Loan Amount: 0.01
Amount to be repaid: 0.0125
Repayment Date: 48 hours
Collateral:account if its worth it, or can send venmo
Reason:to pay transaction fees
Bitcoin Address:166zLvTtD6L4g2StjikHhjvd9E9bFEzH5F
Sorry but I don't accept your forum account as collateral, so I can't help you. |
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I didn't sell my account, are you serious Quickseller  ? It was suggested by PistolPete that I post this. Then you and PistolPete are wrong, I didn't sell my forum account. |
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<snip>There is also this: Yes, I would personally suggest you electrum. It is very good and light wallet.
If you look at both his vanity address and his "new" address, you will see that all of the transactions he spent were initially seen by blockchain.info's own node, indicating that he either used their wallet or was using blockchain.info/pushtx to spend his funds. At the very least, an eye should be kept on him.... What is the problem if I suggest other users to use electrum and I personally use BC.info ? |
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I didn't sell my account, are you serious Quickseller ? |
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No matter which way you cut it escrowing your own transaction is deceitful, illegal, and compromises the safety of the other party. This entire situation has shown that anonymous escrows should not be used. Human escrow is fine if someone has great reputation AND their identity is known.
I have learned that anyone who is completely anonymous when doing business usually has bad intentions (if not always), they know at some point they are going to commit a crime so they never let other traders know their name. I have been burned multiple times by completely anonymous people on the internet, never by someone who let their identity be known.
That just shows you haven't been on the internet long enough  Karpeles or Garza for example. The latter had an interesting view on escrow as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg10122712#msg10122712I don't get why QS and TC didn't use another escrow for their alt's trading. Penny wise pound foolish?You should ask to them (privately or better publicly). |
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Really? I mean this is the third time he has been removed from the DT list. I've never heard of another member being added and removed so many times. He's made a record Yeah and this time I don't think he will be re-added, due his behavior and lies. |
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I voted for "No". It's is not correct act as escrow using (your) secret alt, because as you said "An escrow should be a neutral third party".
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I understand what you wanted to say, but another valid question is:
Why Quickseller staged his fake ban? It was not necessary in my opinion, and for this reason I can't trust him.
Who confirmed the fake ban? I'm not trolling or anything, it's just that I asked before and nobody answered back with a confirmation from someone who has the ability to ban. Is that just being based on the fact Panthers wasn't banned because I doubt QS used the same IP across all of his accounts. There are a couple of threads and many posts (trolling and sig spamming included) so I probably missed something here. I removed Quickseller because he was acting to deceive people, and I can't, and won't, be a part of that (he wasn't banned) if I know about it. I don't think he had bad intentions, or is a bad person, just maybe didn't think it all the way through.
Escrowing for yourself...on the one hand if someone is using Quickseller as an escrow, then they are using him because they trust him, or at the very least because they think his reputation is worth more than what they are trading. Him being part of the trade doesn't change that, and it still provides the peace of mind that an escrow can provide.
On the other hand, an escrow is supposed to be an impartial mediator in the event of disputes, which would be very difficult to do when being part of the trade. Even if he knew or thought he wouldn't do anything wrong in the process of the transaction, disputes can still arise when neither party has done anything wrong. That and taking additional fees isn't really the right thing to do. It's probably something one should avoid.
I don't have a strong stance on tspacepilot's feedback, or turtlehurricane's. I probably wouldn't leave the negative feedback myself, but I don't strongly disagree with it either.
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I think (even) if he wants to come back and regret... he can't, because the 'shame' will be enormous.
This part seems true, and it is unfortunate. I tried to get QS to resolve this with me quietly nearly two months ago via PM. The idea was that perhaps if we talked in private we could figure out how to get along and he could remove his attacks without "losing face", as the expression goes. Unfortunately, he merely restarted his false accusations in his usual inimitable style "you are a scammer, I know this". And then wouldn't reply when I asked him to explain to me, in private, how it is that he thinks he knows so much about a situation he wasn't even present for. After waiting a week and a half for a reply, I had to go back to the only other recourse, asking in public. I really never expected him to keep doubling-down on the stakes like this. It really seems like each time he's backed into a corner with people saying "QS, why don't you drop this", he brings in a new account to sockpuppet and distract. He's sorta going crazy with it at the moment, you can see that he's posted nearly two pages quoted walls of nonsense, off-topic, randomness into this thread using at least three accounts ("QS_banned"? what is that about?!) in just the last 24 hours. I also would have never predicted that he would involve the alts that he's using for his escrow-scam-trading into this clearly personal grudge. That is, it seems that no one would have ever known that panthers52 was his alt, and the was trading with it using himself as escrow if he hadn't pulled it into this wild-ass saga. Alas, what do we do now? I admit, I find it hard to believe that he's trusted by anyone with a reasonable head on their shoulders after all these stunts. As redsn0w says, it seems he's intent on "going down with the ship" like some sorta old sea captain. QS, I know it would be hard, but it would demonstrate actual character at this point, you could go ahead and right your wrongs here rather than continuing to double-down. You can remove the sockpuppet ratings from troll account FunFunnyFan, you can delete your negative feedback on me which is merely an echo of long-discredited scammer TradeFortress and then go about trying to repair your reputation with respect to your shady trading practices. When the house is on fire, it's time to leave the house, don't keep throwing wood on it. So at the end he doesn't want to change or remove the negative trust and 'clarify' everything, why? Because the shame will be enormous... like I said previously (and I don't know if the community will 'trust' Quickseller again). Maybe because he still believes that TSP is a scammer. How does Panthers coming out as QS make the negative feedback any different? It happened before the shady behavior by QS was in the spotlight. You believe someone is a scammer, you mark them as a scammer. For all we know (and only QS would know this), TSP trolled, QS looked for a reason to troll back and found TSP scammed (I'm not saying he scammed or didn't scam) so decided to leave negative feedback, not for trolling but because of shady activity. I know, I know... this may be hard for some of you to believe but you have to still consider it as a possibility. Once again, not taking sides but only pointing what out could have happened. Just like how I pointed how why dooglus might have escrowed for himself when QS bought it up. I understand what you wanted to say, but another valid question is: Why did Quickseller stage his fake ban? It was not necessary in my opinion, and for this reason I can't trust him. |
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I think (even) if he wants to come back and regret... he can't, because the 'shame' will be enormous.
This part seems true, and it is unfortunate. I tried to get QS to resolve this with me quietly nearly two months ago via PM. The idea was that perhaps if we talked in private we could figure out how to get along and he could remove his attacks without "losing face", as the expression goes. Unfortunately, he merely restarted his false accusations in his usual inimitable style "you are a scammer, I know this". And then wouldn't reply when I asked him to explain to me, in private, how it is that he thinks he knows so much about a situation he wasn't even present for. After waiting a week and a half for a reply, I had to go back to the only other recourse, asking in public. I really never expected him to keep doubling-down on the stakes like this. It really seems like each time he's backed into a corner with people saying "QS, why don't you drop this", he brings in a new account to sockpuppet and distract. He's sorta going crazy with it at the moment, you can see that he's posted nearly two pages quoted walls of nonsense, off-topic, randomness into this thread using at least three accounts ("QS_banned"? what is that about?!) in just the last 24 hours. I also would have never predicted that he would involve the alts that he's using for his escrow-scam-trading into this clearly personal grudge. That is, it seems that no one would have ever known that panthers52 was his alt, and the was trading with it using himself as escrow if he hadn't pulled it into this wild-ass saga. Alas, what do we do now? I admit, I find it hard to believe that he's trusted by anyone with a reasonable head on their shoulders after all these stunts. As redsn0w says, it seems he's intent on "going down with the ship" like some sorta old sea captain. QS, I know it would be hard, but it would demonstrate actual character at this point, you could go ahead and right your wrongs here rather than continuing to double-down. You can remove the sockpuppet ratings from troll account FunFunnyFan, you can delete your negative feedback on me which is merely an echo of long-discredited scammer TradeFortress and then go about trying to repair your reputation with respect to your shady trading practices. When the house is on fire, it's time to leave the house, don't keep throwing wood on it. So at the end he doesn't want to change or remove the negative trust and 'clarify' everything, why? Because the shame will be enormous... like I said previously (and I don't know if the community will 'trust' Quickseller again). |
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Quickseller removed from the DefaultrTrust list (Depth 2)? Hmm.... really interesting, this is the second time (if I'm not wrong).
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.... While yes, 0.001 is closer to .01 then .5 is, however this is generally not the way that people will speak/argue a point, so I think it is reasonable to say that tspacepilot was admitting to stealing at least .01, but was only willing to repay .001 (which is 10% of the amount stolen).
At no point has tsp admitted to stealing anything. I think you have repeatedly demonstrated that you have little to no grasp of the concept of what is "reasonable". I think (even) if he wants to come back and regret... he can't, because the 'shame' will be enormous. |
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What if Quickseller is not Panthers52? *and all this situation is for bring or catch more attention by the community...
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This must be the fakest pump i've seen yet.
Timing looks right to me. I'd say 350 by the end of the year, and I think 1163 by the end of 2016 If/when the blocksize debate is over, last Silk Road coin auction is done, then timing will look right to me too. At least we passed the previous high on 28th of august, by no less than a full dollar to be precise. We are going back to the 'origins'. |
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Why Quickseller haven't made any reply?  We don't know why... but he did have the time to make a post from 'his alt account' QS banned and it seems he can't make a post from his main account. https://archive.is/vK8SB |
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I don't think there is any rule against making these kinds of posts.
Well, depends on interpretation. You can be excused of breaking the rule thrice. Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.025. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e] 25. If you get banned (temporary or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban. But, there is a disclaimer: (this is probably the only thing that defends your case) NOTE: This is meant to serve as a reference/educational/informational thread, NOT a rock solid list of rules. My interpretation is the rule was created so that a banned user cannot do anything, but still retain the right to question the reason of the ban, etc. and discuss it, etc. That would mean you shouldn't have posted those 3 posts, esp. the scam accusation ones, unless may be you have clarified it already with mods or admins? You are thinking in a correct way, the banned users don't have the right to post in the forum (but only to ask about their ban). Now I don't know if Quickseller was really banned.... |
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[...] It seems to me that it is better to give ratings based on evidence than on heresay, which is what I did.
Fantastic (and correct) sentence, this is the proper function of the trust system. |
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Good job @tspacepilot  , thanks for the analysis. Now everyone of us can search and compare the results. PS: I'm still thinking that you don't deserve the negative trust for a fact 'accomplished' few years ago, even a neutral trust. |
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Vi segnalo questo, + un wallet online o tramite app
regala 0,002 (sono un pà pochi ma meglio di niente) per iscriversi (basta email e password) e poi si scrive nel thread, me li ha mandati subito e li ho subito prelevati
Ti sei dimenticato di lasciare il link ! |
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