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1821  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin dead? on: February 09, 2017, 04:59:19 PM
Bitcoin can not now die. It invested a lot of money. Therefore, it will go up in the next few years. I believe in it.
yeah bitcoin will be never die because getting much more stronger and a lot of people investing their money in bitcoin and maximum people strongly believe in bitcoin so i am sure bitcoin will be survive forever.
That is right that bitcoin will survive forever because it is now used in a large number of companies as a payment method for their clients and they are considered as the strong pillars for the base of bitcoin and because of these companies the survival of bitcoin will be forever.
Acceptance as well use of bitcoin directly have increased a lot. In a recent article it is mentioned that bitcoin acceptance in Japan increased by 20% which is very large. No need to be panic that bitcoin will not survive long.

That's reasonable, but today the price of bitcoin went so much down that I think many people have started to panic. Can someone explain what's going on? Why do so many people have so little trust in bitcoin? I mean why do they sell below $1,000?
people would call bitcoin dead when the price dropped at least to 50% or more , just like what happened few years ago the price went down from $500 to $200/$250 a lot of investor got huge loss due doing panic selling that time. but then what happened today? it's clearly growing gradually in every years, just take a look into the graph and you will see the fact.
1822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: February 09, 2017, 04:39:55 PM
For some, gambling is part of the vacation experience. It comes in the hotel/resort and provides entertainment for the guests.

That's for some and they prefer to gamble in real one rather than online. But there are also some that prefers to gamble online while they were on a vacation, for example if they are vacationing in a country where gambling is prohibited then they don't have choice but to gamble online and that can make them relieve their crave.
since online gambling are flexible i guess everyone love to do it online , as for some people especially an under age player they can't go to a real life casino. but you can do it even you are an animal in online gambling casino. so for me online gambling have more supporter and it's good for bitcoin as it seems that onlince gambling have a big contribution to bitcoin adoption.
For me, online is very appropriate and very comfortable especially someone who likes to stay away from casino environment, there are a lot of smokers there, I can manage but would prefer not to. There is no assurance whether you'll win or lose so, it's pretty hard to win, but it's entertaining. Bitcoin have achieved lots of accomplishments that are actually worthy, one of them is being applied into gambling. Lol
there's always pros and cons, online gambling hard to control if there's a lot of player underage and also a lot of real life casino not healthy as you said people smoking and drunk everywhere, and some casinos run illegally even have been regulated. one thing makes both same are on how people get addicted so fast no matter where they play, gambling simply addictive.
1823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you bet on "Sports" games that you don't know? on: February 09, 2017, 03:57:20 PM
I do that when I'm up on my bankroll by 300-400% and I am bored and dont have a game I know going on. I try to bet on random live events that I can watch and bet. I've bet on who will get elected as President of the United States while I had no interest in it but it was exciting the day it was on.
yeah sometimes you have to do it , bet on random event due there is lack of match . especially if you are a soccer bettor midweek was the boring days ever. force you to stake your money on strange teams. sometimes it's gives you an entertainment too , as it's like throw a dice but watching the game are a plus value in sportsbetting.

Actually true, there were times that I'm betting on some games where in fact I don't even know them , just trying it out. Though it is better and more fun to bet on the team we support ,and to do a quick research on them at least before betting if not familiar to the game and team.
things make it's entertain you more than any games is when you could watch it live and feel your heart beat so it's not a problem at all to do it for once or twice a week. as long as you are really enjoy it why not? it's gambling however, always about staking money on some uncertain things!
1824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 09, 2017, 03:26:41 PM
The only way I know where you can apply good analysis, and thus significantly reduce risk, is investing in sports betting. In any case, it remains risky.

Add to it that you can also gamble what you afford to lose and that's a smart way of gambling because there are gamblers who tend to keep on gambling not knowing that they are losing a lot of their money. And also a smart way is when you are going to bet small amount per game if you are unsure with it and max out if you think that you are going to have an assurance.
just know your time to stop and collect the winning . to continue play later and having profit steady. that's what people called smart gambler. the key are to stick on the rules, when you have a plan to stop on certain profit amount then stop it immediately. don't push yourself to something that impossible to happen, train yourself to handle your greedy.

Yes, we have to know when to stop, should be aware when things are not allowed to gamble, also collect and store some of the money you can. You can use some of the money that you can to gamble again, but remember only some, not all. Too risky, it could be you're just throwing money you get. And the most important thing is discipline, discipline in doing everything.
at this point people need to have a bankroll management , keep calculating the profit - lost to reach a steady daily / weekly / monthly profit. stopping forever to not gamble again in the next days aren't an answer as we are talking about gambling in smart way for survive in long time.

You have a point, we may stop for awhile but soon we will still find ourselves playing it,not for long but for sure once we played again we will get hook to it. Make planning or limits the games as much as possible and know when to quit.
you seems misunderstood , i don't mean to say that you have to stop or quit when you know it's the time to do it or something else it's hard to know it. but you can have a scheduled game , take a little profit steady say no to greedy and repeat it's about how to keep gambling and getting profit for long time, bankroll management here have a big part to make it happen to gamble smartly.
1825  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are your thoughts for Bitcoin in 2017? on: February 09, 2017, 02:45:06 PM
some people have a pessimist thought about how bitcoin could dropped down to 50% or so in this new year, but as usual i see a lot of people full of optimistic that invest in bitcoin now or then it would always give you profit as the price of bitcoin are increased gradually. i'm indeed want to be one of them who keep having optimism, i just wouldn't go allin to invest .

Yeah. Many people would want Bitcoin's price to go down, in order to buy cheap coins and profit once the price recovers. However, there are others which are long term investors of Bitcoin and would want its price to keep rising during the year reaching levels above $1500.

In the end, I guess that it is up to people to decide if they want Bitcoin's price to keep rising by promoting it, and spreading the word about it in the mainstream world or not. The more individuals, businesses, and companies join Bitcoin, the more the value of Bitcoin will be. Also, Bitcoin can rise even further if scalable solutions like SegWit becomes active. When that happens, Bitcoin would gather its attention towards those users who are new to the cryptocurrency. Just my opinion.  Grin
those people who actively trade bitcoin would of course expecting a very high volatile price, dropped so hard and skyrocketing in the end. it has been hapened several times especially in the last 4 months. everyone happy with that situation and make them more optimistic . the current price shows how bitcoin promising for investor and trader.
1826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Strategy and Lost in GAMBLE on: February 09, 2017, 01:56:51 PM
Martingale is the best strategy I know of but it has its own limitations and terms. You need to have really big bankroll to be able to execute Martingale system. If you dont have a big bankroll, you will have to start with betting extremely small amounts of BTC as a starting bet.

i think martingle is not a good strategy as of now because this strategy is famous, it is obviously that all casino owners are aware on this kind of strategy and well prepared to counter it so that they will not lose. The best gambling strategy is just be focus and don't be greedy. If you win on start of the game, then withdraw immediately your earnings because that is just a trap set by casino so that you will be force to bet huge amount once you lose
they aren't counter anything , it's just about the house edge that actually would never let you to win with that way , unless if you really did stopping play once you are in profit which i think it's rare happened , people would just get addicted and curious . bad idea at all .
1827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: February 09, 2017, 01:26:26 PM
Well, I think in playing dice those people would think and do some calculations, but I think it is not a strategy, because basically all depends on your luck, and whatever you do, you will not be able to do any strategy, because you can only view it
I disagree a bit with you here, some strategies like martingale and others actually are very good if someone is happy to accept small profits everyday. I mean yes if you want to double your money, maybe martingale is worst but for a 20-30 % profit, I think best is martingale.
though in a longer run no matter how much you play per day you will always lose those money, i would definitely not take the risks to make only small profit
Yeah I completely agree because basically some people give theories like if we generate small profits daily and then stop after a certain amount then we can win in long term while in reality such strategy delay your loss. Its like user is expected to loose after around 10000 bets and rather than making all 10k bets in a single day he makes 500 each day.
no you're wrong , for me it's not considered as delay the loss. but more to managing your bankroll to survive in the long run, even though i know that bankroll management in a game like dice to make profit for long time are in doubt , but at least you have trying.
1828  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: February 09, 2017, 01:08:16 PM
I don't think it will happen 15 years later or more than 15 years, Many people just see Bitcoin an alternative payment processor and investment, and few people see Bitcoin just for the community. With current US citizen more than 320 million and many people beside US citizen use USD it's will be hard for Bitcoin replacing Dollar. People still trust in USD or local currency if they saving Bitcoin is just for saving.
Totally agree with you, Bitcoin does not replace the dollar and will continue to exist in parallel as an alternative currency with its own special properties and mechanics. Dallar can only replace digital dollar, if in the future the government will do it, but it will be the same dollar is not just on paper.
then there is an interesting question popping up like is it possible if later dolar have a digital version to compete with bitcoin? as the future of money in my opinion are clearly it's crypto currency. paper money hurting our lovely earth as it created from the Cotton and Linen. it's time to move to digital!
Fiat is already digital. I am barely using physical money anymore for my daily needs. I either use my banking app that works with NFC or my NFC enabled bank card to complete purchases.

If I ask for a refund they just require me to turn on NFC and the money is being returned. I must however note that in this case the refund amount can take up to 24 hours to show up if the banks aren't the same.

If the banks are the same, then it's of course instant. Right now it's just waiting to make bank to bank transfers instant for every bank. If that happens, then it will be even better. It's just a matter of time.
sorry i was unclear , i mean dollar or euro that adopting bitcoin(blockchain) technology. adopt how cryptocurrency work with its decentralized system. in several sci-fi movies there is a story government like US and china compete to create their own cryptocurrency to handle the financial crisis , it might happened in the future, a cryptocurrency everywhere needed.
1829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: February 09, 2017, 12:56:45 PM
Yes, I can control my self while gambling.I don't lose temper by seeing big jackpot price.Many gamblers keep praying to beat the odds and hits the jackpot.But it's true that a addicted gambler can't control him most of time and lost his money.
Praying is not sufficient enough to win the jackpot and if you are lucky enough at a given time you will be winning the jackpot without much sweat.Every addicts think that they have everything under control and only when they lose everything they would open their eyes and see the misery they made .I have my budgets and win or lose i wont add more.
that's true , everytime we start to play there is a lot of confidence that you will stop playing at certain amount profit or losing limit , but well everything changes within a secs when you have sit on the table . the atmosphere was too good to be missed to keep playing , and most of the times people just ended up losing and walk away with full of regret.
Yes, we must play gambling with proper planning means we need to fix one amount and we must stop that amount cross. This much control you have in your play you can stop your play at the right time. I will not fix one exact amount, but I will put one eye on my losses if I get to know I am losing more money I will stop my play. And will play some other time or another day again.
the most important are to stop playing immediately once you got a streak lost, i bet everyone would follow it to the end until you lost and nothing left in your pocket. really at that moment only few people can control themselves to not chasing the streak lost due they are full of confidence that at some point they will win but it's not happened.
1830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 07, 2017, 07:19:12 PM
If you play just for fun it's not a problem. if you gamble to pay your bills then you got a problem.

So just play with the amount of money you are willing to lose and just have fun.  Grin
You are right till the time a person play for entertainment purpose only then they are not wrong and they will not care of they will lose because they will spend a smaller amount of money on gambling for fun if they also will care for his family and i some places I have saw that people sometimes for their needs of money start gambling and they lose again and again and still they are in the hope that they will one day win a big amount.
the problem are nowadays people only gamble like a mad for the sake of money not for fun. that's why mostly couldn't stop playing no matter what , they keep chasing the profit that actually something they couldn't reach in long term , so they gamble like zombie in the end without having any purpose , just do it keep gambling no matter it's lost.
1831  Economy / Lending / Re: 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ zazarb's Quick-Loans & Escrow 🌟🌟🌟🌟✨ on: February 07, 2017, 07:00:39 PM
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kindly send the coins here 1Hmk1R1wDxDERFiBvfdEVU4HJVy8DWdvNM

Thanks in advance

the repayment schedule would be

  17th jan,
  1 feb,
  16 feb,
  1 march,

accepted, signature verified.

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This is zazarb from bitcointalk. Today is 2th., Jan. 2017

I have funded the Loan in the amount of 0.5 BTC to poplolnman via txid
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Please repay
according to the following schedule:

  17th Jan,
  1th Feb,
  16th Feb,
  1th March,

0.54BTC total to following address: 1AxyPdVoRVkita9fnqCYaYZgssKvbzEpbL
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just sent the first payment as scheduled

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0.125+0.01

Next repayment would be

  1th Feb,
  16th Feb,
  1th March,

Thanks mate Wink
A little tip due the late payment

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As discussed the repayment adjusted to the following schedule :

  18 feb,
  4 march,

Thanks mate really.
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unpaid loan of 0.125 + 0.125 + interest would be paid in the next two weeks in 18 feb

and a new loan payment schedule would be :

13.5 eth + 0.9 in 4 march
13.5 eth + 0.9 in 18 march
13.5 eth + 0.9 in 1 april
13.5 eth + 0.9 in 15 april

my eth address 0xd458401f56f0b3d73d0cb92e5fd276114d252981
1832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: lucky ! does it influences by a woman beside of us? on: February 07, 2017, 04:31:21 PM
No I don't think having a woman beside you gives you more luck unless maybe in poker your opponents might screw up if the girl is really hot & they're too busy staring at her, not fully concentrating on the game.
it's just an illusion honestly , but a little bit fun when you consider it having an effect to the outcome Cheesy makes the game of luck everywhere. i do not believe it has any influence but yeah once again it's just a suggestion as you might feel everytime your wife or someone you love beside you makes you so lucky.
1833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Win using martingale system? on: February 07, 2017, 11:58:13 AM
Usually martiangle can made quick profit so just make sure that you're watching your bet or you will face significant loss
Sometimes I change my martiangle method into high risk high reward with martiangle , ofcourse the result will be profit at the end but it's all depend on luck !
what high risk high reward? you mean by adjusting the multiplier higher and keep doubling it? imho no matter how good you are in editing/modifying the martingale system it wouldn't provide you a winning in the long run , it's just killing you slowly. better to go yolo in sportsbetting rather than do martingale in the game that having house edge.
1834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: February 07, 2017, 11:46:56 AM
I'm usually invest on property for future need and I'm also help my parent for monthly expense !
Usually I got significant profit from gambling but it's really difficult to win from it

that's why its really needed to be more practical when we win mate, those earnings should be use in a more profitable ways, like investing it into trading and play around with some alts which have good potentials so in case that you needed some money you have something to sell and converted it to fiat..
yeah since we are talking about money that there is never ending. to use the profit from gamble to another profitable business would be the best choice, people would never feel enough as their needs keep improving even if you have big earning too , that was human nature.
1835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 07, 2017, 11:20:04 AM
Nope, i never ever had a good luck in gambling. I can make profit at first when i bet on match betting. But only applicable in first 2-3 games, when i won, after that i will lost xd

That is what happening to me too because I'm becoming lucky at the first place but as the game goes on. I keep on losing a lot and that makes me think that I don't have what it takes to be a rich guy in gambling. Because I keep on losing instead of becoming rich and saves a lot of winning it really can't be a way for me to have good fortune in gambling.
you can't become rich through gambling unless there is a lucky on you when you bet huge amount which i doubt a lot of people can do it. so there is below 1 percent of total people who gamble could become rich immediately due their huge winning in gambling. with that fact i guess people shouldn't have too much expectation to become rich.
1836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If today was your last day, would you gamble everything? on: February 06, 2017, 02:10:39 PM
If today is my last day, I would spend it on entertainment and food that I love to eat. There is no point in gambling when you can't keep the money even if you win.
The most important thing is to make yourself happy and leave some money for descendants. Money is only useful when you can live to spend it.

The same with me, I will love to spend my day and my money with eating together with my love ones and other relatives that I used to become close. I don't think that it will be memorable if your last day will be spent for gambling, just take a good time with your family and have your unforgettable moments with them so when they remember you, you gave a very good day to them.
actually the question itself soundslike a troll lol , but fine let's just talk about it. go for a good food and looking for a first class entertainment like golf or do whatever you like as hobby should be better choice rather than wasting your last moment in gambling Cheesy . but if you are an addict then makes yourself satisfied by gamble everything you have around would be the best answer.
1837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you bet on "Sports" games that you don't know? on: February 06, 2017, 01:51:17 PM
I do that when I'm up on my bankroll by 300-400% and I am bored and dont have a game I know going on. I try to bet on random live events that I can watch and bet. I've bet on who will get elected as President of the United States while I had no interest in it but it was exciting the day it was on.
yeah sometimes you have to do it , bet on random event due there is lack of match . especially if you are a soccer bettor midweek was the boring days ever. force you to stake your money on strange teams. sometimes it's gives you an entertainment too , as it's like throw a dice but watching the game are a plus value in sportsbetting.
1838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: February 06, 2017, 01:40:29 PM
For some, gambling is part of the vacation experience. It comes in the hotel/resort and provides entertainment for the guests.

That's for some and they prefer to gamble in real one rather than online. But there are also some that prefers to gamble online while they were on a vacation, for example if they are vacationing in a country where gambling is prohibited then they don't have choice but to gamble online and that can make them relieve their crave.
since online gambling are flexible i guess everyone love to do it online , as for some people especially an under age player they can't go to a real life casino. but you can do it even you are an animal in online gambling casino. so for me online gambling have more supporter and it's good for bitcoin as it seems that onlince gambling have a big contribution to bitcoin adoption.
1839  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you still use Bitcoin if price would be stable for years? on: February 06, 2017, 01:14:50 PM
If bitcoin prices were to be stable more people would officially adopt it and I wouldn't  stop using it.
Currently a number of people are accepting bitcoin because they are seeing that the price of bitcoin will increase more higher in price but you are also right that if the stability occurred in price then those people who want to store only their money in bitcoin then they will start to put their money in bitcoin as they will want to hide their money for the sake of security from robbers and thieves.
people would prefer use bitcoin as serious currency rather than just an investment like a stocks. nowadays indeed people can't accept a currency with a high volatility price like bitcoin , but in the future i believe people could accept that situation slowly as time goes by. so there wouldn't be a serious problem when the scenario like this happened.
1840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How did you started to gamble? What was your beginning like? on: February 06, 2017, 01:06:58 PM
I started to gamble near 12 years ago at some local bookie by placing bets on soccer matches. It was going to like this for long period then I enhanced my gambling activities to other sports event and now playing with Bitcoin. At start I was not going at casino related games but now I have played every kind of game for gambling.
you must be old enough as me lol , when there is no online casino as popular as right now. go to a local place where there is a lot of people stake their money hoping for additional money when they go back home. sportsbetting and some horse racing are the only two games that we always gamble on that time , but the yeah you will feel curious to try another games then and we did it.
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