I am not sure why directbet is D tough, is there some sort of complaints and scam accusations towards them or do you think they are bad in general? They are one of the oldest and most wagered sportsbooks I have heard of and I would be interested to know why are D and not C or B let alone A.
Now that books are processing payouts so fast, DirectBet lost their advantage of not needing an account. Their odds are bad, may be the worst, and they've confiscated money from approximately 6 players. Not only are winnings confiscated, but the bet amount too in a couple of cases. Bet confirmations can get delayed because of the system that they use. A bet may not get confirmed/rejected until the game goes final. |
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powerbet.io https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1710755.0lol, powerbet.io deleted most of my posts 2 weeks ago and today they deleted the last 2 ones They could delete these 2 posts 2 weeks ago but they did it only today Perhaps they are in big trouble A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. As i see you are an 1xbet/1xbit clone (on markets and odds with different layout)
You cant void bets saying that the bettor is an arbitrag bettor, this is bullshit
Some traditional bookmakers tired to make such rules that arbitrage betting is not allowed , none of them in businnes now
And of corse if you would have any gambling license then it wont take too long, if the bettor make a complaint to the regulator and you try to explain it you void those bets because of arbitraging
You have only the right to limit the user and if you detect he makes another account you can freeze it, if you have such rules that only one account allowed.
so you have to resettle those bets according to results
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Admin try to delete my post again , we will see it was worth https://powerbet.io/pages/termsAs i see there is nothing about arbitrage betting in your tos Which is mega lol because until now i thought you have such rules So you have no right to void any bets saying arbitrage betting Jetwin also using such words " for recreational players" but as I remeber they voided my bets because they were very slow to update their lines and they voided them before the match started not afterwards and not only the winner ones, so mega unfair from powerbet For me is very recreational to get out a lot of money from the sportsbet industry via arbitrage betting, it is free money , very recreational , it is so refreshing for me  Please define what means recreational for you powerbet , i am not an expert in such not common words meaning Since we got his approval, here are just a few bets that contain clear indications of arbitrage betting (the 1st and most important is the stake value, than betting on double result - aggressive arbitrage - and - not to be ignored - the leagues the bets are placed on, which can also be a sign of arbitrage), of a rather long list: Sc-esv Parndorf vs Ask Royal Sped Klingenbach Asian Handicap -1.5 Stake 92.27Arsenal Tula vs Shakhtyor Karagandy Asian Handicap -1.5 Stake 51.39Lokomotiv Moscow vs Cska Sofia Three Way - Cska Sofia Stake 40.04Lokomotiv Moscow vs Cska Sofia Three Way - Draw Stake 51.82The list can continue with stakes such as: 15.79, 8.84, 66.18, 132.21, 36.49, 94.05, 94.85, 58.61, 40.37 and so on. For the punter, we strongly suggest this article: http://sportsarbitrageguide.com/avoiding_bookmaker_limits.phpThis is probably behavioural pattern of an arber but its not actually proof that the customer is arbing. +1 Another question : Did you void the winner bets only or the loser ones too ? Only winner bets. After last two wins my balance should have been 510 mbtc and thay updated it to 0. No details nothing and just banned me permanently. We have this healthy habit of deleting useless "educated" (actually pure troll posts that won't change our policy against arbers) posts from random people. The arbiter complaint is there as well as our resolution to it. We consider this enough info for potential arbitrators to decide if they want to try their luck with us. As mentioned before, anyone can feel free to start their own thread about arbitrage policies of various bookies, including us of course, but please refrain yourself from posting such oppinions on our thread. @OP, sorry for the intrusion on your thread - a very good one actually, but we felt this forum user that we quoted deserved a final reply from us. Maybe more arbitrators will finally understand that we have a strict policy against arbitrage, and we'll retroactively void arbitrage bets once deemed as such by clear indicators. Hi powerbet, Thanks for posting and feel free to post at any time. The recreational bettor only clause is standard and used by most books. As far as arbs go, are you talking in-house arbs where the player buys back the other side at powerbet to gain a profit. All bets are at powerbet? If that's the case, then you can cancel wagers. If you are assuming that a player is an arbitrage player using powerbet with another book, then the accusation of a player being an arbitrage bettor isn't valid. As far as the bonus goes, when a book has 100% bonus with an 8x rollover, it's going to draw many that multi-account. A book that accuses a player of multi-accounting must have air tight evidence that the player did indeed break the rules by multi-accounting. This thread is a player protection thread. The rules that you have in place that have been invoked are for lower tiered books that should be avoided. Top books do not confiscate winnings. You can ban a player, limit a player, but never confiscate winnings. A book that cancels winners free rolls players. The book keeps the losers and voids the winners. This isn't acceptable. The only post by powerbet in this thread is included above. |
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Peeps,
Have spoken to the folks at PowerBet.io?
Where are they located?
Do you think they are on the up and up?
They may be okay but just very aggressive about penalizing professional players?
Limiting or banning players is one thing, but cancelling wagers and confiscating funds is another.
I've been in contact with them. From the contact that I've had with them, they seem to be good guys and I hope that they make it. At this time I have to respect their wishes to not publicly post some of the information that they have shared. Their KYC rules are a negative. As you said, they penalize those that they claim to be professional. There's no reason to jump through hoops to receive a withdrawal. There are other books that aren't going to ask for KYC information unless they winnings are substantial. The top books aren't looking to confiscate funds, they want to make sure that they are paying the right person. Their margins are great but players should stay away from this book until they have more history and stop confiscating players funds. Here are a couple of precautions that were given. |
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The 1xbit.com scam will remain D until someone ask you for help?
"D" books aren't recommended. When lines of communication are lost, along with no pays, a book will be rated "F" since the chances of recouping losses is slim. So you are still in communication with the 1xbit scam? Oh, the chance to get powerbet balances is huge! 1xbit replies to communications. If anyone needs help, feel free to send me a PM. that is sounds fair enough , i have bad experience with them few months ago , withdrawal proccess takes quite a lot of time compared to any other bookmakers and really hard to reach the support to get some help when you are in trouble , deposited my money there for the first and last time. btw why jetwin.ps not yet rated? i thought it was one of the oldest bitcoin bookmaker? Their rating will be up again soon. They were offline for quite a while which is why they were taken down. It was done as a precaution to see if any changes had occurred. |
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The 1xbit.com scam will remain D until someone ask you for help?
"D" books aren't recommended. When lines of communication are lost, along with no pays, a book will be rated "F" since the chances of recouping losses is slim. So you are still in communication with the 1xbit scam? Oh, the chance to get powerbet balances is huge! 1xbit replies to communications. If anyone needs help, feel free to send me a PM. |
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The 1xbit.com scam will remain D until someone ask you for help?
"D" books aren't recommended. When lines of communication are lost, along with no pays, a book will be rated "F" since the chances of recouping losses is slim. |
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Powerbet downgraded to F.
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I am also experiencing problems with PowerBet. I have had a withdrawal on hold and pending for over a week now and Support has not responded to any of my contact messages.
Peeps, can you check with them, since you have had contact with them in the past?
Thanks!
If you shoot me a PM with your account number and permission to look into your account, I'll try to find out what's going on. |
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There have been many sportsbooks that have gone under or are stiffing players. "F" rated books
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15 The top three sportsbooks have a great reputation as far as paying sports gambling winners. Nitrogen has been in business since 2012 and the other two 2013. "A" rated booksnitrogensports.eu A+ (2012) betcoin.ag A- (2013) "B"rated booksbitcoinrush.io B (2013) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "C" rated bookssportsbet.io C (2016) anonibet.com C- (2011) cloudbet.com C-(2013) "D" rated bookscoinbet24.com D+ (2015) directbet.eu D+ (2014) 1xbit.com D (2016) lunarbets.eu D (2016) powerbet.io D (2016) |
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powerbet.io is a marathonbet clone with a higher (1%) margin (markets, handicap and total lines all the same , checked tennis and basketball)
it was so easy to detect, only some russian bookmakers offers all quarter team totals so early in the day
Thanks, didn't know that. |
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NCAA final tonight. Don't keep money in lower tiered books until some payouts start tomorrow. Super Bowl, World Cup and NCAA final are the most popular times for books to stiff.
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update  |
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Just a small update. I got a reply from them just now.
Thanks for the update. |
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I think it is bitsport.bet not bitsports.bet, but neither are loading. Error message 1009.
Is there really a domain suffix called .bet?!
Yes, it seems they have a Twitter account @bitsportbets and it says their domain is bitsport.bet. Last Tweet was March 14.
BITSPORT.BET SCAM STOLE 7 BITCOINS Thanks for the post. |
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update |
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Great feedback on the books. Exactly what we need.
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Peeps,
Have spoken to the folks at PowerBet.io?
Where are they located?
Do you think they are on the up and up?
They may be okay but just very aggressive about penalizing professional players?
Limiting or banning players is one thing, but cancelling wagers and confiscating funds is another.
I've been in contact with them. From the contact that I've had with them, they seem to be good guys and I hope that they make it. At this time I have to respect their wishes to not publicly post some of the information that they have shared. Their KYC rules are a negative. As you said, they penalize those that they claim to be professional. There's no reason to jump through hoops to receive a withdrawal. There are other books that aren't going to ask for KYC information unless they winnings are substantial. The top books aren't looking to confiscate funds, they want to make sure that they are paying the right person. Their margins are great but players should stay away from this book until they have more history and stop confiscating players funds. |
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