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221  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TagCoin - The World's First Rewards Coin (mandatory update to 1.0.5) on: March 01, 2014, 08:19:36 PM
I'd like to point out that, according to Mark in the beginning, TAG was a large part of their business and what they're doing. Now he's saying it's a small part? The backbone to your business model can't be a small part. Downplaying the backbone is an immediate indicator that someone is trying to shift focus.

The value means little to the business? Of course that's a fact, because if the value was $5/tag you couldn't sell it for profit. And you encourage folks to spread the word and raise the value, this is true and makes sense, but it's also not our job to do that.

Sounds like some fluffing has been going on for awhile with the community. I'm finally going to throw some stuff out on the table for everyone to consider. Keep in mind, I have about 3 pages worth of data points along with timelines, but am condensing everything into a few paragraphs to make it easier to digest.

Speculating here, BUT, I think what's going on is simple...

First, the rough timeline, and then beyond this the TLDR explanation:

Inception->December:
Mark builds TAG up bigtime, things are established, and straightway the value is stabilized fairly high
Very active TAG folks, more than just one apparent "TAG" employee were in the thread originally (now vanished)
No network issues despite the calculated network hashrate being high and growing
People are curious why there's no network hashrate monitor (though you can reverse engineer one somewhat)

December->January
TAG starts climbing in value more, and more
Mark announces a business trip and leaves, which makes the value go up even more
Shortly after being airborn, network comes under "some sort of attack", looks like an RPC DDOS
Lots of technical issues arose suddenly during his absence
Value of TAG drops
Mark discourages programmers from discussing what could be wrong, because their "expert developer" has proven the code is perfect
Orphans are rampant, along with previously-confirmed-blocks being orphaned later on
People are still curious why there's no network hashrate monitor (though you can reverse engineer one somewhat)
Mark explained with certainty that POS was causing the issues, and would be removed
The downward trend of TAG value stabilizes, lots of people mining and holding waiting for the "fix"


February
The long awaited "fix" to the problems is put in place
Shortly after, value goes up on the markets as people's confidence increases
Some issues are mitigated, but there's still notable issues
It's discussed among some others, including other coin devs, that POS should be removed and/or old clients should be disconnected
Mark quietly stops talking about removing POS
Value of TAG begins dropping again
Mark's presence in his thread is sparse, mostly regarding pool OPs complaining about issues
TAG value hits all time lows, but the network difficulty remains stable with more upward trends than downward ones

Additional point for consideration
The known public hashrate doesn't come close to the calculated hashrate, nor the difficulty. This has to mean 3/4 of the network rate is private/unknown.

The TLDR version of everything is this:

Mark is out to make money, whether it's long term or short term, and he's good at it. Nothing wrong with that, I support that. With the community value of TAG low, he can buy it up and hoard it for cheap--he has a cheap source. Keep 'hoard' in mind as you read this. Then, he resells at virtually 3-5x the price (or whatever the case may be) to the retailers, essentially putting it officially "in circulation", with a nice margin of profit. While stability of value makes things easier, the more important thing is the value doesn't increase beyond a certain threshold, otherwise he has to rely on self-mining and deal with that overhead. This means if the value of TAG begins to encroach upon a certain level, or goes over it, the market value of TAG has to be dropped somehow in order for the business model to be viable.

His business model requires a rewards transport mechanism which has fractional value, preferably a mechanism which requires hardly any upkeep or money to keep the momentum going. What better system than a community-mined crypto coin? To supplement and secure the transactions, he also has his own mining farm, either physically and/or has hired some hashpower to do it for him, giving them a cut of the margin.

With this system you want (and need) to build up the business end and other areas, once the coin has pretty much established itself and is being processed by the mining community. Orphans, network issues and many other things can cause the market value to drop. This is bad for pools/miners. Does it affect the business-end? No, nor will they care, because transactions are occurring regardless. In fact, the lower the market value the better, because the END customer is not in the crypto-world, they're purchasing TAG at a set value with no regard to the market value.

It would be like buying bags of Skittles Candy (pic) and selling them individually to unknowing folks, for huge markups, as special happy pills. So when an issue is identified with POS, and the creater/owner of the coin admits there's a problem and says it should be removed, but then doesn't remove it.. that was another interesting point for me to note. If someone had a large hoard of coins, 100k or more, they would be earning 1,500+ with POS. Not much, but still it's "free" coins. So they would get hurt with POS removed.

It's interesting to note that the community asked for POS to be removed, but it still hasn't been. Also, remember how part of the problem was to prevent older clients from connecting? That hasn't been implemented either. Gee, that's weird isn't it?

Now, think about this. You want to hurt the coin? Mine and dump it. That will settle its' value down low.. down to 0.00000001 even. That's low! But guess what? That doesn't hurt the TAG business model! That's the intrinsic beauty in Mark's system (kudos). That only hurts the mining community's paycheck for doing TAG's work. The TAG owners will still sell that .00000001btc valued TAG for $2. Essentially, the bitcointalk mining community then becomes the super-cheap sweat-shop labor force for the Nike of the Crypto world. If you're fine with that, then that's cool, but i just think it's worth pointing out. The only thing which hurts the business model is TAG which has a high market value (.002 or more at the time).

The system is designed to essentially be exponentially-self-rewarding for its owners. Not the mining community, and not the retailers.

In the end, you have a business model which relies on super duper cheap (practically donated) transaction power (hence, the TAG pools), producing coins which are losing value even as I type, which are then resold as a hard unit to customers at a much higher--static--price, helping to line the business' coffers with decent margins. It then makes for a GREAT business to be re-sold, showing large profit margins on paper... perfectly planned and executed venture capitalistic project. TAG worth 1 penny sold for $2? Done. TAG worth a ten-thousandth of a quid sold for $2? Done. You see how that works?

I'll leave additional speculation up to everyone else, but I think from a business standpoint, Mark has done quite a job, and should be praised. As to the mining community, if you want to save electricity, mine something else, or everyone needs to set the market value of TAG super high. Everyone could stop transacting TAG and it would continue because with how many coins Mark likely has, and with how few retailers are involved, there doesn't need to be alot of hashpower right now. I'm sure his own farm would work fine.

END TLDR version.


222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Mincoin to pass Maxcoin soon? on: February 28, 2014, 09:47:54 PM
No premine? You're either blind, or an idiot.



Actually, who am I kidding. You're just a bottom of the barrel conman.
223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Chinese promotion media of Earthcoin has dissolved on: February 28, 2014, 04:13:05 AM
They've already dumped the premine and don't care what happens to the coin at this point.
224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Mincoin to pass Maxcoin soon? on: February 27, 2014, 10:18:04 PM
Stop flogging that dead horse with your silly hazzard writeup. go and look at some facts instead of fairy tails.
You seem flustered. What is more factual than blockchain data? Do you deny the massive premine and dump that very clearly occured? Cheesy

PS: It's Hazard. One z.
225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TEKcoin selling out at cryptsy! only 20k left on: February 27, 2014, 05:51:10 PM
Because hyperinflation is good for a currency, and people minting mass amounts which will soon be dumped is good for an investor. Roll Eyes
226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] CryptoLife.net - Hard hitting cryptocurrency news and analysis on: February 26, 2014, 06:35:21 PM
A breakdown of anonymizing cryptocurrencies

http://cryptolife.net/breakdown-anonymizing-cryptocurrencies/
227  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which coins are the BIGGEST SCAM COINS from this last wave?? - tell us here. on: February 24, 2014, 05:32:24 PM
Mincoin
228  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Somebody compile an linux version of an altcoin for me... I'll tipyou Bitcoins on: February 23, 2014, 07:25:27 PM
Some bitcoins? So like, 2 or 3?
229  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WOLF] 80 BTC PUMP TODAY AT POLONIEX, DON'T MISS IT on: February 23, 2014, 02:18:34 PM
Yes, surely Roll Eyes
230  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Earthcoin comes back the altcoin candidates list of BTC38 Altcoin Database on: February 23, 2014, 02:18:07 PM
After they launched the coin, their biggest concern was that they could not dump the premine fast enough.

This was straight from the horses mouth.
231  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DGC] DigitalCoin | Secure. Established. Active Development | Only 9% Mined on: February 23, 2014, 12:33:07 AM
CryptoAve is now open!

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232  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: *** TAKEICOIN will have a large PRESS RELEASE next week [TAK]*** on: February 22, 2014, 01:53:00 PM
Another scam brought to you by the same guys behind worldcoin.
233  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TiPS ★ Kimotos Gravity Well ★ Coin anonymizer launched! on: February 21, 2014, 01:48:19 PM
You know, I'd really like to take a look at exactly how this coin mixing feature works, but the github is not updated for whatever reason Roll Eyes

sorry for inconvenience, it will be all in place soon.

To answer your question- coins you send are distributed between mixing nodes, that
mix your coins with other's, and send the exact amount forward. Additionally there are
some spare coins floating between nodes.

It is as secure, as it can be. Enjoy.

also see this for a more technical explanation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=471660.0

and btw. the exact code is not published.
Yes, I understand that much, it's loosely based off stablecoin's proposed implementation. I've had some people from this thread email me requesting to write an article, and that's not something I can do without seeing the source code.
234  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TiPS ★ Kimotos Gravity Well ★ Coin anonymizer launched! on: February 21, 2014, 01:09:47 PM
You know, I'd really like to take a look at exactly how this coin mixing feature works, but the github is not updated for whatever reason Roll Eyes
235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Debunking WorldCoin scam accusations one by one on: February 20, 2014, 10:43:03 PM
Re #2: You must have forgot that the worldcoin foundation was heavily pumping scharmbeck in the months leading up to its release. Then, when it fell flat on it's face, they try to distance themselves as much as possible

But, you already knew that, and you're just trying to lure in some new bagholders.
236  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WorldCoin (WDC) has bottomed - exciting things ahead on: February 20, 2014, 06:45:43 PM
Bagholder trying to sell his bags.
237  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: idea: adaptive block rewards, a design criteria to punish large pools on: February 18, 2014, 09:55:45 PM
Quote
found by a certain client
Ok, sure. So I'll just find a block and then broadcast it from a different IP address. Your system is defeated.
238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] CryptoLife.net - Hard hitting cryptocurrency news and analysis on: February 18, 2014, 09:36:40 PM
Introducing the CryptoLife Forum

http://cryptolife.net/introducing-cryptolife-forum
239  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Developer for brilliant new Alt Coin on: February 18, 2014, 01:11:35 AM
the total number of coins I came up with is modelled after how the u.s.a distributes 10 dollar bills annually. I believe the total number of coins that can be produced should encrouage new people to get in the virtual currency without fear that it's price is too high for them to.buy, say because there won't be a large amount of the coin ever produced, ehm bitcoin..., or the price too low for the coin to have any real practical purpose.
There are 2,100,000,000,000,000 distinct units of Bitcoin. Explain how this is not enough? Huh
240  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ALTCOIN DETECTIVE BitsharesAGS and BitsharesPTS(protoshares) --- Faking Volume? on: February 18, 2014, 12:25:43 AM
Protoshares is super sketchy to begin with

http://altoidnerd.com/2013/12/12/a-reminder-to-myself-and-others-why-protoshares-ridiculously-stupid/
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