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1841  Economy / Speculation / Re: How we know btc not going to 100$ ?? on: January 08, 2023, 01:20:17 PM
We never know for sure, but $100 is very cheap compared to the current price, in order for that to happen, there should be a massive panic that people will sell their holdings just to get out in the crypto space. The thing is, when bitcoin is down, the entire market is affected, so that means altcoins will drop as well and i don't know if crypto would still be able to recover.

Man,I just can't imagine seeing bitcoin price that low.  Sad
1842  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 08, 2023, 12:56:11 PM
We don't know what will be the outcome of this game 5, but we all know that it is Sunday game and we will see another huge number of fans to attend and support their teams.

As expected, Gin Kings had the lead now, an 11 points lead to be exact, but of course, the game is not yet over, we still have the 2nd half, let's see if the Bay Area will be able to come back to make it an exciting game.

By the way guys, I miss the spread on this game, for those who were able to bet, may Know what was it?

They are still ahead now actually, they seem to control this game. By the way, Kobe Lam was very limited here, they found a way to shut him down and the Bay Area is having a problem with where to get the points necessary to win. Looks like its already written in the script, Nicholson might be able to play game 6 to tie the series, that's my prediction.
That's a great prediction and yes possible to happen, they are playing according to the script. Well, Ginebra is doing a great job right now with a good lead they just need to continue this momentum and be consistent, Its good for Ginebra to limit the key players of Bay Area, there's a high chance for them to get the game 5 here. I was not able to place a bet because of a busy schedule, I might catch up in game 6 where Bay Area is expected to bounce back.

Game 6 will be this Wednesday, that's a lot of time for Nicholson to continue the healing process. He is necessary to be in the game as Ginebra had already figured out how to beat the Bay Area Locals. What we have seen in game 5 is a collective effort, Gin Kings does not really too much on Brownlee, some locals are doing a great job especially Pringle who had his old game back.

Lam only had 16 points, while Blankley had a night with 29 points.
1843  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 08, 2023, 11:18:03 AM
We don't know what will be the outcome of this game 5, but we all know that it is Sunday game and we will see another huge number of fans to attend and support their teams.

As expected, Gin Kings had the lead now, an 11 points lead to be exact, but of course, the game is not yet over, we still have the 2nd half, let's see if the Bay Area will be able to come back to make it an exciting game.

By the way guys, I miss the spread on this game, for those who were able to bet, may Know what was it?

They are still ahead now actually, they seem to control this game. By the way, Kobe Lam was very limited here, they found a way to shut him down and the Bay Area is having a problem with where to get the points necessary to win. Looks like its already written in the script, Nicholson might be able to play game 6 to tie the series, that's my prediction.
1844  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 08, 2023, 10:51:18 AM
I'll be curious to watch the Kings vs Lakers game tonight.

James scored over 30 points once again, and his teammates (Bryant, Schroder, and Westbrook) also had good performances. As a result, the Lakers beat the Kings by only 2 points, and that's their 5th win in a row. However, the Lakers are still in 12th place in the standings, but this winning streak has clearly improved their position, as the win/loss difference between the 5th and 12th place in the Western Conference is small now.

Kings have no interior defense, they were even outrebounded by Bryant alone, I think Bryant showed th best game in the season so far. I didn't expect the outcome, I was expecting that the Kings will be very aggressive and will win at home against the Lakers who played a back to back game. And by the way, Lakers continued their winning streak, great job for this team.
1845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 08, 2023, 12:59:14 AM
Here's my pick, I have put a bet on them earlier,

Spurs vs Celtics - as others said, the odds are somewhat weird, so I'm going on Spurs +12.5 on this game. Celtics is the best team in the East, and they could win this game but not cover the initial spread.
There's a chance but it doesn't look good right now, at the half time the Celtics are already leading 11 points. Spurs needs to come back in the 2nd half to be able to at least cover the spread.

+15.5 Spurs is currently the spread in live betting.


You are lucky if you take that spread, the spread was already down to a single digit, and based on what I see, there's a chance that the home team will cover the spread. +15.5 is a good steal IMO, well, I think Celtics will win but that -15.5 is definitely hard to cover unless they'll have a huge run and the Spurs will not respond.
1846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 08, 2023, 12:37:22 AM
As far as the latest reports I have seen regarding the status of Nicholson, his status is still questionable if he can play on Game 5.

Regardless, seems the Dragons do awaken their inner strength as they were able to win without their import.

Not sure though if the same winning case again will happen in Game 5 if they will still play without an import.

I think he will still not play in game 5, the betting spreads are out and Ginebra is still listed as the favorite.

As of now, they are -3.5 in this game, so if they will take revenge on their previous loss, they might likely cover the spread.
I got to trust them since it's Sunday and definitely we will have a huge number of crowd.
1847  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Deontay Wilder versus Andy Ruiz Title Eliminator on: January 07, 2023, 01:51:29 PM
This fight might end in a knock out though, two punchers and you know when they go at each other, someone will go to the canvass. I will also give Ruiz a chance here, the thing with Wilder is that when he faces a fighter than can box, he had a lot of problems early and the only thing that will save him is his punching power. But against a technical Fury, and a boxer that can take his power, Wilder is no match. Ruiz has a good chin too so that is a positive for him. So this is going to be close fight and if Ruiz is the underdog here, might be good to throw some money on him, hehehe.
Good luck bro, but honestly, I don't think it's a good idea because Fury is the only king and the kryptonite of Wilder. Until no other boxer would beat Wilder except Fury, I believe he is next to the best, even compared to the other champion in the heavyweight division.

Oleksandr Usyk vs Wilder
Joshua vs Wilder

That's the kind of fight that I think more challenging to Wilder than this one.
1848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: January 07, 2023, 01:28:29 PM
So here we go to game 5.

It would be nice if we can bet early so we will not miss the opportunity.
There's no confirmation yet if Nicholson will be able to play in game 5, and this is the latest update.

Andrew Nicholson unsure if he'll be fit to play in Game Five

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ANDREW Nicholson is non-committal on a possible return in Game Five of the PBA Commissioner’s Cup Finals.

The Dragons were forced to play without an import on Friday after Nicholson suffered a sprained ankle in their loss to Barangay Ginebra in Game Three.

The 33-year-old import wore a protective boot in his left foot and was in street clothes when he showed up for Game Four, which the Dragons won even without him, 94-86, to even the series at two game apiece.


No betting odds release yet.
1849  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 05, 2023, 03:50:55 PM
Anyone see the game between the Pacers and the Sixers? no Joel, but they took the lead majority of the game, until it was down in the 4 minute mark wherein the Pacers take a 4 point lead.

However, they force several turn over and tie the score and force OT. And we all know that when the team that chases and force that OT, they usually have the momentum and so this what happen to them, Pacers got tired the whole regular quarters and then the home team has the final push, 129-126 score.

That's mainly the reason why my bets lost, who would've thought that without Joel Embiid, the Sixers will still get the win at the end of the day especially if they are against the Pacers. The latter team got the advantage of course because Joel is not around and they will prevail when it comes to intense times that needed them to step up, and they will always take advantage of anything while the other team is undermanned just like earlier.

Same thing with the Sacramento Kings, they lost against the Hawks that has no Clint Capela on the hardwood. There are some times that they could've lost the games but they haven't, just this time when they got the advantage as well.
1850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 05, 2023, 03:30:28 PM
This bet will probably go through because even if you gave a -5 handicap to the home team, they will still win the game and that's almost guaranteed because they are now leading the game with a 30+ points. Quite surprised by the game actually because I was expecting the opposite thing where the Celtics leads the game and not the other way around.
It was definitely unexpected to see them take down a team sitting at the top of the standings by a huge margin. At the start, I was just hoping they get a good early lead and use that lead to keep it close.

Funny thing is that if they have managed to defeat a much heavy and stronger team like the Boston Celtics then I bet they won't be having a hard time against the Orlando Magic earlier where they have SGA on their line-up but that wasn't the case as it turns out that the Thunder lost. I may have no evidence but it's somewhat clear that the Celtics-Thunder match-up was cooked. Any thoughts about that game?
1851  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: January 05, 2023, 04:12:01 AM
LOL.. a few days back, Errol Spence posted this in Twitter:

https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr/status/1608830906516779011

The post only hints that he will be back in the ring by April 2023. But gives no further clue on who will be the challenger and where the fight will take place. Also, the exact date is not given (posted as "April Xx").

And more interestingly, he posted another tweet, in reply to a poll put up by another user on the likely opponent:

https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr/status/1608831449205182474

The results from the poll (3,583 votes till now) are as follows: Thurman- 48%, Crawford- 35.5%, Boots- 9.1%, Stanionis- 7.4%.

So does it mean that Spence is going to fight Thurman now? or he is gauging what the public opinion is and fortunately it was a hit for those who voted because they want Thurman to be his next opponent.

And it seems that they accepted that he won't be fighting Crawford or Ennis next because of the high risk low reward for him.

So hopefully he has finalized his decision to fight Thurman this April.

He's just making the public more confused on his aim and get them hyped by pretending to face any boxer who will get most votes in his poll. Truth is, he is just delaying his fight against Thurman and we should not forget that this is a mandatory fight too, so that means fighting Thurman is almost inevitable in his side except if he goes for Boots or Crawford? We already know the score between them as Spence chances to win are not that strong. Maybe Spence is aiming for the April Fools Cheesy
Yeah, probably he is trying to mislead the public with this kind of polls and maybe he is weighing what the fans wanted to see for him. And it seems that we have fallen for his trap as the votes goes to Thurman. How quickly though we forget that we all wanted Crawford for him but it seems that the news has died down and we are settled for the next best option and if which there is hype but we all know that Thurman has a long rest and probably have ring rust and that will be advantageous to Spence and that might be his safe fight next in April for all we know.

Let's just forget the Crawford vs Spence unification for now because we already hoped for it but unfortunately, we as the fans haven't got the chance to see the fight because Spence and Al wasn't interested to materialize the fight, it was all a front that they are not afraid but when the time came that they need to decide, they suddenly rejected Crawford the fight with some annoying reasons that doesn't make any sense.

Now, Boots Ennis's name has surfaced that Errol Spence might choose him instead of Keith Thurman. In my opinion, Spence won't risk his status in that fight because Ennis is not an regular boxer and if you've watched some of his fight, you can tell that Spence will have a hard time. In the end, Spence will have to face Thurman because this a mandatory fight.
1852  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia on: January 05, 2023, 03:43:56 AM
Ryan Garcia taking aim at Tank and says that he will finished him in 2 rounds, hehehe

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“Prediction for the fight – I say I'll beat him in about two rounds,” Garcia told The Joe Pomp Show.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-predicts-hell-ko-tank-2-rounds-hes-never-faced-adversity-risk-ring--171581

Ryan already hyping himself in this fight, saying that he will finished him in 2 rounds. I doubt though, Davis is known to be very cautious in the early rounds of his fight, just trying to figure out his opponents before making any adjustments. Specially if his opponent is someone of a knock out artist, just like in the Romero fight wherein he started very slow and trying not to get caught with big punch early. And we wanted the fight a bit longer, so that they will bring the best out of this two boxers.

Big words for a young man that hasn't yet fought any tough opponents in his whole career and saying that he can finish a fight in mere 2 rounds against Tank Davis. Now, I know that he's just trying to hype himself and to market their future fight even though it's not yet fixed but those words are too far from reality because Davis is no ordinary boxer that he can defeat that easily. He may have the size but the IQ belongs to the title holder.
1853  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 04, 2023, 05:16:21 AM

That is common because they don't have any strings to pull or that their promoter has no ties with the governing bodies or committees that will get the outcome to their favor, in those cases, they already know what would be the outcome and that the result will not be in their favor. To sum it up, almost all sports industries have the same problems because this is a multi-millions sports after all, we just got to be accustomed by it.

In some cases, they can not do something about it but there are promoters for that event that will surely use someone to make the fight in their favor and that task was always on the referee's decision-making, well there is recent news that a referee has recently admitted to cheating the knockout count for Pacquaio and prolonging the count because he is a Filipino well there are surely different aspect for the said cheating and allowing Manny Pacquiao to rest a bit and that Referee was Carlos Padilla so in this recent statement referee is surely prone to commit cheating for their favorite boxer, but if the fight is dominant enough are there are no chance for the following to make that cheat then there is no need to worry about something, but then if the fight was close then it can easily manipulated by the referee of the judges,

Yep I agree, They certainly have power to make it an unfair fight if they side in their favorite boxer. Even prolonging a count by a fraction of a second could be unfair to the match since every millisecond count in a knockout. That kind of unfairness couldn't be caught easily and I believe that it needs to make the referee admit or have a very solid video evidence that it was performed during the match. It could be the same on football where referee power is so strong that they can instantly raise up the violation card they want to give and it is according to their perspective.

It's truly embarrassing to know that these kind of stunts are getting common these days, I mean I know that promoters are starting to become more greedy to get their cows some favor but buying a referee and a judge to make the situation certain is quite too far already. Yet the governing bodies and committees are turning to a blind eye because even them have also participated these stunts as they are also getting some benefits about these things.
1854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 04, 2023, 03:48:18 AM
Hopefully, they can still win games without Zion on the lineup and proved that they are a different team this season as they are one of the teams on top right now in a very competitive West.

They can still win but it will be very hard. Without the two stars, only McCollum will be taking the lead to the young players left on the roster. It is just a few weeks before Zion will be back. They will be down a few games, but they will be able to gain it back when he comes back with Ingram.


Any reactions on Donovan Mitchell getting drug tested after an explosive performance? I know it is an incredible feat but I do not think he needs to be on drugs to be able to achieve it.

https://twitter.com/spidadmitchell/status/1610336026437865472?s=20&t=JEI7DwRGRMy2v4Y0nQKqMw

Yes, it will be a hard task for McCollum to lead the team and bring a W without the help of Zion. Brandon Ingram's return is still unknown as there's no timetable laid about him and Zion might be the first one who will recover first before him. But I guess the Pelicans can still handle their situation impressively even without their 2 stars, it's just a few weeks though, they won't be falling that steep as Zion and him managed to get the team at the top before the injury happened.

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Any reactions on Donovan Mitchell getting drug tested after an explosive performance? I know it is an incredible feat but I do not think he needs to be on drugs to be able to achieve it.

https://twitter.com/spidadmitchell/status/1610336026437865472?s=20&t=JEI7DwRGRMy2v4Y0nQKqMw

I don't know what is the basis why they needed to drug test Donovan Mitchell, is it just because he managed to put a 70 points in a game? That's unreasonable. Luka Magic put up 60+ but they were silent. I guess 70+ is where they drew the line to get a player tested for drugs. Just kidding! Mitchell is a great player, NBA should test someone if that's an ordinary player who suddenly achieved a 50+ career high.
1855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 04, 2023, 03:18:34 AM
The odds continue to shift to the side of the Celtics now that SGA is confirmed out of the lineup for the side of OKC and tbh I even liked their spread a bit more regardless of the blowout loss they had against the Sixers.

The Celtics will probably win here but i'll try a small bet on OKC+13.5 @1.69 bought all the points I can get on Stake and hope they perform much better and keep the game a bit close.

This bet will probably go through because even if you gave a -5 handicap to the home team, they will still win the game and that's almost guaranteed because they are now leading the game with a 30+ points. Quite surprised by the game actually because I was expecting the opposite thing where the Celtics leads the game and not the other way around.
1856  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: January 03, 2023, 10:34:28 PM
LOL.. a few days back, Errol Spence posted this in Twitter:

https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr/status/1608830906516779011

The post only hints that he will be back in the ring by April 2023. But gives no further clue on who will be the challenger and where the fight will take place. Also, the exact date is not given (posted as "April Xx").

And more interestingly, he posted another tweet, in reply to a poll put up by another user on the likely opponent:

https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr/status/1608831449205182474

The results from the poll (3,583 votes till now) are as follows: Thurman- 48%, Crawford- 35.5%, Boots- 9.1%, Stanionis- 7.4%.

So does it mean that Spence is going to fight Thurman now? or he is gauging what the public opinion is and fortunately it was a hit for those who voted because they want Thurman to be his next opponent.

And it seems that they accepted that he won't be fighting Crawford or Ennis next because of the high risk low reward for him.

So hopefully he has finalized his decision to fight Thurman this April.

He's just making the public more confused on his aim and get them hyped by pretending to face any boxer who will get most votes in his poll. Truth is, he is just delaying his fight against Thurman and we should not forget that this is a mandatory fight too, so that means fighting Thurman is almost inevitable in his side except if he goes for Boots or Crawford? We already know the score between them as Spence chances to win are not that strong. Maybe Spence is aiming for the April Fools Cheesy
1857  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: January 03, 2023, 10:22:17 PM
My picks for tonight.

Milwaukee Bucks (-4.5) vs Washington Wizards = Milwaukee Bucks Win 1.85 Odds.

Memphis Grizzlies (-4.5) vs Sakramento Kings = Memphis Grizzlies Win 1.92 Odds.

Good luck guys.


I tailed both of your bets, but I wasn't expecting Giannis not to play the game, I really wouldn't have considered Milwaukee Bucks as the favorites, let alone a -4.5 point favorite when they're playing this Washington Wizards team with both Giannis and Khris Middleton out injured, but there weren't many games to pick from to begin with so, there isn't much options I could have had.

Memphis Grizzlies getting me even for the night still makes it very fair imo, thanks.

Meanwhile, what I got is the opposite bet because I rooted for the Wizards than betting on Bucks as I already know that the Bucks guards can't make it to the game which will give an advantage to the Wizards, what I didn't expect is that Giannis not able to play, head coach didn't listed Giannis as questionable either.

On the other hand, I favored the Kings to win the game against the Grizzlies because Bane won't be with Ja Morant in the game. In an unexpected event, Kings roster wasn't that impressive today in their game against the Grizzlies which got my bets lost.

You are 1-1, and you are lucky that Giannis didn't play, things were so easy for the road team to beat the home team, and that's with a huge margin. Of course, Wizards does not have Beal as well  but the big 3 of the Bucks are out, so they lose.

Later they will have a rematch, a match-up between the Milwaukee Bucks vs Washington Wizards and the Bucks is again hosting the game, this time, Jrue Holiday will be helping Giannis against the Wizards and probably they will get their revenge from getting a defeat last time. I bet it will b a different game this time with Giannis rested and as well as Holiday.

Milwaukee Bucks -8 and Utah Jazz - 3.5
1858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia on: January 03, 2023, 09:53:50 PM
i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.
Nah, I don't think so, Garcia wants to prepare well for this fight, he said he wants to focus on his fight with Davis that's why he canceled the fight, so that means he believes that his decision was right and he will fully focus on his upcoming big fight. Anyway, let's just find out on the fight date, we will definitely know who's ready or not.
I would do the same if I were in his place. Gervonta Davis is not an easy opponent so it is better to be prepared earlier than his opponent. If for @AmoreJaz Davis has advantage because of this tune up and so is Garcia. He can study Davis technique, movement or current fighting style from this fight. Not to mention his mind will focus only on this fight.

Either way, it will give Garcia an advantage and a disadvantage because if Garcia pushed through that tune-up fight, he will have the first hand knowledge how to fight Davis because Gesta moves like him but he's not the kind of boxer that Garcia can beat easily and that's where the disadvantage come in because his time to prepare against Davis will be much lesser but he already have any knowledge, whereas if Garcia prepares directly, he won't have any knowledge but he's prepared, the downfall is that it's not that sure that his plans will be correct.

That can happen if he takes the risk and proceed in fighting Gesta, having a good insight on how your possible opponent will move and
anticipate his attack with the same strategy will help you a lot.

But just like what you mentioned, Gesta is not an easy opponent and the chance of him losing the fight is possible, maybe he or his
camp see that so they decided to not to continue.

Instead, they will prepare harder with the upcoming fight against Davis.

I had the same impression that Garcia made the move along with his camp and Oscar Dela Hoya, but it turns out that it wasn't the case because as Golden Boy said, Ryan Garcia made the move himself as all of them were left surprised because they have thought that Ryan is eager to have his own tune-up fight so that he will have a first hand knowledge on how will Tank move.

I guess we will know it soon, Ryan Garcia only knows why he didn't proceeded with the tune-up fight.
1859  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is the bear market over? on: January 03, 2023, 09:33:53 PM
"Is the bear market over? Hard to say, but a lot of the bad news was priced in. With a maximum drawdown of -28%, SPX discounted 85% of a typical 33% market decline and 78% of a recession bear market. I still like the 1946 counterpart-"
It looks like the bear market is not over for now. The bear market continues, and Bitcoin will experience small dumps from time to time. However, market conditions are more stable than before. We will be difficult to predict the current market conditions. Will it be bearish or bullish which will happen in early 2023. By and large Q1 in any year will experience a bit of dumping.

OP already said it himself, hard to say. With the current issues and market situation, bear market is yet to stop or nearing its end as there's also no signs that the bull is already approaching. Truly hard to say and judging from the current situation, bear might stay for another couple of months or for the whole year before the halving in 2024. Of course, that's just a speculation because nobody here in this planet could predict what would happen in the future.
1860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: January 03, 2023, 09:11:58 PM
What site ranking is this in the first place? I just want to know. I doubt it for the GSW this time around it looks like they won't gonna make it. These days it keeps getting unpredictable on who's gonna win the NBA championship, and, when the playoffs come that's when the most unpredictable thing happens.

I do not know where you are basing that comment, but GSW still looks solid even with their poor start this season. They are 19-18, which is above 500. They are currently on a 4 winning streak and 5-5 on their last 10. All that was done without Curry and Wiggins. They are currently ranked #9 which is still okay since they still have 45 games to play. Last year, I think, they finished 5th in the West and were still able to take home the Championship. As long as they are able to get into the playoffs, they still have a good chance of winning the chip. They are a different beast in the playoffs, especially if they are all healthy.

As always, Warriors are a late bloomer kind of team who struggles every start of the season but when they are already heated, they will start to bully the teams particularly if they are all healthy, even if one of them are injured, they are still pretty impressive because they will always step up to defend their team from the vulnerability. They just don't care about the bracketing because they know the real score, the important thing for them is to get a safe seat to the playoffs even if that means that they will just sit at the 5th or 6th seed.

The team now that looks poor is definitely Phoenix Suns, the team won't go anywhere without Booker. CP3 is not as good if there's no Booker.
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