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19101  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I would like to understand something basic about TREZOR on: December 09, 2016, 12:24:38 PM
i agree although trezor is a hardware wallet. to get full functionality you need browser add-ons and connect via their server. (facepalm to obvious trojan/hack weakness via phishing sites and hijacked add-ons) though you can link it to other desktop wallets like multibit, etc. but still..

I am now beginning to think my cheap home made "hardware wallet" is more secure than Trezor. I installed Tails Linux in a USB, enabled persistence and I am using an Electrum wallet that came preinstalled. All traffic goes thru Tor so it is good for anonymity and I never use it except as a Bitcoin wallet.

if electrum is running within the linux environment, within the USB drive and nothing is required by your main computer to be installed then indeed you have made it more secure. just still watch out for anything getting downloaded to your usb stick, like an electrum update. (which could be a trojan risk to prompt you to type in/import your privkey)

though you may have other reasons to enable persistence. this feature can allow data on the drive to be added. its not like an ISO that stays fixed
19102  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any One From USA here? on: December 09, 2016, 04:30:27 AM
a zero activity user mentioning an exploit.

let me guess
1. download virus promising double income
2. send $$$$ via walmart to MR no activity scammer
3. wait a few days then cry your funds are gone
19103  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone know the Bitcoin blockchain growth rate? on: December 09, 2016, 04:07:34 AM
Edit: I just checked my node stats. It's been up for ~12 hours and I have already sent 37 GB and received 147 MB.

people with crappy ISP that put bandwidth limitations in. means you just reduce the number of nodes you connect to
if x is a problem for you. you change Y.
demanding to be a supernode knowing you have bandwidth issues, means you should lower your outbound connections.

much like torrent. dont blame pirate bay or utorrent or the size of the file your downloading. blame the leachers connected to you. and reduce the number of leachers you are giving data to

19104  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Good interview with the CEO of Marinea on Liberty Talk Radio on: December 09, 2016, 01:15:33 AM
ha ha ha

seems nothing has been learned.
1. SEWERAGE is going to be the big killer of any application to build a seastead in the area this seastead has in mind. (hint: nature reserve)
2. as for farming. the amount of space needed to farm is MORE than living space. i dont think they even thought about the size needed
3. capacity. they want a community but not even thought about parts 1 and 2 to even come to an idea of how many people can live on it.


lol he talking about shops, conference rooms, offices, living space.. but has nothing on paper..
the concept is VAPOUR dream after 3 years of discussing it. and all i end up seeing is they are only interested in investment without building the business plan or thinking beyond the utopia

oh.. and the barge for phase 1.. seems that he doesnt know anything.
at 32 minutes talks about how many people on board. "couple hundred people onboard"

HE WISHES
"this is out restaurant it will seat 50 guests"
as for the sleeping arrangements
14 guest rooms 2 VIP suites
which has been expanded a little, since then
Quote
14 large staterooms with full granite bathrooms and double queen beds
4 larger VIP staterooms with balcony access
1 massive “President’s Suite” of close to 1,500 sq feet of living space
Captain’s suite feature two rooms
5 upper deck crew rooms (currently single occupancy with individual bathrooms, can be set up bunk style for double occupancy)
13 lower deck crew rooms (currently single occupancy with individual bathrooms, can be set up bunk style for double occupancy

37 rooms for crew and guests

yea right "its gonna be your home, your living space"... nah, more like a tourist spot with a one night stay

2. its $25m and requires $5m maintenance. their $15m kickstarter wont cut it. it was funny last month i plucked out the $10mill number by deducting the $5m maintenance away from the kickstarter 'ask'.. and suddenly they started talking about the magic $10m as if what the barge can be bought for is $10m.. LOL

again before advertising the utopian dream learn the fundamental limitations
learn what your advertising

lastly.. lets test OP's knowledge.
can the OP name just call out the initials of first name and lastname of the barge's agent that the OP's project manager has talked to, just to see if the OP and his team have even had communications about the barge



its good to have a utopian dream but after 3 years all i see is vapour and no progress, and many inconsistances that show those wanting investment have no clue.
the funny thing. if there was a sound business plan. i would have invested (more then they think). but sorry. no cigar!
19105  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am sorry to say, Mike Hearn was right. on: December 08, 2016, 07:05:15 PM
You're the one outside of reality. There's is at least 1 known Segwit block on testnet that has >8000 TX. According to your invalid knowledge, it was created by magic since the limit is 4500TX. Roll Eyes

Magic 14.8 TPS: https://testnet.smartbit.com.au/block/0000000000000896420b918a83d05d028ad7d61aaab6d782f580f2d98984a392

thats an expectation with/near 100% segwit usage
thats an expectation with/near LEAN tx..

the reality is not everyone will do lean TX's
the reality is not everyone will do segwit TX's

so your overselling expectation instead of thinking of rational realistic

put it this way.. 2009-2016.. how many blocks actually achieved the expectation of 7tx/s

oh and here is another nugget. although bitcoin never even got to achieve 7tx/s (4500) in 7 years in any reasonable amount of blocks

the maths of compressed keys and lean tx was a 10tx MAX.. but like i said even 7tx/s(undersold) was a push to even dare try coming close to and never really seen as any real longterm actual utility.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Maximum_transaction_rate

so your 14tx/s example is not a realistic longterm actual utility. but an extreme theoretical based on 100% this 100% that.
however
the realistic is that segwits 4500(7tx/s) expectation is still pushing the boundary's of what we will actually get. but atleast its not overselling it like your trying.

in short. its far easier to say
"since 2009. we may actually see 4500 regularly after 2016 due to segwit, which we expected to get 7 years ago"

sidenote:
im still laughing at lauda's magic block
Inputs 9,124
Outputs 9,157
Transactions 8,885

how many times does lauda realistically thing we are going to see blocks with 97% of users not only using segwit. but also doing 1 in 1 out tx
19106  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am sorry to say, Mike Hearn was right. on: December 08, 2016, 06:15:08 PM
(remember 2009-2013 the ~4500tx 7tx/s hype... guess what 1mb base segwit only offers ~4500tx(if 100% of users use segwit)) thus not really growth.
No. If you're going to talk about theoretical limits such as the ~4500 TX @ 7 TPS, then Segwit offers ~14 TPS.

nope segwit does not.
stick to reality.

EG old expection of 100% lean tx is ~4500 TX @ 7 TPS
new expectation of 100% segwit usage using REALISTIC transactions is ~4500 TX @ 7 TPS

expectations and reality wont be ~4500 TX @ 7 TPS
19107  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SegWit must be stopped! on: December 08, 2016, 06:12:09 PM
segwit is not a solution. its just pushing the same stone down the road. while devs work on hyperledger (LN/sidechains)

back in 2009-2013 the community knew about the 7tx/s possibility of bitcoin. yep 4500tx back then.

and now if segwit activates and everyone uses it.. yep everyone.. the expectation... 4500tx 7tx/s
like i said it's not a solution. its just pushing the same stone down the road.
19108  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am sorry to say, Mike Hearn was right. on: December 08, 2016, 06:05:50 PM
Two years ago he threw a bitch fit and said if we don't increase blocksize, the network will die.  Now, Circle is taking their $138 million and leaving along with many, many others.  The congestion has jammed up the network and it is no longer useful.  While we still have our pure values of decentralization, we also have a dysfunctional system that no longer serves many of the original intents.  

We should go to 8MB today.  Keep building LN so we don't have to one day go to 16MB.  That way, all involved in making blockchain projects will stay with Bitcoin instead of running away to other FinTech like Jeremy Allaire.  

We CAN have it both ways!  8MB is the new 'small block'.

no

dynamic blocks are the only way. that way we are not getting spoonfed by devs every few years with new limits but instead letting the network naturally decide.

as for circle and hearn.. they along with blockstream are happy with hyperledger income and we have blockstream devs delaying scalability and just giving us spoonfuls of expectations
(remember 2009-2013 the ~4500tx 7tx/s hype... guess what 1mb base segwit only offers ~4500tx(if 100% of users use segwit)) thus not really growth. but instead going back to OLD expectations. pushing the same stone down the road

all thats left is for blockstream to give up the ruse and say 'thanks for the fish' before they publicise their hyperledger involvement
19109  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with lost bitcoins on: December 08, 2016, 05:55:43 PM
We all know that there can be no more than 21M bitcoins. We also know that every day some bitcoins get lost forever. That means that they still exist on the blockchain, but no one can access them since the keys are lost. I don't think that this is a right thing. We should recover these coins somehow, and that issue could be addressed eventually. I suggest setting a grace period of, say, ten years after which all wallets that remain untouched during that time and not reclaimed by anyone, should be declared as public property. The transactions that credited these bitcoins to such a wallet should be cancelled (just like correcting entries are made in a real ledger), and the coins should be moved to a new wallet, for example, to finance scientific research...

In this way, we will always have 21M bitcoins after the last bitcoin is mined and can also "resurrect" lost bitcoins for the common good
sorry but some people are hoarding.for god reason. be it pension. be it future inheritance for their kids.
but you seem to not care so:

ok. let me get your bank account and however much you deposited 10 years ago.. thats mine now
have any relatives that invested into gold and has sat in a vault 10 years ago.. thats mine now

Wait.. lets raid your pension pot because that is in an account for 40 years... thats mine now
wait. your grandma has a gold chain she left sat in her jewellry box.. thats all mine now

wait theres a house on a street in your name thats older than 10 years.. thats mine now

as for saying funds should go to "to finance scientific research..." LOL sorry but banks are happy to throw millions of dollars at blockstream, circle, bloq, blockchain.info .. they dont need to rip apart bitcoins immutability/fungibility to fund those 'research' businesses.

i do laugh at your 'research' word you threw in.. anyone can claim they are researchers and never have to produce results/products/services for such funding.

seriously flawed plan you have and this idea is not new.. many greedy a-holes have dreamed up a free pay day due to other peoples pension/investment/inheritance hoards.

no one should touch other people funds no matter how long its held. many people have put paper wallets in a 'time capsule' or a LastWill for their offspring. and it should stay with them

if you disagree.. then give all YOUR property/funds over 10 years old and practice what you preach by you being the first to hand over YOUR property.

lets see you backtrack and try to reword it to protect your own property/pension reserves from being handed out
19110  Economy / Exchanges / Re: HAS COINSBANK TAKEN ANYONE ELSES MONEY? on: December 08, 2016, 02:02:23 PM
looking at the site and right at the bottom is an address in scotland.
http://www.companieshousedata.co.uk/c/SL021888
which has over 1000 businesses registered to that address
http://www.companieshousedata.co.uk/a/300

seems they are registered at a dropbox(pobox/mail redirection service)
their belize address (1 orchid garden) also a po box/drop box
red flag!!

part of getting approval by government licences and stuff is not to have a drop box. but a real office address.
red flag!!

looking at the fincen MSB number.. thats not saying its licenced. its just showing they applied(initial registration).
red flag!!

also looking at previous posts of people talking about them and them talking about themself. i see more red flags

it could be that they are new and unprofessional and just making mistakes.. but for me i see too many red flags to 'trust' them

might be worth you looking into xbit (parent company) and getting more info
https://coinsbank.com/images/license/belize.jpg
https://coinsbank.com/images/license/msb.jpg

in short if you cannot find enough info to locate the real offices of a CEO of a company to throw a wet fish/court order at them.. dont throw money at them


19111  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So where is the Bitcache thing by KimDotcom on: December 08, 2016, 01:36:52 PM
im still wondering why people are getting excited about LN/bitcache..

do you guys know its just the same as using bitgo, or a multisig where one key of a 2of2 multisig is owned by kimdotcom.

LN and bitcache when you brush away all the buzzwords is not a permissionless system. bitcache and LN hubs become the bank/paypal 2.0 where the funds you deposit in then need their signature(authorisation) for you to move funds around.

its like having a joint bank account with someone you have never kissed or touched.

if you think dual signing with remote entity having 50% control is acceptable in exchange for speedy transactions. you might aswell stick with paypal/visa
19112  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The UK government view on distributed ledger technology on: December 08, 2016, 12:40:00 PM
I've started reading this government paper on distributed ledger technology. It's fairly meaty, and I'm not even half way through it, but I thought it was interesting. It could give some insights into future planning and products in the UK - Royal Mint Gold for example.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/492972/gs-16-1-distributed-ledger-technology.pdf


Wow its so cool. Though i do not fully understand the concept but what I like about distributed ledger is the movement of datas. I am working in a planning department and the difficulty we face all the time is the collection and consolidation of raw datas from other agencies. But this new technology the distributed ledger will allow any agency to access upated datas that are occuring from time to time. To the clients and citizens this will be the new face of transparency of records.

I salute this innovation, hope this also happen in my country so our work may focus on important planning details rather just wasting time on gathering datas which are already there.

transparency of records??
no

it is a better distribution of records for agencies but its all going to be locked within those agencies. meaning the UK HMRC (tax office) can se peoples 'accounts' passport office can see births, deaths and marriages records easily.
but citizens accessing it.. nope.
19113  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cirlce CEO blame openly bitcoin devs in WSJ on: December 08, 2016, 12:27:24 PM
he sounds like a crybaby who has failed in his business model, at least the part of business that was related to bitcoin and now he is blaming everyone who is remotely related to bitcoin for his failure.

and it surely is funny to see Circle like this, at this particular time when Coinbase is under magnifying glass by the IRS.

its partly because of the coinbase IRS issue.
the legal costs of protecting bitcoiners identity, when circles bitcoin 'income' is insignificant means its not financially viable to have bitcoin users.

so they are migrating circle bitcoin customers over to coinbase so that circle customers are managed by coinbase, due to coinbase being happy to manage them.

anyway circle is now working with hyperledger, along with blockstream, along with blockchain.info. and others. who are all happy to stall bitcoin. so just like hearn who a couple years ago announced bitcoin was stalled by his colleagues.. circle is saying the same thing.
its a message from the hyperledger(bankers) that bitcoin is being pushed aside, for their playform.

all that needs to be done now is blockstream fess-up and admit their involvement in hyperledger for people to realise all the stall tactics put against bitcoin
19114  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can my ISP tell that i am running a full node ? on: December 08, 2016, 12:23:37 PM
no need to watch data packets for specific ports and data sizes live while its being sent.

afterall ISP's are keeping metadata for years on every user(yea we know they keep more then just metadata, but shhh)
meta data is easy..
search keywords: "useragent satoshi"
search keywords: "useragent bitcoin"

Do you think ISPs could start ratting out Bitcoin users to the government? The government could force them to get on board with that easily. ISPs can blacklist all the unlicensed gambling sites in countries where gambling is regulated or forbidden so ISPs could be the ultimate watch dog to keep track on this lucrative Bitcoin business.
I wonder if they are keeping tabs on Bitcoiners with a lot of coins using web wallets. Do you know what they keep on users aside from the metadata you mentioned? Like passwords and search patters or more? Or passwords are encrypted and they can't get their grubby fingers on them?

knowing who uses bitcoin is super easy, they know all your cookie data.
so even if you use blockchain.info or an exchange as a webwallet.... they know!

they can 'clone' a session with a webservice and look into what you are doing by just emulating the data that goes between you and the website.
so finding how much you have 'online' is easy.

its a little harder to know how much funds you have stored privately (desktop wallet/paper wallet) but just knowing you use bitcoin is a millisecond search for keywords.

though bitcoin is not illegal and so there is no reason/point to care right now.. however KNOWING the weaknesses to prepare for 'possible' future changes is atleast worth it, just to not be shocked if things do change.

also ISP's keep logs for YEARS. so lets say laws change in 5-10 years, they can retrospectively look back and highlight people.
afterall its only 5400 nodes, spread out over 200 counties. so america only has to be concerned with 1500 people, UK under 400 people. so it is easy to manage for them. they are not having to worry about manually searching millions.. just hundreds/thousands. which take milliseconds to find

atmost its less than 1000 people found in only a couple milliseconds per ISP or atmost 1500 per country.
but right now governments are not caring about arresting people for just running bitcoin. so dont be concerned for knocks at the door today. but do be aware what you do now could end up as a red flag if a future law is implemented and they retrospectively look back through logs and then put on a fture watchlist.
19115  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone know the Bitcoin blockchain growth rate? on: December 08, 2016, 11:38:31 AM
no one is proposing 8mb blocks any time soon.

2gb is the 'safe' amount for 2017.. 4mb at a stretch.
all of which are going to be acceptable within someones 60gb monthly limit. even after you account for relaying.

also not everyone has to be a full node. there are a couple million people using bitcoin regularly but only 5400 of them are full nodes.

if you have no reason to run a fullnode (your not that interested in bitcoin or not a merchant) then just run a litenode.
if you have a reason to be a full node you can run it and be within your bandwidth.
worse case.. not today but in a couple years if your ISP has not migrated your 'cap' to bigger numbers. you can change your ISP

here is the thing.
watching just 4 hours of netflix wastes more bandwith than running bitcoin at 8mb ALL day .
livestreaming a game for 2 hours wastes more bandwith than running bitcoin at 8mb ALL day.

watching just 2 hours of netflix wastes more bandwith than running bitcoin at 4mb ALL day .
livestreaming a game for 1 hours wastes more bandwith than running bitcoin at 4mb ALL day.

watching just 1 hours of netflix wastes more bandwith than running bitcoin at 2mb ALL day .
livestreaming a game for 30 mins wastes more bandwith than running bitcoin at 2mb ALL day.

if watching TV or playing games is more important than bitcoin. then just run a litenode.
stop throwing doomsdays of numbers that do not rationally meet real life expectations for the next year, shouting the horrors of the next year, where you have not even done any real maths or scenarios of the next year.

atleast be realistic
19116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Increase blocksize with soft fork? on: December 08, 2016, 01:02:10 AM
A slightly offtopic point: Your assumption is that when 95% agree to run one protocol over another, that
they will stick to that. That 95% is effectively a pledge to perform a future act, it does not guarantee that
post-hardfork. So with that understanding in mind, within a system that no one should trust anyone
else, including miners, we choose to take a risk at a 95% pledge. Because there is a risk due to whether
individuals will keep their word, there can always be an altcoin possibility, IMO. The act of reversing the
pledge after a hardfork, would result in an intentional malicious hardfork, IMO.


you do know that if 95% have nodes that accept 2mb.. they accept ANYTHING below 2mb.
meaning

when nodes get to 95% ... 2 weeks grace pass to make sure it isnt a fluke.
miners then do a upto 95% period too plus a grace period.
by which time the node count should exceed 95%.

if it deminishes, pools wont risk it if the orphan rate risk jumped.
if it stays stable, pools would try it out

where pools only risk making blocks of 10000250byte block and see what the orphan rate is like
if happy they naturally test the waters with slightly more.

in short. back in 2009-2016 miners were not jumping to 1mb. they slowly progressed to 1mb.
dont think/imagine that pools are suddenly going to make 1.99mb the day of activation. (rationally/logically/logistically they wont)

if the orphan rate is too high we stick to 1mb.
this does not mean nodes have to downgrade. because 2mb accepts any data below 2mb
whether its 250bytes 1kb, 100kb 0.99mb whatever.

its more then a pledge because the nodes would already have the 2mb rule inplace BEFORE activation. meaning nodes are fully accepting even before pools push the envelope

right now many nodes are HAPPILY running with 2mb active. just like old nodes were happily running 1mb rule when blocks were only bing made at 0.2mb in 2009-2011 or 0.5mb upto 2013..
yep the rule was 1mb but blocks were under 1mb
future rule of 2mb while blocks are under 2mb.. same thing

but here is the funny part.. segwit IS a pledge. if you did not realise it 0.8->0.13.1 NEEDS to be upgraded to a new release (not yet available) AFTER activation for users to actually use segwit transaction features. yes only avaiable AFTER.

but things like BU, and other blocksize consensus nodes are ACTIVE AND RUNNING now. they are just waiting for a  majority to give miners confidence to push the envelope and test the water.. with worse case, them getting thier attempt orphaned.
19117  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Increase blocksize with soft fork? on: December 08, 2016, 12:45:42 AM
by claiming old chain. thats a imagery of claiming everything before the branch right to the genesis block dies.
its doesnt
blocks are still mined ontop of the previous blocks. the CHAIN continues on. just that there are not 2 persistent branches
One "branch" will effectively "die off" in an intentional consensual hardfork.
One "chain" will effectively be "abandoned" in an intentional consensual hardfork.
One "fork" will effectively "not be built upon" in an intentional consensual hardfork.

In my understanding, the three above statements have the same meaning.


no new genesis block is created, the mining doesnt start at block 1 again. it continues on..
Yes. There is no new Genesis block, but that is irrelevant to a hardfork normally.

if you want the imagery of a chain. then it would be
some double links of a chain are abandoned and replaced with new single links..
NOT the chain is abandoned

the reason i use trees/branches is 2 fold. one.. devs love their merkle tree Cheesy and also trees grow naturally they naturally make branches and can have their branches cut off. devs's also love to "prune" .. not wirecut.. so branches instead of metal chain seems to fit their narative as a way of explaining things
19118  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Increase blocksize with soft fork? on: December 08, 2016, 12:35:37 AM
"old chain"... dies off??
When I say "old chain" I am implying "old protocol that no longer is majority supported".

its never a 2 chain event. its a BRANCH that gets trimmed off depending on which branch is the strongest where the weakest branch gets cut off
Yeah, that was the theory before Ethereum hardforked.
Post ETH hardfork it was discovered that hardforks have different outcomes based on different circumstances.
The term chain is not a constant. It ebbs and flows based on its future or current state and this is why I disagree with the
"branch" term, since all branches by their design, such as in nature, must end at some point. In theory, both chains can survive,
but with the term branch, it is whether one is longer than the other. Using the term "branch" misconstrues what a hardfork
can and can not do. By saying "branch", it implies that there can be no surviving "old protocol" chain.


the old protocol is still acceptable to the branch.. because they are connected.

EG lets say old protocol block 0-450000 new consensus 450001..
by saying old protocol not supported. thats like saying it will reject blocks below 450k
killing off the old chain.
wrong on so many levels.

with 2mb, blocks of 0.0002mb->1.99mb are supported. it also does not mean all blocks have to be over 1mb but under 2mb
again blocks of 0.0002mb->1.99mb are supported. the old protocol IS supported.

as for your ethereum mention. please please please research ethereum. rather than just the media hype
learn how they AVOID and drop connection to.. rather than using consensus.
and stop comparing ethereums intention avoidance to a proposed bitcoin consensus. they are not the same thing
19119  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Discussion] Blocks signalling SegWit Support on: December 08, 2016, 12:07:21 AM
I used to blame the developers for being too slow to find a solution to the scalability issue. Now that we have one (well, sort of...), I may start to blame the miners for being too slow to implement it. At this rate, we'll be lucky if SegWit is adopted by Spring.

firstly ill repeat
its like Windows. never blindly install and run a new version of windows until its atleast released its first batch of patches

and then add
yet other proposals could have been released sooner..
segwit is just kicking the stone down the road.
at the moment pre-segwit we are getting ~2500tx (standard tx mix)
at the moment pre-segwit we are getting ~2100tx (standard/multisig tx mix)

only expect ~4500tx IF.. EMPHASIS: IF 100% of users use segwit.
yep the 1.8x of ~2500tx (standard tx mix) =~4500 IF 100% of users use segwit.
yep the 2.1x of ~2100tx (standard/multisig tx mix) ~4500 IF 100% of users use segwit.

but guess what.
if you look back to 2009-2013, transactions were leaner with the estimates of 4500tx (remember the good old days of 7tx/s hype)
thats right we are just going backwards to original expectations of 2009-2013..
and only able to reach OLD expectations IF EVERYONE used segwit

but a proper scalability of 2mb base 4mb weight. would offer ~5000tx without segwit and ~9000tx with segwit.

and making it dynamic means we are not waiting months/years for PEOPLE to decide to allow other people to download a change. it would happen as part of the network. meaning no political name calling or oliver twist scripts of "please sir can i have some more"

but hey we seem to have too many people protecting devs rather then bitcoins diversity and utility.
19120  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can my ISP tell that i am running a full node ? on: December 07, 2016, 11:46:52 PM
no need to watch data packets for specific ports and data sizes live while its being sent.

afterall ISP's are keeping metadata for years on every user(yea we know they keep more then just metadata, but shhh)
meta data is easy..
search keywords: "useragent satoshi"
search keywords: "useragent bitcoin"
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