If you a certain that a certain coin/token will be worth much more in the future, it's always best to buy it. If you are uncertain whether that coin/token will succeed, then it is best to mine it as the hardware's value works as a hedge against lost coin value.
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That's why I love the Sapphire dual ball bearing X-Fans. One screw to take off the fan for maintenance and cleaning and no wires to run or deal with. Replacements are $12.50 each including shipping from Sapphire and they are super easy to replace. Yeah I stayed away from Sapphire ever since the 6950/7950 days. I changed every single fan on over 30 6950 because every one failed in 2 years and some of the ones on my 7950s I changed more than 3 times. I guess Sapphire got sick of RMAs for fans and improved their fan quality and modular design. I have yet to have a single Twin Frozr fan fail - they must protect from dust intrusion really well.
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Hybrid Cards are far superior,
The Cards themselves stay remarkably cooler then their air-cooled brethren, These following 10 cards are all EVGA 1070ti SC Hybrids, Overclocked to Core +180 Memory +1300 Power Limit(watt) 113 watts per card, Running Under SMOS
and here are the results for those ten cards, look at those temps, and these run 24 hours a day,
GPU1 36C Sol/s: 512.7 Sol/W: 4.45 Avg: 501.8 I/s: 269.2 Sh: 0.50 1.00 212 GPU8 34C Sol/s: 501.2 Sol/W: 4.43 Avg: 499.1 I/s: 267.8 Sh: 0.46 1.00 214 GPU3 39C Sol/s: 483.7 Sol/W: 4.48 Avg: 487.3 I/s: 261.0 Sh: 0.47 1.00 214 GPU5 36C Sol/s: 503.8 Sol/W: 4.42 Avg: 498.5 I/s: 267.7 Sh: 0.51 1.00 211 GPU4 36C Sol/s: 502.4 Sol/W: 4.49 Avg: 489.9 I/s: 266.6 Sh: 0.48 0.99 210 GPU7 38C Sol/s: 503.5 Sol/W: 4.43 Avg: 499.3 I/s: 267.7 Sh: 0.49 0.99 214 GPU2 32C Sol/s: 503.3 Sol/W: 4.42 Avg: 498.3 I/s: 267.3 Sh: 0.49 1.00 214 GPU0 38C Sol/s: 500.1 Sol/W: 4.47 Avg: 504.0 I/s: 270.5 Sh: 0.49 1.00 218 GPU6 36C Sol/s: 512.7 Sol/W: 4.46 Avg: 502.4 I/s: 269.5 Sh: 0.48 1.00 214 GPU9 38C Sol/s: 507.5 Sol/W: 4.45 Avg: 502.1 I/s: 269.5 Sh: 0.50 1.00 213
You will Never find this low of card temps, unless you are spending a fortune on Air-conditioning, or live in an Arctic environment year around,
My 1070Tis idle at higher temps than your mining temps Stupid 7 year heatwave in Southern California. I haven't tried Hybrid cards yet. Do I just need to mount the small radiator and fan assembly to the back of a case if case mining or somewhere on the mining frame? No other pumps or equipment needed?
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I am struggling with my new setup. I have 3 1080ti and a 1k PSU(rosewill) If I set the power limit to anything above 200w when either ewbf or dstm miner start up the system crashes. 1000w should be plenty for 3 of those cards but it seems that the sudden surge in ask for power from all 3 psu right at the same time is to much for that PSU.
@dstm is there anyway to add a staggered start parameter? Or do you have any other ideas?
If you're certain the PSU is up to the challenge, try redoing the cabling. Sometimes rerouting the power can fix the power droops. If you have extra cables you can use for risers try using a dedicated line instead of running 2 on a line. It's rare, but sometimes even the PCIe cables can't provide enough power esp when they have 2 8-pin.
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Ton in stock? I saw the sign for 1070Ti for $989 but the whole locked cabinet was empty. The Orange County Microcenter I just got back from has nothing except a few 1030s, some 750Tis (can't believe they still have these), some 550s and 460s. Basically not a single card with a PCIe connector. Good going nVidia/AMD - they created a monopoly for distribution channels.
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In my areas there are basically 2 types of ads.
SELLING RX 470 4GB GPU FOR $500 FIRM
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BUYING RX 470 4GB GPU FOR $100 CASH
Sound like California. I can see a buying ad where he is offering $300 for 1080Ti, $225 for 1080, $175 for 1070. Considering how the people vote around here I'm sure he was able to acquire some cards at those prices. He might also be laying in a ditch somewhere lol.
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I'm sure the pent up demand by gamers and those buying for school starting in August/Sept will be picking up some of those unwanted cards.
Once that backlog clears then you can expect to see cards for sale, especially in high electricity rate areas.
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Hello guys, im currently in a lucky situation where i don't have to pay for electricty for the next 2 years renting my apparment and i have a question, what would be the best setup i could get for 500€? The most importand thing here would be that it shouldnt make too much noise #Edit, it doesent have to be bitcoints, can be anything that gives me a fair amout of coins
Well, your best bet with such a low budget is to get RX 470s, a cheap C2D or AMD CPU and mobo with some mining OS or pirated version of windows and RAM. Expect lots of heat if you're going to run miners- some setups may seem to be pretty harmless but they're pretty much space heaters in terms of power consumption. They will make a lot of noise depending on what make and build and fan speed you're using, but in this world of Bitcoin and alt coins that's pretty much unavoidable. I would agree with RX470s. Pirated software, really? As if 1/2 of the people on this board don't work in IT/software and expect to get paid for their work. You could buy valid OEM Windows 10 keys off eBay for under $20 easily. Water cooling would reduce noise but would eat into your budget. Ultimately the limiting factor would be how much heat could that room tolerate.
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XMR might be an option - but watch it tank on profitability hard if a bunch of ex-ETH mining cards suddenly shift when they can't do the DAG any more.
This is not an if but when. POS for ETH might come sooner than expected if the China 0 fee "hacking" continues...in which case XMR difficulty would go through the roof. I hope people enjoy playing video games...
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It would be better to see more mining equipment. What is actually letting people down to bring them on the market? Since in most places the cost for electricity is high, so why are there no other solutions?
Before we had these usb sticks, there is an bitmain router, though it is old equipment and not profitable nowadays, why is it all gone?
It's not profitable because multi-million dollar corporations have set up shop in countries to get rates that are unimaginable for the little guy. Little guys should still mine to support the network and possibly turn a profit or break even but the days of easy money are gone.
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With all but the eastern US seeing cool temps not too much winter heat is coming online. I'm still trying to recover from the 107F it was here on Monday in Los Angeles. I turned off everything but my AC.
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Primary card i can understand to fix remote access resolution, but why the hell would you doend 6x 15 bucks when u dont need to, how can the shown temps be wrong?
On Windows 10 running the latest ATI drivers and RX470's, they don't report their temps to the OS (using OpenHardwareMonitor, but Claymore seems to get them) - but the larger issue is that the fan control doesn't seem to work. I normally have claymore set to have them at 80%, but I literally will see the fans not spinning, then plug in the dongle and they start spinning. Plus with the dongle, then the temps show up even if the video output is disabled... My systems with Nvidia cards have no problem just having the one dongle for the whole system... For me it's more important to have everything being monitored than save a couple bucks, so I put them on all the cards just to be sure. If at some point I don't need them, I can easily just use them individually on systems. Are you running any additional software. Afterburner seems to much things up in the latest Beta iteration but WattTool and GPUz combos seems to keep the card "alive" if I turn on VRM monitoring.
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I think Antminer won out and at this point, people should be thankful they are still committed to making sure miners are available on a retail basis for the public. If another company won out, likely that would not be the case at this point in mining.
Although not entirely thrilled with them I would say they have been one of the best in the miner hardware business (when compared to the behavior of of companies like BFL/Avalon/KNC).
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If you have any opening near the bottom you could always keep a small trough of water to act as a passive heat exchange with half of it sticking out of the shed. Geothermal hothouses use this cooling method.
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If the purpose of mining is to support the network then yes the Bitcoin network is losing support by losing viable mining options.
Most of the alt-coin mined by GPUs is converted to BTC or fiat I would imagine since people need to pay their credit card bills.
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If you're thinking $1500 BTC wouldn't it just be easier to buy BTC and have it double in fiat value?
Only financial reason to mine is to have the expectation you can get more BTC than you could currently purchase.
Kudos to supporting the network, but understand fiat profit vs BTC gain.
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I don't see how this can be profitable unless Bitcoin fiat price continues on it's upward trajectory. This is not the gift that was the S3.
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Time would be better spent mining some alt coin and throwing those winnings at some lottery site - higher chance of winning 25BTC worth.
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As it has always been marginal miners will move on, some will operate at a loss hoping for fiat gains and big farms will make a profit as the marginal miners drop off.
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I just sold (4) S3 locally for $150 USD so I'm happy - I couldn't have mined that much in 60 days even.
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