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1921  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: -=Bitkonan.com Bitcoin Mjenjačnica -=-BTC & LTC Exchange=- on: November 13, 2017, 08:29:53 PM
Možda bi bilo dobro ako ste u mogućnosti da korisnik bira koliki će fee platiti?
Obično plaćam oko pola mbtc ako mi nije hitno, s time da možete ostaviti preporučeni fee na 0.001 btc.
Ovako je jeftinije da preporučim ljudima kupnju preko Coinbasea nego BitKonana  Cry

neznam kako im transakcije prolaze ako stave tako mali fee
nama je prosjek fee koji placamo zadnja 3 dana 0,00167...i ako ovako stanje potraje morat cemo dignuti fee

Dobro jbg, sad ste u pravu Cheesy

Više ne prolaze, sada je fee obavezno iznad 1 mbtc
1922  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Jugoslovenian Dinara Tokenization on: November 13, 2017, 08:23:55 PM
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Neefikasne tvornice, obrađivanje njiva sa kašikama? Ko ti je napunio glavu s tim glupostima?
Činjenice.

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Znači nije bolje nego je isto kako je i bilo u jugoslaviji?

Ti tvrdiš da je onda bilo bolje Smiley

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Koja je korist od auta koji si može samo todorić priuštiti?
Yugo su svi mogli priuštiti.

Imamo li danas više auta po glavi stanovnika ili smo onda imali? Smiley

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Znači ipak se slažeš da se u jugoslaviji proizvodilo a u hrvatskoj ne?
Privatni sektor ili ne je zapravo nebitna stavka ako ljudi nemaju gdje raditi

I u Venezueli su svi zaposleni u državi Smiley
Tamo se proizvodi.

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Prosječna plaća nije realna slika.
Na jednu plaću od 15000 kuna i 5 plaća od 3000 kuna prosjek je 5000 kuna  Wink
Pa eto, plati 1500 najam stana, 1000 kuna režije, za 500 kuna si napuni frižider a za ostatak kupi usisavač  Grin

I vidi čuda, imam usisavač i najam i režije i pun frižider od jedne plaće, a ne kao u Yugi za 3 Cheesy

Nije mi jasno kako je rasprava o nekoj novoj ''valuti'' se pretvorila u raspravu o životu u nekadašnjoj bivšoj državi.
Ne vidim nikakvu poveznicu između ove 2 stvari.
Predlažem pokretaču teme da je zatvori, jer je rasprava ''odlutala'' daleko od onoga što je on vjerojatno htio postići, okupiti zainteresirane za pokretanje nove valute.

Lijepo.
Bitcoin predstavlja slobodnu trgovinu, tržište, kapitalizam, dobrovoljne ugovore među pojedincima.
Jugoslavija je sušta suprotnost svemu što bitcoin predstavlja i jugonostalgija ovdje nema mjesta (bez kritike) [jer imamo slobodu govora Smiley ]
1923  Economy / Lending / 2000$ PayPal loan --> Bitcoin collateral on: November 13, 2017, 08:08:24 PM
I have recently found a seller that sells cheap quality refurbished phones, and I sell them at x1.5 profit locally.

I have a plan of bulk purchasing around 10 phones, setting up a local website on it, marketing it and selling the phones.

I bought a test purchase of 2 phones for 150$ and already have them reserved for 230$

I'm very suspicious of the seller staying around at these prices because it's a fucking good deal and I don't want to miss it  Cheesy

Basically it would be around 1500$ of expenses on the phones + 500$ on marketing

I need PayPal $$$
I'll provide 130% collateral in BTC with a trusted escrow service

Considering my trust score + me escrowing 1400 XMR for Crypto Kingdom [for a couple of months already] (around 28BTC), and the collateral escrowed by a trusted 3rd party (2/3 lockbox) I think I deserve low interest rates  Cheesy

So, if anyone could provide a 2000$ PayPal loan, I'd take it if I got low rates for the payback.

5% a month (FIAT, it is PayPal)
If for some reason I'm not able to pay it back through PayPal for a maximum of 2 months, I will pay the loan back with my BTC.
1924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports betting tips by iluvbitcoins! +1.1681BTC! on: November 12, 2017, 11:41:11 PM
Tournament: ATP World Tour Finals
Match: Dominic Thiem v Grigor Dimitrov
Dominic Thiem +2.5 (Games Handicap)
Odds: 2.06 Pinnacle, 18bet 2.05 5Dimes, Unibet
Units: 1

Tournament: ATP World Tour Finals
Match: Rafael Nadal v David Goffin
David Goffin +1.5 (Set Handicap)
Odds: 2.11 Pinnacle Sports 2.10 @ Paddy Power, Betfair SB
Units: 1
1925  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Jugoslovenian Dinara Tokenization on: November 12, 2017, 07:43:03 PM
Kako glupa argumentacija Cheesy

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Krajnje desničarske novine a kao i većina novina služe za manipulaciju ljudima i ispiranje mozga.

INDEX su krajnje desničarske novine?  Shocked

http://www.index.hr/black/clanak/mrtvaci-uzivo-katolicke-nekrofilske-orgije-su-najludji-show-na-hrtu/886983.aspx
http://novilist.hr/Vijesti/Hrvatska/Zbog-ilustracije-sa-sahovnicom-u-obliku-svastike-osnivac-Indexa-Matija-Babic-zavrsio-u-policiji

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Znači svi su radili i imali posao.

Od 200 maraka u krajnje neefikasnim i glomaznim pogonima.

Možemo i mi sada (ostvarivo je) zabraniti traktore i lopate, i dati ljudima da s kašikama kopaju njive.
100% zaposlenost, jednako kao i u Jugoslaviji.

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Ljudi nisu bili bogati ali su imali dosta za pristojan život, nije bila borba kakva je sada da moraju raditi 2 posla ili bježati iz hrvatske.

Pristojan život = hrana i mlijeko. To imamo i danas.

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To je prosjek a ne stvarna situacija.
Još uvijek ima više ljudi koji rade za 400€ nego za 700+. A i tih 700€ je jako malo kad staviš na papir, s obzirom na cijene.

Znači da je u prosjeku onaj koji je radio u Njemačkoj zarađivao 10 puta više od radnika u Jugoslaviji.
Danas u prosjeku zarađuje malo više od 3 puta.

Kuće su se podizale od mjesečnih plaća u Njemačkoj.
1971. su doznake iz inozemstva od iseljenika činile 51% izvoza.

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Uostalom, zašto slavonci koji žive uz granicu idu u bosnu i srbiju u šoping? Zašto zagorci purgeri i ostali blizu slovenije idu u sloveniju u šoping? Po nove gume za aute?
Sigurno zato što nam je sad bolje

Zašto Jugoslaveni kupuju u Trstu? Sigurno zato što ime je bolje.

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A hoćeš reći da se sada ništa od ovog ne uzima na kredit ili na rate?
Pa ljudi kupuju na rate sve što je skuplje od 500 kuna.

500 kuna = Desetina prosječne plaće
Usisavač u Jugi = 3 plaće

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Koji auto hrvatska proizvodi?

Nismo u komunizmu da država nešto proizvodi, za proizvodnju je zadužen privatni sektor.
Uz socijalistički mentalitet i 70 godina socijalističke vlasti koja krade i ubija privatni sektor jasno da nema puno mazohista koji će otvarati nešto u RH da ga država i uhljebljeni socijalisti pljačkaju, tako da danas imamo jedan jedini auto u hrvatskom privatnom sektoru - Concept One.
1926  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Jugoslovenian Dinara Tokenization on: November 12, 2017, 04:03:58 PM
You just forgot to compare debt then and now. For all the luxuries that people have now price is too high and everybody has become a modern slave...

What luxuries were you able to afford in Yugoslavia?

Luxury to go to a free vacation to Goli otok if you said something wrong about the commies?  Smiley
1927  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Jugoslovenian Dinara Tokenization on: November 12, 2017, 03:24:42 PM
Leave the ghosts of past in history.
For a large number of people crypto currency with that name will be repulsive. For Croatia I estimate to 60% of the population.

I would call that a conservative estimation on country scale. But on the other hand it is probably lover for Croatians who are into crypto stuff. I have them pegged as younger generation with less memories about the whole unfortunate situation.
In Yugoslavia we had factories, money, cheap apartments, cars.
In Croatia we don't have factories, we don't have money, we have expensive apartments and cars, credits credits and more credits, people are leaving country because either they can't find job or they are working for peanuts.
Younger population is even worst because they are listening brainwashers on TV and they are acting like they have horse blinkers on their eyes and they can't see these facts.

I like OP's idea and nostalgia but i don't see how that crypto can succeed, there are thousands of altcoins and erc20 tokens with no real use.

Yeah, factories that were producing jack shit
http://www.index.hr/mobile/clanak.aspx?category=Vijesti&id=816851

Overemployment, 1/3 people weren't necessary
And salaries that were shit
People here worked for 200 German Marks, while in Germany they worked for 2000
Today we work for 700€ here and for 2000€ in Germany

My parents paid 10 monthly salaries to set up a bedroom, 10 for a VCR
My uncle had to get a loan to buy a fucking vacuum cleaner (3 salaries), cars = Yugo and Zastava  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Yugoslavia was jack shit, you just weren't allowed to talk about how shitty it is so there's a myth about how good it was to pay 3 monthly salaries for a vacuum cleaner while driving a Yugo and telling yourself how good you have it going.
1928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports betting tips by iluvbitcoins! +1.1681BTC! on: November 11, 2017, 12:26:29 AM
Tournament: WTA Hua Hin - SF
Match: Belinda Bencic v Ana Bogdan
Ana Bogdan (Match Winner)
Odds: 3.20 Bethard 3.14 Pinnacle, 5Dimes
Units: 1

Tournament: WTA Limoges - SF
Match: Sabine Lisicki v Antonia Lottner
Antonia Lottner (Match Winner)
Odds: 2.95 Bethard 2.86 5Dimes, Marathonbet
Units: 2
1929  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Jugoslovenian Dinara Tokenization on: November 11, 2017, 12:21:57 AM
Leave the ghosts of past in history.
For a large number of people crypto currency with that name will be repulsive. For Croatia I estimate to 60% of the population.

I would call that a conservative estimation on country scale. But on the other hand it is probably lover for Croatians who are into crypto stuff. I have them pegged as younger generation with less memories about the whole unfortunate situation.

That's a wrong assumption.

Crypto users tend to be more into freedom, capitalism and free contracts among individuals.
Bitcoin users have the highest rate of libertarians than I have seen in any other group.

There will actually be more people in crypto who hate Tito than in the physical world.

Fuck Tito.
Fuck communism.
Fuck theft.

Get a job.
Work.

Don't steal.
1930  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Jugoslovenian Dinara Tokenization on: November 10, 2017, 08:20:55 PM
Is it going to have a 60% yearly inflation rate?
1931  Economy / Gambling / Re: Nitrogen Sports ⚽ SCORE 0.05 BTC Free Bet 🏆 WORLD CUP ⚽ The Future of Betting on: November 10, 2017, 07:51:03 PM
Hello Nitrogen!

I see on your title "0.05 BTC Free bet".
Of course I'm interested, free bets are always cool. But when I login on the site I don't see anything about it. There is no news on the home page.
Is it only for new accounts? Or is anyone eligible and if yes how can I get more informations on it?

Thanks!!!

Yeah, I'm also wondering about this.
Would be nice to figure out how to obtain this  Cheesy
1932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports betting tips by iluvbitcoins! +1.1681BTC! on: November 10, 2017, 01:01:47 PM
Croatia v Greece
0-0 at Half Time (or Under 0.5 goals 1st half)
Odds: 2.70 with BetVictor, 2.65 with Coolbet, 2.62 with WilliamHill
Units: 2

Loss: 2 Units

Tournament: WTA Hua Hin - R16
Match: Ying-Ying Duan v Varatchaya Wongteanchai
Varatchaya Wongteanchai (Match Winner)
Odds: 4.00 Betfair Exchange 3.90 @ Pinnacle, Marathonbet
Units: 1

Loss: 1 Unit

Tournament: WTA Limoges - R16
Match: Sabine Lisicki v Olga Danilovic
Olga Danilovic 2-0 (Set Betting)
Odds: 5.50 @ Betfair Exchange,10Bet, SportPesa
Units: 3

Loss: 3 Units

Total loss: 6 Units
Total thread profit: 1.0898BTC
1933  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: November 10, 2017, 12:45:27 PM
Maybe it would be worth it contacting this website?
https://www.bestbitcoinpoker.org/

It ranks first on bitcoin poker google search and lists FJ with a scam warning
Source is this :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1008112.0
http://bitcoin4all.net/index.php?topic=38183.0

lol, absolutely not worth anything

And this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2vrzfq/psa_about_fortunejack_the_btc_gaming_site/

Which you have solved, and it's visible in the comments
Might be worth it to contact bestbitcoinpoker since there's some organic traffic being lost right there.

Hi iluvbitcoins, we are absolutely aware of this cases and working to improve it. We are trying to contact bestbitcoinpoker, but having no answer literary. Maybe I can ask our bitcointalk community for assistance? we will highly appreciate if you have any contact details of the manager of this website.

Not really.
This is the only contact I found elmar.koberg@gmx.ch
But I believe you have found that one too if you tried contacting them :/
EDIT:
Actually, there's a phone number, I'll send it to you via PM.
1934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CryptoKingdom Uncensored on: November 10, 2017, 12:40:28 PM
Just to update you guys, PJ is not responding to any of my Slack messeges about the token.

Speed has responded to me almost instantly on my question "Any updates?"
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I should have something by the end of the week hopefully, talking with 2 good candidates, met with them physically this weekend.

CK is yet to rise from ashes Smiley
1935  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io 💰 Weekly offers! ⚽ on: November 10, 2017, 12:38:06 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but dont a lot of bitcoin sportsbooks have the exact same license?  What makes sportsbet any different from the plethora of others?
Also, sportsbet is one of the only sportsbooks that restrict certain jurisdictions.  They do this, I am assuming, to stay in accordance with laws and regulations...
I don't think they are in any violation whatsoever and if they are, theyre doing a damn good job at coveting it up  Roll Eyes  
Did you check the licenses of bitcoin sportsbooks?

There are surely several bitcoin sportsbooks that operate without a license and in my opinion the problem is not if a sportsbook operates without a license like NitrogenSports.

The problem is if a sportsbook like sportsbet.io falsely claims to have a license and are authorized and regulated by the Government of Curacao. Sportsbet also uses non-existing regulations as an excusation to ask for KYC when bettors want to withdraw their balance and then confiscate the balances!

I have never heard that NitrogenSports confiscated balances based on non-existing regulations!

Even the Public Prosecutor’s Office Curacao confirms that online games of chance are not regulated:

Quote from: Public Prosecutor's Office
At the moment, brick and mortar casinos and lotteries are regulated by two dfferent organizations, whereas online games of chance are yet to be regulated in anticipation of legislation.


Fuck licenses.
BTC is about freedom, not about regulation.

Since directbet has closed, I use sportsbet all the time.
Deposits,withdrawals are pretty fast, just the site itself is kinda slow..

It is a well known issue at sportsbet, I feel the same when I'm accessing sportsbet with my mobile phone but it is better when I use PC. Other good things aside fast deposit and withdrawal are about the regular promos, many available markets to bet, and helpful live supports (although some time the live support is a bit slow).


I haven't noticed it's slow yet, I did have problems with some leagues refusing to load at all.
Don't forget good odds too.
1936  Economy / Gambling / Re: FAIRLAY - SPORTS BETTING for experts - highest liquidity, provably best odds on: November 10, 2017, 12:29:35 PM
Hello,
it's not that simple... they do not answer to me from several months... they think the case is over - they collected nice amount and do not reply to me anymore... it's not about camera... they wanted "prove of source funds" in 1 of my 1000? bitcoin addresses which is impossible to give... they made xx excuses to not pay me and think that I will not fight for my money. DO NOT PLAY HERE!!!!  IMO THEY WILL STOP BUSINESS SOON AND RUN OUT WITH ALL THE MONEY !!!

Start a scam accusation thread here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

List all the proof and details you have of your claim and certainly it won't take long until they get red tags from DT members
This will be a big impact on their business and you'll probably get your withdrawal.
1937  Economy / Gambling / Re: BTCHEAT.COM IS ONLY A HOAX? on: November 10, 2017, 12:22:06 PM
I legitimately thought it was bitcoin cheat at first  Cheesy Cheesy
It kinda is though xD

It  is scam until now because when you reach near the minnimum ammount , it doesnt let you win often. I am curious to see what happen if someone reach the minnimum ammount.

there's a youtube video whre he cashes out his earnings when he reached 0.03 btc

Not anymore. A friend of mine still believes he can make it to the withdrawal minimum although I have warned him several times that this is a scam. Lately he too is convinced that it is a scam. He told me 7000 spins and not a single win and he is reaching payout almost. So stop wasting your time on this site. The owner is making money by using the CPU-s of many persons and not giving them wins for spins. He is the only one who is profiting.

Just let him waste time, it's good when people learn about scams on their own, especially when they don't deposit any funds.
It will save him from a scam in the future.
1938  Economy / Gambling / Re: How can verify my bet on SatoshiDICE? on: November 10, 2017, 12:17:28 PM
https://satoshidice.com/provablyfair

I try check it..
Nov 9, 2017  
SERVER SEED HASH: a644b5d96842429c44ebc7def5fc943c81c2d1cd2616b864392b512f2577dd93  
SERVER SEED PLAINTEXT: aa5f24274c3023aa9902eb7c6c5426309e6e7b9761531e34303fcdf305390f0a

I try many times get SERVER SEED HASH of SERVER SEED PLAINTEXT... nothing..

Who can explain?

I don't understand what exactly are you trying to do?
If you're trying to verify your own bet.

You can use this
https://dicesites.com/provably-fair

You'll need the server roll, client roll and salt on top of the server seed hash and plaintext.
1939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports betting tips by iluvbitcoins! +1.1681BTC! on: November 10, 2017, 12:15:07 PM
Hi sir, i just want to wish free bets for NBA regular season for next day can you share you though about game for tomorrow? I am pleasure to follow your free bets thanks and more power.

I don't have anything for tommorow, but in the next couple of days I will be posting some NBA predictions.
1940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A NEW Game Starts Soon on: November 10, 2017, 12:13:23 PM
What the hell are you talking about?  Cheesy
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