When batch-one went up for sale I believe WTM said $40/day. It's now 5 weeks later and closer to $30/day. By the time most of batch-one gets tossed in the mail in 3 weeks it could be closer to $25/day? That would put ROI between 3-4 months. Even if batch-two arrived in Sept at around $15/day that would still be about 3x what GPUs pay-out at 300w - so batch-two could ROI in 2018. But that's a complete guess on the daily returns, and is assuming ZEN+ZEC are both still around by the end year to prop up the current Equihash algo. Cross your fingers!  ZEN is doing first fork in July and more coming afterwards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl1ElXMiRfg |
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Not sure if any of you have watched an interview with co-founder of ZEN about the 51% attack. I'm doing some investigating. I've never used Nicehash before. If anyone else has, can you answer a question for me with 100% assurance your answer is correct. If you're not 100% sure and still answer, please let us know you're not 100% sure when you do answer. The reason for my question involves "private" mining. Does Nicehash ask for personal information when one purchases hash from them to mine?If you watched this interview, maybe you'll understand why I'm asking that question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWJTC55tk-sBy the way, ZEN will be doing a number of things to "kill" private/secret mining. First step begins in July. You'll hear that in the video. |
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I'm with you on this one. Also, just some basics for this type of stuff--if it was a legit pic, why not link to the source? Why wouldn't the person be open about it? Why would they not have contacted the company with a complaint, and if so made that public too? For whatever complaints people may have about Bitmain, their support staff are, at the very least, pretty fucking fast to respond to messages, we'd have more information even if it was negative... I went to the twitter account he said the photo came from. It's nowhere to be found in a post on that other twitter account. By the way, that's the same guy we got to delete that video. Also, if one has a close look at the heat sinks in the dusty photo compared to the confirmed photo of an actual Z9 mini I provided, it's quite obvious to me if you look at the TALL heat sinks on the actual Z9 mini compared to the photo of the dusty ASIC in its photo it's NOT a dusty Z9 mini. Note how the Z9 mini heat sinks on the back of the boards are ALL LEVEL. The heat sinks on the back of each board for the dusty photo has SHORTER metal spikes on the outside edges and all the rest of the metal spikes on the interior of each heat sink are level. |
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According to the forum seer of everything all of them.
Does this look like all of them? There are even more Equihash coins than what I mention here in the following quote: No, it's not good... This is looking like X3 all over again.
Bitcoin Private will fork (confirmed by June/July)
Bitcoin Gold will fork (confirmed by June/July)
ZEN will fork (confirmed by June/July)
EXPANSE will fork to PROG PoW (Confirmed by June/July)
ZEC will probably fork (about a 65% chance before September)
Two others will do whatever ZEC will do.
KOMODO will NOT fork (Confirmed)
All Equihash ASIC's will compete on what few Equihash coins not forking. All of that hash condensed into fewer Equihash coins will not be good for Equihash ASIC's of any kind. My opinion... That's why I said earlier that Batch 1 was pretty much your best chance of ROI. Providing you get it relatively soon. Bitmain is currently taking their sweet ass time about getting out Batch 1.
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your post specifically says delete this trolls post lol happy that you ignore me because im just defending my opinion
I'm quite confident MedaR will respect freedom of speech. I knew there was no need to get into details (specific) with MedaR to inform him HOW to respect freedom of speech if posts were to be deleted. Especially, repetitive posts by me and someone else repeating the same thing. MedaR and I are both veterans [He, Air Force and me, Marine Corp]. If you know his credentials, you would know he needs no "specific" instruction regarding how to respect freedom of speech when monitoring a forum. I apparently had to get "SPECIFIC" with you regarding HOW to respect freedom of speech to avoid being labeled a "communist." However, I honestly don't give ANY "merit" or "weight" of this "label" from you, pitt59. I doubt anyone else with an unbiased mind would either. I must correct you I'm not Air Force, but yes I've been in the army (Rober Viglione @finpunk is military officer). Anyway, this is for all: I will tolerate everything while it is on topic and while it is non-offensive for participants and others.. So please stay polite.Also notice that im not moderator here on this forum. Better stay on topic, rules are strict, don't mess with moderators.. My bad, I thought you were "Rob." I thought that's what the letter "R" at the end of your user name stood for. Thank you for your service! |
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If that's the way you feel... Maybe you want to find another coin that's pro-asic where you can fit in. CPU is more equal? Hmmmmmm Let's see... We have AMD and INTEL for CPU's who do not private/secret mine... Is that any different than AMD and NVIDIA with GPU's who do not private/secret mine with large farms like a particular ASIC manufacturer of the Z9? No, it's not. |
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your post specifically says delete this trolls post lol happy that you ignore me because im just defending my opinion
I'm quite confident MedaR will respect freedom of speech. I knew there was no need to get into details (specific) with MedaR to inform him HOW to respect freedom of speech if posts were to be deleted. Especially, repetitive posts by me and someone else repeating the same thing. MedaR and I are both veterans [He, Air Force and me, Marine Corp]. If you know his credentials, you would know he needs no "specific" instruction regarding how to respect freedom of speech when monitoring a forum. I apparently had to get "SPECIFIC" with you regarding HOW to respect freedom of speech to avoid being labeled a "communist." However, I honestly don't give ANY "merit" or "weight" of this "label" from you, pitt59. I doubt anyone else with an unbiased mind would either. |
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lol im not talking about you ignoring me, which you should have, and im not trolling if im logically pointing out my opinion, this is decentralized we are all free to speak out, but you did just tell medar, probably a forum mod to delete my posts its all over the place dude you specifically told him to delete my posts your a dictator and preeching freedom at the same time
You did not read my SECOND edit above in that same quote: here it is: Also, I'm referring to MedaR deleting REPETITIVE POSTS. Not all of them. ONLY posts that constantly repeat the same thing.Who wants to read posts that say the same thing back to back to back? |
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Not reading your post but you can read my previous one:  |
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MedaR,
Not sure if you are self moderating...
Feel free to delete these posts of mine and this other guys posts who is trolling; saying the same thing over and over again with no "support" for what he's saying.
these guy talks about comunism and here he is being a dictator muting my freedom of opinion, he wants to delete my posts fro what? arent you acting like a dictator and talking about decentralization on other hand, your probably just dictating what you want to happen and not really for the sake of decentralization you just showed your true color your just a dictator wanna be And another BITMAIN troll "ignored." They're coming out now to shill, fella's. They're getting pissed because they see their precious Z9 mini to be delivered August/September might be a brick by the time it arrives. Go ahead... It's your reputation... IGNORED... By the way... I'm NOT suppressing your freedom of speech. You can speak all you like. There is NOTHING unethical or immoral about me IGNORING YOU. I have the freedom to IGNORE just as much as you have the freedom to SPEAK.Also, I'm referring to MedaR deleting REPETITIVE POSTS. Not all of them. ONLY posts that constantly repeat the same thing. |
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lol
You're not worth my valuable time. You continue to ignore it was not the pool who attacked but it was the pool who reported to Rob a potential attack was underway. Rob then advised the pools to raise confirmations.IGNORED... |
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MedaR,
Not sure if you are self moderating...
Feel free to delete these posts of mine and this other guys posts who is trolling; saying the same thing over and over again with no "support" for what he's saying.
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nope we have 2 devils right now and its here and is a fact, so the question is who do you deal with first bitmain or the network attacks but you already answered that bitmain is the worst devil right so ya i get it and everyone here gets it that your fine with the network attacks, LOL
You can continue to ignore BITMAIN has "motive" for that 51% attack? Much more so than a pool. You continue to ignore it was not the pool who attacked but it was the pool who reported to Rob a potential attack was underway. Rob then advised the pools to raise confirmations. |
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so your completely fine with zencash being 51% attacked cuase you just did say bitmain is the worst devil compared to the network attacks were getting?? wow dude your gpu aint gonna be mining any coin if the attacker keeps attacking so lets fork away from asics and let 51% attacks happen, are youaware of of what 51% attack is? and lol you say im a new account how about looking when i registered cause ive been here since last year
So, you can continue to ignore BITMAIN has "motive" for that 51% attack? Much more so than a pool. |
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like i said i dont give a shit about the fork i dont have a z9 mini, but that does not change the fact that asics help secure the network, and that doesnt change the fact zencash has been attacked and will be attacked even with an algo change, you even think what those hash on nicehash is gonna be doing, its also a fact its begger than our network hash
It's obvious you don't give a &#%@. You're too busy shilling for Bitmain. Remember, one devil at a time...Suppose it's only a coincidence these 51% attacks occur on coins that:
#1: Declared they will fork away from ASIC's.
#2: All within a short time after CONFIRMING they will fork away from ASIC's.
#3: BITMAIN has a "motive" to implement a 51% attack based on developers of Equihash coins making a declaration they will fork.
#4: The fact that BITMAIN revealed they have a Z9 (not "mini") proves it would be VERY easy to implement a 51% attack. Which would ALSO prove they have mined with them for quite some time.
By you coming on here with your comment as a NEW ACCOUNT only suggests to me you're part of a FALSE FLAG 51% attack. Meaning, BITMAIN implements the 51% attack then sends proxy accounts out on social media to say we need their ASIC's to protect coins from attacks while they were the ones implementing the attacks all along. We're NOT stupid. Tell it to someone who's new to mining and doesn't know any better.
Once these coins are forked, we'll see BITMAIN LIED to Zooko in regards to not private/secret mining AND about not having a larger Equihash rig that's been mining for a LONG time. Hell, it's quite obvious they had the Z9 (not mini) BEFORE announcing their Z9 mini for sale.
How will we see BITMAIN lied? Once everyone notes how much the network hash rate drops. Especially, if ZEC actually forks and we witness their hash rate drop. BITMAIN, currently has their hash rate distributed somewhat equally among BTG, ZEN, BCP and ZEC.
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and your just a clown thinking that we were attacked by asics, its already a fact its from rented hash, do you know of anybody who has an equihash asic selling theyr hash to nicehash or mining rig rental?
your just closed to the idea we have problems bigger than asics or bitmain, you styill have not chosen which devil you will live with because both these devils are here already 1 is bitmain asics thats gonna be arriving in a month or the current situation zencash netowrk is being attacked, so i would assume based on your response that your only hitting bitmain and not nicehash or people selling hash there that your completely fine with the attacker doing 51% attacks on zencash network?
Notice, you said, "WHICH DEVIL..." Let's deal with one devil at a time how about it? The worst devil at the moment is BITMAIN (ASIC'S). PERIOD...Suppose it's only a coincidence these 51% attacks occur on coins that:
#1: Declared they will fork away from ASIC's.
#2: All within a short time after CONFIRMING they will fork away from ASIC's.
#3: BITMAIN has a "motive" to implement a 51% attack based on developers of Equihash coins making a declaration they will fork.
#4: The fact that BITMAIN revealed they have a Z9 (not "mini") proves it would be VERY easy to implement a 51% attack. Which would ALSO prove they have mined with them for quite some time.
By you coming on here with your comment as a NEW ACCOUNT only suggests to me you're part of a FALSE FLAG 51% attack. Meaning, BITMAIN implements the 51% attack then sends proxy accounts out on social media to say we need their ASIC's to protect coins from attacks while they were the ones implementing the attacks all along. We're NOT stupid. Tell it to someone who's new to mining and doesn't know any better.
Once these coins are forked, we'll see BITMAIN LIED to Zooko in regards to not private/secret mining AND about not having a larger Equihash rig that's been mining for a LONG time. Hell, it's quite obvious they had the Z9 (not mini) BEFORE announcing their Z9 mini for sale.
How will we see BITMAIN lied? Once everyone notes how much the network hash rate drops. Especially, if ZEC actually forks and we witness their hash rate drop. BITMAIN, currently has their hash rate distributed somewhat equally among BTG, ZEN, BCP and ZEC.
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lol you think im a bitmain rep, you must be outa your mind, i was mining equihash since last year, look into btcz i had been there since they started, and why dont you talk about the 51% attack we had and probably were still gonna have cos nicehash has alot more hash than zencash total net hash
Again, you put words in my mouth. There is a difference between a "rep" and a "SHILL" I called you a, 'Bitmain Shill." Remember? I've already mentioned in posts past my opinion of the 51% attack. Does this ring a bell: Suppose it's only a coincidence these 51% attacks occur on coins that:
#1: Declared they will fork away from ASIC's.
#2: All within a short time after CONFIRMING they will fork away from ASIC's.
#3: BITMAIN has a "motive" to implement a 51% attack based on developers of Equihash coins making a declaration they will fork.
#4: The fact that BITMAIN revealed they have a Z9 (not "mini") proves it would be VERY easy to implement a 51% attack. Which would ALSO prove they have mined with them for quite some time.
By you coming on here with your comment as a NEW ACCOUNT only suggests to me you're part of a FALSE FLAG 51% attack. Meaning, BITMAIN implements the 51% attack then sends proxy accounts out on social media to say we need their ASIC's to protect coins from attacks while they were the ones implementing the attacks all along. We're NOT stupid. Tell it to someone who's new to mining and doesn't know any better.
Once these coins are forked, we'll see BITMAIN LIED to Zooko in regards to not private/secret mining AND about not having a larger Equihash rig that's been mining for a LONG time. Hell, it's quite obvious they had the Z9 (not mini) BEFORE announcing their Z9 mini for sale.
How will we see BITMAIN lied? Once everyone notes how much the network hash rate drops. Especially, if ZEC actually forks and we witness their hash rate drop. BITMAIN, currently has their hash rate distributed somewhat equally among BTG, ZEN, BCP and ZEC.
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and you can help stop the 51% attacks were getting now on zencash?
The Developers can. How? By what's called a "fork." I assure you; it was not GPU's that performed a 51% attack. It was ASIC's and more than likely owned by BITMAIN. Now we have BITMAIN proxies [Like yourself] trolling social media to spread propaganda and do damage control. BITMAIN's selfish antics are being revealed to the entire community with every selfish act. If you wish to say, they will simply invest in more R&D for another ASIC, that's fine and dandy. However, any attempts to do so for private/secret mining in the future will be futile. The community will be more diligent to monitor the network hash rate in correlation with speculative price to discourage vain attempts to gratify self at the expense of community again. If ZEN and others adopt and/or create POW algorithms that render ASIC's and FPGA's on an even keel with GPU's similar to PROG Proof of Work, this would put an end to vain attempts by BITMAIN and others to gratify themselves at the expense of community. BITMAIN has lost their edge in SHA-256 and are simply looking for another algorithm to regain that edge. |
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