I'm not dismissing this coin, it does have massive potential if it gets the massive numbers of downloads BUT the price people have paid for it makes it very fragile once it hits the exchanges. I think people can scoop up this coin at half the price it's at in this sale probably much less.
The token have a use contrary to most altcoins. You need to buy tokens to advertise on the network. The fees are much cheaper if you use tokens instead of BTC. It is ideal for micro payment. Owning more tokens gives you bonus in the reward system. When you invest, never go all-in. I personally keep half of my investment to buy latter if the price go down. So, what's the date when we can withdraw GEMZ from Koinify?
At the end of the token sale. |
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J'ai testé, deux jours et une nuit: pas l'ombre d'une once de Monero. C'est impossible. Il faut bien mettre ton adresse dans le mineur. Va voir sur le site http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/ et entre ton adresse dans la case :  Tu sauras exactement combien tu as miné. Le site me répond "not found"  J'ai mis mon adresse dans le fichier texte et je vois bien qu'elle est reprise dans l'application. Tout semble bien se passer, des blocs sont trouvés mais mon solde reste désespérément statique. Je viens de tester à l'instant : - j'ai créé une adresse Monero sur mymonero - j'ai entré cette adresse dans le miner - j'ai miné et attendu d'avoir une share "accepted" dans le miner - je suis allé sur le site, collé mon adresse et tout y est  Si le site te répond "not found" c'est que l'adresse que tu as entré n'a jamais envoyé une seule share (travail). C'est certainement une erreur de copié collé. |
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Not sure who wrote this, it's getting out of topic but I have some spare time to answer the red angry stuff. WRONG, dunno what games you claim to have played, SWTOR/SWG/GW1/GW2/KnightOnline/Warhammer/WoW/Runescape/anything else you can think of are NOT centralized. Rather it is calculated in a similar fashion to bitcoin, sometimes a bitcoin block is found in 1 minute, sometimes 40 minutes. Sometimes you get an awesome drop from killing a monster the first minute, sometimes 40 minutes. It is all allocated based on an averaged random chance. Also there are MMO games and other games out there that DO let you convert into fiat, SecondLife comes to mind as the easiest example so you have no clue what you are talking about.Every game you listed is hosted on a central server. If the server is down, you cannot play. The game devs can change any rules regarding the virtual currency anytime without notice. All data are stored on a central database. I've been doing some research and I cannot find any equivalent of Second Life that allows you to convert the virtual currency to FIAT money legally. If you have so much clue of what we are talking about, I am waiting for your example and explanations... WRONG. Younger people and middle age people primarily use online banking, it is free. Go to a bank and stand around for 10 hours, I would make a safe bet most of the people going in there are of an older generation/poor.Source ? Here is one for my claim : 49% of US adults still do not use online banking. In many countries there are very little or no online banking at all. You are using the word obsolete wrongly here. You are meaning to say outdated. Obsolete =/ outdated. For example, my graphics card is a HD6870 and is like 3 to 4 years old? It still runs most games at max graphics, it is outdated but not obsolete. If it was obsolete it couldn't still perform it's function as efficiently as a newer card does. However next year it will start becoming obsoleted because graphics get better, eventually it won't be able to run things in low graphics settings, which hence makes it obsolete.Obsolete is the right word here. You can still use your graphic card with new games but it can be slow = outdated. You cannot install any new application or update the OS of your old iPhone = obsolete. Sellers and merchants pay fees and they are used to it. They use what they know, and if they start to know bitcoin more and more then they will use it. So because you never heard of someone using something I must be wrong huh? I used Google Wallet and so do some of my friends and using a credit card with Amex saves me 6% on groceries, which is like paying no tax since the tax is 6%. So I don't know wtf you're on about. People are going to use rewards credit cards and credit cards offer more benefits. Bitcoin doesn't offer cash advance, and credit rating boosts to get cheaper loans on a house and all the other stuff. You need to calm down and not be some kind of extremist on the forums. No one cares here, we all know wtf bitcoin is, stop trying to tell us it is something it is not. Christ.A lot of countries do not have access to bankcard or credit. Most counties in Africa for example. Some countries that have debit cards refuse to use credit cards. In France for example, there are almost only debit cards because credit cards are considered a scam by consumers. I am so calm you cannot imagine, almost like sleeping, my hands are typing by themselves while I doing something else. I don't even use 1% of my brain replying to you. No problem at all. |
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J'ai testé, deux jours et une nuit: pas l'ombre d'une once de Monero. C'est impossible. Il faut bien mettre ton adresse dans le mineur. Va voir sur le site http://monero.crypto-pool.fr/ et entre ton adresse dans la case : Tu sauras exactement combien tu as miné. |
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Hi folks,
We'll upgrade to a more stable server config soon.
I'll tell you exactly the time later.
See you,
SR
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Ah the pain of adoption Well looking at it this way it will take us 10 years to get a nice ROI 20 Years to own a microsoft haha The rate of technological progress is exponential. It should take less that 10 years. In 1995, fax machines were everywhere, and email was very inconvenient. Now some 20 years later, who uses fax machines? So I guess bitcoin is very similar in this respect. Credit cards and payment systems are everywhere, and bitcoin is very inconvenient for most. In another 20 years, bitcoin could revolutionise our payment habits.
I can't believe our society still use debit/credit cards... No.
There are tons of video games with virtual currency in them and a lot of people completely understand the concept.
Those virtual currencies are extremely centralized, cannot be used anywhere else than the video game and cannot be exchanged for FIAT currency. There have been online banking payment systems for years and years.
Most people still don't use it. I sell things online and most buyers don't know how to do a bank transfer. There are a ton of mobile payment solutions that charge 0% fees that are currently superior to Bitcoin(in terms of no fees only of course).
Apple Pay and Google Wallet are going to dominate everything and a lot of people are blindly ignoring it. BTC is fine for the people who know technology.
No. All of these solutions have high fees that are paid by the seller/merchant. The customer do not see it because it is included in the product price. It is exceptional to see someone using Bitcoin but I never ever heard about someone using Google Wallet. I just seen that there was many security flaws, the blockchain doesn't have any. Apple Pay ? lol, 800 USD for the paying device that is obsolete in 1 year ? |
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Go buy some roubles while they are cheap  ) Better to buy some property. Good idea! Buy roubles while they are cheap, and buy more property. It is far from being the bottom... |
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Lol il n'y a que sangoku pour n'avoir pas compris que cette image est ironique  Police d'écriture merdique + pixelisé à mort + un gros cul + le logo DRK sous le cul (hello ??) Darkcoin is a big shit. Get it ? |
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Ça ne peut pas descendre a zéro de toute façon. Soit ça monte, soit ça descend. Oui je sais : Thx captain obvious  bah ouais, et puis plus ça baisse, plus on à de chances d'avoir de beaux rebonds il me semble Patience est le maître mot, ne jamais vendre sous le prix de revient, ne jamais acheter au dessus, et quand on n'a plus de sous ... Quand on a plus de sous, aller faire un emprunt à la banque pour acheter des cryptomonnaies ;-)
La question ne se pose pas. Si l'on peut se permettre de faire des investissements c'est que l'on a une source de revenu. Tant que l'on a une source de revenu, on a jamais tout perdu. Le valeur de son capital a un instant t n'est pas important si l'on sait qu'il fluctue. |
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Non, justement, je ne veux pas spéculer avec de l'argent dont je vais avoir besoin. C'était une hypothèse pour expliquer en quoi tu racontais n'importe quoi.
J'ai environ 20% de mon capital en btc. Je peux le perdre, ça ne changera pas ma vie de tous les jours. Mais les 80% restant ne sont pas entièrement disponibles, et sont moins accessibles que mes bitcoins. Donc si j'avais besoin d'argent demain de manière plus qu'exceptionnelle, c'est là dedans que je serai obligé de piocher. Et je veux éviter.
Donc tu as investis de l'argent dont tu pourrais avoir besoin rapidement...  On ne peut pas savoir ce dont on aura besoin. Peut importe ce que tu mets de coté, il y a toujours la possibilité que 10 fois ce que tu as ne te suffisent pas de toute façon. Bitcoin n'est qu'une expérience, c'est indiqué sur le site http://www.bitcoin.fr/ et assez répété partout, notamment dans le film the rise and rise of bitcoin  Et ? |
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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. |
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Alors tu n'as pas compris ce que voulait le créateur du Bitcoin, n'investir que l'argent que vous pouvez vous permettre de perdre ;-)
Il n'a pas dit qu'il investissait tout son restant à vivre. Lol au final t'achète jamais rien ;-)
Je suis déjà très (qui a dit trop ?) investi. Alors j'essaye d'en racheter plus que lorsque c'est vraiment intéressant. Exactement. Pour un investisseur de longue date, il faut ne racheter que lorsque cela fait significativement baisser la moyenne d'achat. Un nouvel investisseur achètera plus fréquemment. |
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I like the discussion, especially fluffypony's thoughts on the utility of XMR being more important than mere speculation.
I have this thought:
Monero will be a seriously formidable currency when there are Monero forks (clones).
There are already two. They went nowhere You thought they were just two ? No, there are at least 8 clones : QCN/FCN/Aeon/Duck/Dash/OEC/MCN/ORION All DEAD in a matter of few weeks. |
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I just tried the miner for fun on Linux and it works if you have Wine installed. I can only make it work for the CPU but I'm on a laptop. 
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Est-ce possible de miner avec le client monero?
J'ai tapé start_mining il y a quelques temps, bitmonerod m'a souhaité "good luck" mais pas l'ombre d'un monero à l'horizon...
Lol c'est nouveau ce message parce-que ça n'y était pas à l'époque où l'on solo-minait. Non on ne peut pas car il faut créer une instance par cpu-thread mais bref tu vois c'est compliqué et en plus c'est tres lent. Sans parler du fait que c'est du solo-mining donc 1 block en 6 mois avec de la chance. Utilise ça : One Click Monero MinerEDIT : lol je viens de tester, le mineur marche même sur Linux avec Wine. |
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Ça ne peut pas descendre a zéro de toute façon. Soit ça monte, soit ça descend. Oui je sais : Thx captain obvious
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bonjour: J'ai suivi un tutoriel d'ensemble sur le bitcoin via youtube, et les 3/4 des liens dans la description sont mort.. Je pense que c'est bien de se lancer maintenant même si il y a des fermes à 600000000000khb bref... Si j'ai bien compris cela ne sert à rien de miner des bitcoins puisque le cryptage en ash-256 ne rapporte rien si petite configuration donc il faut se tourner vers CRYPT , utilisé par les litecoins, ou dogcoin,etc...C'est plus rentable pour une petite config... Je cherche un tutoriel net et précis sous linux (j'ai un pc sous ubuntu, un nas sous debian, et le rasperry pi, fan boy linux ) ce que je veux faire -m'ouvrir un portfeuille -Miner du litecoin et pouvoir échanger sur les places de marcher contre du bitcoin... -j'aimerai aussi tester les sites ou il faut cliquer sur la pub pour gagner du bitcoin... J'ai vu qu'il y avait des applications qui s'occuper de tout, minage litecoin puis echange contre bitcoin et mis sur mon portfeuille... Je n'ai trouvé aucun tutoriel qui explique pas à pas, tout ça sous linux... merci de votre aide Ben si c'est juste histoire de comprendre, essaye de compiler BitcoinQt ou télécharge la version compilé pour linux et lance le minage : Help > Debug Window > Console et tape : Voila. Tu mines. Essayes ces commandes pour le fun : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_client/API_calls_list |
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And also the vast majority dont care about the tech. The reason so many social apps fail is because they can't shift people away from what they currently use. For sure some Telegram users might shift but the Facebook and Twitter hordes are a different matter, and if were honest there is little chance of that happening when some far bigger projects have failed to make a dent. Im not saying this is not a good idea because I like all this stuff. Will I invest? probably not but in a way I do hope I regret that.
And im currently still using Telegram, Unseen.is, Skype (for work), Twitter, but not Facebook because they really are the devil!
I totally see them moving away as fast as they came. I remember when I started using Facebook and talking about it : everyone looked me like an alien, a lot of people were using "MySpace" and they couldn't see the reason to move to FB. Today, I don't know anyone that don't use FB and I no one remember "MySpace". Technology and habits move extremely fast. People tend to forget how was the world 5 years ago like if they have Alzheimer. |
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I have 30 bitcoinz..... will I ever be "wealthy"?
Cuz at current price it's worth shit
The people that got millionaire last year where hodling for about 4 years. How long have you been hodling ? |
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