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2141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2018, 03:31:45 PM
Was out of the office a couple of days. Today I heard a couple of collegues actually sold at the bottom! Shaking out the weak hands really works.....  =(
There's a reason why Buffet called the stock markets a device for transfering money from the impatient to the patient.



Starman will be in oure solar system for many many years to come. Repeating the same track from 'David Bowie' -Space Oddity- You can even watch ''The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy''  Cool

And that ''Don't Panic'' on that touchscreen. 

You can follow Starman's live stream here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?_sp=080f132e-9ded-4bab-b36a-b5c49d26b832.1518016157691&time_continue=6&v=aBr2kKAHN6M
Isn't it going to run out of energy eventually? Did they say how long it'd last?
2142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟[ANN][ICO] Coinlancer.io CL - Freelancers Of The World Unite - ICO| 14th OCT🌟 on: February 07, 2018, 03:11:53 PM
Is it only me who has not received payment? because I have registered https://ico.coinlancer.com/users/login to receive the gift but until now I haven't received any. Anyone can help me with this problem?
It's a scam and the "devs" have long disappeared even from their Telegram group apparently.
2143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【ICO LIVE】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: February 07, 2018, 03:10:34 PM
When will the Early Hamster Sale stage be ended?
Once 6000 Ether has been raised, currently at 3893. So at current rates in around 1-2 weeks. Would expect a slight acceleration near the end though.
2144  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2018, 03:08:14 PM
Is it me or I have a feeling the alt season is finally coming to an end.
The alts didn't bounce as hard as I expected, or if they did, they didn't hold long.

Yesterday commission hearing was bullish for bitcoin, but bearish for alts in my opinion.

So, is the alt season f-f-f-finally ending? Or I'm just seeing shit....
You're just seeing shit.

Bitcoin is still "down" from a short-term perspective and pretty much all altcoin valuations are denominated in BTC, not USD. Once Bitcoin starts tracing back up, altcoins will probably go down in terms of BTC while roughly tracing their "original" USD valuations. Then once Bitcoin starts moving sideways, alts will play their usual catchup game.

In the meantime, whichever alts have strong changes in fundamentals will go up regardless of the current market situation.

But in short, there's certainly no reason to assume that altcoins are "ending". They are primed to be the equity of the future, especially if regulators actually start embracing cryptos. Of course, that does not include complete and utter shitcoins with no value proposition.
2145  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2018, 01:58:16 PM
It was just a typo. Things have a tendency to take on a life of their own though, like the Ugandan Knuckles conglomerate of memes for example.

I spit on you. You are not de reel qween.
My brudda. I never said I was.
2146  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2018, 01:32:45 PM
Hi guys i want to ask . What if i have sell orders then i cancelled it . There's a fee by doing that in binance?  Or none? Thnks.
No fee until your order gets triggered.
2147  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2018, 01:32:30 PM
J. Christopher Giancarlo describes HODL in the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking  ... HODL On For Dear Life - ɃItcoin .... His niece is a HODLer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSPywOS9DWU

More and more praises for Bitcoin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rWcVgffsjQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G16g9neqUFQ

This guy made my day!  Grin Grin Grin Grin

I thought HODL was just a typo error meaning HOLD from this forum a few years ago.  Not sure where he got Hold On For Dear Life from?
It was just a typo. Things have a tendency to take on a life of their own though, like the Ugandan Knuckles conglomerate of memes for example.
2148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BITCONNECT X.... on: February 07, 2018, 01:23:33 PM
Bitconnect is next to dead for now and Im sure alot of people will shy away from anything that has the name 'bitconnect' attached to it.But of course investments are risks and so there are always people who will not mind investing again in such ventures.
BitConnect was at no point an investment. It has always been an immediately obvious ponzi scheme.
2149  Other / Off-topic / Re: SPACEX FALCON HEAVY TEST LAUNCH on: February 07, 2018, 12:55:16 PM
Elon Musk is a liar and a fraud, SpaceX is a hoax.
And earth is flat and space doesn't exist.
2150  Other / Off-topic / Re: SPACEX FALCON HEAVY TEST LAUNCH on: February 07, 2018, 12:39:14 PM
I would also be cautious about assuming that radio waves would be used by such an advanced civilization. They could very well be using different frequencies. But that's overall an interesting point that I haven't really thought of yet.

What if we haven't found any other civilizations because they don't broadcast anything that we would search for into space? That combined with the tiny bit of universe that we have even attempted of exploring "in detail" so far further decreases the chances of finding anything.

When I said radio waves, I meant any kind of wave that can propagate long distances....  No matter how advanced your civilization is, you still need to use a wave that vibrates at a certain frequency.  We can detect that.

I don't know how a civilization could advance technologically without discovering waves... it is the basic means of long distance communication (except for quantum teleportation, which by theory is limited in the amount of information you can send instantly).

I agree with you that we have listened to only a small part of our galaxy.  But I believe if life formed here, it formed in a trillion other places around the universe.  Chances are one of those civilizations is within one hundred light years from us, so we could detect something in the small amount of time we have been listening.

That being said, if a civilization was even 200 years ahead of us, they would have moved past waves for communication (like we do now with fibre) and would be silent and invisible to us.   Chances are, if at least one civilization like this exists, they are a lot more than 200 years ahead of us. 

We could have intelligent neighbours less than a dozen years away, who communicate in the way our internet does - point to point.
I'm not sure to what extent the frequency matters while "scanning" the universe though. If a civilization used a frequency that we dismiss as inconspicuous they could've slipped our attention while in plain sight.

And I agree with the notion that life is all around the universe. I am ~99% leaning towards believing that the universe is infinite in size and that there's any number of life out there. But in such a universe there's also going to be any number of civilizations that have yet to find any life other than them, as well as any number of civilizations that will either never find any life or simply be convinced that none exists.

Weren't we deliberately sending out signals to try and contact or attract the attention of aliens by the way? Although even in that case, I don't think it would be possible for us to cover the whole globe and to send a signal into all directions simultaneously, which has a compounding effect by distance travelled of the signal. The more I think about this the more absurd the idea of finding any civilization becomes. There seem to be a ton of factors that could make finding life extremely difficult even "close by".
2151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Deep Onion sleeping giant?! on: February 07, 2018, 12:17:17 PM
i hold some coins but i m disappointed a bit because price fell from 19$ to 3$ with running airdrop. what will happen after airdrop with the price?

Not only DeepOnioj, but the whole crypto world had a crash. So, I think there is no problem with that.
Bitcoin didn't drop from 12k to 1,8k like DO effectively did. Neither did any of the other real cryptos.
2152  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2018, 12:16:00 PM
The next question is what are all these shitcoins going to do. I would prefer if ETH just stayed went down, rather than running even more than btc.

ETH is a disease carrier.

ETH is a store of vulnerabilities
Wasn't that just Parity?
2153  Other / Off-topic / Re: SPACEX FALCON HEAVY TEST LAUNCH on: February 07, 2018, 12:15:01 PM
Why do we have to reach everywhere?  We only need to look nearby.  What if a civilization evolved a million years ahead of us (almost 100% probability when you look at the numbers) - they would be expanding and colonizing by now.  Why haven't we detected anything?

Possible answer:  Earth only broadcast into space for a little under a hundred years.  Now we are mostly digital - which does not send any radio waves into space.  If someone was looking for us, they would have to detect us in that timeframe.   So what are the chances we will detect another civilization via radio waves?

If humanity survives and goes out to the stars, I believe the first contact we will have with another life form is when we invade their planet with our colony vessels.  :/
We don't have to look everywhere, but as far as I'm aware we have looked virtually nowhere so far. I would also be cautious about assuming that radio waves would be used by such an advanced civilization. They could very well be using different frequencies. But that's overall an interesting point that I haven't really thought of yet.

What if we haven't found any other civilizations because they don't broadcast anything that we would search for into space? That combined with the tiny bit of universe that we have even attempted of exploring "in detail" so far further decreases the chances of finding anything.
2154  Other / Off-topic / Re: Laptop/PC Protection on: February 07, 2018, 11:52:12 AM
Use Adblock, Noscript, and don't download random shit. Then keep your crypto stash on cold storage wallets and you won't really have to worry about an Antivirus or the like.
2155  Other / Off-topic / Re: SPACEX FALCON HEAVY TEST LAUNCH on: February 07, 2018, 11:50:55 AM
We're orbiting a second generation star, so every being that evolved under the first generation stars should be billions of years ahead of us in technology, right?

Actually, that's faulty logic on my part....   First generation stars would have been created from nothing but Hydrogen and Helium.  There would be no planets.  The first generation stars would have created and distributed the heavy elements that form our planets and current sun via supernova.   So first generation stars could not have produced life.  :/
I haven't studied astrophysics so I wouldn't know this. But that could be another potential reason for not seeing anybody around us. Tongue
2156  Other / Off-topic / Re: SPACEX FALCON HEAVY TEST LAUNCH on: February 07, 2018, 11:49:44 AM
By that logic, the galaxy should be partly colonized already by civilizations that have been around longer than we have.  We're orbiting a second generation star, so every being that evolved under the first generation stars should be billions of years ahead of us in technology, right?
That would require a civilization to actually have existed for a long enough time to be millions/billions of years ahead of us without having gone extinct. They would also have to exist in sufficient proximity of us.

Who knows how many galaxies (if any) are already partially or even fully colonized, but simply beyond our reach? We can only see as far as the light allows us to. And if the actual, rather than just the observable, universe is actually expanding faster than light that would make it virtually impossible to even attempt reaching some places. Given the potentially infinite size of the universe it seems potentially infinitely improbable for such a civilization not to exist in some place. But we know for fact that we haven't really seen shit yet. Maybe we got lucky and we're the first to get a shot, or maybe we're unlucky and just happened to be dropped in a place with nobody else close by.
2157  Other / Off-topic / Re: SPACEX FALCON HEAVY TEST LAUNCH on: February 07, 2018, 11:35:02 AM
As far as colonizing the galaxy goes. I don't have the exact numbers of the milky way in my head anymore, but wouldn't it be possible for humans to just go from planet to planet slowly if we were capable of moving around close to the speed of light?

You can't just jump to the speed of light.  You need to accelerate large amounts of mass to 99% the speed of light - it takes INCREDIBLE amounts of energy (E=MC^2 and we know what a large number C is).

Currently, the slowest form of propulsion, and the most fuel-efficient, is the ion engine.  For the first half of your journey you would be pressed into your seat by acceleration, then the second half you would be turned around and pressed into your seat by deceleration.  I guess we would probably need to be unconscious.

Proxima Centauri is the nearest star, and it is ONLY 4.24 light years away.

So if ionic propulsion were to be used for a mission to Proxima Centauri, the thrusters would need a huge source of energy production (i.e. nuclear power) and a large quantity of propellant (although still less than conventional rockets). But based on the assumption that a supply of 81.5 kg of xenon propellant translates into a maximum velocity of 56,000 km/hr (and that there are no other forms of propulsion available, such as a gravitational slingshot to accelerate it further), some calculations can be made.

In short, at a maximum velocity of 56,000 km/h, you would take over 81,000 years to traverse the 4.24 light years between Earth and Proxima Centauri. To put that time-scale into perspective, that would be over 2,700 human generations.

Our Galaxy is 980,000 light years across.  :/
That would mean something like 2 million years at 50% the speed of light to get across. Let's be generous and overestimate to upwards of 10 million years to colonize whatever can be. That's virtually nothing compared to the time until a potential heat death, which may or may not even take place.

Without any means for teleportation/breaking the speed limit it would certainly require many generations of people to even get to every place that humans can settle in, but it's not impossible. And if humans don't get wiped out by themselves or some natural extinction kind of event, I don't see why we wouldn't end up colonizing the galaxy. In fact, it would seem inevitable to me if humans don't die out. Who knows if whatever reaches different places can still be called human though, the differences are bound to be quite drastic on those time scales. Communication would be pretty much nonexistant without superluminal transmission of information as well and a holiday trip across the galaxy won't be possible either, which makes the whole prospect at least as exciting as sobering.

As far as energy is concerned: https://ourworldindata.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/global-primary-energy-consumption-1800-2015-1.png
And we're still absolutely terrible at harnessing the energy output of the sun. Plus, if "uploading human consciousness" turns out to be possible, the amount of mass that would have to be sent through space could be drastically lowered. That would also allow for conscious travel, perhaps within a digital world. Although that would seem to make the whole endeavour redundant beyond climbing a mountain simply because it's there.
2158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is Ripple Going To Reach 10,000$ By 2020? on: February 07, 2018, 10:06:09 AM
haha What a crazy dream of you you think about it. Try a simple calculation. If XRP is as you say, the total capitalization will be how much. It is not unthinkable Grin
If Ripple was backed by equity and derivatives... maybe. But that's not going to happen.
2159  Other / Off-topic / Re: SPACEX FALCON HEAVY TEST LAUNCH on: February 07, 2018, 10:02:33 AM
Ah, you calling Einstein a little bitch eh?   Tongue

The running theory is that the speed of light is the limit in our universe.  We've even observed gravity waves moving out at the speed of light - but no faster.

Think about this for a second - if the speed of light is the absolute speed limit, then we will never meet alien life, nor we will colonize the galaxy.

Sobering thoughts.  :/
He was a nerd, of course he's a little bitch. Tongue

Jokes aside, while it's well possible that light is the end all be all upper speed limit, I still haven't seen anything that convinced me of that being the case. Heck, we're incapable of even really studying something like 95% of the "stuff" in our observable universe alone, and who knows how much is outside of it. Given from what I've learned from studying Mathematics I don't think that the universe could be in any way finite, so I'm expecting there to be an infinite amount of knowledge to be created in the future for as long as conscious beings exist. The "worst case" scenario would be that we're simply incapable of accessing superluminal speeds (as humans), but I would be quite surprised if they really weren't possible. Viability of practical applications aside, entanglement technically is one type of superluminal transmission of information that we know to exist.

As far as colonizing the galaxy goes. I don't have the exact numbers of the milky way in my head anymore, but wouldn't it be possible for humans to just go from planet to planet slowly if we were capable of moving around close to the speed of light? Galaxies other than the Milky Way would be a completely different story though. And that's ignoring the problem of the expansion of the universe, which drives "stuff" further away from us as time passes.

The sheer size of the universe makes it quite sobering to think of all the stuff that we might never experience if death turns out to be an actual end though. I'm already overloaded with things that I want to do just on earth alone right now, nevermind what will be possible in the near future.
2160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Deep Onion sleeping giant?! on: February 07, 2018, 09:39:56 AM
I think the coin still has potential. The price drop was only due to bitcoin and the entire cryptocurrency. Now that the market is over, I think the onion should have returned to normal.
You could make that argument if DO didn't drop by nearly 85%. Smiley
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