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2261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 11:05:59 PM
Letter to IconicExpert. From me PERSONALLY

As we all know I have been with this community basically from day one, I have personally seen it grow and I have personally become the main spokes person for BlackCoin. I am viewed as the Community Manager for one reason: Trust & Transparancy. You came to me with your press release idea, and I said: put up or shut up, you delivered. I donated.

You came up with the BlackCoin Cards. I loved it and I helped promote it heavily on all the social media accounts and places I could. It was a big success. Over 300 sold in the first batch.

You came up with the WallStreet idea. I liked it, and I asked the people that are able to fund projects like these for their opinion. Before I could get the final answer you decided to hop off IRC and a day later you just posted it on the BTC Talk thread. It went great. I donated.

From that moment on you have never contacted us again. I was pissed when you publicly attacked Gritt for a comment that was true but misread by many. He apologised to me for it, we put out the actual statement that still counts: We support the idea, we do not sponsor it and it's not from the official BlackCoin team.

You know full well where to contact me, IRC, PM on BTCTalk and I think you even have my personal e-mail. Instead of asking me what that comment was about, you wanted to go on to publicly discredit all the work we have been doing for months.

Next you go and claim that idea's, that were from other users, were yours and successful because of you. I find it curious that you claim that VoS was your effort, and when I simply reply with definite proof it wasn't you, you can't even bring it up to make an apology.

You are the problem here in my opinion. You yourself have created this view of your persona right now. This is not 'the people from IRC' or 'the devs' bashing you. This is the community that is bashing you down. And apparently, reading your responses, you know full well that your planned 'take over' is not working. This community is so much more then this BTC Talk thread. This community is thousands of people big and they come from all sorts of channels. Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and yes, a lot too from BTC Talk.

I personally am managing 40-50 people that work DAILY on making BlackCoin better. One of the reasons why we have decided to get a REAL PR firm for promoting the coin is because it has NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE. We will be doing something unique, and the only person bashing MY EFFORTS down is you.

We showed our faces on the BlackCast. We got over 250 concurrent viewers during the stream, and a YouTube video that has been watched over 1250 times. I've gotten countless messages that people love the cast and that they trust BlackCoin so much more.

Besides, you haven't talked about the answers we gave to your questions on the BlackCast. You seem to avoid anything that we do, i have publicly stated I like your work but i'm regretting these words with every other post you make.

The same with now (again, while I write this post up) the threats against the whole team that has worked so hard to make BlackCoin possible. It is so counter productive. Just go do your cards, go do your WallStreet event. This is not, and has never been some sort of competition/contest. You seem to want to make it one. For what reason I don't know.

Oh, and by the way, while I have been working 16 hours a day, for the last 60 days, i have donated to projects that others had. You seem to be such a rich and successful guy. Congrats. Why don't you come out and put up 2500$ for your WallStreet idea. We have an idea and come with 15000$ in hand.

We don't know if the PR firm will be an success. We don't know if Wall Street will be an success. We haven't bashed your plans, you seem to want to bash us at every chance you get.

Respect is not gained here by yelling. Respect is not gained here by the person with the biggest ego. Respect is earned by the person that delivers.






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About the foundation: We will address all this in the upcoming week. We are still forming everything and I also want to point to this article we have released on the 28th of March - http://www.blackcoin.co/update-2/formation-of-the-blackcoin-foundation/

Good post Soepkip

Smiley
2262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 07:23:00 PM

I do like that Smiley
2263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 06:29:23 PM
IE if you can't make your point in 2 sentences people are not going to read your shit, like me.

TLDR

Is this better for you...take your coins and your people and go. Because the effect of you leaving will not come close to the effect of me dumping all MY coins, and believe me I have a hell of a lot of coins.

That should be a small enough soundbite for you....

OK, seriously why did I even leave this thread open...

This, and numerous other sentiments which come flaring into existence as soon as anyone does anything other than bow before your throne is exactly why I can't stay here.  I have no idea how many coins you have, but at a guess it's about the same as myself (a few hundred thousand) although I'm sure the cards have netted you quite a nice windfall on top of that.  I think you've made contributions that have been wonderful, and I've defended your efforts on numerous occasions, and donated to the cause.

However...

1) You can't expect to be free from criticism when you attack any idea or direction that was not your own.
2) You can't expect to champion the decentralized nature of BlackCoin on one hand and then demand control of every aspect of PR and strategic direction yourself.
3) You can't expect people to overlook the irony of calling for donations with a huge string of reposts, and then make a statement about all of your "millions of BC" - if anything that simply tells me and probably others that you don't need any of ours in order for you to continue doing just fine.
4) Most of all, you can't simply throw a tantrum every time you're not the only one being supported.  When the initial pump was on - that was "because of your press release... and the multipool didn't have anything to do with it".  Now that there's a jump that coincides with the release of the statement from Soepkip and the webcast from Wizfarm.... you attack both of their posts within minutes of them posting them.

In the recent past you've threatened more than once to leave BlackCoin because "very wealthy investors" were trying to get you to make your own coin/brand and you could do far better doing that.  I would personally recommend that option - because after all, you're madly successful even without ~$100K in cryptos (apparently), in addition to the fact that there are big movers in big business with millions trying to throw them at you to do something for another coin.

I guess the only thing that doesn't make sense is why you would need to stay here and do this - it seems like second best at the most in your situation... and you've already said you could just walk away and not even care.  Wink

So carry on - but you can do so with your own huge piles of coins - as my little wallet won't be coming along for that ride.


Worth reading again ...

Thank you
2264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 05:54:29 PM
and after reading that ... go to these

If you seriously want to help BlackCoin consider abandoning this thread.

#BlackCoin holders, sign up here...

1) http://blackcointalk.com
2) http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/

Come join the supporters!

2265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 05:53:08 PM
...snipped

This thread is disorganised, scrappy and inefficiently sequential.

Personally I think anyone NOT behind the Dev team, Legion or the community managers should just hold a different coin - or setup their own. I think the Dev team/upcoming foundation have done a FANTASTIC JOB on BlackCoin. And continue to do so.

I've been with BlackCoin from the start and I don't want ANY changes to the Dev team or official community management team.


worth reading again
2266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 10:01:22 AM
BlackCoin is not this SINGLE thread on bitcointalk!

You need to get over to:

BlackCoin Forums
http://blackcointalk.com

BlackCoin Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin

This needs repeating ...

and I'll keep repeating as long as all this rubbish persists....

2267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 09:08:57 AM
BlackCoin is heading to BIG places, a single thread on a forum is not enough. Luckily we have other active BlackCoin sites that are far more organised and easier to keep abreast of!

BlackCoin Forums
http://blackcointalk.com

BlackCoin Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin

Totally agree with this post.

As a business Blackcoin cannot possibly be limited to one thread such as it is here. IF you're serious about the development of Blackcoin as a Business and as a currency of the future then please come over to Blackcoin Forums and or Reddit.

Both have far more granularity over the content where discussions about all sorts of Blackcoin development, design, PR and more are being talked about and worked on right now and everyday.

Take out this narrow minded one thread view of Blackcoin, its really not healthy. As a product, a service and as an entity, Blackcoin is so much more, expand your mind, expand your view, join us on the Blackcoin Forum and Reddit.
2268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 08:39:03 AM
This community is so sad Sad just left.

BlackCoin is not this SINGLE thread on bitcointalk!

You need to get over to:

BlackCoin Forums
http://blackcointalk.com

BlackCoin Reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin



+1
QFT
2269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 07:44:26 AM


Weeks ago I suggested in IRC that we make crop circles all over the world to promote Blackcoin. We tossed around how we could make it work, how much media coverage it could get, if we could even get farmers to let us destroy their crops in the name of Blackcoin... well, community. The time has come. We have to try this. I can no longer ignore the rising support for #BlackCoinCropCircles.


ANNOUNCING:
The BlackCoin
Crop Circle Project



Though mysterious and other-worldly, crop circles can be created very easily. A simple crop circle such as the BlackCoin logo could be created by 2-3 people in a matter of hours. Don't believe me? Watch this YouTube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eh9q8gadas

The only tools required are a large rope, wooden planks, and a surveyor's tape. These items can be secured at Home Depot or likely any hardware store for ~$30 or less.



These are the steps we need to take to make this happen:

1) Find locations. My idea is to choose farms near helicopter coverage - IE: where news helicopters already fly every day for weather/traffic.
2) Contact farmers and ask them if we can create the greatest image ever to grace their land. We may be able to raise a small BlackCoin bounty for their trouble.
3) Contact media publications and see if we can get them to run a story about this.
4) Get teams together to actually make the crop circles. Teams of 2 would work, 3 or more is preferable.
5) Choose a Black night, and make as many simultaneous crop circles all over the world as possible!
 
I WANT AT LEAST ONE ON EVERY CONTINENT.






These are the things we need:

1) Supplies for every crop circle team. $30 x number of crop circles.
2) If we have extra funding, we can sweeten the deal for the farmers and add a bounty to use their land. It may make it easier to find willing farmers.



5 Crop Circles, one for every major continent. $150 goal
10 Crop Circles. Madness. $300 goal
20 Crop Circles. Can it be done? $600 goal

We might be able to do this practically free, if people already have the tools.
If we raise too much we will offer a bounty to convince farmers to let us use their land.



The BlackCoin community will always take crypto a step further. Let's do this.

BLK: BRwm8C58NHohzxDqBZ4wcHbBX5YEF1SZpC
BTC: 1HdRrMvjXbr5XuWXCMfjoi874ruCBFeB2N



The BlackCoin Crop Circle Project will be organized on IRC, #blackcoinpool. Join in! We need organizers and crop circle teams!

Well its certainly novel!! Ill give ya that Smiley How to get the aerial view tho once done?
2270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 07:43:20 AM

sorry just had to post it again, so funny  Smiley
Wiz youre a star my friend!

Yes yes =D

LAMBO WHAAAA (/._.)/



We'll have to see if we can get him to do it again on the next broadcast Smiley
2271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 07:42:46 AM
Hello BlackCoin Community
 
As the BlackCoin Foundation we have worked hard in the past weeks and I am proud to present to the community at large one of our most ambitious fundraising ventures to date. As most of you know, BlackCoin is a phenomenal alternative cryptocurrency with substantial REAL advantages over its competitors. We are a greener, faster, coin that is ready for retail adoption and worldwide use… Only the world doesn't know this... That is hopefully about to change…
 
BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!
 
For several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.
 
BlackCoin is Bitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a 90 day PR campaign (with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community! To finish paying for this venture we need the community to help raise an additional $15,000 USD.
 
The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:
 
1.) Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.
2.) Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!
 
Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).
 
The Plan
 
The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is… With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.
 
Thanks and please donate today!
BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q    
BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV    
LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR  
Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1    
Make sure to check the addresses in the original post!
 
Be the change you want to see in the world.


OMG! So I wake up to this!!!!!! BlackCoin ROCKKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yeah its pretty cool Smiley
2272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 07:42:16 AM
so has the Titan lottery began ?? I've not seen much hype about it and wonder if it got put on hold ?

Starts on the 5th May Smiley
2273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 07:09:30 AM
we should be nominating the blackcast's podcast for most informative podcast at the first annual blockchain awards!!! There were serious issues tackled with direct response to ddos attacks and China's constant attempts to make btc price bleed.

https://blog.blockchain.com/2014/04/16/the-first-annual-blockchain-awards/



You know what.... youre right, vote added as it certainly cant hurt and all PR is good Smiley
2274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 07:03:50 AM
http://i.minus.com/i0nJR0YGbSJ62.gif
sorry just had to post it again, so funny  Smiley
Wiz youre a star my friend!
2275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 03, 2014, 06:59:53 AM
Hello BlackCoin Community
 
As the BlackCoin Foundation we have worked hard in the past weeks and I am proud to present to the community at large one of our most ambitious fundraising ventures to date. As most of you know, BlackCoin is a phenomenal alternative cryptocurrency with substantial REAL advantages over its competitors. We are a greener, faster, coin that is ready for retail adoption and worldwide use… Only the world doesn't know this... That is hopefully about to change…
 
BlackCoin will be the first CryptoCurrency to hire a legitimate, brick and mortar, Public Relations Firm!
 
For several weeks the BlackCoin Foundation has been engaging PR firms in order to find one with the right technical expertise to help promote BlackCoin through various target media (think wired.com, theverge, wsj, financial times, and social media as well). After much deliberation we have decided on a company and are in the process of finalizing things contractually speaking. We are not going to release the PR firm's name until things are finalized, but they have a great deal of experience and are truly excited to be working with us. You will not be disappointed.
 
BlackCoin is Bitcoin 2.0. But spreading this message comes at significant cost. In order to secure a 90 day PR campaign (with options to retain services month to month after the initial 90 day period) the foundation has already raised over $15,000 USD! This has got the ball rolling, but we need help from the community! To finish paying for this venture we need the community to help raise an additional $15,000 USD.
 
The funds raised by the Foundation have allowed us to get things started, and over the next few days and weeks we will providing more and more information about the strategy, including key messages and timelines. Our strategy meetings will be 100% transparent and we will be updating the community about our every move. In the meantime, we need two things:
 
1.) Come up with suggestions! We have a powerful PR firm to bounce ideas off of and now is the time to brainstorm. What do you think is an important message? What is an important venue? Give us anything and everything you got, but please do your best to list your ideas in a concise and coherent manner.
2.) Please donate to the addresses below! This is a monumental and revolutionary undertaking that could very well shape the cryptocurrency landscape for years to come. Every little bit helps!
 
Linked below is a very high-level and preliminary overview that the PR firm provided to us in our most recent conference call. Some information has been redacted and the formatting has been altered (worsened) due to proprietary images (e.g. anything that could identify the PR Firm).
 
The Plan
 
The cryptocurrency world is having trouble competing with BlackCoin as is… With a capable and professional PR firm on our side, the sky is the limit.
 
Thanks and please donate today!
BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q   
BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV   
LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR   
Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1   
Make sure to check the addresses in the original post!
 
Be the change you want to see in the world.



WE NOW HAVE: 1082$ Donated!


Nice one Soepkip!

+100

It'll be good to get some professionals on the case. The current state is not the classiness we've been aspiring to, so to get this rolling will make a real difference. I've sent over some coin too Smiley

Let me know whats needed for the UK and I'll forward what we've been doing here.

And I have to say that interview with WizFarm was truly epic! Good to see some faces to attach to names. It's easy to shout and howl at the moon as an anonymous poster, but to have real poeple represent makes a HUGE difference. It inspires confidence and gives us someone to look to as leadership and direction.

Soepkip, youre a funny dude Smiley BlackDoge, you're cool guy and GNU... ah will we ever see this mysterous dude?! And Gritt, good work from Asia man! Smiley and epic work on the newspaper that was very impressive.

I'm looking forward to meeting you guys at Bitcoin2014 where we will be promoting Blackcoin real hard to the very people that helped create the Bitcoin ecosystem... taking BLK to the BTC glitterati no less, where the real power in crypto lies......

We will also be meeting up with Coinkites Rodolfo to talk about European wide Terminal adoption. Seems that people just love to have paper receipts for their accountants, who'd have thought paper would be so useful in this day and age eh?! Such a cool device!

So add this PR push to what we're doing and I suspect our coins are going to be worth a lot more in the near and not too distant future.

We have the second largest tech centre on the planet (outside of Silicon Valley), Cambridge, in the throes of Crypto adoption and we're right there leading the charge.

And I havent even started on the plans for the Square Mile, the Worlds largest and most affluent stock exchange.... the stuff that is happening AROUND THE WORLD .. and yes, thats a very important point to make here.... this is a GLOBAL effort, is breathtaking in its scope and reach.

Meet Black @ Amsterdam Bitcoin2014

We work to make YOUR coins more valuable!
2276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 01, 2014, 10:35:03 PM
http://blackcointalk.com/index.php
2277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 01, 2014, 05:48:11 PM
...snip....

Please refrain from the attacks/criticism and get back to what matters most, helping BC and it's community thrive.  We can be subjective and still be respectful.
  
Just a general statement and sentiment that I'm sure others share with me.  


+1 QFT
2278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 01, 2014, 05:03:09 PM
Theres an ignore function for a reason.

Playing this game is divisive and destructive, rise above it and use ignore.

Be the professional
2279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 01, 2014, 02:46:36 PM
IE, it looks like you've outdone yourself!
First glance it looks very attrractive and Im looking forward to recieving my card Smiley
2280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 01, 2014, 02:21:20 PM
I thought I saw a tweet/post earlier today saying crypsy is the issue again?
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