I don't need to read it.
I think you do  It doesn't matter what you think given your track record of broken logic to spin things to suit your agenda.  |
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I can buy 1 gram of gold for $50.
I can't buy 1 "gram" of a masternode for $X. (you can't buy a fractional amount of a masternode). Maybe you didn't read this: ... deflecting and distracting
I don't need to read it. I just read your broken argument that because gold is expensive per oz (over $1000) that means there is a "barrier" to entry when comparing it to Dash. As if that justifies it. Your logic is broken. Comparing gold's price to dash is silly in the context of "barrier" to entry. You can't break a master node up into pieces and buy portions of it... keep dancing  P.S. since you didnt quote the entirety of what I was responding to here it is again: What happens when 1000 dash costs $1,000,000 Is that supposed to be a criticism ?  smoothie logic: hey - gold has a high value, thats a "barrier to entry". It sure is, I'll give you that Look at your broken logic. I can buy 1 gram of gold for $50. I can't buy 1 "gram" of a masternode for $X. (you can't buy a fractional amount of a masternode). Buying gold has nothing to do with being a "mastergoldnode"....<----doesn't exist. The barrier to entry exists for dash...not for gold. Go back to the drawing board and come up with a better point of view that makes sense. Spin moar, I like the way you dance. |
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So now we're resorting to trolling me, really? I lurked BCT long before I registered thank you very much, not that I need prove anything else for that matter.
so you and your circle jerk buddies just lurk there in the dark and...boom suddenly you all registered when darkcoin was released? c'mon you can do better than that Sherlock Holmes, have you analyzed which % of current BCT-users was registered in the beginning of 2014, after Bitcoin had had the "over 1000 usd" pump-dump? Look at your date of registration... The more unusual fact is: iCEBREAKER Date Registered: June 02, 2011smoothie Date Registered: June 18, 2011oh now I'm ice breaker? Is that the theory? Sheesh even myself and ICE know we arent the same person. We have had it out many times on this forum. Do your homework. We don't agree on everything...but what we do agree on is what DASH is and what DASH isn't. |
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What happens when 1000 dash costs $1,000,000 Is that supposed to be a criticism ? smoothie logic: hey - gold has a high value, thats a "barrier to entry". It sure is, I'll give you that Look at your broken logic. I can buy 1 gram of gold for $50. I can't buy 1 "gram" of a masternode for $X. (you can't buy a fractional amount of a masternode). Buying gold has nothing to do with being a "mastergoldnode"....<----doesn't exist. The barrier to entry exists for dash...not for gold. Go back to the drawing board and come up with a better point of view that makes sense. Spin moar, I like the way you dance. |
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Risto paying you by the post smoothie?
As I said previously. I'm not being paid. But if you know someone willing to pay me to post here...kindly point me in that direction. Thanks  I like how you guys were going ape-shit in the planning channel on rubycoin getting close to monero on marketcap. did you end up deciding to FUD ruby in the end? Not sure what you are talking about ^ Link? BTW I'm not part of "you guys"....its just me SMOOTHIE. Get it right. |
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Risto paying you by the post smoothie?
As I said previously. I'm not being paid. But if you know someone willing to pay me to post here...kindly point me in that direction. Thanks |
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Empty promises:
The ring signatures V2, has a follow-up post which has been conveniently omitted. V1 didn't have the DarkSend that is now implemented, rather something like 3x10 DRK, one round. It was real-time, in the sense that you had to transact (DarkSending money) as you were mixing. I wrote something to the effect that ring signatures are DOA / they don't scale, and then Evan thought of another way to improve mixing, and V2 came out with premixing (no need to mix when sending, which improved speed massively as the money were ready to get spent), multiple rounds, various denominations etc. So people did get a much upgraded V2, although through a different implementation. Link please to the follow up post. Also please link me also to the PROOF that ring signatures don't scale. I want to see actual numbers/math/facts. Not hand waving. => " I have 2 possible solutions to evaluate for V2 of darksend (ring signatures and encrypted system where the users themselves do the joining relayed through the masternodes.) . Both of these make the masternodes unaware of who is sending money to whom, so centralization isn't an issue at that point." https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6862900#msg6862900https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6864666#msg6864666As for "proof", well Bitcoin as it is can't scale. It'd need petabytes to compete with payment systems like VISA. You think a coin that generates multiple bloat per transaction, can? It's called pruning. You can prune the block chain down to a certain subset of transactions and the network of nodes would still function normally. Perhaps all crypto coins are not attempting to directly compete with VISA/MASTERCARD. I'm guessing that based on your statement that Dash is attempting to compete with VISA etc? I'm not sure how Dash is expecting to accomplish this task in a decentralized/private way while still having DATA CENTERS or collocations setup specifically to run masternodes. May as well just use VISA. If the max supply of dash is let's say 25,000,000 (i can't remember the max at it is dependent on difficulty?) that means that the maximum amount of masternodes that could exist is 25,000 using my example cap. I'm pretty sure there are more bank locations than 25,000 world wide. What happens when 1000 dash costs $1,000,000? Isn't that a problem when you have such a high barrier to entry? It doesn't sound like decentralization but quite the opposite. It's like the barrier to entry of opening your own bank location (you have to have $X to do so). |
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Bitcoin apologists and supporters often recklessly claim that a controlled supply with the 21 million coins cap is good and beats the shit out of fiat monies as well as cryptocurrencies that don't have a limit on the number of coins mined... Why is there any question at all? It's in the code. You can't change that; it's a systematic part of the entirety of Bitcoin. Otherwise, inflation occurs and everything goes to crap, just like FIAT currencies. Well... it's just that people haven't noticed that things will get out of control with FIAT yet. That, or they're reliant on them.
They forget a few things, though Bitcoin is an experiment. It is mimicking the gold/silver supply which is limited on planet earth. Fiat doesn't do that as now you can write $1,000,000,000,000 and now you have $1trillion. |
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Buying some DAShcoin. Expecting double value a week or two
Will revisit this prediction in a week or two on this Dash price topic. |
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This deserves a repost
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Most the trolls here are clearly paid watch the sell wall on poloniex.com for dash, whenever they make a move and push the peddle on the down pressure you can be sure the trolls will turn up in droves every time... coincidence i highly doubt it!!
Please point me to the anti-dash campaign manager THREAD in which I can collect my PAY for all the posting I've done in this thread. To date I've been paid: $0, 0BTC, 0DASH, 0XMR, 0 of everything else. Thanks |
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Empty promises:
The ring signatures V2, has a follow-up post which has been conveniently omitted. V1 didn't have the DarkSend that is now implemented, rather something like 3x10 DRK, one round. It was real-time, in the sense that you had to transact (DarkSending money) as you were mixing. I wrote something to the effect that ring signatures are DOA / they don't scale, and then Evan thought of another way to improve mixing, and V2 came out with premixing (no need to mix when sending, which improved speed massively as the money were ready to get spent), multiple rounds, various denominations etc. So people did get a much upgraded V2, although through a different implementation. Link please to the follow up post. Also please link me also to the PROOF that ring signatures don't scale. I want to see actual numbers/math/facts. Not hand waving. |
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Many said Butterfly Labs was successful...so they said the same about MTGOX. LoL w.t.f. are you talking about ? If it wasn't for the fact that Dash is a public blockchain - unlike that decentralised bookkeeping system you like to claim is 'money' - nobody would even know about its history. As it is, it's been scrutinised down to the last transaction which blows your point slightly to kingdom come along with the idea that publicly accessible blockchain analysis isn't important in crypto. I'll let one of your previous core people debunk your entire statement above: darkcoin is not decentralized as it still relies on a single person. and this reaches deep into the code base.
MTGOX/BFL = Not decentralized DASH/Darkcoin = Not decentralized Get a clue . |
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Empty promises: Everyone is free to make their own decisions. Ignore me if you disagree. I think there are plenty of warnings regarding the DASH instamine and other red flags in the alt coin section already. Some people make assumptions about coin popularity based on the length of their announcement thread (although this is often a bad assumption). Why not keep our criticisms about DASH in the alt coin section devoted to those topics and ignore their announcement thread? I estimate that their announcement thread is at least 1 or 2 thousand pages longer than it should be because of people posting about their instamine and other problems. I actually have doubts that the DASH community is larger than Monero but the length of their announcement thread gives that impressive. Our Reddit page for example is more active than theirs. Some of you may have noticed that r/dashpay recently decreased from 5000 readers to about 1100 (I suspect many of their fake readers were deleted). As much as the DASH community complains I think they actually like Monero supporters posting in the DASH announcement thread to make it longer. I propose we stop posting their and post in the topics already started to discuss specific topics (instamine, lack of masternode mode blinding, mining rewards, sporks etc.) instead.
Although unprofessional behaviour by other Crypto-Currency devs, thanks for funding the promotion of DASH... We would like to thank you for keeping us top of mind on this forum. As the saying goes... There is no bad publicity! Thanks...
Please share your thoughts. Yeah now did I give a timeline for how long I will stop posting about DASH? If you noticed I never specified a time frame. So to you you can speculate on how long I was referring to when I posted that. Aha nice try buddy. Still trying to throw anything shit-wise to make it stick to the wall? Try again.  |
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smoothie - Dash is a successful, innovative project. Live with it. You'll save on keyboard wear, blood pressure cuffs and barrel scraping effort in trying to recycle the dregs of last year's fud. I'm sure 2016 will bring some fertile ground for you (Thanks in advance) Why do you presume I need "fertile ground"? I'm pretty fine where I'm at now. I just don't like scamcoins being sold as something it is not. But if it makes you feel better to condescend...condescend on! |
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There are two hash functions being used.
h <-- takes 3 parameters (m, Lj, Rj)
and
H which used Keccak(Pk)
Not sure what h is for the moment.
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I bid .36 BTC
This is the winning bid ^ Please send me your shipping info, if you are funding the coin before I ship it, and the shipping method you want me to send it. I will respond with a total that includes shipping cost to pay. This auction is now closed. |
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smoothie - Dash is a successful, innovative project. Live with it. You'll save on keyboard wear, blood pressure cuffs and barrel scraping effort in trying to recycle the dregs of last year's fud. I'm sure 2016 will bring some fertile ground for you (Thanks in advance) That is your opinion. Many said Butterfly Labs was successful...so they said the same about MTGOX. Let's agree to disagree. Dash is snake-oil crypto. |
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. This guy is a #FAIL for grasping at glass straws and coming to events with home made stapled brochures he printed using his parents ink jet.... That's #FAILING right there. You keep hanging on to ur shit coin buddy... We'll see you in the spring and see how that's working out for you. Obviously not, Risto is that delusional these days that he thinks he is some behind the scene crypto godfather come crypto jesus. Just epic failure dnaleor. How is the plan for the silent DASH protest at Miami going? You going so you can stand up and turn your back on Evan and the team? Please provide proof of your claims in bold. Thanks And his retort was "you obviously aren't invested in the coin...." funny
Wrong. That was a side note. His actual retort was the simple truth: That no one gives a flying fuck except the Flying Dutchmad himself and his few Moronero-driven friends with a pathetic agenda to push the non-competition Trollero. "No one" meaning no one in the clan of Dash supporters that will eat up anything that Evan spouts as gospel. Hardly "no one". If you notice there are quite a few people including Charlie Lee, Peter Todd, etc who have spoken out against Dash/Darkcoin/whatever So technically Evan's retort made no sense and it was distracting from the issue that was asked at that Q&A. The guy even said he owns 1 Dash. Even though Evan assumed he wasn't invested in Dash... Just because the "top 100" wallets have 18% of the total supply does not mean that other wallets or more of that 100 wallets are not owned by a few. So because Evan moved his say 100,000 Dash (an example) into 100 wallets with each a 1000 so he would have 100 masternodes....doesn't make that any more decentralized in supply than if it was in ONE wallet. And his retort was "you obviously aren't invested in the coin...." funny
in other words.. "you are obviously not one of us" what investment per se got to do with the points raised by the man? You boys are seriously struggling. Has Risto cashed out of Monero or something? Maybe he is backing Rubycoin now? boys? i don't even know the guy..dnealor, if that's him..looks kind of a guy that got bullied during school days..peace dnaleor specially with the cap. he have the guts to enter the wolf's den...i give him that  see this is the internet and crypto, i'm from the other side of the globe..i'm a ghost crypto and the internet created so i won't be there in your little circle jerk session.. sooo.. "what investment per se got to do with the points raised by the man?" anybody? He did point out a lot of promises that never got fulfilled, but obviously most of the people here are more than a little biased about the subject - don't expect to win many people over. Your point of view is spot on concerning Dash supporters. Thank you sir! He said he was gonna do a lot of shit and DID apparently back down. Dunno if he had explanations for it, though.
He's a developer, not a politician. It doesn't matter. A man's word should mean something. Just because he is a developer doesn't make his word worth less. I take offense to that because I am a software engineer by trade and take my word seriously as well as others'. He is essentially a spokes person for Dash (doing talks conferences etc). So in essence he is also operating as a salesman. Politicians are also salesmen. It isn't so far fetched to put two and two together.
Welcome to my dream..ok..back to topic."what's investment per se got to do with points raised by dnaelor"?
Many people are invested in DASH, contrary to his 'points', and the few people who back his 'points' are invested in a competing coin. I'm actually invested in BTC and Sia at the moment, and I still think it's valid. He said he was gonna do a lot of shit and DID apparently back down. Dunno if he had explanations for it, though.
Being critical of a coin/dev/community on a technical or ethical basis is fine, especially when it's done in a civilised manner. You would fall in that camp. When it's done ad nauseum, in an aggressive, militant manner, by a group of individuals who are invested in a competing coin - well, the motivation is obvious. The thing is that he promises a lot and doesn't deliver. How will Evolution turn out? Stealth development, no public testing, no peer review, nothing. Will he "change his mind" about certain aspects as well? The cool wallet features will probably stay. It's nice and shiny. But will he deliver on default instant mixing? And if so, when? Will it work? Will is keep working when stress tested by millions of users? Is it safe to sue? No attack vectors on the anonymity side? FYI: there are coins out there that already have default instant mixing that do have some "thumbs up" from reputable bitcoin/crypto people I posted about this ^ pattern a few posts back. I would speculate that the same will happen with previous developments. After the hype of the topic/buzzword of the season dies down development focus will shift somewhere else and the previous buzz-word development topic will be pushed to the back burner (if ever gotten to).
Wrong. That was a side note. His actual retort was the simple truth: That no one gives a flying fuck except the Flying Dutchmad himself and his few Moronero-driven friends with a pathetic agenda to push the non-competition Trollero.
The favorite Dashtard lie to tell themselves and others: "but... but....no one cares!" Keep telling yourselves that.  BTW if you think "Evan wiped the floor" with anyone you're delusional. Watch the video again, Evan looks like a little weasel. He's completely embarrassed that he failed to hide the instamine and that people are now wise to his antics. Eduffield and minotaur26 thought investors are so stupid that they could get aware with a 30%+ fraud instamine. Good luck with that I guess the statement concerning Dash's short comings/shadiness: "No one cares" has been debunked. This is how the algorithm currently works. Users submit lists of inputs and outputs, the masternodes either accept them or deny them. If the inputs and outputs violate a privacy rule (they must be uniform, etc), then the user will be denied access to DarkSend. Selection of the nodes to use is also random... what's the issue? We decided this wasn't a priority because we have built in Tor support. This was during the exploration of Darksend and other technologies, I hadn't made up my mind about the direction of the project yet. By the way, this is currently where the evolution project is at, there are many parts of it that are up in the air and we're figuring out what will make the best implementation possible, then we're going with that. This is just how development works for really adventurous projects. Is anyone else creating multiple tier p2p networks capable of paying autonomous agents that provide service for the network? To implement IP obfuscation it would push Evolution back about 2-3 months, then we would use it in v12 for about a year, then throw it out as soon as evolution came along, then I would have to redo the work again....What sense does that make? Thanks Evan for this post. It would appear that Evolution will be a long process to roll out. I think this was already mentioned. But for me it sounds like Butterfly Labs and their delays (never ending). Can anyone post or link me to the proposed time line of evolution and its roll out? Thanks in advance. |
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Everybody is waiting for DASH-"bottom" and is guessing that they are the luckyest who able to catch it.  Or it can simply continue to drop.. like hundreds of other scam coins The market doesn't like instamine fraud and will price this coin accordingly. Dash  The market doesn't like fraud haha.. you have no idea what your talking about crypto is spoofing and front running heaven and that is fraud!! Dash has been around for years and not going anywhere but up long term, maybe if your coin devs put in the work with a long grind maybe you can make it too, wouldnt hold your breath tho lol Wrong. Dash has been around for 1 year and 11 months. Get your facts straight. Also what coin are you talking about? I see no mention of any other coin. |
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