Evolution is a hoax

[twthmoses]

https://dissentfromdarwin.org/

Here is possibly the biggest point that shows that evolution theory evolution (ETE) is not possible. It is cause and effect (C&E).

Consider billiards, pool. When a pool player taps the cue ball, the results happen according to how he taps it. If all the forces were to act exactly the same way every time he tapped the cue ball, the ball would move exactly the same way every time.

It's the same with all science. When you perform a scientific experiment the same way every time, you get exactly the same results every time.

Why is this important for evolution? Because every force in the universe was set to act exactly the way it has acted, right from the beginning of the universe. This means that all of nature has been programmed to act exactly as it acts. If some little thing had been started differently at the beginning, then there would be a different result right now.

ETE talks about random mutation. But C&E shows that there is no random. All there is, is, complexity way beyond anything we can begin to observe. That's why we call complex happenings random. It's our weakness of observation. But in reality there is no random.

The point is, whatever set the universe up the way it is, programmed life and everything else to be exactly the way it is. This means that evolution theory is way off point, and that nobody will ever be able to find any ETE. They can't, because there is absolutely no random, of mutation or anything else.

Even the thing that feels like and looks like our free will, is really artificial free will, because it has all been programmed in from the beginning. At least, that's is what science has shown so far. Some day we might find something that doesn't operate by C&E. As things now stand, non-C&E doesn't even make sense in the universe.

There is no case, no experiment, no event, which has ever been conducted 100% the same way in all the history of the universe. No “input” has ever been the same, thus no “output” has ever been the same. All other things being equal, time has always passed, thus input, any input, is never really 100% the same. What you have “proven”, is that C&E can’t really be proven, not that Evolution cannot exist because no pure randomness exist, on account of C&E.

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[Astargath]

https://dissentfromdarwin.org/

Here is possibly the biggest point that shows that evolution theory evolution (ETE) is not possible. It is cause and effect (C&E).

Consider billiards, pool. When a pool player taps the cue ball, the results happen according to how he taps it. If all the forces were to act exactly the same way every time he tapped the cue ball, the ball would move exactly the same way every time.

It's the same with all science. When you perform a scientific experiment the same way every time, you get exactly the same results every time.

Why is this important for evolution? Because every force in the universe was set to act exactly the way it has acted, right from the beginning of the universe. This means that all of nature has been programmed to act exactly as it acts. If some little thing had been started differently at the beginning, then there would be a different result right now.

ETE talks about random mutation. But C&E shows that there is no random. All there is, is, complexity way beyond anything we can begin to observe. That's why we call complex happenings random. It's our weakness of observation. But in reality there is no random.

The point is, whatever set the universe up the way it is, programmed life and everything else to be exactly the way it is. This means that evolution theory is way off point, and that nobody will ever be able to find any ETE. They can't, because there is absolutely no random, of mutation or anything else.

Even the thing that feels like and looks like our free will, is really artificial free will, because it has all been programmed in from the beginning. At least, that's is what science has shown so far. Some day we might find something that doesn't operate by C&E. As things now stand, non-C&E doesn't even make sense in the universe.

There is no case, no experiment, no event, which has ever been conducted 100% the same way in all the history of the universe. No “input” has ever been the same, thus no “output” has ever been the same. All other things being equal, time has always passed, thus input, any input, is never really 100% the same. What you have “proven”, is that C&E can’t really be proven, not that Evolution cannot exist because no pure randomness exist, on account of C&E.

What badecker's peanut brain fails to understand is that what matters here is the first cause of the chain of causes. If the first cause it's the big bang then everything is still random since the big bang process was a random process. He always says ''programming'' but he could never prove god in the other thread.

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big bang

He had nothing, then it made a big bang at his arse, then he had everything.
Let me tell you:
First Law of Thermodynamics:  you can't get something from nothing, if it would be possible then perpetual motion is possible.

[Astargath]

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big bang

He had nothing, then it made a big bang at his arse, then he had everything.
Let me tell you:
First Law of Thermodynamics:  you can't get something from nothing, if it would be possible then perpetual motion is possible.

Yeah I guess those idiot scientists forgot about the first law of thermodynamics when they came up with the big bang theory, are you dumb?

[BADecker]

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big bang

He had nothing, then it made a big bang at his arse, then he had everything.
Let me tell you:
First Law of Thermodynamics:  you can't get something from nothing, if it would be possible then perpetual motion is possible.

Yeah I guess those idiot scientists forgot about the first law of thermodynamics when they came up with the big bang theory, are you dumb?

Perpetual motion is possible. The only reason God doesn't let us have it is that He is trying to show us that everything comes from Him, and that without Him, everything will fade away if it is not instantly destroyed.

Regarding evolution, evolution is a complete hoax.

[BADecker]

https://dissentfromdarwin.org/

Here is possibly the biggest point that shows that evolution theory evolution (ETE) is not possible. It is cause and effect (C&E).

Consider billiards, pool. When a pool player taps the cue ball, the results happen according to how he taps it. If all the forces were to act exactly the same way every time he tapped the cue ball, the ball would move exactly the same way every time.

It's the same with all science. When you perform a scientific experiment the same way every time, you get exactly the same results every time.

Why is this important for evolution? Because every force in the universe was set to act exactly the way it has acted, right from the beginning of the universe. This means that all of nature has been programmed to act exactly as it acts. If some little thing had been started differently at the beginning, then there would be a different result right now.

ETE talks about random mutation. But C&E shows that there is no random. All there is, is, complexity way beyond anything we can begin to observe. That's why we call complex happenings random. It's our weakness of observation. But in reality there is no random.

The point is, whatever set the universe up the way it is, programmed life and everything else to be exactly the way it is. This means that evolution theory is way off point, and that nobody will ever be able to find any ETE. They can't, because there is absolutely no random, of mutation or anything else.

Even the thing that feels like and looks like our free will, is really artificial free will, because it has all been programmed in from the beginning. At least, that's is what science has shown so far. Some day we might find something that doesn't operate by C&E. As things now stand, non-C&E doesn't even make sense in the universe.

There is no case, no experiment, no event, which has ever been conducted 100% the same way in all the history of the universe. No “input” has ever been the same, thus no “output” has ever been the same. All other things being equal, time has always passed, thus input, any input, is never really 100% the same. What you have “proven”, is that C&E can’t really be proven, not that Evolution cannot exist because no pure randomness exist, on account of C&E.

If you want to get down to this nitty-gritty point, then finish it. There are factually so many adaptation/like-begets-like/simple-change, provable happenings, without even one proof of ETE, that evolution is scientifically impossible simply by scientific probability.

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big bang

He had nothing, then it made a big bang at his arse, then he had everything.
Let me tell you:
First Law of Thermodynamics:  you can't get something from nothing, if it would be possible then perpetual motion is possible.

Yeah I guess those idiot scientists forgot about the first law of thermodynamics when they came up with the big bang theory, are you dumb?

Perpetual motion is possible. The only reason God doesn't let us have it is that He is trying to show us that everything comes from Him, and that without Him, everything will fade away if it is not instantly destroyed.

Regarding evolution, evolution is a complete hoax.

The evolution story is mathematically impossible and falls apart with negative (15% of population) and positive blood (85% of mankind) and lots of other things. Similar to tree grafting the creator(s) introduced rhesus factor absents it a a later stage. Evolution must have had a downer kind of day and thought what the heck lets branch of and have Rh-

Perpetual motion i have not seen or have credible evidence of. Lots of claims and i can envision it like in pulsed electromagnets or lots of other stuff. One of the fundamental errors i see time and time again is the conversion to rotation. Losses in wheels are huge. Setting a wheel in motion and waiting for it to come to full stop is no problem. I would not hang around waiting for a pendulum to come to full stop.

[Astargath]

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big bang

He had nothing, then it made a big bang at his arse, then he had everything.
Let me tell you:
First Law of Thermodynamics:  you can't get something from nothing, if it would be possible then perpetual motion is possible.

Yeah I guess those idiot scientists forgot about the first law of thermodynamics when they came up with the big bang theory, are you dumb?

Perpetual motion is possible. The only reason God doesn't let us have it is that He is trying to show us that everything comes from Him, and that without Him, everything will fade away if it is not instantly destroyed.

Regarding evolution, evolution is a complete hoax.

The evolution story is mathematically impossible and falls apart with negative (15% of population) and positive blood (85% of mankind) and lots of other things. Similar to tree grafting the creator(s) introduced rhesus factor absents it a a later stage. Evolution must have had a downer kind of day and thought what the heck lets branch of and have Rh-

Perpetual motion i have not seen or have credible evidence of. Lots of claims and i can envision it like in pulsed electromagnets or lots of other stuff. One of the fundamental errors i see time and time again is the conversion to rotation. Losses in wheels are huge. Setting a wheel in motion and waiting for it to come to full stop is no problem. I would not hang around waiting for a pendulum to come to full stop.

Ok please, stop posting here, go back to the flat earth thread and post your idiotic statements there, no one cares.

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................
big bang

He had nothing, then it made a big bang at his arse, then he had everything.
Let me tell you:
First Law of Thermodynamics:  you can't get something from nothing, if it would be possible then perpetual motion is possible.

Yeah I guess those idiot scientists forgot about the first law of thermodynamics when they came up with the big bang theory, are you dumb?

Perpetual motion is possible. The only reason God doesn't let us have it is that He is trying to show us that everything comes from Him, and that without Him, everything will fade away if it is not instantly destroyed.

Regarding evolution, evolution is a complete hoax.

The evolution story is mathematically impossible and falls apart with negative (15% of population) and positive blood (85% of mankind) and lots of other things. Similar to tree grafting the creator(s) introduced rhesus factor absents it a a later stage. Evolution must have had a downer kind of day and thought what the heck lets branch of and have Rh-

Perpetual motion i have not seen or have credible evidence of. Lots of claims and i can envision it like in pulsed electromagnets or lots of other stuff. One of the fundamental errors i see time and time again is the conversion to rotation. Losses in wheels are huge. Setting a wheel in motion and waiting for it to come to full stop is no problem. I would not hang around waiting for a pendulum to come to full stop.

Ok please, stop posting here, go back to the flat earth thread and post your idiotic statements there, no one cares.

I have moved on from flat earth thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042249.msg46425670#msg46425670

[Astargath]

................
big bang

He had nothing, then it made a big bang at his arse, then he had everything.
Let me tell you:
First Law of Thermodynamics:  you can't get something from nothing, if it would be possible then perpetual motion is possible.

Yeah I guess those idiot scientists forgot about the first law of thermodynamics when they came up with the big bang theory, are you dumb?

Perpetual motion is possible. The only reason God doesn't let us have it is that He is trying to show us that everything comes from Him, and that without Him, everything will fade away if it is not instantly destroyed.

Regarding evolution, evolution is a complete hoax.

The evolution story is mathematically impossible and falls apart with negative (15% of population) and positive blood (85% of mankind) and lots of other things. Similar to tree grafting the creator(s) introduced rhesus factor absents it a a later stage. Evolution must have had a downer kind of day and thought what the heck lets branch of and have Rh-

Perpetual motion i have not seen or have credible evidence of. Lots of claims and i can envision it like in pulsed electromagnets or lots of other stuff. One of the fundamental errors i see time and time again is the conversion to rotation. Losses in wheels are huge. Setting a wheel in motion and waiting for it to come to full stop is no problem. I would not hang around waiting for a pendulum to come to full stop.

Ok please, stop posting here, go back to the flat earth thread and post your idiotic statements there, no one cares.

I have moved on from flat earth thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042249.msg46425670#msg46425670

Well I gotta say, you must have a truly boring life to be such a dedicated troll.

[Moloch]

Well I gotta say, you must have a truly boring life to be such a dedicated troll.

When you feed the trolls, don't be surprised when they come back for more

[BADecker]

Ok please, stop posting here, go back to the flat earth thread and post your idiotic statements there, no one cares.

I have moved on from flat earth thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042249.msg46425670#msg46425670

Well I gotta say, you must have a truly boring life to be such a dedicated troll.

Why not? The whole evolution community are trolls, and most of them don't even realize it.

Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

Ok please, stop posting here, go back to the flat earth thread and post your idiotic statements there, no one cares.

I have moved on from flat earth thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042249.msg46425670#msg46425670

Well I gotta say, you must have a truly boring life to be such a dedicated troll.

Why not? The whole evolution community are trolls, and most of them don't even realize it.

Evolution is a hoax.

Oh look it's the guy who believes cops are worse than ISIS for kicking people that drink out of a park.

[BADecker]

Ok please, stop posting here, go back to the flat earth thread and post your idiotic statements there, no one cares.

I have moved on from flat earth thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5042249.msg46425670#msg46425670

Well I gotta say, you must have a truly boring life to be such a dedicated troll.

Why not? The whole evolution community are trolls, and most of them don't even realize it.

Evolution is a hoax.

Oh look it's the guy who believes cops are worse than ISIS for kicking people that drink out of a park.

Thanks for confirming both, the cops-ISIS thing, and that evolution is a hoax.

[twthmoses]

If you want to get down to this nitty-gritty point, then finish it. There are factually so many adaptation/like-begets-like/simple-change, provable happenings, without even one proof of ETE, that evolution is scientifically impossible simply by scientific probability.

Exactly! There are so many adaptation/like-begets-like/simple-change . . . I call that evolution, changes is evolution! You just like other words for it, but what it is, is evolution.

Absolutly nothing scientifically impossible in Evolution, in fact I rather say it’s scientifically impossible not to change. Hammered in stone, unchangeable, from the beginning till now. Hmm …. Why is knowledge, skills, tattoos not “adapted”….. Why are you not born a blacksmith, I know you can be born with a predisposition to be a blacksmith, but why are you not born with all the knowledge of being a blacksmith, if it’s simple a matter of adaptation? Like you are born with black hair, height, longer legs, o-RH-neg etc. If it’s all a matter of adaptation, why are master skills never adapted? E.g. born nuclear scientists?

[BADecker]

If you want to get down to this nitty-gritty point, then finish it. There are factually so many adaptation/like-begets-like/simple-change, provable happenings, without even one proof of ETE, that evolution is scientifically impossible simply by scientific probability.

Exactly! There are so many adaptation/like-begets-like/simple-change . . . I call that evolution, changes is evolution! You just like other words for it, but what it is, is evolution.

People often use the word evolution to mean change. But most of the time when people see/hear the word evolution, they think of evolution theory evoloution (ETE). ETE is what we have been talking about in this thread. ETE doesn't fit nature and reality. Scientifically, ETE is impossible.

Absolutly nothing scientifically impossible in Evolution, in fact I rather say it’s scientifically impossible not to change. Hammered in stone, unchangeable, from the beginning till now. Hmm …. Why is knowledge, skills, tattoos not “adapted”….. Why are you not born a blacksmith, I know you can be born with a predisposition to be a blacksmith, but why are you not born with all the knowledge of being a blacksmith, if it’s simple a matter of adaptation? Like you are born with black hair, height, longer legs, o-RH-neg etc. If it’s all a matter of adaptation, why are master skills never adapted? E.g. born nuclear scientists?

What you say is quite correct in the way you say it. But that is not what most people think of when they hear the word evolution. And that is not what we are talking about in this thread. Here, we are talking ETE.

Essentially, the foundational, universal, scientific operation in everything we know about in the universe is cause and effect (C&E). C&E means that there are no random mutations, because everything has been caused to act exactly as it has, according to the laws of physics, through C&E. Without random mutations, ETE loses one of its major, foundational premises.

The funny thing about this is, all scientists know about C&E. Not only do they know about it, they focus on it just to do scientific investigation. How do they do this?
1. They observe something in nature;
2. They realize that it is the effect of whatever cause(s) made it to exist the way it does;
3. They look for the cause(s);
4. Then they look for the cause(s) of the cause(s).

In other words, the greater the scientist, the more he looks for and uses C&E.

ETE scientists are different. They use C&E to find how ETE exists. But right in their major theory, they talk about random mutations, when they foundationally know there isn't any random, because C&E penetrates everything that has been found in science. Since they have been using C&E to discover all about evolution, yet they try to include the random mutations idea, which contradicts the C&E they are using, they contradict themselves.

There might be a few mentally slower evolution scientists who accidentally overlooked how C&E plays into everything in the universe. But mostly they simply ignore their C&E understanding, that tugs at their mentality in every evolution investigation and statement that they make, trying to force itself into their awareness.

Evolution is a hoax. And evolution scientists are the ones who make it to be a hoax.

[BADecker]

What you say is quite correct in the way you say it. But that is not what most people think of when they hear the word evolution. And that is not what we are talking about in this thread. Here, we are talking ETE.

Essentially, the foundational, universal, scientific operation in everything we know about in the universe is cause and effect (C&E). C&E means that there are no random mutations, because everything has been caused to act exactly as it has, according to the laws of physics, through C&E. Without random mutations, ETE loses one of its major, foundational premises.

The funny thing about this is, all scientists know about C&E. Not only do they know about it, they focus on it just to do scientific investigation. How do they do this?
1. They observe something in nature;
2. They realize that it is the effect of whatever cause(s) made it to exist the way it does;
3. They look for the cause(s);
4. Then they look for the cause(s) of the cause(s).

In other words, the greater the scientist, the more he looks for and uses C&E.

ETE scientists are different. They use C&E to find how ETE exists. But right in their major theory, they talk about random mutations, when they foundationally know there isn't any random, because C&E penetrates everything that has been found in science. Since they have been using C&E to discover all about evolution, yet they try to include the random mutations idea, which contradicts the C&E they are using, they contradict themselves.

There might be a few mentally slower evolution scientists who accidentally overlooked how C&E plays into everything in the universe. But mostly they simply ignore their C&E understanding, that tugs at their mentality in every evolution investigation and statement that they make, trying to force itself into their awareness.

Evolution is a hoax. And evolution scientists are the ones who make it to be a hoax.

Scientists look at the data and draw conclusions from that.  I am not sure you really understand what scientists do.

BTW, there is an overwhelming amount of data to validate the theory of evolution of life on this planet.

Did you entirely miss what I said above? I said the same thing as you. I used the cause-and-effect example.

C&E is the foundational (maybe only) method that scientists use in scientific investigation. So, why do they ignore its significance with random, and random mutations in evolution? Isn't it because maintaining the evolution hoax is keeping their job alive?

Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

What you say is quite correct in the way you say it. But that is not what most people think of when they hear the word evolution. And that is not what we are talking about in this thread. Here, we are talking ETE.

Essentially, the foundational, universal, scientific operation in everything we know about in the universe is cause and effect (C&E). C&E means that there are no random mutations, because everything has been caused to act exactly as it has, according to the laws of physics, through C&E. Without random mutations, ETE loses one of its major, foundational premises.

The funny thing about this is, all scientists know about C&E. Not only do they know about it, they focus on it just to do scientific investigation. How do they do this?
1. They observe something in nature;
2. They realize that it is the effect of whatever cause(s) made it to exist the way it does;
3. They look for the cause(s);
4. Then they look for the cause(s) of the cause(s).

In other words, the greater the scientist, the more he looks for and uses C&E.

ETE scientists are different. They use C&E to find how ETE exists. But right in their major theory, they talk about random mutations, when they foundationally know there isn't any random, because C&E penetrates everything that has been found in science. Since they have been using C&E to discover all about evolution, yet they try to include the random mutations idea, which contradicts the C&E they are using, they contradict themselves.

There might be a few mentally slower evolution scientists who accidentally overlooked how C&E plays into everything in the universe. But mostly they simply ignore their C&E understanding, that tugs at their mentality in every evolution investigation and statement that they make, trying to force itself into their awareness.

Evolution is a hoax. And evolution scientists are the ones who make it to be a hoax.

Scientists look at the data and draw conclusions from that.  I am not sure you really understand what scientists do.

BTW, there is an overwhelming amount of data to validate the theory of evolution of life on this planet.

Did you entirely miss what I said above? I said the same thing as you. I used the cause-and-effect example.

C&E is the foundational (maybe only) method that scientists use in scientific investigation. So, why do they ignore its significance with random, and random mutations in evolution? Isn't it because maintaining the evolution hoax is keeping their job alive?

Evolution is a hoax.

''C&E is the foundational'' No is not, cause and effect is a philosophical idea, not scientific. Even if everything has a cause, we don't know what started all the causes so you can't call it programming, meaning that evolution can exist.

[BADecker]

What you say is quite correct in the way you say it. But that is not what most people think of when they hear the word evolution. And that is not what we are talking about in this thread. Here, we are talking ETE.

Essentially, the foundational, universal, scientific operation in everything we know about in the universe is cause and effect (C&E). C&E means that there are no random mutations, because everything has been caused to act exactly as it has, according to the laws of physics, through C&E. Without random mutations, ETE loses one of its major, foundational premises.

The funny thing about this is, all scientists know about C&E. Not only do they know about it, they focus on it just to do scientific investigation. How do they do this?
1. They observe something in nature;
2. They realize that it is the effect of whatever cause(s) made it to exist the way it does;
3. They look for the cause(s);
4. Then they look for the cause(s) of the cause(s).

In other words, the greater the scientist, the more he looks for and uses C&E.

ETE scientists are different. They use C&E to find how ETE exists. But right in their major theory, they talk about random mutations, when they foundationally know there isn't any random, because C&E penetrates everything that has been found in science. Since they have been using C&E to discover all about evolution, yet they try to include the random mutations idea, which contradicts the C&E they are using, they contradict themselves.

There might be a few mentally slower evolution scientists who accidentally overlooked how C&E plays into everything in the universe. But mostly they simply ignore their C&E understanding, that tugs at their mentality in every evolution investigation and statement that they make, trying to force itself into their awareness.

Evolution is a hoax. And evolution scientists are the ones who make it to be a hoax.

Scientists look at the data and draw conclusions from that.  I am not sure you really understand what scientists do.

BTW, there is an overwhelming amount of data to validate the theory of evolution of life on this planet.

Did you entirely miss what I said above? I said the same thing as you. I used the cause-and-effect example.

C&E is the foundational (maybe only) method that scientists use in scientific investigation. So, why do they ignore its significance with random, and random mutations in evolution? Isn't it because maintaining the evolution hoax is keeping their job alive?

Evolution is a hoax.

''C&E is the foundational'' No is not, cause and effect is a philosophical idea, not scientific. Even if everything has a cause, we don't know what started all the causes so you can't call it programming, meaning that evolution can exist.

C&E is foundational for science, because it is the "thing" that scientists use in all their scientific investigation. Without C&E usage, there would be no scientific investigation... at least not as we know it.

Why does knowing what started C&E have anything to do with programming? C&E still acts as complex programming, no matter Who or What Programmer started it.

Since there is no real evidence for anything that is truly random, yet countless evidence and proof for countless C&E operations, evolution in ETE form can't exist.

Even if there was something that was random, there is no proof for it. This means that there is no proof for evolution. Even if evolution were at best a guess... or as you indicate, a possibility... being possible doesn't mean that it exists. Stating that evolution exists, when evolution is not known to exist, is where the problem lies.

Evolution is a hoax.

[BADecker]

So these people are a hoax as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GlNQzjii1c

or a gift from God?

What? You didn't watch the video? It said that these people have genetic problem, probably from in-breeding.

The fact that they are alive is a gift of God. They don't have the opportunity that you do to believe the Bible and be saved. This means that if they aren't saved, their punishment in Hell will be less than yours.

No proof for evolution in the video or your post. The fact that you would try to use some genetically "crippled" people from Turkey to prove evolution, shows how frantic you are to find some little proof for your evolution religion. Doing it this way, only serves to strengthen the fact that...

Evolution is a hoax.