I think it was a reasonable offer from West Ham. Harry Maguire's market value is €20m, it is the same as the offer made by West Ham. If Man United wants to exclude him from the main squad, Man United must accept the offer although it is very far from the purchase price previously. I'm sure not many clubs interested in Maguire due to his bad performance. West Ham may change their mind if Man United rejected the offer, there are still many other good defenders. It is just nonsense if Man United wants a bigger money from West Ham because they sold Declan Rice at €116.60m. The offer on Maguire has nothing to do with Decline Rice transfer.  

It is not a low price, West Ham offers a deserved price. Check again Harry Maguire's market value now, it is €20m only.
He is clearly failed in Man United and has no chance to return to main squad. He even performed worse, so it is difficult to expect his come back. Another problem is Maguire not a young player anymore. At 30 years old, a player should be in their best form. If he can't perform well, the value will easily decrease significantly.

That's why you must remind them about the risks. And they also must understand that you only share the information and it is not a must to follow it. But if they want to try investment, you must tell them that you have no responsibility with the potential risks. DWYOR is the common words to remind every crypto investor about their investment is with their own responsibility.

I always do the same way even it is to my close people. I remind them DWYOR.
Sure, it will be more complicated if the close people blame us. We all know it easily ruins the friendship or brotherhood if it is about money.

You copy paste your previous post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461343.msg62615329#msg62615329.
Why should you do this? That post is also OOT, dude.

2020-2021 were the hype of meme coins, it was when Dogecoin became very popular because Elon Musk campaigned it. Since Dogecoin was popular, we saw too many meme coins at that time but most of them just end up with nothing. Many of them were scams, some failed to develop because they have no longer demands on the market. So, I don't think this year will be the hype of meme coins because there are many people who feel disappointed with meme coins. Sure, as the name of meme coins, it have no strong fundamentals, they no clear plan in the future. That's why we know that it is not recommended to invest in meme coins.

Anyway where do you get the stats that there are 8 meme coins projects of 10 current projects? If it is related to the new projects in this forum, I assume we have more AI projects than meme coin projects.

Agree. Everyone will rely on Bitcoin trading as their main source of income if it is easy and there is a guarantee for profits. Although it requires sufficient knowledge and experience, people will try to live with trading. But even you have enough knowledge and experience, there is no guarantee for profits and the market is always difficult to predict. So, there is no way to make Bitcoin trading as a sole source of our income. I think it is ideally as an additional income.

For beginners, Bitcoin trading doesn't deserve to be the source of income. Unless they get profits, they probably get more losses during learning trading. They must focus on learning if they are beginners. They can consider it as an additional income when they already know how to trade properly and understand how to trade with an effective strategy.

How do you know that the high rank account ask the loan for gambling?
I know that we have some loan services in this forum, there are many forum members asking for loan there. But they never stated the loan for a certain purpose, nor for gambling.

Anyway, if it is true. The high rank asked for the loan because they know well how to earn money from gambling. They mustn't use the loan money if they just speculate in gambling. Basically, it is too risky to use the loan money, but the experts or experienced gamblers can deal with the risks. However, it is just my guess, not sure whether they really can succeed with loan money or not. For me, gambling is gambling, no specific way to always win. Even you are an expert, the chance to lose will be always more than 50%.

Of course, when we take a loan, we must expect to earn more money. The loan must have a deadline to repay and have some interest, too. This must bring more pressure to gamblers.

I still can't believe that even Sadio Mane decided to join to SPL. As far as I know, Sadio Mane still performed well, he only couldn't get enough time to play in Bayern Munich. I think Sadio Mane deserves to stay in Europe competitions, he is one of the top wingers in the world. However, I think Sadio Mane consider that he will play together with Ronaldo and he will earn big money in Saudi. This is probably the reason why he finally joins Al Nassr.

They seem to sign Harry Kane in the near future. That is why Bayern Munich can agree with Mane transfer to All Nassr. If they can't get the replacement, I am sure Bayern will try to keep Mane.

Anyway, I heard that Al Nassr got a sanction by FIFA, why they still can sign a player? Do you know this?

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Tentu ini strategi bisnis Elon Musk, langkah yang sangat berani merubah nama Twitter yang sudah familiar dengan nama X yang orang-orang bahkan tidak mengerti maknanya. Bukan tidak mungkin strategi ini malah membuat banyak orang-orang pindah dari twitter ke sosial media lain yang serupa. Walaupun hal ini berpotensi merugikan, saya yakin Elon Musk punya tujuan jangka panjang terkait perubahan ini. Kita tau bahwa Elon Musk ini erat kaitannya dengan branding X, mungkin Elon Musk ingin menyelaraskan namanya dengan perusahaan atau proyeknya yang lain.

Saya kira tidak ada kaitannya dengan crypto. Apalagi dengan meme coins, pastinya tidak ada hubungannya.
Elon Musk juga bukan tipe investor aktif yang suka membeli berbagai koin. Jikapun Elon Musk hold koin, hanya ada 2 koin yang mungkin dia punya (BTC dan Doge).

Kalau Elon Musk mau membuat koin crypo, dia pasti sudah membuatnya dari dulu ketika ia mampu membuat gebrakan fantastis untuk Doge. Di moment itu tentu akan jauh lebih mudah bagi Elon Musk untuk menarik minat orang-orang.

Unggahan post (tweet) akan disebut "x's". Berarti retweet akan menjadi rex's.
Memang menjadi terasa sedikit aneh karena kita sudah terbiasa dengan kata tweet dan retweet. 

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In theory, most gamblers understand this. They know that chasing back the losses isn't the right way in gambling, but they still do it because they can't control their emotion. So, this can be avoided if the gamblers have good self control and know how to calm their emotion. That's why casinos set a minimum age for the gamblers, it is one of the preventive ways to eliminate underage who still have difficulties to control emotion. However, in fact, he ability to control emotion isn't only determined by the age. It is also influenced by many factors such as educational background, habits, neighborhood or friends, and many other things. Since there are too many factors involved, even mature people also can be hard to control emotion.

Sure, if we often chase the losses, it makes us be addiction. This way leads us to spend more times and more funds in gambling. At the end of the day, it is possible that we loss everything. Addicts can't have realistic mindset, they only think about more money to spend in gambling. They always believe they can win the jackpot someday.

Do you mean trading tips or trading strategies?
I don't see something wrong to learn varied trading tips, they must be useful for us. Specifically the trading tips that are shared by OP in the first page, those are the basics matters to know in trading. Everyone must know the basic things in trading first before they begin to trade. Sure, we must understand it firstly, so we can apply the tips for our trading activity.

Indeed. Trading has the risks, it is not an easy way to earn money. We must learn seriously about the risks, it is the only way to avoid severe losses. Regarding the success in trading, it surely needs a process and sometimes takes a long time. Although we already learn from many sources, we need experiences to strengthen our insight. We may not get the experiences from demo trading, we get the it from real trading.

Agree. Before trading, we must understand the risks firstly. It will help us to minimize the risks. Sure, it also becomes one of the considerations related to our trading goals. We make goals in trading more realistically if we make them by considering the risks. So, it is true that understanding the risk first should be the priority.

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I didn't explain about what the purpose of most people in gambling. I only explained that people gambled not only to earn money but people also gamble for fun or to spend their spare time. Some people understand that gambling isn't the right way to expect money, the chance to win the prizes is small. But they still gamble because they are happy playing gambling games. If you are discussing on gambling topics a long time, you must know this very well.

Anyway, we don't need to learn the statistics, it is clear enough that people more often got losses than won the gambling. Every gambler knows that most gambling games relies on the luck, the chance to win it is below 50%.

How do you know it?
Read again my post previously, I said the rich people who probably gamble for fun.
I've explained that middle class or lower class people probably gamble to expect earning money.

Let the kids know about Bitcoin is no problem if it is with a proper way. The purpose is just to let kids know about the general matters of Bitcoin. As long as we don't teach something that is unnecessary for them, I don't think it is a problem. We don't teach them about the way of investment or teach them how to trade Bitcoin.

Are you sure it is your strategy? Have you learned it with your kids?
If you already tried it, you must let us know about the results on the kids. Do it bring something positively for the kids?
To be honest, I don't think to teach my kids if they are not in Junior high school. I plan to let my kids know about Bitcoin when they are in Junior high school, I think they are capable to understand it at the age above 10 years old.

Saya perhatikan cukup banyak aplikasi yang diajukan. Karena belum ada yang mereview, perkenankanlah saya untuk mencoba mereview beberapa pengajuan apply di atas. Semoga ada hal yang bermanfaat dari review ini. 

1. Untuk fungsi transaksi, yang jelas di negara kita tidak diperkenankan. Sedangkan jika untuk lintas negara, masih sangat terbatas kegunaannya sebab masih jarang yang bertransaksi antar negara. Kecuali untuk orang-orang tertentu yang terbiasa ekspor impor. Tapi belum tentu juga di negara terkait melegalkan transaksi dengan crypto.

2. Common sense

3. Sayangnya yang jujur biasanya masa jabatannya tidak lama. Yang mau diajak kolaborasi yang biasanya bisa umur panjang jabatannya.  

4. Kalau tujuannya untuk join sigcamp paid BTC, ada beberapa BM yang mempermasalahkan Tag Netral yang isinya catatan negatif. Tapi kalau hanya untuk join sigcamp paid altcoins, tidak ada masalah dengan Tag Netral.

5. Baca lebih teliti post yang agan komentari. Di sana jelas disebutkan mereka pindah kewarganegaraan. Jadi jelas tidak ada sisi postifnya bagi Indonesia karena mereka sudah bukan lagi bagian dari warga Indonesia.

6. Coba cek lagi linknya?  

7. Saya kira terkait hal ini tergantung dari sudut pandang mana melihatnya. Jika melihat dari sisi religi, ini jelas bertentangan dengan nilai-nilai agama. Tapi kalau dilihat dari efesiensi penanganan masalah judi, akan lebih mudah mengontrolnya jika dilokalisasi.

8. Common sense

9. Saya juga kadang-kadang bertanya meskipun singkat. Rata-rata lebih suka menjawab karena kemungkinan penjelasannya bisa lebih panjang. Sedangkan ketika bertanya, cenderung tidak memerlukan deskripsi atau penjabaran panjang.

10. Common sense

1. Post informatif dengan penjelasan singkat. Tapi saya sarankan pertanyaan2 yang agan ajukan, agan coba jawab dulu dengan sudut pandang agan sendiri. Jadi kesannya agan tidak hanya bertanya, ada usaha untuk menjawab juga.

2. Skip

3. Memang ada teori yang mengaitkan dengan Cypherpunk. Tapi Bitcoin berfokus ke hal yang lebih spesifik seperti yang dijelaskan Satoshi yaitu untuk alat transaksi digital dan menghindari ketergantungan transaksi pada pihak ke 3.

Saya menyoroti bagian 'mengganti Bitcoin', saya rasa sampai semua blok dimining pun tidak ada istilahnya mengganti Bitcoin. Bitcoin ini bukan hanya terkait miner tapi juga trader dan investor. Trading tetap jalan dan harga akan selalu sesuai dengan demand yang ada. Selain itu Bitcoin itu tidak akan tergantikan karena tidak ada koin lain yang punya kapasitas yang sama.

4. Saran-saran yang bagus. Penggunaan Quote ini sebenarnya hal dasar, namun bagi newbie bisa jadi belum paham karena baru join forum. Saya lihat Aleeya89 ini memang baru bergabung pada Juni 2023, jadi wajar kalau masih ada salah2 dalam hal Quote.

5. Sudah banyak yang menjelaskan terkait recovery, saya rasa agan juga sudah cukup paham. Mengenai kemungkinan menyimpan data Bitcoin di brangkas bank, saya rasa orang-orang cenderung menghidarinya karena terlalu rumit. Ada banyak cara untuk menyimpan data Bitcoin, tinggal pilih cara mana yang paling cocok untuk masing-masing kita.

6. Threadnya ada di board global (Bitcoin Discussion), sebaiknya gunakan bahasa Inggris. Walaupun mungkin sebelumnya ada di board lokal, sepertinya pada akhirnya di tempatkan di board globa kembali.

7. Tentu masih ada saja masyarakat yang tidak terlalu paham, terutama masyarakat awam yang tidak update isu-isu politis. Makanya manuver politik identitas seperti tuduhan-tuduhan ke pak Anis masih saja beredar di sosmed atau media tertentu. Karena targetnya adalah masyarakat yang awam wawasan politik walaupun aktif di sosmed atau sering mengikuti media tertentu.

8. Saya kira akan selalu ada update informasi, contoh hasil riset yang memberikan input informasi real ke internet. Selama ada input informasi baru, AI bisa dikatakan efektif untuk mengelola informasi yang dibutuhkan sesuai perintah. Sejauh ini hasilnya terbilang unique, belum ditemukan kasus copy writing. CMIIW

9. Terlalu jauh untuk berspekulasi ketika Bitcoin habis ditambang. Secara hitungan sudah dijelaskan @Sarah Azhari, masih ada sisa 117 tahun sampai habis ditambang. Misalnya pun Bitcoin selesai ditambang, belum tentu juga ada koin lain yang mampu melampaui market cap Bitcoin selama Bitcoin masih menjadi koin utama di crypto. Ibaratkan saja menggeser dollar dari mata uang utama internasional, akan sangat sulit karena terlalu banyak faktor yang berpengaruh.

10. Common sense

Ini maksudnya culture setempat atau budaya lokal kita?
Untuk masalah ini, harusnya menjadi tanggung jawab orang tua. Ketika generasi muda saat ini yang tidak kenal budayanya, berarti orang tuanya kurang mengenalkan mereka tentang nilai-nilai budaya. Di tempat saya, ada etika khusus dalam berpakaian saat ada acara tertentu yang kental akan nilai-nilai budaya (misalnya pernikahan). Dulu, semua pihak keluarga laki-laki di wajibkan menggunakan sarung seperti kebudayaan melayu. Tapi saat ini sudah banyak yang hanya menggunakan celana kain tanpa sarung karena tidak tau seperti apa etika berpakaian yang seharusnya. Jika ini makin dibiarkan, lama-lama orang hanya menggunakan pakaian yang dianggap paling simple.

Orang tua milenial terlalu fokus ke masalah keilmuan, lupa bahwa nilai-nilai budaya juga penting. Jika tidak ada didikan khusus dari para orang tua terkait nilai-nilai budaya, maka di masa depan kebudayaan kita bisa hilang satu persatu. Meskipun masih bisa bertahan tapi sisi originalitasnya tidak mampu dipertahankan.

Kegiatan sosial seperti apa? Ada kegiatan sosial yang tidak terlalu berkaitan dengan budaya, yang demikian umumnya hanya kebiasaan setempat. Misalnya gotong royong atau kerja bakti di hari minggu. Di banyak tempat daerah perkotaan, hal semacam ini sudah jarang diadakan. Karena di hari minggu banyak yang lebih memilih untuk rekreasi. Jikapun ada, biasanya hanya diadakan untuk event-event besar saja, contoh untuk persiapan Agustusan. Hal-hal seperti ini tergantung seperti apa kepengurusan di tingkat RT-RW. Jika mereka menggalakan para pemuda, biasanya yang muda pun ikut serta. Tapi ada juga yang hanya diperuntukkan untuk bapak-bapak saja. Karena gaya kepengurusan bisa saja berbeda, sulit untuk menyelaraskan komitmen dalam melestarikan kegiatan sosial oleh anak muda.

We don't know about the percentage, but even rich people probably gamble, too.
There are many reasons why people gamble, it is not only about expecting to earn money. Some people gamble for fun (entertainment purpose), some gamble to spend their spare time, and others probably gamble to win the jackpot. Middle and low class people may gamble for money, they want to try their luck to earn money. While rich people are likely to gamble for entertainment or spending spare time. So, based on these possible reasons, any level of people can have a chance to gamble. Gambling isn't for middle and low class people only, it is also for rich people as well.

Indeed. For people who are disappointed with the high fees on Ethereum network, there are many other tokens that offer cheap transfer fees. Tron (TRX) and Polygon (MATIC) have very cheap transfer fees, they are also trusted altcoins. These altcoins are perfect to be the options, there will be no more issues about high transfer fees.

True. The problem of expensive fees on Ethereum network was already discussed since last year. It is not a new issue, everyone understands it very well. That's why some people prefer to choose Binance, Polygon, or Tron for the solution. Although Ethereum already made some improvement, the transfer fees are still not really affordable anymore. Well, bounty hunters and bounty managers prefer to choose BSC or Binance chain now.

If you only want to grow the value, you just need to hold it on your private wallet. But if you want to grow the number of your Bitcoin, you can buy more whenever there is a good chance to buy again. You also can trade your Bitcoin if you have skills in trading, you can use the profits to collect more Bitcoin. I think these are the possible ways to grow the Bitcoin.

Put the Bitcoin on gambling isn't the way to grow Bitcoin, it is the way to spend Bitcoin. You must know that winning on gambling is very small chance, too risky to use Bitcoin there. If the purpose is to grow Bitcoin, you shouldn't choose gambling!

Greedy will always lead to severe losses. It is applied for any field, not only in gambling. In investment and trading, many people also experience the severe losses because they are too greedy. However, it is a valuable experience, you must take a big lesson from the story. I guess you will think more realistically whenever you put your bets again in the future.

It is gambling, don't think more efforts guarantee more wins. Since it is mostly about the luck, just get the prizes whenever you think the prize is enough for you. The casinos won't ever stop to give you more offers of bigger prizes, but you need to think realistically and control your emotion. Always remember that the chance to win won't increase although you put bigger money, especially on the betting.

Saya lihat opsi votenya ada 4 ya

Opsi 1

- Kebanjiran supply bukan berarti harga BTC bakal jadi 0. Selain itu crypto itu mencakup altcoins, hilang BTC belum tentu semua altcoins juga ikutan hilang.

- Hampir mustahil Satoshi menjual semua BTC. Kalau niat Satoshi cuman mau rugpull, dia gak bakal nunggu sampe lebih 10 tahun.

Opsi 2

- Gimana ceritanya momen beli BTC kalau harganya berpotensi suram. Ini gak masuk akal, gan.  

Opsi 3-4

- Menurut saya opsi 3 tidak perlu, cukup diwakili opsi lainnya.

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Opsi yang menurut saya perlu ditambahi:

- Exit segera sebelum harga anjlok
- Tetap hold, harga BTC pasti pulih