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1801  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Barry Silbert segwit agreement with >80% miner agreement. on: June 01, 2017, 09:42:29 PM

Interesting. It's surprising to see Core taking such a hard-line stance, as Bitcoin's market share erodes more daily.  Obviously Shillbert is working fist in glove with Blockstream/Core, so perhaps the goal of this whole "debate" and "agreement" is to shift the center of the debate toward Core more. It's just politics, which won't change the technical and economic realities for anyone who is thinking objectively.

Since UASF is essentially suicide, I don't think Core really has any negotiating leverage. They're just not in the position they think they are in...
UASF was screwed from the beginning and I always thought it too dangerous and aggressive. The only core dev pushing it now with BIP148 is Luke-jr and the rest are distancing themselves from it - this has happened numerous times before with LJR as his motivations are often called into question by the other core devs who repeatedly have to keep him in line. I previously used to work with him and instead of letting him work on my code with his own motivations I threw him out. If LJR's motives are simply to keep pressure on the miners through the threat of UASF then I could see why it would be helpful, but I'm not sure that's the reason. Either way I think BIP148 is dead in the water without more core support - the BIP148 client is NOT part of the core code and is an external fork as much as BU, classic, and XT...

The rhetoric, chest-thumping and circle jerking continues. My prediction remains that we will see a compromise and segwit+2MB will be it. The question that remains now is how it will be deployed. Previously I couldn't see an end in sight but now it has finally appeared on the horizon and I'm hopeful that a fork is becoming far less likely again. Now that core is seriously discussing it as a solution and various ways to implement it and appease the mining consortium in the process, I can't see any other alternative as having a realistic chance.
1802  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Barry Silbert segwit agreement with >80% miner agreement. on: June 01, 2017, 01:46:30 PM
Off-topic: When you put someone on ignore, does watchlist still show new post for the ignored user's posts? If not, I think I may have found my 1st person to ignore.  Undecided
The stupid forum keeps showing you new posts even for ignored users.
1803  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Barry Silbert segwit agreement with >80% miner agreement. on: June 01, 2017, 01:30:49 PM
Ck, I agree. You should delete all his posts on sight.

Oh come on... that doesn't help.
Really? Explain how franky1's endless anti-core, anti-segwit, anti-blockstream mindless diatribe that is debunked over and over has anything to do with the miner agreement this thread is about? Don't worry - you can read thousands of his posts on anything to do with the above in thousands of other threads here if you're that way inclined.

@Franky1, your posts are not welcome on this thread and should you continue to post you might qualify yourself for a well overdue ban the global mods seem reluctant to give you that you so rightly deserve.
1804  Other / Meta / Re: rickbig41 threads blocked on: June 01, 2017, 08:32:23 AM
They're not blocked. They're redirection notices when he's moderating and relocating threads in wrong forum sections to the correct ones, like this thread should be. It will be moved to meta/ where it belongs and a redirection notice will appear in bitcoin discussion/
1805  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Block 496057 30 BTC in fees. on: June 01, 2017, 06:44:19 AM
I've only seen rich people wrongfully put the fee
Well you've got to have 30BTC in the first place to be able to add that much by mistake Wink
1806  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Block 496057 30 BTC in fees. on: June 01, 2017, 05:45:17 AM
first of all you can not possibly know who is going to mine the transaction, even of the miner has a large percentage of the hashrate.
Unless the transaction was never broadcast and was directly inserted into the miner's work for [insert nefarious reason here].
1807  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [BETA] ckpool.org 0.5% fee SPLNS segwit mining pool on: June 01, 2017, 03:52:29 AM
Apparently the internet djinn are pleased with something I have done. I pointed my sidehack'd S7LN (~2TH) and my Gekko Compac (~18GH) to the pool and both are successfully hashing away. This is the first time that the S7LN, since I've had it in my possession, has been able to successfully mine to pool that wasn't a P2Pool node.
Great, the universe is telling you something then  Wink
1808  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Whats the likelihood of a coin/network split/fork come Aug 1? on: June 01, 2017, 02:23:46 AM
Given that the actual number of nodes advertising BIP148 support is less than 12%, and less than half of those are actually uasf enforcing nodes (the rest are just using the comment functionality), the chance of a successful major split from the rest of the network is very slim. Additionally the bulk of the core devs are increasingly opposed to BIP148 as it currently stands. It's my prediction that BIP148 will die a slow painful death without ever becoming popular enough to be relevant while other UASF options are explored, though ultimately I still predict there will be a compromise of some sort and a miner activated change in the end.
1809  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Block 496057 30 BTC in fees. on: May 31, 2017, 11:51:08 PM
that would be a failure if the block reward gone to the unknown miners. Shocked
That's correct, they would be screwed. Additionally there are even known pools that distribute their reward automatically to all their miners and it would be impossible to get hundreds and possibly thousands of miners to return their proportion of the wrong fee. One should just be appropriately careful with their own money...
1810  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Block 496057 30 BTC in fees. on: May 31, 2017, 11:28:28 PM
Whenever you see something like that it's someone screwing up with their transactions. The biggest one I can remember is someone putting 90BTC in fees instead of output. In most cases like this they contacted the pool who mined the block and provided evidence of them owning the transaction and got refunded.
1811  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Are any pools considering supporting the UASF on August 1st? on: May 31, 2017, 08:57:14 PM
Yeah, and I guess node count is subject to sybil attacks unfortunately.

Indeed, and not only UASF comment nodes but even signalling UASF nodes are more work but still straight forward to sybil. I doubt that's happening though at this stage. The number of core nodes has been surprisingly constant for a long time and a proportion of those have become the UASF nodes.


All that will is needed is a shared payout pool to incentive miners (solo pools just won't cut it) and some exchanges to list BIP 148 coin. I have no doubt that the revenue/kw-h will be higher on the BIP 148 chain, assuming it gets past the first difficulty adjustment.

ckpool.org is a shared pool but still very small. If you find me someone who's willing to dump PHs worth of hashrate just because I convert it to BIP148, I'm all ears, but I doubt you will

Seems like everyone is waiting for more adoption, adoptions needs people to stop waiting Tongue

I'm not so convinced as BIP148 is not a consensus change that has been put into core's git and tested and approved by all core devs. UASF seems to be gaining in popularity amongst the core devs but a number have already expressed concern with BIP148's approach.

If BIP148 gathers overwhelming support then I'll switch my pools over but I still think we need a mining based consensus forward. Everyone and their damn fork is putting shorter and shorter timelines on their activations and heading us into much more realistic chance of a fork happening as a result. I can't see how a fork is good for bitcoin in any way shape or form.
1812  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [BETA] ckpool.org 0.5% fee SPLNS segwit mining pool on: May 31, 2017, 08:44:38 PM
Come on Block, lets get cracking you and get you out the way!!

Yes please Smiley

Ok added a couple of miners...lets do this!

Thanks!

There are now 129 unique users in the payout queue and 239 unique users in total. Assuming people have taken my advice of only using the one username that's a surprising number of users despite a still very modest hashrate. I'm hoping that many of those users are holding more hashrate to their name and waiting for the pool to solve its first block before adding more here. It's also good to see so many small miners anyway since the idea of the pool was to provide a haven for them where otherwise it may be impossible for them to get a payout.

Now hang in there and let's crack this.
1813  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 1% fee solo segwit mining USA/DE 231 blocks solved! on: May 31, 2017, 12:45:53 AM
I know both blocks I found I tipped -ck, it's only right!!!
The pool itself doesn't really make much profit over the running costs without donations so all tips are much appreciated!

This block is taking a while but then we're "only" at 167% diff which is not unusual. It's just that diff is so ludicrously high that 1PH doesn't amount to much any more. But that best share hasn't shifted from 270G for ages... (doesn't mean anything of course it's just "interesting".)
1814  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Are any pools considering supporting the UASF on August 1st? on: May 30, 2017, 11:16:51 PM
Nice to hear CK I'll be looking to hop on board when you do Smiley
There isn't enough support as of yet to consider it a realistic possibility but there're still 2 months before its activation date.

Ignore the anomalies of those high spikes, the actual support is sitting only ~12%, and less than half of these are UASF activating nodes; they're mostly just bitcoin node comment. This doesn't even remotely represent the amount of miners that will mine the blocks either so there's a lot more work to be garnered before this is a realistic way forward for bitcoin.
1815  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience 2Pac BM1384 Stickminer Official Support Thread on: May 30, 2017, 09:19:34 PM
I believe every compac and every 2 pac should point to mmpool.org or ck's solo pool

to point them anywhere else is not a logical economic move.  At mmpool or ck's solo pool the sticks have a chance to turn a profit  since both pools give you a lot if you hit the block.
Thanks for the support of solo. Once I get enough hashrate on my new pool ckpool.org I'm hoping it will become a haven for small miners like this that actually do want to get a payout eventually of some sort, even if it's small.
1816  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Are any pools considering supporting the UASF on August 1st? on: May 30, 2017, 09:17:14 PM
I'm still very concerned about the safety of a UASF fork and about the level of support so I'm watching cautiously. If there is more evidence of overwhelming support then I will be converting my pools over. It's a trivial change to existing pools should they decide to do it.
1817  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Barry Silbert segwit agreement with >80% miner agreement. on: May 30, 2017, 05:23:07 AM
A small aside: Bitclub Network has moved back to signalling segwit.
1818  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Barry Silbert segwit agreement with >80% miner agreement. on: May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Well, I hope you all have fun with your Bitcoin fork. I'll be selling my Barrycoins, TYVM

Out of curiosity what path forward are you proposing as an alternative and do you feel a consensus can be built around that path?
Carlton is a fan of uasf+pow change if I'm not mistaken...
1819  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: UASF Activation on: May 29, 2017, 11:19:05 AM
These two links are helpful.

https://www.weusecoins.com/uasf-guide/
http://www.uasf.co/
1820  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Barry Silbert segwit agreement with >80% miner agreement. on: May 29, 2017, 09:46:21 AM
I can see franky1 posting but I can't see what he's saying since he's the number 1 ignore I have on at the moment. If someone feels his posts are pure trolling (as they normally are), point them out and I'll delete them.
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