Putting your money where Pirate's mouth is.

[organofcorti]

This is the first long thread I've read though on this forum

I am so so sorry. Please pass my condolences to your widow.

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[hannesnaude]

… use the Vandroiy bet conditions, because they are clearly laid out and fine-tuned. If Vandroiy wins his BTC5,000, you pay me, if Vandroiy loses, I pay you. …

I accept your conditions. I'm betting 10,000BTC already in another thread however, although at the moment of writing this, 4995.89114457 BTC has been bet leaving me with 5004.10885543 BTC left to bet with. Name your bet please.

Let's leave it at BTC250 then. That's about my limit without escrow.

This is my offer. If you accept it, we have a deal.

Agreed. For my own accounting purposes I will add it to the same spreadsheet as I use for other betters of the betting thread, but I concede publicly that it is in fact a separate bet entirely and an exact mimc of the strict guidelines in Vandroiy and Pirate's bet. Good luck!

Time to pay up. I am sending my bitcoin address to you by PM.

I'm still curious why you made this hopeless bet. Care to explain? Did you get messages from the pirate that sounded so believable that you fell for them?

Curious to hear whether Matt paid you.

[hgmichna]

Curious to hear whether Matt paid you.

He wrote he will deal with his bets beginning on September 9th.

This makes at least some sense, as his other bets end on that day, so I will wait until then without throwing a tantrum.

Does anybody here know Matthew N. Wright (or the actual person behind that account) better than I do? He seemed like a different person some time ago.

[Matthew N. Wright]

Curious to hear whether Matt paid you.

He wrote he will deal with his bets beginning on September 9th.

This makes at least some sense, as his other bets end on that day, so I will wait until then without throwing a tantrum.

Does anybody here know Matthew N. Wright (or the actual person behind that account) better than I do? He seemed like a different person some time ago.

Considering I don't know you -at all- I would say most know me better lol

[hgmichna]

Considering I don't know you -at all- I would say most know me better lol

I am certainly hoping that you have a good reputation and want to keep it.

[Matthew N. Wright]

Considering I don't know you -at all- I would say most know me better lol

I am certainly hoping that you have a good reputation and want to keep it.

I have a reputation as a troll first and foremost.

[myrkul]

Considering I don't know you -at all- I would say most know me better lol

I am certainly hoping that you have a good reputation and want to keep it.

I have a reputation as a troll first and foremost.

Least confidence-building thing you've said all week, Matt.

[Matthew N. Wright]

Considering I don't know you -at all- I would say most know me better lol

I am certainly hoping that you have a good reputation and want to keep it.

I have a reputation as a troll first and foremost.

Least confidence-building thing you've said all week, Matt.

If you try, you can succeed at anything!

[hgmichna]

I have a reputation as a troll first and foremost.

Least confidence-building thing you've said all week, Matt.

That will be corrected when he will have paid out his bets.

[hannesnaude]

...when he will have paid out...

Now where have I heard that before?

Second verse same as the first.

[Matthew N. Wright]

...when he will have paid out...

Now where have I heard that before?

Second verse same as the first.

Ha---llelujah! Ha---llelujah! Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Halle----lujah!!!!

[ErebusBat]

Considering I don't know you -at all- I would say most know me better lol

I am certainly hoping that you have a good reputation and want to keep it.

I have a reputation as a troll first and foremost.

Sounds a lot like "never trust a pirate" 

[Vandroiy]

Happy days, is Vandroiy already in control of his well-deserved earnings?

No, nanotube says he currently has no access to his offline wallet. Give him some time, I doubt he'd dump the WoT over 10k BTC.

I'm more worried about _matthew_'s (Matthew's?) payment though. The bet with hgmichna does not run up to the 9th, but ended with nanotube's decision on this bet. Now, does he not have access to 250 BTC, or is he not paying "just because"? Both those explanations don't sound very reassuring given that he has a lot of bets timing out soon.

[boonies4u]

Considering I don't know you -at all- I would say most know me better lol

I am certainly hoping that you have a good reputation and want to keep it.

I have a reputation as a troll first and foremost.

Sounds a lot like "never trust a pirate" 

You can trust a pirate to pirate. Just as you can trust a thief to steal and a troll to troll. It's not whether or not they are a trustworthy person, but if you are smart enough to expect the right things from them.

[Matthew N. Wright]

Happy days, is Vandroiy already in control of his well-deserved earnings?

No, nanotube says he currently has no access to his offline wallet. Give him some time, I doubt he'd dump the WoT over 10k BTC.

I'm more worried about _matthew_'s (Matthew's?) payment though. The bet with hgmichna does not run up to the 9th, but ended with nanotube's decision on this bet. Now, does he not have access to 250 BTC, or is he not paying "just because"? Both those explanations don't sound very reassuring given that he has a lot of bets timing out soon.

You've got 5000 BTC coming to you and you're "worried" about 250BTC? That's....umm

[imsaguy]

You've got 5000 BTC coming to you and you're "worried" about 250BTC? That's....umm

So basically he trusts Nanotube with 5000 btc more than you with 250 btc.. 

[bitcoinBull]

Happy days, is Vandroiy already in control of his well-deserved earnings?

No, nanotube says he currently has no access to his offline wallet. Give him some time, I doubt he'd dump the WoT over 10k BTC.

The WoT is next to worthless now anyway. after all, pirate had the highest rating. Is he still an op in #bitcoin-otc? lol

[Vandroiy]

The WoT is next to worthless now anyway. after all, pirate had the highest rating. Is he still an op in #bitcoin-otc? lol

That's not how you use it. This ain't Ebay, there is no "global highest rating". You have to check out *who* rated people highly, and it needs more time to let trusted users make a reputation.

It's trivial to spam 50 small accounts and have them all rate someone 10. Is the resulting 500-rating worth anything? Not really. But the WoT displays much more than that, and this is very useful and should become even more useful with time. Gribble also has a feature to find out how people you trust rated someone.

[imsaguy]

The WoT is next to worthless now anyway. after all, pirate had the highest rating. Is he still an op in #bitcoin-otc? lol

That's not how you use it. This ain't Ebay, there is no "global highest rating". You have to check out *who* rated people highly, and it needs more time to let trusted users make a reputation.

It's trivial to spam 50 small accounts and have them all rate someone 10. Is the resulting 500-rating worth anything? Not really. But the WoT displays much more than that, and this is very useful and should become even more useful with time. Gribble also has a feature to find out how people you trust rated someone.

Its not about the raw rating, but instead the L2 rating.  How well is the person trusted by the people you trust?

[makomk]

That's not how you use it. This ain't Ebay, there is no "global highest rating". You have to check out *who* rated people highly, and it needs more time to let trusted users make a reputation.

It's trivial to spam 50 small accounts and have them all rate someone 10. Is the resulting 500-rating worth anything? Not really. But the WoT displays much more than that, and this is very useful and should become even more useful with time. Gribble also has a feature to find out how people you trust rated someone.

The default rating displayed seems to be the global one. In any case, I believe that pirateat40 had positive ratings from a number of trusted members of the community including nanotube. The problem is that the fact that someone's carried out small Bitcoin-Paypal exchanges honestly doesn't mean they're trustworthy to handle a 500,000 BTC investment that looks strangely like a Ponzi. I believe various Silk Road customers may also have discovered this problem with ratings the hard way.