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21  Economy / Gambling / Re: Seuntjies DiceBot -Multi-Site, multi-strategy betting bot for dice. With Charts! on: March 29, 2018, 12:30:54 PM
anybody know the worst loosing streak? Is there more then 32?`thx for help

There were some competitions like this one for winning streaks which is almost the same if you are going for 2x bets.
The mentioned competition has been won with a streak of 21 and has only been run for a week.

So much longer loosing streaks should be common and that being said any loosing streak can happen so you wont be save after x losses.
22  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★ Crypto-Games.net ★ 10 coins ★ Since 2014 ★ 7 games ★ 103 ETH Jackpot ★ on: February 27, 2018, 09:42:24 AM
Is there some error in the investment reporting or did someone really invest 4700 BTC for just 2 days and then divest it?


Would have been pretty funny if it was real.
The divest fee would cost him 14.1 BTC  Cheesy

Not the best short term investment.
23  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: CoinTracking - Gewinn/Verlust Portfolio und Steuer Reporting für digitale Coins on: February 08, 2018, 10:18:26 AM
Bin bei der Suche zur Versteuerung auf diesen Thread gestoßen und hab eine Frage die jetzt nicht direkt auf CoinTracking bezogen ist.

Ich habe gelesen das man sich einmalig entscheidet ob Veräußerungsgewinne FIFO oder LIFO berechnet werden (weiß leider nicht mehr wo).
In diesem Thread ist allerdings immer die Rede von FIFO, ist man also tatsächlich an dieses Prinzip gebunden?
Falls nein, kann man das in CoinTracking einstellen?

Werde mich wohl später mal registrieren und das ganze testen.
Hab nämlich auch mit ner Excel-Tabelle angefangen und denke, dass ich das selber schon nach wenigen Wochen nur noch schwer nachvollziehen kann  Cheesy

EDIT: Habs gefunden...war sogar hier im sticky  Lips sealed dann kann ich das wohl mal annehmen.
FIFO / LIFO und die Haltefrist
Für die Berechnung der Haltefrist kann es wie im obigen Beispiel wichtig sein, zu erklären, welchen Bitcoin man zuerst erworben und welchen man zuerst verkauft hat. Dafür gibt es grundsätzlich die beiden Verfahren
24  Economy / Gambling / Re: Seuntjies DiceBot -Multi-Site, multi-strategy betting bot for dice. With Charts! on: February 07, 2018, 08:15:31 AM
Hello guys!

Can anybody help me with a small script?

The idea is:
Base: 0.00000001
chance: 20
on lose: +0.00000001 (same bet as basebet)
on win: if profit on balance in +, so go back to basebet, if not, so go to next bet +0.00000001 (same bet as basebet)
and so until the balance it reaches a profit.

I guess this short script does what you are looking for

Code:
basebet=0.00000001
nextbet=basebet
chance=49.5
highestBalance=balance

function dobet()

if balance > highestBalance then
nextbet=basebet
highestBalance=balance
else
nextbet=previousbet+basebet
end

end

It checks if you are in profit by using your highest balance throughout the run.

But if you have questions on the programmers mode then you should probably post that in this thread.
25  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcoin & die Steuer - FAQ on: February 05, 2018, 03:09:48 PM
Ich habe eine Frage zur Verrechnung von Verlusten. Mein Steuerberater meint:

"Gewinne, die durch einen Verkauf nach einem Jahr entstanden sind, sind steuerfrei. Gleiches gilt für Verluste die nach einem Jahr der Anschaffung entstanden sind. Sie dürfen sich nicht auf die Steuerbelastung auswirken. Aus diesem Grund haben wir die Long-Term-Verluste bei den privaten Veräußerungsgeschäften nicht mit angeben können."

Das würde ja heißen, dass ich u.U. für Gesamtverluste auch noch Steuern zahlen muss.

Beispiel:

2017 Kauf von 1 Bitcoin zum Kurs von  20.000 EUR.
2019 Verkauf dieses Bitcoins zum Kurs von 5000.- EUR
>>> Verlust: 15000.- EUR

Wenn ich nun 2019 durch steuerpflichtiges Trading (unter 1 Jahr Haltezeit) mit ETH z.B. 10000.- EUR Gewinn realisiert habe, so hätte ich 2019 noch immer einen Gesamtverlust von 5000.- EUR.

Kann nun der Verlust tatsächlich nicht angerechnet werden?

Ist genau das nicht der Grund gewesen warum der Preis zum Jahresende gefallen ist?
Viele haben ihre Verluste geltend gemacht damit sie diese Versteuern können und haben im neuen Jahr wieder eingekauft.

Aber wenn du deinem Steuerberater nicht traust warum hast du ihn dann überhaupt engagiert?  Cheesy
26  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 05, 2018, 12:23:12 PM
I don't know why some normal comments/topics by high rank member get contributing very much merit ? For new members like me , it's very hard to achieve merit by someone even we have valuable topics

how would you even know? 

You been registered about two months and you have 14 posts (13 out of 14 largely one-liner posts in the past two days).

I recall that I was on the forum for several months and attempting to interact with other members in bitcoin substantive threads, and it takes a considerable amount of time for other members to get to know you and to respond to you and to interact with your posts (more than a couple of days).

 You could hardly even have experimented with the interaction aspect of this forum if you only have 13 posts in a couple of days, right?

Yes and no.

I dont think merit should only be awarded to highly interactive posts.
He could be in the bitcoin scene since several years but just now found this forum and created an account.
Therefore newbie accounts can have a large knowledge on many topics and contribute high quality posts which should be merit worthy.

Many people here are missing that there is a life outside of this forum and the rank here is only one of many indicators how well informed someone might be about cryptos.

Who fucking gives a shit if you have a life outside of the forum and you have been a lurker on the forum for 8 years?  It does not matter, and no one is going to give you merits because you happen to be a good person in real life if they don't know what that supposed goodness is. 

Further, we don't judge you based on your many accounts and your many speculative and supposed things that were in your good intention head that you meant to say.. We only can only determine based on what is posted, and I summarized mightwalker's posting activities at the time that I read his post as largely two days, so I don't know what purpose you find, B4RF, to speculate that there could be more meritorious things there when it does not fucking matter because none of us would know about such speculative things, and even mightwalker has not even responded to declare any of these kinds of supposedly good things that he might deserve merit for.

I guess you misunderstood me.
I never tried to defend mightwalker (I havent even looked into his posts). I was just upset about the fact that you think that someone with 14 posts cant have enough knowledge to make merit worthy posts.


B4RF, does it genuinely appear to you that the account you and JayJuanGee are discussing fulfills these criteria for somebody with quality posts to contribute as a “Newbie”?  Does that look like a “well informed” person who simply has “a life outside of this forum”?

As above. I never checked his account.
But your post perfectly fits my argumentation, you were able to make quality posts as newbie which are now rewarded.
Nobody has to be a high rank member to make quality posts, any newbie account could have more knowledge in cryptos then most legendarys in this forum.
And now newbies can show this by accumulating merits.
27  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 05, 2018, 07:29:08 AM
I don't know why some normal comments/topics by high rank member get contributing very much merit ? For new members like me , it's very hard to achieve merit by someone even we have valuable topics

how would you even know? 

You been registered about two months and you have 14 posts (13 out of 14 largely one-liner posts in the past two days).

I recall that I was on the forum for several months and attempting to interact with other members in bitcoin substantive threads, and it takes a considerable amount of time for other members to get to know you and to respond to you and to interact with your posts (more than a couple of days).

 You could hardly even have experimented with the interaction aspect of this forum if you only have 13 posts in a couple of days, right?

Yes and no.

I dont think merit should only be awarded to highly interactive posts.
He could be in the bitcoin scene since several years but just now found this forum and created an account.
Therefore newbie accounts can have a large knowledge on many topics and contribute high quality posts which should be merit worthy.

Many people here are missing that there is a life outside of this forum and the rank here is only one of many indicators how well informed someone might be about cryptos.
28  Other / Meta / Re: [LIST] USERS THAT ARE ABUSING MERIT SYSTEM on: February 02, 2018, 09:34:51 AM
Just saw this post on the top merited replys:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2773544.msg29292037#msg29292037

Twinscoin2017 got four high merit transactions from different accounts which have only sent merit to this guy for low quality posts

    January 31, 2018, 02:01:09 PM: 30 from chickenado for Re: What would happen to BTC if internet was turned off?
    January 31, 2018, 01:40:23 PM: 50 from KenChanYu for Re: what is the bitcoin for you? and how did he change your life?
    January 31, 2018, 01:30:50 PM: 50 from Gaff for Re: why bitcoin is profitable ?
    January 31, 2018, 01:22:21 PM: 22 from djgtr for Re: what is the bitcoin for you? and how did he change your life?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1779
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=221660
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=62998
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=22398
29  Other / Meta / Re: [LIST] USERS THAT ARE ABUSING MERIT SYSTEM on: February 02, 2018, 09:19:34 AM
This user tries to exchange Merit:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1048815

proof

I certainly agree that I got screwed out of an easy obtainable Legendary account by just some posts (I already have the activity I am only missing the post count) but thats no reason to abuse this system.

Are there any reasons why this account has not been added yet?

And has any of those users in the OP got a punishment for abusing the merit system?
This thread doesnt really serve any purpose if there are no consequences.
30  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: February 01, 2018, 07:32:36 AM
Hey guys!

I think I found a bug in the Merit system: on the Merit page from my profile if I refresh the page, the system sends the same amount of sMerit points to the last person I have sent the points, see here:

I don't know if this is relevant but, I'm using Opera browser.

Cheers!

This has already been mentioned for example here

Is it possible that I have found a bug? Or it's just my browser that tricks me... or this is the normal behaviour and I have to be cautious hitting refresh in the browser...

Have you also noticed if you see this page, after you have merited someone (Merit sent!)

and you hit the refresh button in the browser, the merit is sent again? (Without asking that I really want to send the data again like when I fill out a form on a normal webpage and hit send, after if I hit refresh, it asks me if I want to resend the same data)

(No, I don't want to trick you to send me a merit and after hit the refresh button to send a second one Smiley I'm just curious if it works for you too or it's just my browser....)

But I actually dont know if someone is going to work on a fix or if we simply need to make people aware of this to avaoid some overmeritted posts Smiley
31  Other / Meta / Re: Merit System Solution on: February 01, 2018, 07:21:55 AM

The last time this forum received a donation from someone i believe was over a year ago? Which basically means the forum is completely dependant on their reserves/ad revenue. (albeit that the reserves are quite large.)

I just saw the thread about getting the Donator status


If you donate 10 BTC (which pays for about a month of hosting), you get donator status:

Obviously this would pay for much more then one month of hosting now Cheesy
No wonder that the last donation has been so long ago.
32  Other / Meta / Merit System Solution on: January 31, 2018, 01:57:43 PM
There is a simple solution which would stop all the complains about the Merit system.

Remove the signature feature or at least ban all signature campaigns.

This would stop all account farming and spamming since the rank would no longer be that relevant.
Only serious users would still try to rank up to support their reputation.

This would even benefit the forum since normal ads would be more lucrative and could be sold for more I guess.


I know everyone disagrees with this idea but I think that everyone knows as well that this would be the easiest solution.
33  Other / Meta / Re: [LIST] USERS THAT ARE ABUSING MERIT SYSTEM on: January 30, 2018, 12:37:07 PM

Low ranking members don't have a lot of merits anyways  Tongue

Not a lot of initial Merits but why do you think a low ranked member is not able of doing high quality posts and earn much merit very fast?
34  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: January 30, 2018, 11:39:17 AM
I figured I'd post my merit infographic in this thread as well.

Thanks for your image - (It has merit - boom tish!)

But I think one of the arrows in the green dot gives other green dot merits is pointing the wrong way.

First gives second ten, second gives third five...

This part of the infographic is not about rekursively sending Merits but about the difference of Merit and sMerit.
A user can spend 10 sMerit on a post, this would result in 10 Merit for the author of that post as well as 5 sMerit for the same author.
35  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: January 30, 2018, 10:09:57 AM
It's a bit dishonestly. When I should be Full Member tomorrow, I will stay a Member with 10 merit and all my 170+ posts where done in past. TO gain 90 merit I need do the same amount of worthwhile posts  Grin
Just write a really, really, really good post and you shouldn't have any problem accumulating 90 merit. And I'm sure if you do create such a post, you'll have made the forum a better place because of it Wink
I know, but I already wrote a really really good posts and a quite big amount and received no merit. And no one will give merit to another people, no one need it. Just you give merit to me I give it to u.

I looked through your posts and do not see anything that is "really really good posts"

perhaps the issue is you are not a native English speaker, so your idea of a good post and others are two different things..

I dont want to defend this guy but all other users which got several hundred merits through the initial distribution didnt need any "really really good posts"
From now on everyone needs to deliver but the merit earned from the current accounts status is actually not worth much in my opinion.
36  Other / Meta / Evaluating Merit on: January 30, 2018, 08:09:24 AM
I collected some of my thoughts of the merit system and would like to ask you about your opinion.

Is the initial merit distribution fair?

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

Every user got the amount of merit which would be required to obtain his current rank.
The only exception is hero members which could already have been legendary.
I decided that the previous allocation was too unfair in this area, so everyone with activity >= 775 got 500 more merit if they didn't already have 1000 merit (and also Lutpin). No extra sMerit, though.

Since the required merit is pretty close to the needed activity for a rank we can assume that an average user with good post quality should obtain 1 merit per day (if the average user gets that many merit for good posts is a different question). By this assumption there would be many users which would get "deranked".

As example there is a Full Member with 200 activity. This user would only get 100 merit which would result in a deficit of 100 days activity for his/her account in merits.
But lets take a look at the lucky users of this distribution. A Hero Member with an activity of 775 would get 1000 merit since his/her account could potentially be a Legendary one. Therefore this user would get 225 more merit then his current rank which would be equal to more then 7 months of activity which would he/she would have been awarded for free.

I already posted an idea which wouldnt benefit anyone and shouldnt be hard to distribute:
Maybe it would have been best not to create a new value for the merit but simply use the activity the same as it is used for time and activity right now.

So instead of this
The activity number is determined in this way:
time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)
We would have used:
activity = min(time * 14, posts, merit)

and everyone would have gotten the same initial merit as his activity at the time of the change.
This way nobody would have been affected in his current rank by a positiv or negative direction and we would still only use activity instead of an additional counter on all accounts.

But all these considerations are based on the thought that the current rank is as valueable as the same amount of merit.

Is activity worth as much as merit?

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

Until this point anyone could have become legendary simply by having an old enough account and posting one post per day on average.
So there is no guarantee that users with their current rank would have deserved any merit whatsoever.

So maybe the correct aproach would have been to give no one merit but only sMerit.
This way nobody can claim merit without doing any quality posts in his accounts lifetime.
Of course this would deficit the current users ranking. To prevent this I would suggest to reward accounts differently depending on their current activity status.

Rankmerit reward per +Merit
Brand new1
Newbie1
Jr Member1
Member2
Full Member3
Sr. Member4
Hero Member5
Legendary5

So when a user spends 1 sMerit to reward a post from eg. a Full Member, this Full Member would actually get 3 merits.
Important is that he/she would still only get 0.5 sMerit so merits are not inflated and generated out of thin air.
These numbers are obviously debateble and just an example for the different factors by rank.

But the most important question:

Does merit serve its purpose?

Account farming should no longer be viable which would be a great succes.
But the merit might as well force unorganic posts which are only made for the purpose of calculating merit. And since good posts are not guarenteed to be rewarded by merit, users might make more posts then usual hoping for more merit to obtain the next rank.
And all this upranking is highly dependent on all the other users. Some might never use their sMerit to reward other posts and some others might not even know about this feature for a long time.


Those are just my thoughts on this system and some suggestions on different approachs.
Obviously no normal user can force this system to change but at least we can show our ideas to improve it.
37  Other / Meta / Re: Merit rewards for Signature Campaigns! on: January 29, 2018, 06:26:52 PM
The current system does most likely already what you are asking for.

If you post high quality posts and you are in a signature campaign then the signature manager either takes a look at the posts of his participants and can most likely merit those which are of higher quality or the manager doesnt even check the posts in which case you most likely dont have to be afraid you need merit for this campaign and you can simply count on other users giving your posts merit.

And since signature campaign managers are generally of higher ranks and therefore earn merit faster then the average, they would have enough merit to spare for the higher quality posts if they would like to.

So if you take place in a signature campaign with a dedicated manager then you can already get the behaviour which you are wishing for  Wink
38  Other / Meta / Re: Merit & new rank requirements on: January 29, 2018, 10:42:57 AM
In the few days this has been going on, I havent seen anyone outside of this thread use it.. And I dont find any motivation to use it either. You expect anyone to rank up with this shit?

There are already multiple threads which have spread merit.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=toptopicsat

And I am pretty confident that the merit sources need some time to go through posts and select merit worthy ones.
39  Other / Meta / Re: Merit reallocation based on activity? on: January 29, 2018, 10:40:21 AM
I was thinking the same and in addition to that I already posted my idea to even integrate the merit into the activity rank

The activity number is determined in this way:
time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(time * 14, posts)

We would have used:
activity = min(time * 14, posts, merit)
your formula would make merit as higher importance than posting itself
while the idea of merit is appraising the quality of the post not the quantity of the post
with your formula, people will not raise in rank at all unless he gets merits

imagine someone's been posting one post/day for 1 year = 365 posts = 365 activity
with your formula he will be newbie forever if he hasn't received any merits
week2: min(14, 14, 0) = 0 and a year later week52: min(364, 365, 0) = 0
and for that reason, he would still have newbie limits for posting, PMs limit and can't post images
I would support fine tuning the merits with some limits just like putting a limit on activity gain/week

I understand your point but when someone actually has an account for one year and has never received any merit, maybe he doesnt deserve a different account then newbie because he never posted anything usefull?
And if no one ever gave him merit although his post quality is fine then he could easily ask in the meta thread for a merit source to check a selection of his posts.
40  Other / Meta / Re: 1st rank update after the Merit system launch on: January 29, 2018, 07:51:24 AM
Users that complain about Merits or Trust or Rank or whatever should just be snap added to the signature campaign blacklist for a long time.  Fuck them.

I do like the idea, but.. everyone does have a right to speak out.

although the people who are spinning up multiple threads, kicking off against all the DT members who have negged them - well they should just be banned off the forum.

Has anyone actually been banned from this forum?
I have never heard of a ban the only consequence I have already seen multiple times is that an account got so much nagetive trust that no one ever would make any serious interaction with that account again  Grin
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