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19521  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is missing in the Bitcoin EcoSystem? on: December 12, 2016, 07:54:31 PM
if you want some idea's to expand bitcoin

Drop-shipping.
   expand retail<->bitcoin
manufacturing.
   hardware wallets with NFC that take in a tx via NFC and send out via NFC a signed tx in seconds
   bitcoin novelty gifts
   list goes on
local exchanges
meetups/conferences
jobs
   real jobs paid in bitcoin

19522  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is missing in the Bitcoin EcoSystem? on: December 12, 2016, 07:45:23 PM
franky1

Am I right in thinking that you're suggesting that Bitcoin is TOO much 'on the internet', and the thing missing is the tangible, human aspect to it... a face? Isn't there enough information online to get people started with using Bitcoin?

Some of the 'real world' suggestions you made are projects that either have been made or are in the process of developing/ like the easy to use wallets ie. AitBitz and others. There's BitPay and ShapeShift for accepting payments etc.

I guess my thoughts are along the lines of... is there something else? Maybe along the lines of Steem? Steemit is a bit of a microtopia but its success seems to be more based on its merit rather than support for the ideology behind it/ or wide spread adoption of its token(s).


my thoughts are that bitcoin is too much on this forum..
its turned into a circle jerk affair. to learn bitcoin you go to this forum, to start earning bitcoin you go to this forum, yes there are other places like reddit and other services. but this forum seems to have turned too inward and only stirring its own pot.

imagine this forum like an island. instead of getting the inhabitants to go out and explore the world, they are directing new people to the island and hope they stay in the island and trade on the island.

not much has been done since id say 2015 to get people to do some real world stuff.. all the stuff i have seen in the real world of 2016 looks like the same idea's of 2012-2014. when i was highly involved to getting the message out.

i have shot down many scammers and tried to look at business idea's people come up with. but lately all i see is demotivated culdron stiring  attempts of peoples gread of just trying to make money from eachother inside these forums. instead of expanding and exciting the real world.

it just seems like things have stagnated and just turned away from a 'revolutionary currency' and just into a who's got the biggest **** 'club'

new idea's only seem to end up being scams and anything to grow utility get pushed aside unless a banker paid dev is at the lead of designing it.

yes we need more concepts and utilities and less sheep following one direction that ends up just circling itself
19523  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Giving up on Bitcoin... on: December 12, 2016, 07:31:50 PM
the price is meaningless..

if there are 16m coins.. but imagine only 5 coins on an exchange being swapped between 10 people.. those 5 coins dictate the price of the whole 16mill coins without involving the 16m coins.

basing bitcoins economy, bitcoins utility and bitcoins society on an exchange price is flawed.
infact in the last 12 month people have noticed real world inflation where a loaf of bread has jumped more than 20%

last year i could buy 2litres(4pints) of milk for £1. now the same shop sells it for £1.45
last year a loaf of bread was 50p (cheap ownbrand) now its 80p. major brand went from £1 to £1.50
yea they do deals for 2for£2 to hide the increase or help people get used to the increase by making them buy double to 'save'. but the reality is inflation has hit people pockets

so seeing bitcoin go from $650 to $770 is not a shock.. its basically means i can still buy the same amount of loaves of bread as last year.

also the amount of coins on an exchange has DROPPED. less people are confident about exchanges so we are not seeing millions of coins held on exchanges like in 2013.. now its just a couple hundred thousand. usually some are only hoarding 50k of customers coins. so again the bitcoin price vs the economy are not correlating in any way to suggest the economy/society/utility is growing
19524  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: HELP ME REVEAL MY ENCRYPTED PRIVATE KEYS FOR A REWARD on: December 12, 2016, 07:13:58 PM
seems you can manually decrypt it using their script. though strongcoin seems to have dropped its own blog/support. google seems to note other locations to download the script

have a read of one good result i found in 20 seconds.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jobs4Bitcoins/comments/1diadj/hiring_explain_to_me_how_to_use_command_line_to/

basically it says download the script.
save the ENTIRE 'signature' (the one you mentioned earlier starting and ending: U2Fsd...PbjKQ=) to a txt file called key.txt
then run the command
    openssl enc -d -aes-256-cbc -in key.txt -a -k password

Where you substitute the 'password' at the end of the line for the password you want to try.

seems it worked for that person but i have not personally checked it myself nor do i require any funds if it is the solution. just hope it helps
19525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is missing in the Bitcoin EcoSystem? on: December 12, 2016, 06:59:56 PM
many noobs think the only way to get bitcoin is to:
* run a ponzi and scam people
* raid faucets
* signature campaigns

many noobs do not see the bitcoin economy in the real world outside of this forum.
this forum has become its own culdron of inner sanctuary. where people are just stirring things within the forum. trading, advertising, speculating, etc.

we need to expand peoples minds outside of this forum. to do some real world stuff.
EG
* real jobs paid in bitcoin.
* local conferences and meetups
* merchant adoption
* user friendly wallets (NFC/username) instead of public key/QR code

bitcoin can expand in many ways but it is starting to turn into segmented boysclubs like some ganglands where there are borders and fights if one side steps into another sides line.

each town/city should have its own 'information centre' for meetups/exchanges conferences and just general info.
each town/city should have some advocates that help raise awareness and help businesses start up by finding the right people for the right roles to help the economy grow.
19526  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Let's be honest, how many of you here actaully read the whitepaper? on: December 12, 2016, 03:11:23 AM
i have read it. but although outdated in some of its terms, some dev's use it when they want to then go against it when the want to. thus rendering the whitepaper useless

its better to know the ethos of bitcoin

EG
"A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a
financial institution."

"but the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending.We propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer network. The network timestamps transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without redoing the proof-of-work"

which "hubs" (LN) should not be the direction as the end goal of bitcoin. because these hubs become the next generation of 'trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending'. rather then relying on the security of PoW for each transaction.

ofcourse have it as a side feature. but not the end goal by pricing people out of using the onchain peer-to-peer PoW mechanism. or hindering the onchain peer-to-peer PoW mechanism to sway people into accepting hubs as the only utility.
19527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coin Collections will become more valueble when Bitcoin replace Fiat currencies on: December 11, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
I think the complete opposite would happen if Bitcoin replaced fiat which won't happen anyways as already noted above. Because when fiat is replaced by digital money the physical money would become obsolete and thus worthless. Their value from a collector's point of view will plummet because there would be no interest in keeping such outdated artifacts any more.

banknotes and legal tender coins (nickels dimes, cents, 20p pieces and pennies) will be useless..
but asset collectables (1ounce gold coins) will have a place.

it wont be a big place. but will see growth of utility. just like bitcoin.

not due to bitcoin being a one world currency. but because fiat becomes hyper inflated and people are peed off with having to work an hours labour and have their wife stood at a grocery aisle to spend it before the hyper inflated fiat the guy worked an hour to earn is not worth a loaf a bread.

people will still be in the majority forced to work for fiat due to legal tender laws of tax/minimum wage etc. but they will convert it to more stable currency for long term handling.

again not everyone will do it. and bitcoin/gold wont replace fiat. but it will become a open choice to swap into

19528  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coin Collections will become more valueble when Bitcoin replace Fiat currencies on: December 11, 2016, 04:12:12 PM
while we move into the electronic only society.. people will still want something in their sole control. especially during a hyper inflation rally. they wont put 100% trust in middlemen authorised payment systems that limit their access or charge them fee's just to use their own earnings
19529  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If satoshi had a premine on: December 11, 2016, 03:05:38 PM

and since they created this forum, shouldnt the ANN be here somewhere?
No, lol.

Just lock this thread.
This whole forum was an announcement thread of Bitcoin.

And I agree  lock this thread. There is nothing you can add to this discussion.

this forum was created 10 months after bitcoin was running. yet many people were talking and bitcoin was open from day 0.. just not here..
stackexchange cypherpunks, sourceforge, mailing lists, IRC were the older communication outlets. this forum didnt even conceive the term "ANN" until the crap coins and pump and dump coins of 2013+
19530  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If satoshi had a premine on: December 11, 2016, 03:02:34 PM
Where is the address satoshi owns with the 1 million btc?

I dont think that there is an actual address, i think it is if you add up all the suspected satoshi addresses it comes to a million.

Oh. Do we know of any big addresses supposedly belonging to him?

satoshi didnt hoard all the coins in a single address. each reward went to a separate address.
also people have done analysis on the data and within hours other people where mining alongside satoshi.

the whole 'satoshi is not one man' old debate is due to that analysis wrongly interpretted. satoshi was one person but satoshi didnt work alone. other people helped but none of them shared the 'satoshi' pseudonym.

halfinney, Serius-m, and many more were there in the early days. all under their own pseudonyms.

all of this info can be found using the wiki, google tools
19531  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coin Collections will become more valueble when Bitcoin replace Fiat currencies on: December 11, 2016, 02:37:02 PM
bitcoin wont "replace" fiat.

fiat will exist due to minimum wage, legal tender, taxation, fines and duties laws. keeping fiat in circulation.
bitcoin will become a popular alternative.
but dont think bitcoin will become the only 'one world' currency to pay for every countries public services and civil servants/bureaucrats excessive salary.

bitcoin will be an open choice. not the only choice.

however while fiat hyper inflates (unrelated to bitcoin specifically but due to failings of fiat itself) yes people will realise hoarding assets its better. whether its bitcoin or collectable precious metals/gemstones
19532  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Coin Collections will become more valueble when Bitcoin replace Fiat currencies on: December 11, 2016, 02:23:01 PM
(if we exclude numismatic value from consideration, of course)...

hmm 2 random people suddenly pull the same buzzword out of their hat within 3 minutes of each other..

that have not been regular words used on this forum in the past. ok.. more than a coincidence
19533  Economy / Speculation / Re: why WSJ report about Bitcoin's Price high has little effect on price? on: December 09, 2016, 10:54:38 PM
Marketcap is large now, one news article doesn't move the price as easily as it used to.

Marketcap is still tiny if you put it in context with other businesses, currencies etc. But yeah I guess that it's now big enough that a single article can't do much, but ironically the price has been rising again in past hours and we are sitting at 770+. We are only a few dollars away to challenge again the 778 peak of the other day which I think we are going to pass soon.

market cap?
lol

guys come on wake up

the 16million coins are not all loaded onto exchanges.
the truth is unlike say 2013 where well over 1million coins of 12million coins were loaded onto the main exchange (mtgox)

now only a couple hundred thousand coins at most are loaded onto any exchange at any time. yea it may total over 1mill coins combined. but dont pretend the whole 16m of coins are inplay directly affecting the exchange price.

media news doesnt really affect price anymore. its more about the whim of those running bots and those with just enough coin to create resistance walls or 'whale' orders..
19534  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin v Tax on: December 09, 2016, 03:58:33 PM
How long do you think, will Bitcoin be allowed to go unregulated, if nobody paid taxes whilst using it? The government has to take their cut, so

we should all just pay the taxes and move on with our lives. We can chose not to pay the taxes and then bend over to strict regulations or

even a full blanket ban from the governments.... OR we can pay the taxes and have a little bit of freedom, like we now have with cash.  Roll Eyes

maybe you need to learn about taxes.
EG when someone travels the world and gets paid in many foreign currencies. when they hold shares in a company.

then apply that same logic about say holdings of no dollars eg having offshore accounts while being american will clarify things for you
19535  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Bitcoin v Tax on: December 09, 2016, 03:11:56 PM
they cant tax bitcoin.

however they can:
see your fiat withdrawals. and if they are valued above what they have logged as your income. they will question it
see what car/house/assets you have, and if assets are valued above what they have logged as your income. they will question it

so when you 'cash out'
so when a disgruntled/jealous neighbour questions your new car and you have the feeling they will 'grass' you in.

expect to get a tax form through the post and pay tax on the fiat you got.
19536  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I would like to understand something basic about TREZOR on: December 09, 2016, 12:29:59 PM
TREZOR itself is not really a wallet as you know it from say electrum or multibit.

It is a device that stores the private key outisde of your computer in a way that the private key itself is never send outisde of the device. This way, even if there is malware on your pc, they will never have access to the private key.

In addition, there is a pin on the device with a scrambled keypad that changes every time, making software that tracks your screen unable to tell what your pin is.

I think TREZOR are perfect for people that want to safely store their coins on an online pc AND want the convenience of being able to spend them without too much hassle.

it is a wallet.
a wallet just stores the privkey.. EG paperwallet.
the misconception is the wallet need to be the program.. but a wallet, just like that leather thing in your back pocket just stores the access to funds.(privkeys)
a wallet is just not a LITENODE like electrum/multibit which is a program that communicates AND has a wallet.

did you know core 0.13.1 is a full NODE, yet doesnt have the segwit wallet enabled.
inshort this means it doesnt let users make segwit keys. thus while segwit is not yet 'on the network' people cannot accidently make a segwit transaction which is deemed 'anyonecanspend' at the moment. core will release a new node implementation 'when they are happy' after activation that does include a functional segwit wallet (inshort able store of segwit keys)

as many have said in the past. bitcoin wallets doesnt store funds, so 'wallet' is a bad buzzword anyway. it should have always been called (for analogy purposes).. a keyring, you know the hoop of metal which 'secures and keeps keys together'
19537  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I would like to understand something basic about TREZOR on: December 09, 2016, 12:24:38 PM
i agree although trezor is a hardware wallet. to get full functionality you need browser add-ons and connect via their server. (facepalm to obvious trojan/hack weakness via phishing sites and hijacked add-ons) though you can link it to other desktop wallets like multibit, etc. but still..

I am now beginning to think my cheap home made "hardware wallet" is more secure than Trezor. I installed Tails Linux in a USB, enabled persistence and I am using an Electrum wallet that came preinstalled. All traffic goes thru Tor so it is good for anonymity and I never use it except as a Bitcoin wallet.

if electrum is running within the linux environment, within the USB drive and nothing is required by your main computer to be installed then indeed you have made it more secure. just still watch out for anything getting downloaded to your usb stick, like an electrum update. (which could be a trojan risk to prompt you to type in/import your privkey)

though you may have other reasons to enable persistence. this feature can allow data on the drive to be added. its not like an ISO that stays fixed
19538  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any One From USA here? on: December 09, 2016, 04:30:27 AM
a zero activity user mentioning an exploit.

let me guess
1. download virus promising double income
2. send $$$$ via walmart to MR no activity scammer
3. wait a few days then cry your funds are gone
19539  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone know the Bitcoin blockchain growth rate? on: December 09, 2016, 04:07:34 AM
Edit: I just checked my node stats. It's been up for ~12 hours and I have already sent 37 GB and received 147 MB.

people with crappy ISP that put bandwidth limitations in. means you just reduce the number of nodes you connect to
if x is a problem for you. you change Y.
demanding to be a supernode knowing you have bandwidth issues, means you should lower your outbound connections.

much like torrent. dont blame pirate bay or utorrent or the size of the file your downloading. blame the leachers connected to you. and reduce the number of leachers you are giving data to

19540  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Good interview with the CEO of Marinea on Liberty Talk Radio on: December 09, 2016, 01:15:33 AM
ha ha ha

seems nothing has been learned.
1. SEWERAGE is going to be the big killer of any application to build a seastead in the area this seastead has in mind. (hint: nature reserve)
2. as for farming. the amount of space needed to farm is MORE than living space. i dont think they even thought about the size needed
3. capacity. they want a community but not even thought about parts 1 and 2 to even come to an idea of how many people can live on it.


lol he talking about shops, conference rooms, offices, living space.. but has nothing on paper..
the concept is VAPOUR dream after 3 years of discussing it. and all i end up seeing is they are only interested in investment without building the business plan or thinking beyond the utopia

oh.. and the barge for phase 1.. seems that he doesnt know anything.
at 32 minutes talks about how many people on board. "couple hundred people onboard"

HE WISHES
"this is out restaurant it will seat 50 guests"
as for the sleeping arrangements
14 guest rooms 2 VIP suites
which has been expanded a little, since then
Quote
14 large staterooms with full granite bathrooms and double queen beds
4 larger VIP staterooms with balcony access
1 massive “President’s Suite” of close to 1,500 sq feet of living space
Captain’s suite feature two rooms
5 upper deck crew rooms (currently single occupancy with individual bathrooms, can be set up bunk style for double occupancy)
13 lower deck crew rooms (currently single occupancy with individual bathrooms, can be set up bunk style for double occupancy

37 rooms for crew and guests

yea right "its gonna be your home, your living space"... nah, more like a tourist spot with a one night stay

2. its $25m and requires $5m maintenance. their $15m kickstarter wont cut it. it was funny last month i plucked out the $10mill number by deducting the $5m maintenance away from the kickstarter 'ask'.. and suddenly they started talking about the magic $10m as if what the barge can be bought for is $10m.. LOL

again before advertising the utopian dream learn the fundamental limitations
learn what your advertising

lastly.. lets test OP's knowledge.
can the OP name just call out the initials of first name and lastname of the barge's agent that the OP's project manager has talked to, just to see if the OP and his team have even had communications about the barge



its good to have a utopian dream but after 3 years all i see is vapour and no progress, and many inconsistances that show those wanting investment have no clue.
the funny thing. if there was a sound business plan. i would have invested (more then they think). but sorry. no cigar!
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