So is there a strong opinion that this address belonged to Pirate at this point?
actually everyone seems convinced its from SR
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cool, i rarely set a alarm anymore, mostly cuz i just forget to, or i believe in my super human bitcoin price prediction powers and figure i dont need a alarm but i feel we might see some low 10's some time soon again and i dont want to miss it. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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... Matthew Wright's prank, and it was a prank, not a fraud or a scam, since it was obviously never intended to make any money or deprive anyone of money, did teach a lesson, although i'm not sure it was the intended message. ...
I initially held that opinion to some extent, but some here have made some pretty compelling arguments that his initial actions seem to indicate that he started out with some hope of winning the bet. The strongest of these is that he did some of the bets under escrow and what he lost here seems to be a larger amount of money than one would suspect if he were just trying to pull a prank. If the escrow assertions are proven, it does seem to me that in Matthew's twisted mind he had some initial plans which shifted as the situation on the ground evolved. I do wonder if in Matthew's position as the editor of that magazine he ever had any contact with Pirateat40 and thus may have thought he had some info that most people did not? ya me too, at first i was like its just a prank, but then you realize that he would of taken all the money form everyone if he won and given a scammer tag to all the people that didn't pay.... He said on the forum and in an interview that he never had any contact with Pirateat40. He wanted everyone to STFU and stop acting like a bunch of trolls, and winning this bet was going to do that. Ironic isn't it ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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mtgox live is looks different not sure which is right. not sure what the price is atm ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimage.org%2Fpeqy1k28p%2FUntitled.png&t=662&c=GZCiN0_gmehM8Q) we have lift off!
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surprising no one seems to know =3. his videos gets millions of hits the day it comes out
Yes but youtube is full of idiots. thats what his show is all about really ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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surprising no one seems to know =3. his videos gets millions of hits the day it comes out
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2F1JQPJFGr2h4%2Fhqdefault.jpg&t=662&c=KCXGPNLuhYAKHw) Trust me you can trust me
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i take in all the News, current scandals, BS Maths and statistics some poeple post here. and formulate a hunch! oh and my hunch is that 10$ is the new 5 my fear is the 15 is the new 32 ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) My fears are slowly going away They can both be true... after a few million coins have changed hands at around 10$ i think its safe to assume 10 is the new 5 so far so good.
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I'm not willing to share my PMs with Matthew, but I'll confirm that as late as last week he fully expected pirate to pay (I don't know why and didn't ask). This fits with his original post about the community being too quick to label people as scammers (which is what started the bet).
I'm sure he did, but the fact that he wasn't able to follow through on his side of the bet proves that it was just a simple theft. Think of it this way please: IF PIRATE HAD PAID, THEN MNW WOULD HAVE STOLEN NEARLY A MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE COMMUNITY. When you see it that way, you'll realize just how bad his scam really was. He was gambling his entire reputation on the chance of getting a quick million, and he lost. Do you honestly believe that Matthew would have taken people's money if he'd won the bet? If so, you know a different Matthew than I do. do you really think Matthew would scam everyone? no one really knows Matthew. never mind what he may or may not do in some hypothetical scenario deal with it.
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where are you from?
lets get you setup to buy bitcoin your self on the open market!
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Sooooooo.... Who wants to start and open source alternative ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Meh, I'm buying a few bitcoincards when it comes out as far as i know MNW has nothing to do with that
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=3 is a youtube show hosted by Ray William Johnson. he reviews viral videos, and is often hilarious. I would like to see if their would be any bitcoiner that enjoy watching =3 and would consider donating if he accepted bitcoin.
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each thread has it own twist. and i enjoyed reading all of them ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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You guys that dont understand it.. its simple..
Its a stupid childish way to think about it.. a 5 year old attempt at a stupid technicality..
He just said he would pay out to his own address.. for each person.. so he would just pay himself 20 coins to his own address for each person entered.... and in some stupid bs play on words he thinks this is funny...
right and just to prove what your saying is right Matthew said this himself I already paid 20 BTC for each entry as described in the bet thread. I'm not quite sure what you're talking about.
which means he payed himself 20BTC 112 times, and considered that to be fulfilling the bet ( which he didn't even do by the way ).
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You got me there. I guess he paid it once for the entire bet not once per inidivudal bet. And He never even said that's was what he was doing Yes he DID. For the love of God what is your argument here? Nobody is defending Matt saying "Yes he won legit by this technicality". Matt claims to have lost the bet and paid. That is HIS CLAIM not mine. He just used that example again, telling everyone if you bet 20 you'll get 20... no? No. If you still don't get it. Well I can't help you. You should probably sober up and try again in a few hours. i get it, i was looking for this quote... You did not pay the bet, you are a scammer
According to which law? I paid already. Please see earlier posts. Thanks! Right as we all were betting just numbers and not actual bitcoins. Nice try. I already paid 20 BTC for each entry as described in the bet thread. I'm not quite sure what you're talking about.lol, ok. did he actually pay out 20BTC to everyone? Edit: not that this makes him any less of a scammer...
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adamstgBit,
You are preaching to the choir. I was just giving you the cliffnotes on Matt's stupid "logic".
He claims the sentence that he will pay 20 BTC to 13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM applies not to the example but to all bets. So he paid 20 BTC to 13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM 122 times (once for each lost bet) and considered the bet paid. If you think it is dumb well join the crowd of thousands but he has stated the bet is paid.
no he didn't http://blockchain.info/address/13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJMAnd He never even said that's was what he was doing He just used that example again, telling everyone if you bet 20 you'll get 20... no?
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adamstgBit, He used the example from his OP and falsely interpreted it to mean the terms of the bet were that for each lost wager he would need to pay 20 BTC to the address is his bet (his address) Pretty lame (and stupidly false) technicality. If Matt honestly believes he pulled a legit fast one on the betters he should allow it to go to arbitration before http://judge.me . i don't see anywhere him saying hes going to pay 20BTC this is own address that was an example someone places a bet like so 20BTC 13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM Optional comment and he will pay 20BTC to 13dSK4663Ts7j2PwHS1eUVjycKLBwx7PJM if he loses sounds to me like he was saying he was going to honer his bet!?
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