been stupendously rich by now, but no regrets, am already on board Bitcoin's lunar shuttle and we'll get there and those dreaming of a bubble had better keep a date with their doctors, we will be seeing market correction from time to time and that's normal.
1643  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does China have a large part in the world of cryptocurrency? on: September 07, 2017, 09:03:16 PM
China has a big market and we can not deny the effect they have on everything crypto related. Chinese are also known for being big traders of everything. they are good at it too.
but the size of China and its effect is greatly exaggerated in bitcoin. and it is simply because those who did it want to control the market and sway it in their own direction. which is why price going down is always because of FUD and panic sells. nothing else.
The name of the game as far as China is concerned is control, control and control. It has been their lifelong prospect to be the ones calling the shots in global affairs and looks like they finally got a break with cryptocurrency. Now see what they are doing with it, twice this year, they have had to puncture the flow of Bitcoin, just so they would pick them up at cheaper rates.
1644  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why people are holding Bitcoin? on: September 07, 2017, 12:54:00 PM
What makes people compel to hold the bitcoin in this critical situation? What are they waiting for? Any good reason?
People like me more tend to hold because we believed that even the price of bitcoin is not stable and its fall right now time will come that it will be pump. Holding bitcoin for a long time was always worth it. It was proven already thats why we are still holding for it.
I can say that even though the price of bitcoin is unstable, sometimes it really gets low and sometimes it gets really high. People are willing to hold their coins because they are waiting for bitcoin price to pump. Everyone believes that time will come the price will rise up and the bitcoin users will benefit from it.
I do not think long term holders hold based on a belief I think they are convinced that bitcoin is going to keep going higher, in fact even if the demand remained static, the inflation of fiat will push the price higher by itself, when you factor the growing demand then it is not really surprising to see the big prices that we see today.
Isn't belief and conviction one and same thing? The mindset of most bitcoiners is that the features and potentials of Bitcoin are not such that could be easily passed up by any sane person and therein lies the source of an unending demand for Bitcoin, which unequivocally is the launching pad for Bitcoin's lunar expedition.
1645  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: StopLoss-Orders: useful or not to hedge portfolio risks? Your experiences? on: September 07, 2017, 12:16:55 PM
I've never implemented a stop-loss strategy. In fact, I never have a strategy while trading and that's actually not very good. Personally, I'm kinda on the fence regarding stop-loss orders as it is possible to miss potentially gigantic profits.

Example: Ethereum rose to $12-14 in the spring of 2016, but gradually retreated to $8 towards the end of that year. However, it reached $400 six months later. A person who would have bought ETH in the spring of 2016 with a stop-loss order of 10-20%, would have probably missed the major surge of ETH in 2017 (unless this person would have re-entered ETH in the final months of 2016).
Those are indeed some strong points, stop-loss especially if not effectively calculated and implemented, can take the shine off a would have been profitable trade, but amidst lots of uncertainties and volatility, it becomes reasonable to look over one's shoulders often and on. As a matter fact, the whole essence of use of stop-loss is just to create an opportunity to re-evaluate previous trading decisions in the light of new developments and then make necessary adjustments, it does not mean a terminal sell or buy.

1646  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Hassle of Using Bitcoin In Everyday Life on: September 07, 2017, 11:36:08 AM
Just wait until Bitcoin becomes mainstream. This will be one of those threads we look back at and laugh (when the price is $1,000,000). Everyone will be using Bitcoin easily by then on our smartphones. Cheesy
I doubt we would ever get to the point where everyone would be using Bitcoin! let's be realistic and grateful that Bitcoin is what it is, instead of wishing for things that may spoil the entire party, should they show up. Are we forgetting that Bitcoin is a threat to local currencies, aside from few progressive minded governments, will every other government willingly support Bitcoin and facilitate the provision of enabling infrastructures they would make most dreams here a reality? The answer is no. So then the challenges and not hassles we face in trying to use Bitcoin is actually nothing compared to the pains not having it at all entails.
1647  Economy / Services / Re: VPS/Dedicated [US,CA,EU] - For Auto,Scan,PTU,Offer,Render,CPM...-LEGAL and CHEAP on: September 06, 2017, 01:50:28 PM
Vouch copy still working perfectly - still very fast and have experienced no downtime. I must say this is the best vps service I have used in year. Keep it up, Doflamingo! I would want to retain and subscribe for this machine by the time the 1 month vouch will be ending, hope that's possible.

I suppose plan 5 is Ubuntu? I would like to mine Ether with it, pm me BTC/LTC addresses if that is alright by you.
1648  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] YOLOdice.com Signature Campaign on: September 06, 2017, 11:05:50 AM
Payment for 28th August - 3rd September received, thanks Ethan-nx and the entire management of YoloDice!
1649  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I'm new to trading and haven't invested yet, is the dip over? on: September 05, 2017, 11:35:48 PM
You still have pretty good chances of investing money into crypto world. The dip and ups will keep happening and with current situation coins are not gonna get lower than this. Everything looks stable again after the over hyped news of China rules.
That's a fundamental fact about the way the market and other traded assets work - goes up and reverses at one point or the other and never continues indefinitely in any one direction. You may however want to ensue you don't end up buying at the peak price, or selling at the bottom and that comes only with right knowledge, experience and skills. Good news is that anyone that makes an effort can have them all.

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Crypto world works like this only and it's really unoticeable at every glance. So better take the opportunity to invest and keep the investment for over year or so. At least don't revoke your investment within few months from now as there are pretty good chances bitcoin is hitting next thousand in couple of months.
The potentials of Bitcoin is such that its upward projection is almost unstoppable, in no time the $5000 level would likely be breached, so if you are good to go, you can actually buy some, but will also encourage you not to hold them beyond end of the month. As yet, there is no consensus on a hard fork of the network billed for November and a major correction is highly probable about that, so you need to be neutral about that time but earnestly watching and waiting to buy at the dip that could ensue.
1650  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Loss almost 40%, should stop trading or not ? on: September 05, 2017, 07:08:43 PM
I think you should hold because as we all know that the market is too volatile and have a long patience. And put in mind the rule of buy low and sell high. Remember patience is a virtue.
Keep your patience until the price of your coin holding go the hell, is right? You need have stop loss and target, after do that, turn off your PC and reseach other way make money or enjoy free time with your friends, family ... In someday, profit will deposit to your account Smiley
There are two strong points in statement above:

1. use of stop loss

2. don't over trade.

Often times, the market confirms it has a mind of its own and we don't get it right with our predictions. In order to forestall situations like that from running out of hand, the smart thing to do even before placing an order, is to define the extend of loss you are willing to tolerate and when to throw in the towel. You have to first of live, to be able to fight another day. That's what stop-loss does for a trader. Then hanging to your trading platform can only lead you to start following market noise and end up over trading.

1651  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Making Technical Analysis Count In Crypto - Trading on: September 05, 2017, 04:42:03 PM
Honestly it never seizes to amaze me when noob traders jump to conclusion that T. A. is useless in crypto-trading, perhaps they had better wake up from their illusions. Here's how it is going:

T.A. is never useless and whoever said it, is in fact a noob! but at the same time it is not that useful either. specially for altcoins.

you see the technical analysis can never factor in the manipulation that runs the altcoin market, it can not factor in the unpredictable stuff that happens in the world. like for example when Bitfinex was hacked last year you couldn't predict that with TA. or you couldn't predict anything when August 1st was threatening bitcoin.
        
i am not an expert in TA by any means but i have found that it is good as long as you use it as an outline to only get a better idea of what is most possible
It is never possible to factor in every event in any trading decision, be it in forex, stocks, etc, because the factors are innumerable and some events like interest rates, Non Farm Payroll are however weightier than many others and  they do shake the market whenever they're in the air. Same goes for the hacking of an exchange, it sends shivers down the crypto-world.

At any rate T.A. are tools to assist a trader in making trading decisions, they're like your navigational aids, problems only start when a trader tries to turn them into some crystal balls.

In the first two images on Manaco, a Head N Shoulders pattern is building up in the daily time frame, that means, it is going to take some days to fully develop and in between a lot of things are possible.

After I had posted those images, a reverse Head-n-Shoulders pattern commenced in the lower time frames, which would ultimate supply the bullish move we are waiting for:









Below is original pattern formation taking shape nicely, price is expected to touch as least the red line before falling hard:

1652  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Making Technical Analysis Count In Crypto - Trading on: September 03, 2017, 11:09:12 PM
The previous market set up was a huge because market took off our targets severally. Meanwhile focus is now shifted to Monaco - MCO, it is about to make me good money, I actually bought some two days ago, but it only just resumed the trip, can anyone see the complete picture or what's cooking?



1653  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC upto 5000$!! on: September 03, 2017, 08:33:19 PM
The real Bitcoin is still under $600. Don't get lost and lose your coins guys.

I'm sure you are pointing the bitcoin cash mate and that coin is not the original bitcoin, you can actually see it by the numbers of supporter since bitcoin cash is not been suported yet by many sites these days. And Bitcoins are the one who's been adopted well and it is heading at 5000$ per piece.

My strategy is to hold both in equal quantities, just like before the fork. If by chance Bitcoin Cash becomes very successful, I will still make money. You don't want to lose out on that opportunity.
Interestingly, Bitcoin Cash is not even the competition for Bitcoin, we are going to have to wait till the end of November to see what the real competitor is like - users/miners. Till now, Bitcoin Cash is just one of the hen and the egg stories!
1654  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't Spend Too Much Time Trading? is that true? on: September 03, 2017, 08:19:29 PM
i'm one who spend too much time for trading. I made so many stupid mistakes because of thinking emotionally instead of logically. Cry
what is your opinion?
For me spending too much time is not totally bad. It is ok to spend a lot of time on trading as long as you know what are you doing, knowing better about trading and you can hold your emotion on it. Because i thought on of the factors/ things to  consider to be a better trader is to spend a time on it. But ofcourse make sure that when spend your time on it you are gaining a lot of knowledge about it dont spend your time for a nonsense reasons
It helps much more to have a well defined trading plan in place and to follow same religiously. That way overtrading - your emotions taking the wheels, which is a consequence of hanging on to your trading platform for so long, can be avoided so you only get to trade when the criteria in your plan are met or no trade is made at all. That's how they become disciplined traders.

Would like to point out that while trading, you are supposed to be gaining in experience, the knowledge was meant to be there well before you set out to trade else you ain't ready yet to trade!
1655  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Hits Record $5,000 Traders Initiate Sell-Off as Price Drops $400 on: September 03, 2017, 06:04:32 PM
whenever there is a rise like this which is fast and it reaches a round number there is always some traders that take it as their cash out point and they sell as soon as they see the rise slowing down.
and when they do, the pani selling starts and you see the big drop in form of a big red OHLC bar on the charts. it is not a strange thing and it is not a "sell off" really. it is more like a normal market behaviour.
It is called psychological level and in most cases whenever market price touches these levels, most traders intuitively take profit by closing a number of their open positions, which in turn leads to a drop in price. All the same, it's usually nothing to fret about, in trading, whenever a price level is tested, it becomes an indication that there is enough market pressure in the background to breach that price sooner than later.
1656  Economy / Speculation / Re: Max Keiser: Bitcoin’s going to be worth a trillion dollars soon! on: September 03, 2017, 05:25:56 PM
Anyone can make predictions, I appreciate that. Differences of opinion is common and there are pros and cons.
Even so, I really enjoy the bitcoin price today, than it used to be 2 or 3 years ago.
I hope all the predictions happen and everyone is lucky.
That is right, it is every bitcoiner's dream to see Bitcoin hovering over the moon and we pray it happens in our life time. However what is fact is that people's success through Bitcoin is not necessarily tied to its landing on the moon. As is, people are already benefiting immensely the impressive price, getting to the moon would turn out more bonus.
1657  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is Speculating A Bad Thing? on: September 03, 2017, 05:01:41 PM
Admit or not, we are all speculators here. And it is just a logical thing to do...why would you invest your money and time if you think that it would not grow or it would just remain the same? All of those people criticizing Bitcoin because of its speculative nature are people who are actually afraid to jump into the water and get wet.
Actually people do not speculate on just about anything. For something to be speculated upon, it simply means that thing has the potential to worth much more in the future and nothing tells the exact story of Bitcoin better than that.

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We who are brave enough to jump and get wet in the process are the people who will get benefited when Bitcoin can soon land in the moon...it is just a matter of holding into it and never get tempted to cash-out.
That's a fact, the early bird always has the advantage of catching the worm and fortune have always been known to smile on the prepared and bold! The moon expedition is on course and at the pace Bitcoin is cruising, we would likely land on the moon sooner.

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Speculating is not at all a bad thing as to be honest this is one of the many factors why we have people getting into Bitcoin. Will this speculation lead to that dread bubble as shown by other historic bubble collapse in the past? Only time can tell but I do believe that Bitcoin is different...comparing it into tulips seems like a bad idea and doing injustice to Satoshi Nakamoto.
Speculation is a strong statement of approval and recommendation that something is worth so much more and that begins to draw people's attention to the object. We can see that the adoption of Bitcoin have remained on the increase and that in turn, stimulates greater demand for Bitcoin. Apparently because of speculation, most people are hesitant to sell their Bitcoin, they rather settle to buy and Hodl, the resulting scarcity then puts pressure on Bitcoin, dragging its price up.

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But then again...am sure there are those who believe that speculating is a bad thing for Bitcoin...so give me your reasons why you think so...
Some people will never like you or good ideas coming from you no matter how hard you try - they wish it should have been them instead of you and so setting out to please everybody is such a grand recipe for failure. You conquer such people by continually putting in your very best in whatever you're doing.
1658  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin soon 5000$ !!! on: September 03, 2017, 02:45:53 PM
After see the price a lot of people are  going to invest in Bitcoin, nothing  can stop it

from increasing almost every day. bitcoins may be go down but soon it will rise and

recover its place. I think it can even reach $8000 by the end of this year.I can see

bright future with Bitcoin.

Let's hope it's true its price rose to $8000 in this year, because if the price rises make everyone happy
Holders sentiment on Bitcoin lunar trip have grown so strong and that's precisely the wind behind the impressive value of Bitcoin. Take that away, the events in the network prior to July 18th would most likely repeat itself!

Come to think that the palliative measure that wedged Bitcoin free fall in July will be put to test come November, do you foresee a situation where people do not panic and start selling off their Bitcoins or do you foresee the price of Bitcoin remaining unperturbed even in the even of a split? The answers to above questions would be the pointer to what price Bitcoin would hold by the end of the year.
1659  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy Bitcoin now on: September 03, 2017, 01:45:57 PM
You shouldn't wait for lower price. People like me waiting for the $1000 when it was @ $1500 dollar mark ended up crying because it goes higher and higher. If you are dealing with large amount of money buy now, the demand is going high so as with the popularity.  Don't end up regretting.  Wink
I guess it is far better to regret missing to buy than to regret buying only to lose it. Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency markets are here to stay and profitable opportunities will continue to abound especially if you have invested in yourself and procured the right knowledge and trading skills, then you could confidently approach the market regardless the prevailing price. You need to understand that sometimes, "Not to trade" is the best position a trader needs to take.

There's the deadlock between BIP191 and UASF over the hard fork of the network come November and presently Bitcoin is in overbought mode, advise yourself properly!

1660  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Message to the guys, that didn't buy when BTC was worth 100$ on: September 03, 2017, 12:58:52 PM
Yeah, and now we are crying in a bathroom like a girl Grin lol
But people like me still survive with current price, buy some at low and sell them when price is good, no more crying Cheesy
There are still many ways and opportunities.

That's right, I'm crying for missing the previous low prices. Anyway, we still have too much room for growth and this will be beneficial for all of us, if we keep investing in digital assets.
No need crying over spilled milk and good news is now you know better and would never pass up future opportunities. Though one source of concern is people's inability to recognize an opportunity even when it is right in front of them - they say opportunities come disguised as hard work! For instance the proposed hard fork for November can be turned into an amazing opportunity by doing a few things right at the appropriate time, while others freak out.
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