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1741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: March 01, 2017, 02:37:12 PM
Am still coming back to gambling in the first place i want to gamble to make a big profit. I almost lose my money and i want them back so i still coming back for playing. But i think i have no luck i always lose when the time i decided to played a game i always lose. 

Mostly, gamblers come back to gambling with the same reason, to win big profit especially when they experienced such big wins in a particular gambling site or casino. And the good thing maybe, is that the gambler sometimes realizes that coming back to gambling again is a bad choice, though some are still lucky to win.
yeah they are curious to feel the same thing when they have experienced a huge winning , but they didn't realize that in gambling there is nothing sure , everything basically are random. you can't expect to repeat the previous winning as it would lead you to an addiction to keep trying. the same thing applied to when you lost , you would forced to keep chasing the lost as you can't accept it.
1742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How should a good gambling site be? on: March 01, 2017, 02:15:15 PM
I think the reputation for always keep paying is the most important, have a good customer support also is important, there are so many gambling sites now that keep on pop out, but most of them offered the same game type, it will be nice if there will be a new game that is unique, so we don't get bored and I believe there are still so many games that can be implemented for gambling sites
reputation aren't a feature i guess  Huh , if you say so then you have to put a provably fair in the first place as there a lot of gambling sites paying but didn't proven fair , for example 999dice they are indeed paying people for over 3 years but they running a shady operation when one of our trusted member caught they aren't fair the rolls could be manipulated.
1743  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: March 01, 2017, 02:00:08 PM
It depends on the amount of your stake. If you stake in small bits I think you should be fine and relaxed after a loss but greed can make one iced stake his/her bankroll and that makes you lose self control in your bid to regain your list money back.

Yes it depends on the amount of you are willing to gamble and if you are going to gamble with big amount. Because if there are bigger amount involved  you should control yourself or else you are going to end up losing more if you are not going to control your own emotion which can lead into rage betting.
the bigger amount you want to risk in gambling the bigger challenge for you to control your emotion, it has happened to me several time when i decide to gamble with the whole amount i have earned during the month , and guess what? when i have make it double , my mind tell me to keep playing till you feel completely satisfy which it's actually never happened and just end my session with a huge lost.
1744  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you beat the house edge on: March 01, 2017, 09:20:30 AM
Changing odds gives the house even more edge over your chances of winning, only way is to play 50-50 then there is no house edge.
And if you trying to just play for fun knowing that you'll lose at the end of the run then you're an idiot, gambling is only fun when you let your chance to decide(50-50).
The house and the odds at which you are playing are entirely different. It has nothing to do with the rolls but house edge will make a difference at any given point of time. But do not assume that you are playing without a house edge if you are rolling with 50 /50 ,that is not the case .The only site that provides a house edge of 0% during happy hours is crypto games .
As i saw on the past regarding on cryptogames 0% house edge which is really great but doesnt matter at all in longer runs even on 50-50% chance. Winning isnt a guarantee and speaking of house edge we can beat them if we are lucky.
i do not think that there will be every 0% house edge. i think the only way to make money and run a casino is to get some house edge, i think in some cases we can beat house edge like in sports games we can beat a hose edge.
if you calculate by yourself ( actually there a lot of calculation have been made out there ) about how much sportsbetting having house edge , it's has much bigger than casino house edge which average 1% or so. where sportsbetting have house edge more than that. even with analysisi or something it's really hard to beat them in the long run.
1745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: March 01, 2017, 08:55:06 AM
i had my profits when ever i gambled in dice or in sports betting but to be rich you really need to win a lottery that big and i am not in a position or lucky enough to win a lottery or i am not aware of any sites that has a huge jackpot that i could win randomly.
How can you be or not be in position to win lottery or say you are not lucky enough? You never know..Well, i can only tell fortunejack has really nice jackpots on slots, i see in one game jackpot is 3800BTC.
Have you heard about winning a jackpot of 3800 bitcoin in fortune jack and hope the site is running for a longer time and there might be atleast a couple of winners by now and if you are sure that they had a winner then i bet i will spend an year in that site trying to win one without any hesitation.

Though fortunejack has a winning jackpot worth 3,800 bitcoins but do you know guys if someone did already won that amount? I'm not updated with gamblers who manage to win bigger amounts or jackpots in casino. And I guess that's the only way to become rich in gambling other than that there's no other way.
i guess noone claimed yet that thousands bitcoin jackpot, but if you take a look to fortunejack thread last year edition someone have won hundreds bitcoin through fortuneslots jackpot game , and the jackpot getting bigger time to time , as the site keep growing too . makes sure you give a shot and try your luck there . nothing impossible to become rich , it's just the matter of how luck you are.
1746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: March 01, 2017, 08:39:46 AM
Gambling is the best tool to get lots of money in the shortest amount of time with the least skill required. In fact, nowadays the games are designed in such a way that it does not requires you to understand anything and you just move with the flow. The machine or the dealer say you win, you win and they say you lose, you lose your money. And that is why so many people get addicted cause the entry level is not high.

With that said, kids and young people are the usual victim of that, as they just need few dollars and they are good to go and gamble, and it become much easier because of bitcoin, not even their parents knowing what they are doing in their room, they could bet while doing their assignments...

With their young minds, they are very much prone to addiction as their thinking is not yet like that of an adult...  Smiley

I feel to this and a victim  Grin. LOL. Actually, young kids didn't think of risk at the beginning. They just want to bet and win. Also, environment also has a factor in it and of course family. If you are brought up in a family which gambles, most likely you will gamble at a young age.
those people who gamble at first time and mostly an under age players will never accept the fact that they are lost , they will do everything to make their money back , include to chasing the lost . in the end they didn't realize that they are too enjoy to play and get addicted , this shows how important to gamble responsibly , you might won't get addicted.

You are correct mate. When they are just aware of it, hopefully very soon, that they are more prone to losing than winning in gambling and that there is no easy way to win all the time, then they will give themeselves a chance of not getting addicted to it.
gambling completely shouldn't considered as a way to make profit in the long run like a regular job , it would just lead you into a heavy lost in the end. it's proven already that gambling in the long run wouldn't profitable due the negative EV , it might works for few people but not for most people who just get addicted and broke.
1747  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: February 26, 2017, 11:51:36 PM
It can not be profitable in the long term not matter what you bet on.
The house always win in the long run, you won't find yourself betting for years and still counting up profits, you can end up not losing alot but you will still be in a minus at the end.

yeah gambling always about -EV , even you have prepared well how you manage the bankroll to keep your status in profit , but still hard to keep it in the long run , there always a time when you have to suffering lost , and it's happened often more than you experience a winning. sometimes it's makes you frustated due can't get the best achievement in the end , that's the fact about gambling , hard to make it profitable for long time.
1748  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: February 26, 2017, 11:35:46 PM
Who says that giving up on gambling is really easy? NO one but if you feel that you are addicted enough lose too much you need to quit then think of your family is the best solution of quiting it will comes into your mind the "HOW IF" the money you play you gave it to them you help them and make them happier

Actually, sometimes the reason of why a family member gambles, is their family. That means they might have a problem too with dealing with their family or sometimes they do it for their living.

The best thing that I could think that we should do when we want to quit gambling is to look for something else where we can earn money. It would make us busy and it would give us money, so we don't have rason to gamble anymore. Fun isn't really the cause why we are addicted to gambling, it is just the "reason" we said.  Smiley

When we intend to quit from gambling habit it'll be very hard but I do believe that at the end something will force us to give up from this activities.
I tried to quit gambling but it always attract me when im watching people who make profits i don't really know why gambling attracts me always to play with my money. I also think of my money but i can afford to lose them but i want to win always trying up my luck.
that's true we always show off our winning and it's actually make people jealous and thinking they can do it too and then when actually you have a plan to stop gambling and then place a bet immediately for the sake of fun. slowly but sure you back to an addiction , keep trying but nothing you get there , and the cycle of gambling is real at this point.
1749  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2016/17 on: February 26, 2017, 09:46:38 PM
Some very good games today, but quite hard to bet as well in my opinion. I can't really stay away from them though, so I will gor for Atletico vs Barcelona, and Villarreal vs Real Madrid. I think Real can't really lose this one, or they will start destroying their important lead. It will be a very hard game for both, since although Villarreal is not doing that well lately, when playing at home, Real doesn't have a great current form when playing away as well. I will still pick them as the winner for this game, since it's very important for them, and they can't just have two losses in a row.
As for Atletico vs Barcelona, I will just go for both teams to score.

Atletico Madrid v Barcelona
Both teams to Score? Yes @ 1.66

Villarreal v Real Madrid
Real Madrid @ 1.64
i got a little bit better odds in this livebetting https://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1MLbV9konZhmbzRNHcV7VDa1Tc8ygxZqNF , place real madrid moneyline in the last 10 minutes and then morata scored 3 minutes after i put my bet Wink , i know they have a strong mentality as a champion candidate. FT villareal 2-3 real madrid , what a match!
1750  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about bonuses on btc casino ? on: February 26, 2017, 09:26:18 PM
i always care about bonuses at bitcoin casino because the bonus is the way for me to get some free bitcoin
although its also have requirement, but if the bonus rules so difficult and it almost can't reached i will leave it
and especially from not trusted site i will forget about that bonus
so what kind of bonus do you mean and want actually? most casino offers 200% deposit bonus or so , and it's indeed has a difficult terms before you can cash them out. the word of "bonus" itself form just another promotion words , to attract people to keep playing with low percentage for them to make profit.
1751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are dice sites reliable? on: February 26, 2017, 08:45:49 PM
Generally all the big dice sites are reliable in the meaning of provably fair. If it isnt, then you should find one which is and play on that. One another meaning of reliable could be about being able to keep some BTC on the site. I would not advice anyone to keep BTC on any 3rd party site but if you have to play dice, keep some small amount on the dice site and the major amount in you personal wallet. If you win big, withdraw the excess amount  instantly.
as long as they can provide a bankroll ownership to pay people winning i think they could be considered as reliable , a plus value when they interact actively in this forum , it gives a little bit feeling so secure , am i right? if you play with small amount i think there's no harm to keep your money there , otherwise if you are a high roller you might would prefer always get your money in and out.
1752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: February 24, 2017, 01:16:26 PM
If I win a large sum of money from gambling on accident or something then I would just invest it in something that will appreciate in value over time.
That's a good choice. It's always very difficult to resist the temptation to bet everything once again and potentially double it, because maybe you're in a lucky streak, maybe it's your day.
You get a large amount of money, that opens a vision of you as a millionaire, sunbathing on a yacht, and it all seems to be within your grasp. Don't get caught in it, withdraw and don't be greedy.
always collect everything that you have won previously in gambling , as based on my experience keeping them in the account would just busted it all sooner or later. unless if you want to allocate it to invest them all somewhere then it would be great to make your money keep growing .
1753  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Is Bitcoin Trading and Why It's risky? on: February 24, 2017, 01:05:30 PM
Bitcoin trading is exchanging your bitcoin to any form of fiat like usd, jpy, etc. and vice versa. It is risky because bitcoin's price is very volatile. It can rise or drop for more than 1$ in just a single day. If you bought in a price that is too high it will be difficult for you to sell it at even in a higher price, it can take some months to sell it. A single negative news can affect the price of bitcoin which makes it to do bitcoin trading.
i think not only bitcoin trading but all types of trading are risky and there are always chance of losing money in trading. if we invest bitcoin in alt coins for making money it is called bitcoin trading, changing bitcoin in fiat or fiat in to bitcoin is called bitcoin trading.
Well, I guess not only bitcoin trading risk, but, like all forex trading, or trading altcoin also have the same risk. trading is not just selling and buying, but also look for information, and it takes a good skill in that, in order to analyze the rise and the fall in prices will occur. trading risky, because if you're wrong analyze, then the loss will come to you.
Yes any trade has a big risk, the difference is the place. Sometimes there are some places that manipulate prices so it is difficult to make a profit. So it should be able to choose a place that really could be trusted so it can get the full profit. And you're right, trade is not only to sell and buy, but it should be looking for price information and analyze it well, and skill required here.
easy , choose the bigger place to trade and then there low chance only for anyone to manipulate the market , it's happened when there is low volume and there is big player , make the market manipulatable. there is nothing free from risk , it's always there and you have to take it to get money. that's the simple principle to make money through trading.
1754  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Strategy and Lost in GAMBLE on: February 24, 2017, 12:53:33 PM
No strategy just luck and having a good feeling. I just play and sometimes I look at my balance and its higher and then I started with so I keep going and don't look at the balance. After awhile I can then make even bigger bets with the awards and it is easier to recover the original amount. It is hard to know when to stop since you could lose at anytime but streaks are not uncommon just losing because of greed and not stopping is the main issue for me.
It's not really hard if you are gambling with a good strategy, like what you've mentioned, greed will let you do gamble still despite of the fact that you are already winning. It's the way to lose more or probably we would end up losing all our bankroll every time we gamble if we will not learn how to stop. Winning moment in gambling does not happen every time so it's wise to stop sometimes with a profit even how small it is.
there is no techincal strategy that could make you guarantee to always win. but there is a strategy to handle your greedy . first of all you need to think about how hard a lot of people out there make money under the sun and rains. and then you might would feel grateful and stop immediately to play even yeah as you said when have a little profit only.
1755  Economy / Economics / Re: Is trading just educated guessing? on: February 24, 2017, 12:38:39 PM
No man,not educated guessing but of course education in trading is important factor. You need to analyze statistics and etc, there are many things to know if you really want profit and not silly blind trading. Also another important factor is luck which I always day. Statistics and analyzes can sometimes lie you. If you start trading, loss and profit will be your best friend.
it soundslike uncertain isn't it? trading really feel like guessing the market based on uncertain statistics, news etc. all of them can't be really predicted accurately indeed but it's the part of the game. so yeah it's all about guessing . don't expect to keep getting profit as there is no business run smoothly without a lost.
1756  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 24, 2017, 12:24:30 PM
Remember the word fun because if you that is only thing you will receive as a consolation prize for the money you spent.
Getting a consolation reward is the final result of smart way gambling ?
I do not think so because each and every gambler will find this result effortlessly. If we put efforts, we can find smart way of gambling to win the prime prizes. I'm not ready to get satisfied with consolation reward.
since there is a fact that most people would ended up gambling with losing , then you should start consider have fun only while gambling which means the benchmark whether are you smart enough to gamble or not are when you react on whatever the result of your bets. be responsible and don't get greedy.

Well i agree with the first comment here that having fun would be the best consolation a gsmbler can have when gambling. With the way you look atbit, it seems you're gambling with the expectation of winning each and every time. That mindset towards gambling most of the time will make you lose more which will decrease the chances of you having fun. To be smart, i think you just have to be in control and be contenred with the result of your gamblig
yeah that's what i talking about lol , there is no harm to expect a winning everytime you play isn't it? even you gamble for the sake of fun only but still to get additional money from it just a normal thing. the problem in gambling always about how people can't accept their lost , they always have a desire to chase the lost to make it turn to a winning , that was stupid move right? just forget it.
1757  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Daily use of bitcoin? on: February 24, 2017, 12:13:16 PM
i use bitcoin daily but the problem is transaction pending confirmation
hope bitcoin make it faster for confirmation each transaction  Smiley

I know these days the bitcoins tx fee is quite high and we all are facing this problem bad sadly i don't think any solution to be coming lately.
If the bitcoin price keep getting higher then it's worth for it's holders but not for tx fee.

i don't have any transaction fee problem so far , the confirmation also takes tiem not too long . it might the problem on your wallet provider? i used mycelium by the way , if you want just try it out. the current transaction fee are around 0.0001 to 0.0002 normally but it could takes more than that, no big deal for me using 0.0001 / 0.0002 for a lot of transaction i made daily.
1758  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you cashed-out bonuses from casinos? on: February 24, 2017, 12:05:02 PM
The only bonus which i was able to cash out was signup bonus given by duckdice recently. They have high wagering requirement but i have played with low odds of 1.1x so been able to reach it and finally cashed out. Amount was not big only 3000 doge  Grin

See that, at a very low amount of bonuses you get, you risks your whole deposit just to get it. I think the very bonuses can be considered as a form of gambling really. You are actually betting on whether you will get the bonus or not. And similar to regular gambling, we also lose and never be able to get that bonuses.

i am agree with michkima that said bonuses is a form of gambling, no matter how much we place a bet in gambling games, the bonuses is inside of the gambling and i think bonuses is only given if we make a deposit in certain amount, if we deposit below of that amount then we can not receive the bonuses but maybe there are any compensation for us which is not reach the minimal deposit to get bonuses. i think some website make a rule that between betting and the bonus is separate thing and i think the bonuses is something that the sites want to give to the members when they make deposit in certain amount.
the bonus that a lot of casinos offered are actually part of their promotion also a smart way for them to get money from the players. they know they will never get banckrupt with this promotion way through the bonus, they even have know that the result always be in their favor. now it's up to you , want to keep chasing the bonus that actually has very low chance to win ?
1759  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: February 23, 2017, 10:43:46 PM
Experience does not matter in gambling and in fact experience gives even more loss compared to a new gambler in my opinion as you can see that when a gambler is new he/she wins a lot while with time in long term they always loose.

If you talking about game such a dice, that probably happens because he/she (newbie) have more luck.

It's different story if that newbie haven't experience playing game such a poker, sportbetting which the game required skill and experience too.

we need experience before we could be a pro gamblers because with experience, we can learn many thing that we know like if we are in one situations and we already seen this, we can make fast solution so if something bad is happen, we have another way to cover it and if we have loss, our loses its not too much and we can continue the games.
so you think experience help you out to control the situation? how can it affected to the outcome of your bet? no, nothing? of course it's nothing to do with experience when it comes to gambling everything are uncertain, i admit an experience might help a little bit but it's not necessary to have it to get started.
1760  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: February 23, 2017, 10:27:53 PM
Oh god no I HATE THEM!!!

I perfectly understand why you would play dice, blackjack or roulette. I love roulette for example! The thrills it gives me are real!
But slot?
Who the hell can love playing slot??
If you like burning your money just give it to me! Don't play slots xD

There is a house edge of something like 40% on slots! That's completely crazy!!!
It eats your money so fast you don't even have time to see it disappear !!!
you must be never won a single penny in this kind game isn't it? it's really not fun at all if the truth so. i have won a little prize got over 20 times payout in my first spin at bitcoinvideocasino last year , just wow i can't tell my feeling it's just so awesome to have that luck. you might have to take a look to other people's point of view too before make a judgment and then speak up Wink.
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