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201  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official) on: September 07, 2012, 08:26:04 PM
In the end, when pirate doesn't pay, Mtthew will also not pay a single bet.

That will show to all team ponzi that they are as gullible for trusting him to pay the bets as pirate investors were on trusting pirate.

No, not as gullible. Pirate "investors" actually *deposited* their coins. MNW bettors only pledged them in a forum statement.
On the other hand, it seems Pirate "investors" may have been making financial decisions on the assumption that Matthew will pay out. So there are some people that will have actual non-hypothetical losses if he doesn't pay out but Team Ponzi most likely aren't amongst them.

But you and almost everybody believes he will pay.
Personally, I've carefully refrained from commenting on whether I think he'll pay or not. There are some good reasons for this which you may be able to spot if you think about the issue.
202  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone just moved all the bitcoins! on: September 07, 2012, 07:32:43 PM
Does this mean Blockchain.info will present bogus transactions sent to it on its UI?  Presumably the blockchain.info UI should never have seen this transaction since it shouldn't have made it through the front door.  Perhaps the purpose of this transaction is to illustrate a blockchain.info bug?
It appears so. Notice how the inputs to the transaction were much, much smaller than the outputs; Bitcoin doesn't let you create coins out of thin air like this except in coinbase transactions, and those can't created more than 50 BTC.
203  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 23/459 on: September 07, 2012, 01:40:22 PM
Why would anyone run a secret pass through to a ponzi when they could just run a ponzi themselves?
Ponzis are apparently delicate things, especially in the early days - one big investor pulling out early on can spell doom for them. I'd be more inclined to believe he was just a pass-through if it wasn't for the fact that Maged and co. investigated his finances through the blockchain and seemed to reckon they were consistent with a highly profitable standalone ponzi scheme.
204  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ModMiner Quad High Efficiency FPGA Bitcoin Mining Devices 840Mh/s BTCFPGA.com on: September 07, 2012, 10:59:44 AM
It seems that the site loads javascript from stripe that submits the credit card information over https directly to stripe.
Of course, that's not actually secure unless the original page is served over https: too, because an attacker could inject their own Javascript that syphons off the credit card information.
205  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Putting your money where Pirate's mouth is. on: September 06, 2012, 08:09:33 PM
That's not how you use it. This ain't Ebay, there is no "global highest rating". You have to check out *who* rated people highly, and it needs more time to let trusted users make a reputation.

It's trivial to spam 50 small accounts and have them all rate someone 10. Is the resulting 500-rating worth anything? Not really. But the WoT displays much more than that, and this is very useful and should become even more useful with time. Gribble also has a feature to find out how people you trust rated someone.
The default rating displayed seems to be the global one. In any case, I believe that pirateat40 had positive ratings from a number of trusted members of the community including nanotube. The problem is that the fact that someone's carried out small Bitcoin-Paypal exchanges honestly doesn't mean they're trustworthy to handle a 500,000 BTC investment that looks strangely like a Ponzi. I believe various Silk Road customers may also have discovered this problem with ratings the hard way.
206  Economy / Goods / Re: High Voltage and Vacuum Equipment; CPS, Behlke, Ultravolt, Varian, Nor-Cal, ++++ on: September 06, 2012, 07:55:53 PM
I suspect there isn't much of a market for exotic specialized equipment on the Bitcoin forums somehow; small community and all.
207  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: pirate payments list -- accounts paid: 23/459 on: September 06, 2012, 05:40:20 PM
And Pirate claimed on several occasions that his business made him 10.5% a week, of which he payed out 7% to his investors. And Zeek was offering: 7 x 1.5% = 10.5% a week.

Actually it's 10.98% a week factoring in compound interest.
Which, of course, quite a lot of people fail to do.
208  Other / Off-topic / Re: Possible impacts of ASIC mining and hypothetical scenarios on: September 06, 2012, 09:23:22 AM
As soon as BFL ships the ASICs, they have no control over them. Their own customers will be securing the network against such an attack. If they tried to pull off such an attack before shipping, the Bitcoin community could just switch to an algorithm their chips don't support.
They have no control over the ones they've shipped, true. However so long as the amount of ASICs they've kept back is a reasonable amount larger than the amount they've shipped they'll still be able to carry out the attack, and for various economic reasons we might expect this to actually be the case for any manufacturer of Bitcoin mining ASICs.
209  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] OpenBitASIC : The Open Source Bitcoin ASIC Initiative on: September 06, 2012, 09:06:08 AM
That's because they're still being ordered!
Have they even finished shipping BFL Singles that were ordered prior to the Bitforce SC announcement yet?
210  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: About proposed double-spend alerts in "Two Bitcoins at the Price of One" on: September 05, 2012, 11:47:42 PM
People who accidentally double spend which would be fairly easy when multiple devices using the same wallets are common, as well as unconfirmed transactions that never get approved because they have no tx fee and the user eventually creates a new spend (oh I'll include it now that I get the money!).
What's more, this gives miners an incentive to collude in delaying large transactions with no fee or a small fee in the hope that the sender will try resending it with a fee, allowing them to confiscate all the money. That's probably not a good thing.
211  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses on: September 05, 2012, 11:44:20 PM
200000 BTC is an even lower estimate than 350000 BTC I gave, but I figure also more accurate. If worse goes to worst, then that is the figure I may preliminarily use.
Well, that estimate's going to be quite a bit lower than the actual total loss because it's based on the assumption that pirateat40 was paying out interest using other investors' deposits. So on top of that 200000 BTC loss, investors will also have lost some of their initial principle in the form of profits gained by other investors.
212  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Discussion about 10,000BTC Bet (Official) on: September 05, 2012, 12:00:25 PM
I read either znort or D&T put the amount owing at 100000 BTC, and I have no idea of the total amount paid back yet.

Fewer insults, if you please.
Actually, I think Pirate owes about 100000 BTC just to BTCMAX and their account-holders alone.
213  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: bitfloor coin theft details on: September 04, 2012, 09:44:12 PM
With all due respect to the victims in this hacking, whoever they'll end up being, I am suspicious of hacking claims where the announcement of the hack includes a factual assertion of how the hack took place, e.g. "we used encryption but they found our forgotten unencrypted backup".  How does one come to know with certainty that this is actually what happened?
I seem to recall that in the previous Bitcoin-related Linode compromises the hacker had to reboot the VPSes in order to gain access to them. That'd lock them out of any encrypted data but not an unencrypted backup, not to mention the fact that it made the fact the VPSes had been compromised really obvious afterwards.
214  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bounty[PAID OUT] : a bitstream for better utilizing the Cairnsmore1 157-294.5btc on: September 04, 2012, 12:08:30 AM
Mine's a bit annoying in that you can't actually build it from source and get the same level of performance that the released bitstreams reach. There's a source archive in the dcmwd4e release, and if you unpack that, download and unpack the .ncd from http://www.makomk.com/~aidan/shortfin_dcmwd4e_ed_ncd.7z, and add the unpacked .ncd to the supplied project as a SmartGuide file (right-click fpgaminer_top in the left pane in ISE, select SmartGuide, point it at that file) you ought to be able to get speeds that are good enough for testing purposes. If you're willing to do a long SmartXplorer run you ought to be able to get the speeds up to release levels; I didn't because it's a bit hit and miss and would delay the release by quite some time.

Edit: As I've said before, honestly you might be better off using the hexanchus branch if you want to build from source right now ("git clone https://github.com/makomk/Icarus.git; cd Icarus; git checkout -b hexanchus origin/hexanchus"). Slightly slower than the released bitstream, but I think it's the fastest of mine that can actually be built from source, and you should literally just be able to open the project file up in ISE and build it.

Edit 2: hexanchus requires different DIP switch settings though; on all the FPGAs where you'd normally set switch 2 to off, you also need to set switch 4 to off as well.
215  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: September 03, 2012, 04:00:50 PM
Mining majority cannot change the algorithm, only an economic majority can. I don't think anyone would be able to get most BFL miners to switch without a good reason, anyway - it's simply too risky since "greed" won't fly with the non-BFL miners.
This isn't entirely true. As I know you're fully aware, if an ASIC manufacturer with much greater than 50% of the network hashpower has implemented some new secret hashing algorithm, they can declare that the Bitcoin network is switching to their new algorithm and that they'll use their 51% to prevent any transactions ever confirming for users that remain on the old one. They can't force everyone to change to their algorithm, but they can render the existing one useless quite easily.
216  Economy / Economics / Re: Who does Bitcoin subsidize saving? on: September 03, 2012, 11:38:58 AM
When you save money, you produce but do not consume. That's great. You deposit but do not withdraw, loaning everyone else use of the benefits of your labor. Deferred consumption should be rewarded as it's a form of investment.
Does the idea of deferred consumption necessarily make economic sense though? I mean, you certainly can't do it with labour - you can't just say, oh, I don't need those 40 hours/week of this person's labour right now, I'll defer using it for a few years. If no-one uses that labour right now it's gone, wasted, poof, and if you need labour in the future you're basically using new resources that would've been there regardless of what you consumed in the past.

In fact, let me just quote from an article I saw linked elsewhere:

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By the time I retire, according to government actuarial tables, there are supposed to be two workers supporting each retiree in decades of leisure. There was no financial vehicle that was ever going to make that possible: not the Social Security system, not a gold-plated company pension, not a 401(k), and not a magical money manager promising risk-free returns. And yet whom do we elect? Whose books do we buy? The people who tell us that they can make this impossible thing happen. We’ve become our own three-card monte dealer.

The same argument applies just as well to Bitcoins as it does to any other investment scheme; we're still trading our consumption right now for future consumption that we have no rational reason to believe should be available to us at a reasonable price. Doesn't matter whether the currency is inflationary or deflationary or goes-sidewaysey because the problem isn't with the tokens we use to represent resources, the problem is with the underlying resources themselves. Actually, I suspect this might be even worse with a deflationary currency like Bitcoins.
217  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Details of Pirate's Investment Strategy on: September 03, 2012, 10:54:42 AM
Why would he be using PayPal?
Funnily enough, IIRC we know he was actually using Paypal to trade bitcoins for USD and vice-versa in #bitcoin-otc. It's quite likely that was just an attempt to gain the trust of the community though.
218  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Instawallet coins missing! on: September 03, 2012, 08:57:58 AM
They can't be spendable after 2 confirms, bitcoins can't only be spendable after 6 confirms.
Actually, with the standard client you can spend bitcoins you've received after only 1 confirm.
219  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Open Source FPGA Bitcoin Miner (Spartan-6 Now Tops Performance per $!) on: September 02, 2012, 01:35:16 PM
Guys, am I doing something wrong?
I just took DE2_115_makomk_mod, synthesized it for 140Mhz.... and it works.

Going on with further clocks & optimization settings... FPGA heats up quite violently, had to add radiator with thermal grease and active cooling.
Doesn't surprise me. Few people have Cyclone-IV FPGA boards and the most common one apparently can't supply enough power to the FPGA to handle Bitcoin mining at higher clock speeds. Couple that with people being unwilling to risk their expensive boards through overclocking and I don't think anyone's actually tried it yet.
220  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Putting your money where Pirate's mouth is. on: September 02, 2012, 11:39:08 AM
Does not bode well.
Neither did this part:

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16:45 < Otoh> pirate: The PPT that didn't' comply will have a long road ahead. Those that contacted me ahead of time "Friday" are clear. - So as all my funds I moved from BST to Bitcoinmax wen the new rates were announced are now in a quagmire, is there anything your investors who used the most popular pass through & was recommended as good guy by you able to do now to help solve this? a
16:46 <@pirateat40> Otoh, You won a prize....  "YOU GET NOTHING"!
16:47 -!- mode/#btcst [+b *!*@127.Red-81-38-197.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] by pirateat40
16:47 -!- Otoh was kicked from #btcst by pirateat40 [You're not welcome here!]
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