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2201  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are we going to recover or continue to dump? on: June 30, 2022, 08:51:47 PM
What are your current opinions on the cryptocurrency market?
We are dumping once again on which it might be able to break that 17k support or recent low if this incremental movements which is 18k at the moment but we cant really say if this one would be the last
plummet or would be continous on dropping until we reach that 8-10k where everybody is really eyeing on based up on analysis.We know that it cant really be always precise but once those speculative
approach and sentiments then we do already have the idea that it could really happen but of course it would really be depending but in overall on what things could possibly happen
then my pocket is ready on catching those cheap coins and able to accumulate but lets see if those things would happen or not because its really just too low.
2202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ? on: June 30, 2022, 07:42:17 PM
Ofcourse, we can tell if there's something fishy because we've been watching our preferred sports for a long time so we will really know if the game/fight is rigged. Anyhow, we will just feel discouraged about that fact but we will always find ourselves watching the same sport Grin

I believe that rigging of games or fight are still common in low league sports and not in big events, they quite know that it is too risky if they will rigged a big event.
Even if we know something is suspicious, we won't be able to do much because we are just ordinary citizens with no power to protest against the fraud. Unless someone sees that the match is rigged and he has the power to protest it, the protest can only succeed in attracting public attention. Fraud can happen without the public knowing it because the people who organize the fraud have the power to control the people around them. So we can only allow cheating even though we know it.

Proving that a game is rigged comes with a price and it would take a long time just to prove that there is indeed a cheating happened in that certain match/game. As an ordinary citizens, we can only speculate it without having the chance to prove it because our voice is not that important compared to the minds who made the cheating happen.
It is true that a single person cannot do much especially since they are not going to have evidence of what they are witnessing and any authority can easily disregard what they are saying, however if a great deal of people think a particular event was fixed then as a group they can apply pressure for an investigation to take place, also those complains could reach the ears of the losing team or athlete and they could demand and investigation as well, so fans as a whole can still have an effect as long as they act as a group.
You are right because if you are the only one who would really be tending to argue out that it was fixed then it would be most likely to be ignored but when in groups then it could create out some noise
which can definitely or possibly able to reach out but of course this  doesnt only talk about small numbers of person but rather on the entire fans or supporters of such team where they are really
that complaining about the fairness of the game.We cant really deny that fixed games could really be possible but pointing it out or making out complaints would really be a challenge already
neither you would really be getting some attention but most of the time you would really get ignored or something that you cant do even if you do want to prove out at least.
2203  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "I'll wait for the dip!" - The Crypto Noob Cycle on: June 29, 2022, 11:48:40 PM
*Bitcoin drops 10%*  -  "I'll wait for it to drop further"

*Bitcoin drops another 10%*  -  "it's going to drop more"

*Bitcoin drops another 10%*  -  "I'll finally buy at another 10% drop"

*Bitcoin drops another 10%*  -  "looks like it's going to drop further"

*Bitcoin drops another 20%*  -  "I'm not buying. bitcoin is dead"

*Bitcoin reaches the price floor, then rises slowly for months an months*  -  "I'll wait for the dip"



- repeat after every halving cycle -
Its a never ending cycle even not noobs or lets say those who do have experience will really be having this very common impression and mindset towards the market which isnt
something surprising because market is unpredictable on the first place which do basically means that pointing out the bottom was always been a challenge or something
you cant really able to deal off with it easily. Waiting for the dip or going for the bottom is what we do go all after all the time even short traders or swing traders do really
mind off and not really just solely focusing on current trends and current fundamentals or events.
2204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minor Protection From Gambling on: June 29, 2022, 10:47:35 PM
This is true and I personally experienced it as a growing child. I have a father that’s already quit on gambling but witness him doing it when I was a child before he finally stop, I become curious on what is it and entertained at the same time because I saw that he manage to grow his money by just playing around. And then I personally try it and suffer loses and that time I realized that gambling is not easy. After that, I’m not that much excited in gambling unlike before that I only knew that I can grow my money by just playing it without even thinking about the risk involved.
Are you still actively gambling and your dad knows it?
I think if he finds out then he will warn you to stop because he has reason and experience to quit gambling. Even if you are not very passionate about gambling but the location around you may not completely stop gambling and you are still playing small slots in gambling. I think you should follow your father's decision from an early age to stop gambling, because it will be difficult to leave gambling addiction if you are used to gambling due to influences from around.
Matured people do really knows most of the thing yet they are aware on what are the possible things that could happen specially in talks about gambling addiction.For those who are just young and already
get involved with these stuffs then its wise that you should get some consultation or permission or simply letting your parents know on what  you are dealing but we know that not all youngsters do really
tend to tell on what they are up to or dealing with into their parents which would really resulted into something like this.You cant really filter out or totally get rid of minors who could potentially
able to play gambling in todays era on which accessibility is almost reachable on a simple click.
2205  Economy / Speculation / Re: Speculators : Bitcoins is up now 21k buy buy buy ! but... on: June 29, 2022, 09:41:48 PM
Speculators : "Bitcoins is up now 21k buy buy buy ! yeah 100k coming soon  "....but it was 47k this March and 61k in 2021 ... so how the ..f..uck is bitcoin a winner ?

The only guys that won are speculators/traders that pumped and dumped and miners, the rest got wiped out ...

It starting to feel that "Bitcoin game" is a scam ...a big ponzi ...
Bitcoin is a scam or ponzi kind of line is to those people who had been fucked up by the market very hard.If you've been here on this market for a while then you wont really be definitely saying up these things.
Price is never been predictable on the first place and if we do consider on checking out the history or past events then it is  something that cant really be make up some pattern or you could make use of the
same analysis but you could definitely see on how potential the market would be in speaking on bullish runs which is something that most people been keep an eye on.Price fluctuates and pumps and
this is where people do make out money which is on volatility.If you cant bare up that kind of movement then this market isnt really for you.
2206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on how I controlled my Gambling addiction. on: June 29, 2022, 08:41:57 PM
Gambling addiction is the toughest problem for a gambler but unfortunately, they don't know how to solve it.
It's not that gamblers don't know but I think a lot of them underestimate their own issue so they wouldn't focus on it as much as they should before it gets worse.

On the other hand I think blocking yourself from watching football matches is extreme. Sports is something very healthy for people, and competition is cool. I wouldn't do that so.
As a sports bettor, it's understandable as sometimes you're better off not watching any matches than getting tempted to gamble if you still allow yourself to watch a match from time to time.
It's mind over matter which is hard for gamblers who aren't able to control their emotions. They let their urges and desire win over what doing what they think is right. If we don't control our emotions in the first place, it will be the one who will take over on controlling us which could lead to wrong decisions or worse, to gambling addiction.
Avoiding anything that is related to gambling will be the best step for us to get rid of betting but to totally eliminate it, we should learn how to discipline ourselves.
Once your mind and emotions arent fixed or simply saying that you arent dedicative on quitting or stopping or simply controlling your gambling habits then you would really be failing out on stopping your addiction.
It is really just a matter of self acceptance and good control about your aims and goals through gambling whether its for entertainment or for making yourself rich which we know that it is really a very wrong
mindset to mold whenever you do deal with gambling which this kind of motive or intent would really be pushing you into the line on which it would result into desperation which comes next on your action
ending up on that multiple or severe losses which would really be worsening up the situation whether you could able to recover from it or would be totally messing up your entire life because of it.
2207  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are we going to recover or continue to dump? on: June 28, 2022, 07:44:57 PM
What are your current opinions on the cryptocurrency market?
I think for now the most likely outcome is that we will continue to see a ranging market for some time, the price has already decreased a great deal from the all time high and there is not really a lot of interest from the bulls to try to push the price upwards.

So the most likely outcome for the next months is to see bitcoin moving around the 20k level, and about what it will happen after those months pass by it is difficult to predict and it will depend on how the economy is doing at the time, however it is possible we could see a further decrease in the price of bitcoin, and while this may be bad news for some, for those which have some cash available this will be yet another opportunity to buy bitcoin for sub 20k prices.
The hardest time on making out decision is on the time that the market is really on that ranging or moving sideways condition which it is really hard to make up some position whether you would go for long or short
but if you are going for long term then it wont really be that an issue for you to make out some accumulation with the current prices considering that we are on deep negative percentage  if we do compare it on ATH
which is already a considerable factor for you to get in but if you do go for shorter trades then you would be mindful on positioning yourself because you cant really just make out some actions without having any
basis because price could drop even more on the time after you had positioned yourself which make things normally been hard for us traders or investors.
2208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Type of Gambler Am I? on: June 28, 2022, 07:05:52 PM
Based on the result of the poll, the majority of us here are on the safe side of gambling as both the Casual Social Gamblers and Conservative Gamblers are two options that are on the safe side, I hope it will keep this way, this only shows that our community is a community of safe players as they know the harm of too much gambling.
Even though most people voted for those two it's still not enough to say that the community doesn't have any problem with gambling and probably there are countless gamblers that haven't voted or even checked this thread.the end of the season.

True and as far as I know, any type of gambler can easily shift to a compulsive gambler if he loses himself in gambling.  Every player started like any of those types except professional, anti-social, and compulsive gamblers. Once these gamblers succumb to the urge of gambling then that is where the problem begins.


There's always a tendency for some switch up because emotion would be your primary enemy when it comes to this manner specially with gambling which is mostly dealing with something valuable which its normal for us to make out some reactions whenever we do lose on every bet.You cant really be sure that you would really be remaining conservative on the time you would be experience losing streak.There would really be some switch up but of course not all people would really be having those kind of behavior and there are people who do really remain their composure and stick on what they do have in mind since from the start.
I am considering myself to be that conservative on which im really that keen when it comes to finances which if i do see that im losing too much then i would really be making out those sudden decisions
on stopping.
2209  Economy / Economics / Re: How Will Investing Help the Economy of a Country on: June 27, 2022, 10:53:14 PM
Do you think when the country invest in Bitcoin, it do have 100% guarantee Bitcoin price will increase? No, you need to check on the coinmarketcap or coingecko and look at the chart, it will tell you Bitcoin price now are continue to drop and we don't know when it will really recover. Perhaps the Bitcoin halving on 2024 will make a new ATH.
One thing we need to understand about Bitcoin investment is that it is not some kind of Ponzi or quick money investment,  there is no guarantee about the increase in price of Bitcoin that is true but there is a hope for a possible increase in orice before the end of the year that alone makes it a good future investment.
Doesnt matter if you do invest on stocks/forex/gold/indices/crypto yet everything investments wont really give out that guarantee that you could really be ending up on having positive outcome or results.
Come to think that this isnt something regulated which government could really get some tax for some economic development or contribution which crypto investment isnt something relevant in terms or talks
about progress or something like that but as an individual on having that personal situation then investing could really make yourself a little bit more progresses or enhanced in terms of life style or status.
2210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you trust a gambler with your money/savings? on: June 27, 2022, 09:13:14 PM
- Are gamblers eligible to hold financial positions?

Regular gamblers, yes. Problem gamblers, no. And not only because a company's money are at risk, but because giving money to gamling addicts can aggravate their problem.

- Do problem gamblers deserve a second chance to hold a financial position?

Absolutely. Gambling addiction is treatable. I personally know a guy healed from it several years ago, who've never had any issues since.

Identifying problem gamblers however is hard, you can never tell a guy have a gambling problem until you learn its too late. Unless you live with him in the same house. Problem gamblers hide the vice to a long time, you will only learn they've got this problem when its pretty obvious already which he is selling his watch, car or properties which is worse.

I think he will have to experience the great loss first before learning to accept, treated to get healed.

Normal that we wont really be seeing on what people been dealing with until you do able to discover if its indeed too late.Speaking about trusting someone with my money then it would really be just common sense
that you would really be having those kind doubts whenever you do know that someone is really dealing up with gambling.I know that we are just too judgemental but it cant really be avoided since our instincts do tell us on what would be the probabilities of things to happen considering that you do know that someone is really dealing up with gambling which means that tendency or chances could happen and thats something
that you do really want to happen.I know that its a bit harsh or not to ethical on accusing someone or making out conclusions but i could really say that its really hard not to mind off if you do know something.
2211  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Alt coins are About to pump again! on: June 27, 2022, 08:23:05 PM
Look at Eth/Btc Chart. looks like it has found the bottom. i see a clear uptrend towards 0.08. In this case alts can be pumped too. so keep your eye on At Altcoins. This could bebthe start of a relief rally. but i dont think so that will be oump towards ATH. expecting just a relief rally only.
 Roll Eyes

Very soon we are going to enter the next phase of the market since is shows like the dip of Bitcoin had been exhausted and soon altcoins season will come onboard. Looking at the Bitcoin price trendlines, we can see that Bitcoin had already touched the last support and this is the time for us to get prepared for the next season of bull run. The market Is already ranging now before everything start going bull.
When its oversold then it cant really be staying on that state forever on which u-turn or trend changing would really happen and we know that once that Bitcoin would really be having a bullish run then expect that alts

would definitely do the same thats why its not really bad to have that consideration on accumulating alts on this price situation that we do have at this moment where everything is really cheap than few months ago.
Its not really that a bad idea but of course you should invest only on the amount which you can afford to lose and dont go overboard and set out limitations and dont go all in.
Pump is inevitable because market cant really just have one movement which is impossible thats why expect for something like this to happen but we dont know on what would happen.
2212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Government Owned Online Casinos What Do You Think Of Its Potential on: June 27, 2022, 06:53:16 PM
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No country government will be in support of gambling so saying that the government will manage gambling I think it's a wrong idea in all form because government agitate for gambling that is why gambling is not officially legalized in some certain City and people who play it play it in a hidden way so government can never manage gambling because it is prohibited.
As far as I know, currently there are 3 countries in the world that fully legalize gambling in their country without city limits, namely Hong Kong, Spain and Italy cmiiw. but on average the gambling business there is managed by the private sector (because maybe the government in that country is aware that it is not easy to manage it). Gambling is not an easy business, even the government may not be able to manage it if given the opportunity.
Management problem? I dont see that this is a main reason on why there are government who doesnt really tend to make out their own casinos but rather letting those private business owners would do the thing.
For sure there are some reasons about possible impressions towards the society and they are really just tending to avoid such issue that they are letting gambling for the benefit of the whole country?
thats if those taxes and revenues would really be applied on the right way and not to be corrupted then i dont see a problem but if it does happen the other way around then for sure
they would really be taking all the blame and they dont really like that but those are just my presumptions.We dont actually know on whats the reason on why they arent tending to
make their own on their respective vicinity if they are really aiming for supporting economic development.?
2213  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: A Little way to find Good campaigns on: June 25, 2022, 09:24:45 PM
I don't think that stalking campaign managers in order to find campaigns is good idea.I see this topic more like merit hunting attempt. I don't really know why  to make things complicated? Wouldn't be easier just to check Service board on regular basis to check for active campaigns.
Or probably best to use Telegram bot and you won't have to do thing manually. You simply will get notification to your Telegram app.

My thought here. Having to stalk every campaign manager in order to see when campaigns are launched or opened to me isn't the best to do. Besides some of these managers are also bounty managers and anyone not interested in bounty will keep seeing the bounty updates.
Some of the managers are wearing signature and completing post quotas which will make their timeline like other users.

What I did was to place the service board on watch, by this I get notified when any new post comes to the service board. But after I joined a long campaign, I unwatched the board.
You both are correct, I've never been so desperate for new campaign to the extent of stalking campaign managers, like both of you, what I've always done is checking the service board regularly, and thanks @uchegod-21 for that wonderful idea, though I make use of the telegram bot to get notifications for mentions and merits and other stuffs, it has never occurred to me to use the bot to monitor activities on any section or board of the forum, we sure would never stop learning no matter how long we live or think we know  Grin Grin.
Stalking without having that kind of interaction or engagement like Pm'ming is still considerable but the best way on monitoring new campaigns is to visit out Services section board every now and then or if you do have the ample time or vacant time in doing so.About those telegram bots then i havent tested out on certain notification on specific boards or threads but its not really a bad idea to have on at least making yourself
aware on whatever things been posted or published out so that you wont really be missing out if ever there are new campaigns. Just remember on not to make out some step that would just make those managers
do end up on having bad impressions on you.You wont really be making yourself to have good odds on getting accepted if you do show up some desperation.
2214  Economy / Economics / Re: You win or you learn. on: June 25, 2022, 08:41:53 PM
Both will always be side by side, we don't always have to win. In every new hype, new challenges will emerge that are more psychologically affecting to enter into it. As you point here,
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2. Opportunity will come again and again so do not FOMO.

people just want to get the chance but in the process they don't get it easily. Sometimes to get every opportunity you have to learn from losses first.
There are some people who are just too close minded on which they are really tending to make out some perfect copy if they do saw someone who do earn big in terms of trading or investment.They do tend to copy
it without even considering about the possible outcomes which might able for you to experience and losses is always next in line and we know that there's no such thing about perfect trader/investor
which does simply means that losses is there and some cant really just accept it and not able to enhance or improve theirselves because they do really go back into the past and cant accept their
mistakes or losses which is something not a recommendable mindset to have.Learn with your mistakes and continue to improve.
2215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does bitcoin dump have any impact on gamblers ? on: June 25, 2022, 07:38:53 PM
If you have access to the internal statistics of the casino, then it is easy to prove the presence (or absence) of a connection. The behavior of one player does not mean anything, but if we have statistics about thousands, then this is the exact pattern of behavior. It is enough to look at their behavior on the market dump, on the pump and on the flat - then it will be clear how the market situation affects their behavior.

That kind of stats, the gambling site itself will know about the pattern.
But us, being the players, I don't think we can have clear understanding what's going on.
We can just speculate during this period, but we know that if you are a gambler, you will play no matter what the situation is.
But you may increase or decrease your spending depending on the availability of your funds.
Or if you have other things that you need to take care of. But mostly, gamblers will play in any kind of market.

Indirectly, we can draw conclusions on other indicators. For example, I remember that in 2018, during the bear market and then for a considerable time after it, the activity of signature campaigns on the forum from game projects was much less than now or during the bull market phase. It turns out that at least a hard depression in the crypto market affects the casino and hence the gamblers.
I dont really see any significant effects on gambling industry on just talking on this crypto space or market if we do base up on how many platforms are launching or emerging despite of the market condition.
If companies do came out on times like this then it do really shows or means that they are still making significant revenue which means that gamblers do really still play even on a bear market season.
Why? People doesnt really care on how much they do spend on point and only to those people who are investor like mind will really be having some hesitance on playing but for those who do seek for leisure
or simply  making profits or wins then they would still continue to play as long they do have the money to spent out then that what surely counts.
2216  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Phil Mickelson Opens Up About Losing MILLIONS From Gambling on: June 25, 2022, 06:45:54 PM
When you are the ones playing your sports, you'll trust on your skills which is why he bet so much too. I guess this is also what happened to the NBA stars who fell in same loss. It must be hard to cure such gambling addiction since he make a living out of golf sport, he is expose to this sport all his life. The only way I guess is to retire and if he still gambles after that, its really getting worse.
I also believe that if you have that much money, and you have nothing to spend your money with, that is the time when you think of gambling. Some NBA players have been addicted to gambling. There are some professional athletes that are getting addicted to gambling because they don't know where to spend much money with. Recovering with gambling addiction might be hard for others, but I think he can recover from it knowing that his career might be affected aside from his personal life if he will just continue to gamble.
If they want to think about what they will do with their money, they can choose to invest in property or set up a business that they manage by hiring experts to get more profit. After getting more profits, they can donate it to people who can't afford it. I guess that would be better than using the money for gambling. But indeed, they are also humans who sometimes have the desire to spend their money at the gambling table. But in the end, many of them get addicted and some may lose all their money because of gambling.
But what if you do already have investments that you do have on your list or had already have made out? and you are already making out some profits or money on passive state?
For sire you would really be finding out on how you would gonna spend up your money and some people do really ending up on going into gambling or making it as their option
on spending up their time and funds.Its not really bad to have that consideration on playing gambling for leisure but when the time comes that you are already spending up too much time
and finances then this is where things turns out to be sour which would really be resulting into disaster if you dont really able to control up yourself on how you would gonna spend
up your funds or totally have good control on that particular area.
2217  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are you using trading indicators? on: June 24, 2022, 11:52:00 PM
In general, I heard that these indicators really help many. I can’t say yet that this option is convenient for me to work with. Although, sometimes I still use this option.
There's no other ways or things that you could really make use of which is really that relevant on dealing into this market.You cant really just sit and do nothing
and you would indeed needing these indicators for you to have at least the knowledge or idea on how you would really be placing yourself into the market
whether you would really be buying or selling because having no these indicators would really be putting you in hesitation because you dont really know on what
to do at least.It might not be that precise but its not really that bad at all on having these things at least.
Well, I don't know whether to take it as an indicator or not, but I think that the volume may be the indicator that gives us the most information. I have a friend who likes to go into small excahnges because he says that he sees or is able to determine when a whale begins to make his movenmtno bullish in an altcoin, so at that moment he enters buying and what he does is wait, and most of the time he wins, he says that the whales as they are with so much money, do not enter at once with everything, but they they come in with some money in a big way and this is reflected in the volume, and when he sees those unusual moves the volume comes in.

There are things which are other traders do able to see and others which cannot where i could really attest to that and same as your own experience and able to observe on which there are people whom do only base or just by looking with the volume which is usually in low caps or even on those coins which prices are already on the floor for long time and with some additional indicators or tools been used which would justify their analysis then this is the time that they would make out some significant move.On asking out if its really helpful to make use of trading indicators then its definitely yes, because you cant just rely on news and
fundamentals alone which cant really be there from time to time therefore you would really be going into other aspects which would really be that relevant for you to make use.
2218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any changes experienced within body - Gambling??? on: June 24, 2022, 10:51:41 PM
Probably the kind of experience I went through while preparing for difficult exams, or writing exams I'm not well prepared for.  The risk of losing is too much. It's a gamble.

It's important to reduce risk as much as possible or only engage in risk-free bet.

With gambling you are attracting what the world would call "negative energy" (it's actually evil spirit) that encourages reckless behavior
Here we go again , an account that against gambling but continuously posting in gambling section , why not stay away from this section so you have no need to deal with gamblers?  Grin

It is every peoples prerogative what they need to spend their money and time , what is important here is that they are controllable and not addicted because the more we gamble is the more we may lose funds and our living as well, learn how to be contented and learn to manage our habits and not to engage in everything that will lose our control and emotion .
There are certain types of people who could easily manage their emotions and intents on dealing up with things not only limited to gambling but also in other aspects in life as well on which you do need to have that
control and mindset whether if it would really be good for you or would really be just good for past time. Changes experienced in the body is something not correlate from time to time on any thing that you are dealing
unless if you are really that stressed which causes for your body to have that kind of problem and also there are instances which illness cant really be known but its already existed for a long time
and you have just recently discovered it when the symptoms are already that obvious.
2219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What Type of Gambler Am I? on: June 24, 2022, 09:50:56 PM
Casual gambler i would say on where i do only play on the time when im vacant from my work or from other activities or priorities which i do only play on the time i do find or i do feel like to play without hoping that much
about winning the game but rather getting the leisure i do seek from in the first place.  We do have different impressions and views  towards gambling, some do comes after solidly for the profits whether they would get involved with strategic type or luck based kind of games.It would really be varying on someones preference since we are different in some aspect then it couldnt really be just the same.
There are even pretenders who had been saying that they arent addicted but they are truly that opposite into that condition.
2220  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the golden rule of investment? on: June 24, 2022, 08:18:18 PM
You have to be inteligent and not invest a big sum. You have to analyze and choose the best thing you can invest in.
Many people are risk averse - they like taking big risks. For them big risk means big profit.
I also don't like taking big risks. I play safe - small steps everyday is my rule of game.
We do have different taking or plans or goals in mind on which we do really need to choose whether we do love to take some big profits or small ones or get contented on a small scale.
And on this time we do really create whether we do need to take big risk or would simply play on the safer side.Its a personal choice to make and the most important thing to consider
is on to invest on the amount which you can afford to lose and dont go all in or go overboard with  your finances since we know that crypto market isnt something that gives out guarantee
but since we do speak about investment then it do always ties up with risk.You wont really gain something if you wont really make out such step, so its up to someone.
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