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1721  Economy / Reputation / Re: Lutpin and Bitvest on: October 06, 2018, 02:14:17 PM
Lightlord got negative ratings not long ago for not paying both campaigns, he refilled the escrow wallets, now lutpin is the one not paying, logic follows that he should get a negative rating as well until he pays.
There is no logic that can follow out of subjective tags from disgruntled semi-spammers. Those that tagged him can tag Lutpin if they want to. They don't have to, and doing so won't help them either.

''He can justifiably take his time, and your envy won't change any of that.'' Define Justifiably, specific number of days. Keep in mind this is 12+ weeks. And he could have paid since September 17th.
Are you blaming Lutpin, i.e. adding to his time, the time during which the funds were not deposited in escrow? "Logic follows" indeed. Cheesy

The solution seems simple, and is up solely to the employer. Find someone else, transfer funds to him and let them handle it. Although reading into the thread, there seem to have been issues with the other campaign as well.

''There is no logic that can follow out of subjective tags from disgruntled semi-spammers.'' You talking about yourself or who? You are wearing a signature. ''Those that tagged him can tag Lutpin if they want to. They don't have to, and doing so won't help them either.'' So tagging people that don't pay will never help anyone? I don't understand why people keep tagging other people then. I guess you are experienced with that since you were tagged many times and nothing happened.

''Are you blaming Lutpin, i.e. adding to his time, the time during which the funds were not deposited in escrow? "Logic follows" indeed. Cheesy'' I don't know, are you blind? I clearly said. And he could have paid since September 17th.

That's 20 days in case you don't know how to count either because clearly you don't know how to read.

In fact on the other campaign he did have funds to pay for 10 weeks or so, lightlord himself said it and he didn't pay that either.
1722  Economy / Reputation / Re: Lutpin and Bitvest on: October 06, 2018, 11:26:31 AM
Considering people gave lightlord negative trust, I don't see how this was unnecessary, your posts on the other hand are pretty useless.
Maybe you need to quit with your self-entitled bullshit? This thread is a bad joke at best. I wonder why he even kept you on board; maybe he indeed wasn't doing his job properly. Roll Eyes

edit: Also he is holding 1 BTC.
He can justifiably take his time, and your envy won't change any of that.

''Maybe you need to quit with your self-entitled bullshit? '' Great argument, I wonder how you got your 6 negative ratings fgrom 6 different people. Lightlord got negative ratings not long ago for not paying both campaigns, he refilled the escrow wallets, now lutpin is the one not paying, logic follows that he should get a negative rating as well until he pays.

''He can justifiably take his time, and your envy won't change any of that.'' Define Justifiably, specific number of days. Keep in mind this is 12+ weeks. And he could have paid since September 17th.
1723  Economy / Reputation / Re: Lutpin and Bitvest on: October 06, 2018, 11:17:36 AM
He doesn't agree with it:
''There was 0.24 BTC in the address, easily several payments could have been made after that date enough to catch up to being only a few weeks late, so it wouldn't have resulted in a 10-week unpaid duration, and generally, I fill up the address when it reaches close to 0 after Luptin sends a reminder that the address has run out of coins. However, I should of checked on the campaign and Make sure Luptin was running the campaigns smoothly, and the payments every so often. It went smoothly for a long duration, so I didn't check on it as much lately. However I should of checked on it at least once in a while the signature campaigns, so I do agree it's partially my fault here. But I was expecting Luptin to resolve this as soon as possible and hasn't as of yet''
-snip-
Then you should tell him to replace the manager with someone who will run the campaign smoothly. This was unnecessary.

/thread

Considering people gave lightlord negative trust, I don't see how this was unnecessary, your posts on the other hand are pretty useless.

edit: Also he is holding 1 BTC.
1724  Economy / Reputation / Re: Lutpin and Bitvest on: October 06, 2018, 11:10:23 AM
One of the worst managers out there and he has 120+ trust.
This has to be a joke of some sort? Self-entitled sig. spammers are at it again. Roll Eyes
The guy has been afk for 12 weeks on both threads. Is that a joke to you? I know he always paid but having 2 weeks delays for like a year now is not very good, wouldn't you say?
If his employer, lightlord, is fine with this then this isn't a question of "good or bad". If he agrees with it, then it is perfectly acceptable.

He doesn't agree with it:

''There was 0.24 BTC in the address, easily several payments could have been made after that date enough to catch up to being only a few weeks late, so it wouldn't have resulted in a 10-week unpaid duration, and generally, I fill up the address when it reaches close to 0 after Luptin sends a reminder that the address has run out of coins. However, I should of checked on the campaign and Make sure Luptin was running the campaigns smoothly, and the payments every so often. It went smoothly for a long duration, so I didn't check on it as much lately. However I should of checked on it at least once in a while the signature campaigns, so I do agree it's partially my fault here. But I was expecting Luptin to resolve this as soon as possible and hasn't as of yet''

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545750.msg46048345#msg46048345

The thread and lutpin said he would do bi-weekly payments or monthly payments, can't even remember, it has been around 12 weeks or so. Are you telling me that if I open a thread, bounty/sig and tell people I will pay them weekly, I can hold the payment for 3 months without any issues?
1725  Economy / Reputation / Re: Lutpin and Bitvest on: October 06, 2018, 11:03:50 AM
One of the worst managers out there and he has 120+ trust.
This has to be a joke of some sort? Self-entitled sig. spammers are at it again. Roll Eyes

The guy has been afk for 12 weeks on both threads. Is that a joke to you? I know he always paid but having 2 weeks delays for like a year now is not very good, wouldn't you say?
1726  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: October 06, 2018, 10:32:50 AM

Do you think that scientists are not trying to keep a person alive in top health for 500 years or longer? Don't you realize that it is the complexity of nature and life that is thwarting them? Even the best that is offered by scientists and researchers in this single area, is still beat by nature in a few areas of the world... like the Hunza's, or the people of Vilcabamba, Ecuador, who drink of ancient, melting glacial mineral waters.

Nature has us beat for complexity all over the place.

Cool

No, you said '' By finding out how complex the universe is in every way.'' And I asked you, how complex is it? Is there a number to the complexity of it or are you just pulling it out of your ass? What are you defining complexity as?

 Neil Johnson states that "even among scientists, there is no unique definition of complexity – and the scientific notion has traditionally been conveyed using particular examples..." Ultimately Johnson adopts the definition of "complexity science" as "the study of the phenomena which emerge from a collection of interacting objects"

You and everyone else can continue to ask all kinds of questions about all kinds of things. So what?

The point that Neil Johnson is making is that we are so inadequate regarding understanding complexity, that there is no clear definition.

The point that complexity shows is that only something like God can make such complexity. We have no evidence of anything else that can do it. Do you want a description of God? You will get some of it in the resurrection... or by reading the bible.

Cool

''The point that complexity shows is that only something like God can make such complexity'' Yeah? How does it show that exactly? ''We have no evidence of anything else that can do it'' How so? We have evidence that the big bang did it, we have no evidence that a god did it.
1727  Economy / Reputation / Lutpin and Bitvest on: October 06, 2018, 09:44:14 AM
So as you may or may not know, Lightlord received a negative rating not long ago for not paying people on Bitvest and 777coin. He eventually did refill the escrow address and Lutpin, the ''manager'' if you can really call him that paid people on 777coin. The Bitvest escrow wallet was also filled https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545749.2880

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545749.msg45905886#msg45905886  He also said he was busy and had problems and couldn't count the posts, that was on September 19. It's october 6th and he still hasn't counted anything, I don't know if this is really worth a negative rating but he does have 1 btc hostage and he is not paying, he has been online these days, even posted on the forum. One of the worst managers out there and he has 120+ trust. It's not even about money at this point, I don't give a shit, I barely even made 300 posts, I could have done 1k+ but this guy is so lazy it's unreal.
1728  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: October 05, 2018, 11:40:26 PM

Except that nobody has proven that BB existed. But if they somehow do, all that they will be proving is that BB is God, and that it was God that created everything.

Back to religion again.

Cool

Did you see the CMB on your TV?

BTW, if science finds out that God/alien civilization created our universe, maybe we'll be able to figure out how to communicate with it, and we'll learn more about it.

I for one would have so many questions...

I don't have or own a TV.
I don't know what CMB you are referring to.

Science already found that God created the universe. How? By finding out how complex the universe is in every way. Whatever created the universe is God, just to be able to create such complexity. See the Scientific proof that God exists? thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.0.

Cool

''By finding out how complex the universe is in every way. '' When was this quantified? Is there a calculation of how complex the universe is? Can you tell us how complex the universe is then? From a scale of 0-100?

Do you think that scientists are not trying to keep a person alive in top health for 500 years or longer? Don't you realize that it is the complexity of nature and life that is thwarting them? Even the best that is offered by scientists and researchers in this single area, is still beat by nature in a few areas of the world... like the Hunza's, or the people of Vilcabamba, Ecuador, who drink of ancient, melting glacial mineral waters.

Nature has us beat for complexity all over the place.

Cool

No, you said '' By finding out how complex the universe is in every way.'' And I asked you, how complex is it? Is there a number to the complexity of it or are you just pulling it out of your ass? What are you defining complexity as?

 Neil Johnson states that "even among scientists, there is no unique definition of complexity – and the scientific notion has traditionally been conveyed using particular examples..." Ultimately Johnson adopts the definition of "complexity science" as "the study of the phenomena which emerge from a collection of interacting objects"
1729  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] UBEX on: October 05, 2018, 11:38:14 PM
I don't think so that this ICO is a scam because they all ready invested big amount of money and got listed in many big exchange market and also invested in promotion. But this will end in cent after their ICO the token will surely dump.


Bro, where did you see big exchanges ? Do you mean scam exchanges like these in the list? By the way, there are many scam exchanges now, for example a well-known exchange as KuCoin is also scam (https://bit.ly/2N6I0AD). Bro, be careful and think before trust Smiley

Are you sure that all these exchanges are crooks ?? can you justify your words ?? Personally, I traded on these exchanges and I can say that everything is fine with them !!

Bitmart asks for KYC to withdraw anything.
1730  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: October 05, 2018, 04:35:33 PM

Except that nobody has proven that BB existed. But if they somehow do, all that they will be proving is that BB is God, and that it was God that created everything.

Back to religion again.

Cool

Did you see the CMB on your TV?

BTW, if science finds out that God/alien civilization created our universe, maybe we'll be able to figure out how to communicate with it, and we'll learn more about it.

I for one would have so many questions...

I don't have or own a TV.
I don't know what CMB you are referring to.

Science already found that God created the universe. How? By finding out how complex the universe is in every way. Whatever created the universe is God, just to be able to create such complexity. See the Scientific proof that God exists? thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.0.

Cool

''By finding out how complex the universe is in every way. '' When was this quantified? Is there a calculation of how complex the universe is? Can you tell us how complex the universe is then? From a scale of 0-100?
1731  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: October 05, 2018, 04:33:21 PM

What you say is quite correct in the way you say it. But that is not what most people think of when they hear the word evolution. And that is not what we are talking about in this thread. Here, we are talking ETE.

Essentially, the foundational, universal, scientific operation in everything we know about in the universe is cause and effect (C&E). C&E means that there are no random mutations, because everything has been caused to act exactly as it has, according to the laws of physics, through C&E. Without random mutations, ETE loses one of its major, foundational premises.

The funny thing about this is, all scientists know about C&E. Not only do they know about it, they focus on it just to do scientific investigation. How do they do this?
1. They observe something in nature;
2. They realize that it is the effect of whatever cause(s) made it to exist the way it does;
3. They look for the cause(s);
4. Then they look for the cause(s) of the cause(s).

In other words, the greater the scientist, the more he looks for and uses C&E.

ETE scientists are different. They use C&E to find how ETE exists. But right in their major theory, they talk about random mutations, when they foundationally know there isn't any random, because C&E penetrates everything that has been found in science. Since they have been using C&E to discover all about evolution, yet they try to include the random mutations idea, which contradicts the C&E they are using, they contradict themselves.

There might be a few mentally slower evolution scientists who accidentally overlooked how C&E plays into everything in the universe. But mostly they simply ignore their C&E understanding, that tugs at their mentality in every evolution investigation and statement that they make, trying to force itself into their awareness.

Evolution is a hoax. And evolution scientists are the ones who make it to be a hoax.

Cool

Scientists look at the data and draw conclusions from that.  I am not sure you really understand what scientists do.

BTW, there is an overwhelming amount of data to validate the theory of evolution of life on this planet.

Did you entirely miss what I said above? I said the same thing as you. I used the cause-and-effect example.

C&E is the foundational (maybe only) method that scientists use in scientific investigation. So, why do they ignore its significance with random, and random mutations in evolution? Isn't it because maintaining the evolution hoax is keeping their job alive?

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

''C&E is the foundational'' No is not, cause and effect is a philosophical idea, not scientific. Even if everything has a cause, we don't know what started all the causes so you can't call it programming, meaning that evolution can exist.
1732  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ Bitvest.io - Plinko Sig. Campaign ★☆★ (Member-Hero Accepted) on: October 05, 2018, 04:08:56 PM
Lightlord please monitor Bitvest from time to time.

Lutpin had time to advertise his thing but can't count a few posts in weeks, people gave lightlord negative trust, at this point this guy should get it too.
1733  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: October 05, 2018, 11:05:57 AM
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Compared 261 unvaccinated children with  405 partially or fully vaccinated children
What outcome are you expecting from this comparison?
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666 homeschooled six to 12-year-olds from four American states
Yeah. I really believe you can generalize something from such a diverse and huge population. (sarcasm)
A thing to remember is there are really serious and life threatening diseases that can be prevented by vaccination, like, diptheria, pertussis, tetanus. While the side effects mentioned are multi-factorial, I guess you can't blame solely on vaccine. Our ancestors have lived and grown up healthy receiving these vaccinations you know. For me, I don't believe in these anti vaccination agenda.

As I said, all drugs have side effects, it's what it is. Unfortunately we can't make better drugs right now. However you would still take anything your doctor prescribes you, especially if you were going to die anyways. Like if I have a deadly disease I would take any drug, who cares about side effects if I'm going to die. That's reality. I think badecker wants a perfect and magic world where everything works perfectly. If it doesn't, it must be the government screwing with us.
1734  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ Bitvest.io - Plinko Sig. Campaign ★☆★ (Member-Hero Accepted) on: October 05, 2018, 10:57:23 AM
Still no update? Please let us know what is happening. Some other campaigns that is Managing by Lutpin get paid, how about Bitvest? Thanks.
It has definitely been a while since the wallet has been refilled. Now it's time for Lutpin to take action. I hope it would be sooner. Probably he is just really busy.

stop saying that, it makes no sense and you don't have to lick his ass. It's his job, being busy isn't an option.
It's true that it's his job and I'm not licking his ass, I'm just understanding the probability of his situation, might not be good but I just hope that he does it soon.

LOL. Grin Grin Grin
Stop blaming each other. What we can do now is just waiting for payment. I hope the payment can be faster to distribute.

And nothing yet, I don't care too much about the payment but it would be nice to get it, I'm going on a trip and it would be a good bonus but Lutpin is trolling us hard, he had time to post his own shit but can't count the posts of like 20 members which takes 2 hours.
1735  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: October 04, 2018, 08:23:46 PM

Your idea that there is no scientific proof for God is simply your belief. Since the proof for God is evident in nature, your belief is a religious belief.

Cool

No it's not my ''belief''. A belief cannot be tested, measuring the age of the earth or the universe can be tested with several different methods and they all sync and give accurate results. The flood can be scientifically proven to be false just, the ark, etc etc. Those are not beliefs. You have beliefs. You believe everything that is said in the bible is true although you have no evidence and you certainly have no test to prove god.

Indeed, one would be hard pressed to test your belief that there is no scientific proof for God. If your belief could be tested, you would have changed your belief long ago, to one that scientifically proves that God exists.

As for science proving the Great Flood of Noah's day to be false, just the opposite is true. And regarding the ark, originally the big ships of many present day nations were patterned after the basic ark pattern, because that was simpler than trying to invent something that would float properly.

Much of what is said in the Bible is there to be believed. But some of it has been proven to exist... just to show that the rest of the Bible is factual as well. So faith is built on fact and proof, both in the Bible, as well as the science religion.

Cool

https://www.csicop.org/si/show/twenty-one_reasons_noahs_worldwide_flood_never_happened
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_flood
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8883

Again, scientifically proven to be totally false.
1736  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: October 04, 2018, 08:17:50 PM

Get it right:

Science is religion because it has as much nonsense in it as any other religion. This is evident by the fact that the religions wouldn't exist if they had nonsense in them.

Cool

Scientific theories confirmed by observations or physical evidence are pretty solid. As close to a fact as you can get.

You are probably thinking about scientific theories that have not been confirmed by observations or physical evidence yet and you are calling them nonsense.

Usually these unconfirmed theories are based on a little more than sentences someone wrote in a book.

Religions on the other hand have some wild, supernatural claims, and flat out false information (6000 year old Earth, virgin conception, winged horses and 6 day creation comes to mind)

Then there is Big Bang, of course. Using a bare minimum of mathematical theorems, BB attempts to show how the universe came about from a big explosion. Yet it depends on other theory and ideas to explain how the complexity that we have in the universe could ever come about through an explosion.

Marvel Avengers movies do a better job of explaining the universe than BB.

Cool

What has been proven is that the early universe was much, much smaller, and that the universe is expanding.  The further away from Earth the object is the faster it moves away.  The pulling (Dark Energy) and pushing (Dark Matter and ordinary matter) tug of war is going on everywhere in the universe.  In our backyard, the Dark Matter is winning so we are ok for now.

You want to hear and see the remnant signals of the Big Bang, turn on your TV and switch to an OTA channel with no programming.  

What has not been observed is the actual beginning of the Big Bang.

There are some theories that say that our universe came about from a singularity of a black hole somewhere in another universe.  But they have not been confirmed by evidence.

Except that nobody has proven that BB existed. But if they somehow do, all that they will be proving is that BB is God, and that it was God that created everything.

Back to religion again.

Cool


Yeah, you are mentally challenged. You keep yelling your classic ''Except that nobody has proven that BB existed'' Except we have scientific evidence for it unlike god, yet you believe god exists and you don't believe the big bang happened, your mind doesn't work.
1737  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker? on: October 04, 2018, 06:27:41 PM

The article isn't detailed in every direction. In addition, it would take millions of man-hours to document all the damage that the vaccine does. The fact that it produces any cases of the thing that it is attempting to destroy, shows that there are flaws in it that should cause it to be "taken off the market" and not used... immediately. We don't even know all of the other adverse effects it produces... like more ADHD and autism.

Cool

You linked the article supposedly because it proves vaccines are bad when in fact the article clearly says vaccines got rid of polio, now you are backpedaling.

''The fact that it produces any cases of the thing that it is attempting to destroy, shows that there are flaws'' No that only shows your ignorance. Do you even know how drugs work? Everything has side effects, paracetamol too. All drugs are harmful but the benefits outweighs the risks. I have dermatitis and I have to use creams to get rid of it, guess what the side effects are, more dermatitis. Guess something else, it fucking works, it gets rid of my dermatitis. You really need to research way waaaaaaaaay more dude.

There are 2 options:

1. Use a vaccine that has side effects that can be really bad but you get rid of 99.9% of the disease

2. Don't use vaccines and leave the disease to spread even more and kill millions

You think somehow 1 is worse because vaccines have side effects and are not miracles, perhaps your god shouldn't have allowed polio and other diseases to exist.

Get a grip.

Not at all - backpedaling. The article says two things about the vaccine. It says that it got rid of polio, and it says it caused polio. And it says that it caused polio more than 3 times as much as natural cause did.

So, how do we really know that the vaccine did any good? They had to admit the bad stuff. It was evident. And natural bad stuff was way less. So, what they are saying is that the vaccine was way worse than natural cause, but still supporting the company line (because they have to) that it got rid of polio. It says it right in front of your face, but you still want to ignore it.

The thing that it doesn't say is the other bad things that the vaccine did. We can see from the medicals's own reports that vaccines do bad things, and that they contain "stuff" in them that is dangerous and harmful.

Why don't you start thinking and stop being deceptive, sometime.

Cool

I pray to god to stop it everyday but he doesn't do it, I don't know why T_T PLEASE GOD STOP THESE EVIL PEOPLE!! PRAY WITH ME BADECKER, GOD IS ALL POWERFUL!

I have been vaccinated many times, I'm perfectly healthy, check mate badecker.
1738  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists Hate Religion? on: October 04, 2018, 06:22:31 PM

WHY DO ATHEISTS (like me) HATE RELIGION ?

The answer is simple: Atheists hate religion because religion is at the root of all inflicted injustices still ongoing, since the beginning of time. It is this very virus that has caused countless suffering and annihilation, spreading like a vicious cancer in its wake, infesting homo sapiens left and right into lethargic torpid zombies, feeding upon itself till exuberance of its toxicity has infiltrated and corrupted the very last pinnacles of homo sapientian civilizations.

But a thunderous shot across the bow has been heard in recent times. Religion has finally, after hellish millennia, been stunned, and nail after nail, with victorious force, have steadily been driven down into the coffin of this absolute ominous and abominous pest, with sustainable lasting results. Smiley

There is some [common] sense left in this cancerous environment, a antidote if you will. It is called Atheism. And nowadays Atheists have indeed grown into a formidable force of retribution, to eviscerate this cancerous plague called religion. Long live Atheism!



Are religious people different than non-religious people? Yes and no.

No. They all breathe air. They all drink water. They all eat food. They all think and learn.

Yes. Religious people work diligently at things. Non-religious people don't.

It's in the definition of the word religion. See #6 and other parts of religion in the dictionary:
something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

If an atheist hates religion, he isn't really hating religion. Why not? Hate is a very strong word. Hate is a point or matter of ethics or conscience, just like the dictionary definition says. This means that an atheist doesn't hate religion. If he did, he would stop hating. As it is, he is doing the exact thing that he purportedly is hating... if he hates religion.

If a so-called atheist hates religion, what he really hates is some form of violence, something that happened to him in early life, the fact that some people have more wealth than he does, perhaps an illness that he has, his own messed-up life in general, or any of a multitude of things that go on in life. But the fact that he hates, shows that he has a religion, because hate is tied to something that one believes in and follows devotedly... a revulsion towards something.

To suggest that an atheist hates religion is to suggest that an atheist hates himself. While this may be true in some cases, it generally isn't. More explanation is necessary. The difference lies in organized religion.

For example. There might be many atheists who hate the Jewish religion. The Jewish religion has a place of worship. They have formal scrolls and books of doctrine. They often know each other and practice their religious activities together. But the atheist hate religion doesn't do these things very often... although they are getting together more and more to do something with their hate religion these days. Their meeting place might be a Denny's restaurant conference room. They get to know each other. The actually write up plans how they are going to demonstrate against the Jews, etc.

The atheist hate religion is becoming more formal all the time.

Cool

Get it right:

Religion = believing non sense when it's not scientifically proven to be true or even close to it.

Get it right:

Science is religion because it has as much nonsense in it as any other religion. This is evident by the fact that the religions wouldn't exist if they had nonsense in them.

Cool

''This is evident by the fact that the religions wouldn't exist if they had nonsense in them.'' Again with the logic of a 5 year old, so everything that exists has to make sense, there is nothing that has nonsense and exists right?
1739  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: October 04, 2018, 06:18:16 PM

Let's be honest here, you are not looking for anyone to deconstruct your arguments. Nothing will change your mind because you already made a decision. You convinced yourself that god exists. You are clearly more intelligent than most christians/religious people. You were not convinced just with the bible, you needed more so this ''evidence'' that you found was good enough to trick your brain. Now you think you know god exists, you don't just believe it like the other believers, you have proof, it's not faith.

Same can be said about you. At least there is proof that God exists. Believing proof is a philosophical thing that takes one into the idea if he should even believe that he exists and thinks. This topic doesn't get into that kind of nit-picking depth.

Cool

Same can be said about me on what, I don't believe anything because I feel like it. There is no scientific proof for god, period. I never said it's impossible for some sort of god to exist, in fact I even said that perhaps super advanced aliens created this universe or perhaps there are a lot of universes, etc etc, possibilities are endless, however the god from the bible can be proven to be wrong.

Your idea that there is no scientific proof for God is simply your belief. Since the proof for God is evident in nature, your belief is a religious belief.

Cool

No it's not my ''belief''. A belief cannot be tested, measuring the age of the earth or the universe can be tested with several different methods and they all sync and give accurate results. The flood can be scientifically proven to be false just, the ark, etc etc. Those are not beliefs. You have beliefs. You believe everything that is said in the bible is true although you have no evidence and you certainly have no test to prove god.
1740  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do you believe God exists? on: October 04, 2018, 02:57:18 PM

Let's be honest here, you are not looking for anyone to deconstruct your arguments. Nothing will change your mind because you already made a decision. You convinced yourself that god exists. You are clearly more intelligent than most christians/religious people. You were not convinced just with the bible, you needed more so this ''evidence'' that you found was good enough to trick your brain. Now you think you know god exists, you don't just believe it like the other believers, you have proof, it's not faith.

Same can be said about you. At least there is proof that God exists. Believing proof is a philosophical thing that takes one into the idea if he should even believe that he exists and thinks. This topic doesn't get into that kind of nit-picking depth.

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Same can be said about me on what, I don't believe anything because I feel like it. There is no scientific proof for god, period. I never said it's impossible for some sort of god to exist, in fact I even said that perhaps super advanced aliens created this universe or perhaps there are a lot of universes, etc etc, possibilities are endless, however the god from the bible can be proven to be wrong.
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