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2321  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 10, 2015, 01:42:37 PM
Do not deposit to webetcoins , only deposit works nothing else
They do not answer mails and do not grade bets.

My first bet with the initial bonus was placed 2 months (60 days ) ago but still not graded.
I wrote them 3 emails in the last 4 days but  no answer.  (On there site : 24/7 CUSTOMER SERVICE)

The bet ids show that only (5388 - 5295) = 93 bets was placed between  01/09/15 04:51 - 03/06/15 08:42    about 1.5 bet / day



1. BET ID=5388 (Partizan Vizura Beograd (Women) VS Spartak Subortica (Women))

Result: YET TO BE DECLARED


Spartak Subortica (Women)

 03/06/15 08:42

Date&Time:  03/06/15 08:42
 03/06/15 01:00 Spartak Subortica (Women) (-125)
Game



2. BET ID=5295 (David Goffin VS Andreas Haider-Maurer)

Result: YET TO BE DECLARED


David Goffin
 Bet 0.005 Win 0.0011
 01/09/15 04:51

Date&Time:  01/09/15 04:51
 01/09/15 07:45 David Goffin (-460)
Game

In the transaction history you can see other IDs :  

18598 06 Mar 2015 01:43 Bet Placed Partizan Vizura Beograd (Women) VS Spartak Subortica (Women)  
18597 06 Mar 2015 01:30 Deposit
18289 09 Jan 2015 09:52 Bet Placed David Goffin VS Andreas Haider-Maurer  -0.005
18288 09 Jan 2015 09:45 Deposit  +0.005


This is (IDs:  18598 - 18288 = )  310 ID.
1st ID is registering and bounus ,2nd ID is deposit , 3rd ID is placing bet    
This is 310 actions from about 103 (310/3)  users ?  or less

If i do not get answer in this week i think we could consider webetcoins is a scam.


I think F category is too wide.  
Bitcoinlivebets is disappeared (no website), webetcoins has website and deposits working, but nothing else.  So they should be in different category.

I know what means F, but on the other thread webetcoins is 2.8 (from 5) (cloudbet is 2.9 and i do not have any issue with them, fast payout, ... )
As i remember webetcoins rating in this thread was better when i registered them 2 months ago.




The other thread had bitcoinlivebets as the highest book at one time. I think they were ranked #2 when the went under.

Webetcoin's highest grade was "D+" and I was a regular at the time. I think that posting, "accepting deposits but not paying out players" may be a nice addition next to the rating.

2322  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 10, 2015, 01:48:47 AM
"A" rated books
Anonibet A (2011)
NitrogenSports A (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)
Jetwin B (2013)
Cloudbet B- (2013)

"C" rated books
BetVIP C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
BetOWI C- (2014)
Fairlay C- (2013)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)

"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014)
Roadbet D+ (2012)
Betbtc D (2014)

"F" rated books
Asianconnect F
BetCas F
BTCBook F (2014)
BTCBonusBook (2015)
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014)
Bitbm F
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
1player
7Bit
altbetfair
Betabit
Betbanks
BetXCP
Bitcoinvegas
Bitesports
Casinoco
Coin178
Cointeller
Darkbet
Evolvebets
finalstake
Flutterclub
Oddschange (2015)
Planetofbets
Pocketrocketscasino.eu/sports


tdsports
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
2323  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 10, 2015, 01:47:24 AM
BTCBonusBook "F"
2324  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 09, 2015, 07:31:51 PM
BTCBonusBook - It's no surprise that they open before the NCAA tourney.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=982737.msg10715377#msg10715377

They popup under a new name every few months Wink Lots of action during march madness so don't be surprised if you see these scambooks popup a bunch of times this month.
nice catch. Thanks
2325  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 09, 2015, 07:23:47 PM
He wants to keep the URL private. It's a PPH shop and the URL is http://just4bettors.com/

DO NOT PLAY HERE at this time.

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I'd like to keep the website off the public forums.

Anyone interested can email me at btcbonusbook@gmail.com OR PM me here.

Its just a temporary site to use until we get the real website up and running by hopefully the first round of the NCAAs.

I will be away from the computer until tomorrow (3/9).

Any questions, post here or email me and i will 100% get back to every single one tomorrow.

This special bonus expires Friday night, as i can't expose myself too much for too long of a time.  BUT...I will be offering a different bonus come next weekend.
2326  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 09, 2015, 07:21:29 PM
BTCBonusBook - It's no surprise that they open before the NCAA tourney.

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Hello BitcoinTalk!

I am new to the forums, but not at all new to the industry.

We have been around for years as a small time sportsbook, but have decided to expand and give a special deal on Bitcoin deposits.

Our site offers all major lines, especially college basketball this month, along with access to horses and casino at your own request.

The reason we have decided to open it up more as a Bitcoin book is due to the anonymity that comes with it.

We are currently working on our own platform, but in the meantime, we are using a PPH site.

Deposits and Payouts will be made in Bitcoins, with exceptions if requested.   The balance is shown as USD until we make the move to our own platform.

We offer -105 on all sides.


We have test accounts for anyone interested.

As for the availablity of cashouts, we have close to 100 bitcoin in hand right now, and that is growing by the minute.



I am here to answer and all questions.

If you'd like to email me directly, my email is btcbonusbook@gmail.com.  We only have about 4-5 employees on customer service at the moment, but this will expand over time.

Hope some of you are interested in this amazing Bonus which is valid for the next 7 days.  The details:

- 100% cash bonus on whatever you deposit (Deposit 400, you will have 800 in your account.)
- 100% freeplay bonus (Deposit 400, get $400 FP in addition to the 800 cash from the 100% cash bonus).
- The rollover if you take the bonus is 10x, which is very reasonable.
- We also offer 10% cashback on losses.  This comes along with a 5x rollover.

Any questions?  I am here to answer.  Will be back on here tomorrow.

Have a nice day!

2327  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 09, 2015, 03:11:02 AM
2328  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 08, 2015, 10:00:23 AM
I don't know them all, but 2FA row is the most obvious.
Thanks

2329  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 08, 2015, 09:30:55 AM
Missing a few obvious updates to the check boxes.
help me out, which ones?
2330  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 08, 2015, 07:31:41 AM
Update

2331  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 05, 2015, 08:34:04 PM
Looks like a lot of books get hit. Betcoin
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We just wanted to provide an update to the DDoS attack that happened on Wednesday.  We receive DDoS attacks almost twice weekly as many online companies do but they hardly have an effect on our service and this one was quickly taken care of as well, however our security is extremely high and it began to filter IP's of many of our quality players to a 520 error that if they clicked retry would take them to the website.  We have fine tuned this filter and everything should be working perfectly.  Please let us know anytime if you have an issue.
2332  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 05, 2015, 07:39:02 AM
BTCBook
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FYI to our users we were the victim of a large DDOS attack this evening, and are in the process of moving to a new server to help mitigate the attack. Some past bets or transactions may be temporarily missing from your account page as we recover from our backups.
2333  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 04, 2015, 11:56:35 PM
Nitrogen has some nice contests and poker free rolls going on. In one contest you are still in it if you lose a game.

https://nitrogensports.eu/blog/march-promotions-at-nitrogen/
2334  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 04, 2015, 07:33:24 PM
Sportsbettingonline.ag has stolen $8,200 from me last spring. After unsuccessfully trying to deal with them I contacted SBR. You can see my case here:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbettingonline/

SportsbettingOnline player has $8,200 in limbo

09.17.2014A SportsbettingOnline (SBR rating C-) player has had $8,200 in limbo for going on three months. The player opened their account with a $500 deposit in the summer of 2014 and increased the total balance to approximately $8,700. A successful $500 payout was made via bitcoins, which was the maximum at the time per house rules. The following payout request was allegedly instantly declined by SportsbettingOnline. The player claims to have been given no information on what to do to receive the account balance, and has been locked out from making additional wagers. SBR has attempted to speak with SportsbettingOnline three times concerning the player's dispute. The latest correspondence - dated August 24 - was initiated via live help where a manager claimed to be investigating the player's complaint. No update was provided, and the player remains in the dark on why the remaining balance is in limbo.


The sporstbook seems to have refused to talk to SBR. After that, SBR downgraded their rating from C- to D+:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/sportsbettingonline-downgraded-d-50194/

My correspondence with SBR over email was through Matt. I last heard from him back in November, saying they're doing their best but can't seem to get nowhere with the sportsbook.

Then, about a month ago, the sportsbook was upgraded back to it's previous rating of C-:

Sportsbook Rating Change: SportsbettingOnline to C-

02.03.2015SportsbettingOnline management satisfactorily addressed the few outstanding issues reported on the SBR newswire and opened a line of communication with SBR for further player complaints. The rating has been adjusted from D+ to C-.


My issue was never resolved. I tried contacting Matt to see what this was about, but almost a month later I received no response from him. I tried emailing SBR's mailbox directly, no answer. I tried posting on SBR forum, but my account was instantly deemed as a spammer so I couldn't get through that way either.

Anyone has any ideas how I should proceed? This book is supposedly regulated, they were in the bussines prior to bitcoin. They won't talk to me, they initially do but then quickly after that support closes my ticket. Does anyone have an alternative way to contact them?

Meanwhile, here, their sister book BetOWI is still rated as C-.
Update: I made another account at SBR and tried posting again, but this time without any links and it was successful.
Shoot me your account # and permission to look into the count. I highly doubt that I can do anything since I don't have a relationship with them and they are a cash book but will at least make an attempt.
2335  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 04, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
Sportsbettingonline.ag has stolen $8,200 from me last spring. After unsuccessfully trying to deal with them I contacted SBR. You can see my case here:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbettingonline/

SportsbettingOnline player has $8,200 in limbo

09.17.2014A SportsbettingOnline (SBR rating C-) player has had $8,200 in limbo for going on three months. The player opened their account with a $500 deposit in the summer of 2014 and increased the total balance to approximately $8,700. A successful $500 payout was made via bitcoins, which was the maximum at the time per house rules. The following payout request was allegedly instantly declined by SportsbettingOnline. The player claims to have been given no information on what to do to receive the account balance, and has been locked out from making additional wagers. SBR has attempted to speak with SportsbettingOnline three times concerning the player's dispute. The latest correspondence - dated August 24 - was initiated via live help where a manager claimed to be investigating the player's complaint. No update was provided, and the player remains in the dark on why the remaining balance is in limbo.


The sporstbook seems to have refused to talk to SBR. After that, SBR downgraded their rating from C- to D+:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/sportsbettingonline-downgraded-d-50194/

My correspondence with SBR over email was through Matt. I last heard from him back in November, saying they're doing their best but can't seem to get nowhere with the sportsbook.

Then, about a month ago, the sportsbook was upgraded back to it's previous rating of C-:

Sportsbook Rating Change: SportsbettingOnline to C-

02.03.2015SportsbettingOnline management satisfactorily addressed the few outstanding issues reported on the SBR newswire and opened a line of communication with SBR for further player complaints. The rating has been adjusted from D+ to C-.


My issue was never resolved. I tried contacting Matt to see what this was about, but almost a month later I received no response from him. I tried emailing SBR's mailbox directly, no answer. I tried posting on SBR forum, but my account was instantly deemed as a spammer so I couldn't get through that way either.

Anyone has any ideas how I should proceed? This book is supposedly regulated, they were in the bussines prior to bitcoin. They won't talk to me, they initially do but then quickly after that support closes my ticket. Does anyone have an alternative way to contact them?

Meanwhile, here, their sister book BetOWI is still rated as C-.
Update: I made another account at SBR and tried posting again, but this time without any links and it was successful.
[/quote]Update 2: 10 minutes after, I was banned and my post was deleted.
that's funny.
2336  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: March 04, 2015, 12:22:43 AM
There are a couple of complaints against BTCBook

SoccerKings
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Hi, Btcbook could you please accelerate my withdrawal request of 1.3BTC to the address 19AZJsYUXJGsTSAHUtC8CzuS6SLdcmgDNu I requested it over 24 hours ago and its still pending; It would be nice if you could make withdrawals faster.. Instead of it taking over a day plus a couple emails and a forum post in order to get a withdrawal. It takes away all the sexiness that your offered lines have and disregards the benefit that BTC brings to the online gambling world.

spiz0r
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I am also waiting for a cashout for 5 days. There is something wrong.

spiz0r still waiting
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I still haven't received the cashout. You sent me a reply mail that you will handle it yesterday.
I requested the cashout more than a week and its only 0.62 BTC.
2337  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Do not deposit to betvip ... on: March 03, 2015, 09:03:09 AM
This is located on the left at BetVip. It isn't hidden in any way. My quote doesn't do justice to the way it actually looks. A player can click on both "Withdrawal Wallets" and "Withdraw Funds".

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Deposit
My Betting History
My Account History
Withdrawal Wallets
Withdraw Funds


2338  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Do not deposit to betvip ... on: March 03, 2015, 08:43:19 AM
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...........

betvip is insolvent  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972053.0

you Peeps Place  should deposit and withdraw weekly at least one times to all your rated (above D) bitcoin sportbook  to check them

They have  NO WITHDRAWAL option on their page , did you know that ?

your work and topic  is good for nothing

The OP came into the rating's guide thread and posted the quote above.

1. OP stated that BetVip doesn't have a withdrawal page. BetVip has a withdrawal section on their first page for all players that has always been in place.

2. The OP posted in multiple threads that BetVip is insolvent. This is very irresponsible whether it is one hour or six hours and can be damaging to a business.
2339  Economy / Gambling / Re: Any Sportsbooks that Offer MLB Spring Training Betting? on: March 02, 2015, 09:37:54 PM
Nitrogen has lines up for tomorrow's games.
2340  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Do not deposit to betvip ... on: March 02, 2015, 07:05:51 AM
It was just a misunderstanding as clarified by betvip due to a glitch caused by either what ndnhc explained above or for any other reason. But I don't think OP's reason to post this topic was just to slander. If I deposited 1 Btc in any casino and it didn't show up in my account, I'd be very worried as well and would think I was scammed. That's what I think happened in this case, OP tried to contact the casino, the problem wasn't resolved and then he chose to report it here. So I don't think Casino or OP should be blamed here.

OP should mark this as solved and close this topic now.

The problem I had with the OP is that he stated he would only wait one hour and then go to posting boards and state that BetVIP was insolvent. He posted in multiple threads that BetVIP was insolvent. He waited less than one hour. I feel that is irresponsible.

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if i do not get it within  1 hour  i will write into your bitcointalkorg topic and other forums that you  are inslovent
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