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1441  Economy / Gambling / Re: [SCAM] mBitCasino just CLOSED my account after a 3.5BTC I TRIED TO CASH OUT!?! on: February 23, 2017, 12:27:15 AM
Even though there was a breach in rules by the player, mBitCasino has agreed to pay the player.  All parties have agreed to refrain from further discussion on this matter.
1442  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of bitcoin only SPORTSBOOKS. Input wanted from all. on: February 21, 2017, 03:42:30 AM
New book - http://zombiewager.com/
1443  Economy / Gambling / Re: ***WARNING*** PLEASE DO NOT BET ON BETONLINE.AG on: February 20, 2017, 11:11:34 PM
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BetOnline.ag announces that they have cut third-party vendor Global Gaming Labs (GGL), in favor of Live Dealer Casino third-party vendor Visionary iGaming (ViG) – effective immediately!


Live Dealer casino games allow BetOnline.ag players to engage in a new level of interactive gaming experience with real cards, tables, and dealers — from their preferred device.

After client-side complaints regarding the number of available tables, games offered, lackadaisical dealers, and poor hand reporting became common-place (regarding GGL), BetOnline took on the task of finding a superior Live Casino Vendor.

After a month-long search in early January 2017, it was decided that ViG would offer a superior product for the BetOnline.ag Players.  ViG was notified mid-January, and as of 18 February 2017, the new vendor is in production on BetOnline.ag.  Client feedback has been very positive since the switchover!

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1444  Economy / Gambling / Re: [SCAM] mBitCasino just CLOSED my account after a 3.5BTC I TRIED TO CASH OUT!?! on: February 20, 2017, 07:57:19 AM
Okay, so I think I struck a deal with mBit, albeit not completely happy with it. Not at all.

I owe all of you whom helped a net share of 10% of 1.7 BTC, which I'll allocate (by percentage relative to help) in a later post once I receive my funds.

Big thanks @DarkDays, @joskim299, and @Peeps Place (thanks for offering to help at least... was confident you'd yield some results but I didn't want to wait).

Please post or PM me your BTC addresses and I will payout 170mBTC to all those whom contributed either on here or via PM.

I'd prefer you post your BTC address here publicly and confirm that I have "tipped" you for your help/contribution. This would help me gain trust among this forum - I stand by my word/ethics, so gaining "trust" or even just posting a confirmation that you received "tips" from me would be nice for the future.

So yes, I do tip out for decent help. I don't understand why mBit (besides obvious financial gain) would not take me at face value, but hopefully the rest of you guys believe me when I said I stood by my word and morality.

I sent out emails to support and admin at mbitcasino with some of the documentation that you had presented to me immediately after I received it from you. I'm not sure if that helped. If it did, I do not want any compensation. Give it to the others including arcanaaerobics.
1445  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of bitcoin only SPORTSBOOKS. Input wanted from all. on: February 20, 2017, 12:54:51 AM
Trying to catch up a bit, but does this leave 2 sportsbooks? Nitrogen and BitcoinRush?

One of which (BitcoinRush) no one outside of Peep on this forum even recommends? We handled over ~28,000 btc in bets (not a lot compared to the kings like Nitrogen, but still worth mentioning).


Surprised that you guys have stayed under the radar on most sites.
1446  Economy / Gambling / Re: ***WARNING*** PLEASE DO NOT BET ON BETONLINE.AG on: February 20, 2017, 12:31:12 AM
What is the name of BetOnline's Blackjack live dealer provider?

I read Chico Poker Network.
Source?
I just did a google search. A couple of places confirmed.
Did not find anything about Chico Poker Network, but Global Gaming Labs

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BetOnline Live Casino

Global Gaming Labs streams live BetOnline’s live dealer games from its land based studio in San Jose in Costa Rica.


I'm probably wrong. Live different? http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/unofficial-chico-network-betonline-tiger-etc-discussion-thread-1621890/
1447  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet casino's live dealer provider are scamming on all Blackjack tables on: February 20, 2017, 12:20:45 AM
If their casino room providers were cheating on this are the casinos personally responsible for that ?
Yes, because they are the contract partner with the player. But the victims can also sue the provider who committed the criminal offense.


Since Cloudbet had that same room I can imagine that they would have cheated sometime in the past as well.
Where is proof that BetOnine used Ezugi?

Peeps Place claims that the Chico Poker Network was the Blackjack live dealer provider.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/unofficial-chico-network-betonline-tiger-etc-discussion-thread-1621890/

Maybe I'm wrong. Live poker dealer different?
1448  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet casino's live dealer provider are scamming on all Blackjack tables on: February 19, 2017, 11:36:53 PM
In Costa Rica, sportsbooks don't have gambling licenses. They have Data Processing Licenses.

In Curacao, most books have sub-licenses.

For the most part, they don't offer any protection to the player.
1449  Economy / Gambling / Re: ***WARNING*** PLEASE DO NOT BET ON BETONLINE.AG on: February 19, 2017, 10:33:09 PM
What is the name of BetOnline's Blackjack live dealer provider?

I read Chico Poker Network.
Source?
I just did a google search. A couple of places confirmed.
1450  Economy / Gambling / Re: ***WARNING*** PLEASE DO NOT BET ON BETONLINE.AG on: February 19, 2017, 10:14:47 PM
If you play blackjack, do it at the provably fair bitcoin casinos.
From what I have seen, that isn't always the solution for new people. For sites like Nitrogensports, despite being provably fair there is a speculation that they set the initial seeds as such that it makes the dealer win more number of times. And since most of the people, new to gambling or on nitrogen, usually don't change their initial seeds, their bets later verify after they have lost a lot of hands.

I don't fully comprehend provably fair, but if there is one book that doesn't cheat, my opinion is that it would be Nitrogen.
1451  Economy / Gambling / Re: ***WARNING*** PLEASE DO NOT BET ON BETONLINE.AG on: February 19, 2017, 09:56:57 PM
What is the name of BetOnline's Blackjack live dealer provider?

I read Chico Poker Network.
1452  Economy / Gambling / Re: ***WARNING*** PLEASE DO NOT BET ON BETONLINE.AG on: February 19, 2017, 09:37:36 PM
If you play blackjack, do it at the provably fair bitcoin casinos.
1453  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of bitcoin only SPORTSBOOKS. Input wanted from all. on: February 17, 2017, 01:40:38 AM
game-protect, nice job getting information on the books. I read everything that you post and saw a couple of things that you posted on Cloudbet and sportsbet.io
1454  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of bitcoin only SPORTSBOOKS. Input wanted from all. on: February 17, 2017, 01:28:53 AM
There are pay sites much more accurate than Alexa. The decrease shown by Alexa is unrealistic.

It's easy to manipulate Alexa.

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I’ve already written several blog posts about Alexa and how notoriously bad its statistics are. Not really surprising that they are bad if you know how the data for those statistics is gathered. For the bulk of their data Alexa relies on people installing the Alexa Toolbar (or a toolbar that passes information to Alexa). It’s this toolbar that monitors to which websites you go and how you end up on them.

This has as a result that demographic, used browsers, and even the country visitors are from influence the data that Alexa gathers about a website. This can introduce serious artefacts and biases into the collected data and basically makes the statistics generated from it worthless. At best it can give you an idea about how well a website is doing, but that doesn’t mean that what you’re seeing matches reality. I’ve already written a far more detailed blog post about how Alexa works and why you never should rely on the data it provides; it’s just too unreliable.

The best illustration I have about how unreliable Alexa’s statistics are is from when I compared HotWhopper and Real Sceptic. According to Alexa I had a higher ranking than HotWhopper and  HotWhopper’s Alexa ranking was dropping noticeably. But HotWhopper had fourteen times the number of pageviews and had nine times more visitors than Real Sceptic. What made it even worse was that HotWhopper’s pageviews and visitors were increasing. Statistics from direct measurements told a very different story than the one Alexa was telling.

It also made me wonder if it was possible to influence Alexa ranking/statistics. As Alexa does mention on their website that there are some other sources for the data they gather. Turns out this is surprisingly easy to do.
https://www.realskeptic.com/2014/05/14/another-reason-use-alexa-statistics-easy-manipulate/
1455  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of bitcoin only SPORTSBOOKS. Input wanted from all. on: February 16, 2017, 07:12:28 PM
Your A- rated betcoin.ag sportsbook is recently in free fall on Alexa Global Rank: 163,185 - 55,576 = 51% down within 2 months!

So it might be dangerous to bet there...

- Betcoin.ag Alexa ranks: Global Rank:  163,185 - 55,576 = 51% down   Rank in US: 66,962  

- NitrogenSports Alexa ranks: Global Rank: 51,627 + 12,032 = 20% up   Rank in US: 12,591

You have to have an Alexa toolbar to measure Alexa traffic. Alexa is easily manipulated. The bitcoin market is dominated by Nitrogen (#1), Cloudbet, then Betcoin.
1456  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of bitcoin only SPORTSBOOKS. Input wanted from all. on: February 16, 2017, 07:00:54 AM
Added live streaming to the grid. Betcoin added live streaming eSports. Also added provably fair. Both Nitrogen and Betcoin are provably fair.

https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-sports-completes-another-major-update



1457  Economy / Gambling / Re: Which site is the best for sports betting? on: February 15, 2017, 02:28:24 PM
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books
sportsbet.io C (2016)
anonibet.com  C- (2011)
cloudbet.com C-(2013)

"D" rated books
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)
lunarbets.eu D (2016)
powerbet.io D (2016)
directbet.eu D (2014)




Exchanges
betbtc.co (2014)
fairlay.com (2014)
betmatch.is (2016

Prediction Markets
btcbet.us (2016)
betmoose.com (2014)
predictious.com  (2013)

Mutual Betting
Onehash.com



"F" rated books
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

BetVIP - closed 6/12/15

NR

bitgame.online
jetwin.ps  (2013)
1xbit (2016)


Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
1458  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of bitcoin only SPORTSBOOKS. Input wanted from all. on: February 13, 2017, 06:42:18 PM
The case between h4ns and 1xbit has been resolved. The rating will be upgraded when complete details are known.
1459  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of bitcoin only SPORTSBOOKS. Input wanted from all. on: February 13, 2017, 04:17:01 AM
"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)

"C" rated books
sportsbet.io C (2016)
anonibet.com  C- (2011)
cloudbet.com C-(2013)

"D" rated books
coinbet24.com D+ (2015)
lunarbets.eu D (2016)
powerbet.io D (2016)
directbet.eu D (2014)




Exchanges
betbtc.co (2014)
fairlay.com (2014)
betmatch.is (2016

Prediction Markets
btcbet.us (2016)
betmoose.com (2014)
predictious.com  (2013)

Mutual Betting
Onehash.com


"F" rated books
1xbit F (2016) ...............confiscated 4.3 BTC from player. Associated with 1xbet that has made other confiscations.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Ghostbook (TOR)
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

BetVIP - closed 6/12/15

NR

bitgame.online
jetwin.ps  (2013)


Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
1460  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: February 12, 2017, 02:55:39 AM
Only 3 books are recommended until after the Super Bowl.

"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu A+ (2012)
betcoin.ag A- (2013)

"B"rated books
bitcoinrush.io B (2013)
SBR user rating A+

- 5Dimes

- BetAnySports

- BetOnline

We are going to keep this thread to bitcoin only books. Books accepting fiat currencies are excluded.
Thank you for the info. Smiley

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