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August 13, 2014, 02:27:51 PM
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101 Proofs For God

A growing list of common sense Proofs for God.

Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam

 Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer.

In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution.

The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. .....
Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html

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August 13, 2014, 02:44:00 PM
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This is another one, very good example, from the same site:
#35 Natural Selection
The concept of “Natural Selection”, sometimes used synonymous with “Survival of the Fittest”, is often touted as the magic process that when added to mutation will result in advancing steps of higher and higher species and the success of evolution.[1] But I encourage you to read up on what Natural Selection is all about and see that it will NOT lead to evolution. Check out the examples that are given, and see for yourself what a fanciful argument this is for evolution of molecules to man. Actually you can't even start with molecules because Natural Selection ONLY works on a species once it can reproduce.

What they actually mean by "natural selection" is what we believers in God totally accept and we call it adaption to the environment. It’s a wonderful God-given quality in Nature that creatures have that allows them to better survive. But it is never a process that will give you a new species.

Full story you can read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2013/05/35-natural-selection.html

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August 13, 2014, 04:27:48 PM
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The usual garbage full of fallacies and misinformation...

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August 13, 2014, 04:42:38 PM
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The usual garbage full of fallacies and misinformation...

and this fallacies and misinformation are.....?
I will be interesting to hear which facts in this articles are false and why.
Otherwise, I will have to confess that this articles really made impact on me.

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August 13, 2014, 04:55:09 PM
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Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam lived thousands of years apart, they were not a couple.

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The concept of “Natural Selection”, sometimes used synonymous with
"Survival of the Fittest”, is often touted as the magic process that when added to mutation will result in advancing steps of higher and higher species and the success of evolution.

This is completely wrong, there are several "forces" operating as natural selectors, not only "survival of the fittest", in many species sexual selection by the females dictates the future of the specie.

In Evolution there's no "higher and higher species."

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But it is never a process that will give you a new species.

This is pretty big claim and proof of this will give Nobel prizes, a place in History and a ton of money.

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August 13, 2014, 04:57:31 PM
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Mitochondrial DNA evolution seems more complex than the OP article assumes:

http://www.trueorigin.org/mitochondrialeve01.asp
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And now we know that these are more than small “fractional” amounts of mtDNA coming from fathers.  The August 2002 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine contained the results of one study, which concluded:

    Mammalian mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is thought to be strictly maternally inherited….  Very small amounts of paternally inherited mtDNA have been detected by the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) in mice after several generations of interspecific backcrosses….  We report the case of a 28-year-old man with mitochondrial myopathy due to a novel 2-bp mtDNA deletion….  We determined that the mtDNA harboring the mutation was paternal in origin and accounted for 90 percent of the patient’s muscle mtDNA (Schwartz and Vissing, 2002, 347:576, emphasis added).

Ninety percent!  And all this time, evolutionists have been selectively shaping our family tree using what was alleged to be only maternal mtDNA!

The beauty of nature and the universe is enough for me to not crave a "god", I mean think how wonderful it is that we are brim full of symbiants (mitochondria) that are tiny life forms in their own right. Really we ought to pray to them, without them we would have no cellular energy created. Those little critters manufacture our axiomatic "fuel" ATP, EVERYTHING in us runs on it.

Or if you want something bigger to pray to then we have SOL, our life enabling star.

Maybe you want bigger, then our galaxy centre might have something special in it for you.
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August 13, 2014, 05:12:46 PM
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August 13, 2014, 05:13:38 PM
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I really doubt there is any scientific proof to describe god existence.
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August 13, 2014, 05:17:55 PM
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I really doubt there is any scientific proof to describe god existence.

Who need proofs about unicorn or flying spaghetti monster?

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August 13, 2014, 05:40:35 PM
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I really doubt there is any scientific proof to describe god existence.

Who need proofs about unicorn or flying spaghetti monster?

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August 13, 2014, 05:52:25 PM
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I really doubt there is any scientific proof to describe god existence.

Who need proofs about unicorn or flying spaghetti monster?

So true.
That's why its called a religion. That's why there are many religions. That's why there was mythology.
It's just a matter of believing, not proof-concept of existence.

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August 13, 2014, 06:08:41 PM
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God is actually a name for aliens, we have missinterpreted it all these years

You can see every religion says the gods came from the stars, even the bible Smiley

And my hypotesis is that they came, they saw a smart species [apes] and they implemented a missing gene in them to make them evolve, to make us

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August 13, 2014, 06:20:12 PM
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You can't find scientific proof for god, because the hypothesis, god exists, is not falsifiable, neither is the hypothesis, god doesn't exist.
Philosophical proofs with word games are not scientific proof.
Falsifiability is a core tenet of the scientific method.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability

Science is quite literally the wrong tool, but since science is the only tool we have for determining facts in the physical world, we are out of luck. Deductive logic can only determine truths that are self congruent, like mathematical truths. Science uses inference not deduction. You can not deduce god from first principals, neither is there sufficient, if any, evidence to infer god.

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August 13, 2014, 06:22:34 PM
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If he had scientific proof then why did the author not write a scientific paper? He could have subjected his theory to the same peer review that has led to other scientific breakthroughs. Instead he published it in his blog. Why? Because you must be scientifically illiterate to not see the problems with these counter-theories. Not that life is well understood. There are still some huge questions like, "where did life come from"?
Today all modern biology is based on the theory of evolution. That includes modern medicine, our understanding of DNA, etc. It has been over 150 years since Darwin's theory. In that time there has not been any finding that contradicts it. You will find that the answers to your examples are known and understood to not contradict evolution.  

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August 13, 2014, 07:08:33 PM
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OK guys you really made your points very well.
Thank you.
Still, I tend to agree with this blog author that either there is not much proofs for Darwin's theory as well.
It seems that Darwin's theory is the most logic but still the are some ''holes'' and unproven facts in this theory, isn't it?

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August 13, 2014, 07:11:59 PM
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OK guys you really made your points very well.
Thank you.
Still, I tend to agree with this blog author that either there is not much proofs for Darwin's theory as well.
It seems that Darwin's theory is the most logic but still the are some ''holes'' and unproven facts in this theory, isn't it?

that's why it's called a theory

we can't prove it yet
but it's the most plausible option

btw this is for politcs&society

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August 13, 2014, 07:18:01 PM
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OK guys you really made your points very well.
Thank you.
Still, I tend to agree with this blog author that either there is not much proofs for Darwin's theory as well.
It seems that Darwin's theory is the most logic but still the are some ''holes'' and unproven facts in this theory, isn't it?

that's why it's called a theory

we can't prove it yet
but it's the most plausible option

btw this is for politcs&society

A scientific theory is vastly different from the common concept of theory. A scientific theory is more like a large collection of facts with the most reasonable explanation. Gravity is a theory, this differs from a natural law, which doesn't have an explanation and is more a statement of observation. Newtons law of universal gravitation doesn't explain gravity, the theory of general relativity does.

Nothing in science can be proved 100%, only inferred, this is how it differs from logical proofs.

There is ample evidence for evolution, the op simple is uninformed on the subject, particularly in genetics. A very simple example is to investigate the fins on a whale, notice they have a primitive skeletal hand, why would a whale need a hand. Evidence points that they were once land animals, genetics verifies this relationship. They evolved from a primitive hoofed wolf like creature.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans

https://www.google.ca/search?q=whale+skeleton+fin&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=FbvrU6eSEqnOiwKm04GQAw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=597

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August 13, 2014, 07:22:59 PM
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it can be, because god is like santa claus, only people that want to believe in something believe about it



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August 13, 2014, 07:28:07 PM
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If bible, koran, torah and other holy scriptures are wrong this will not prove that there is no God. If there is a God there is no way we can prove his existence if he don't want to. Our civilization is still very young, still many things we cannot explained.
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August 13, 2014, 07:46:43 PM
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If bible, koran, torah and other holy scriptures are wrong this will not prove that there is no God. If there is a God there is no way we can prove his existence if he don't want to. Our civilization is still very young, still many things we cannot explained.

Sure, there is no way to prove god doesn't exist; but if we can continually make progress in our quest for knowledge without such a concept, why bother with it?

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