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2341  Economy / Reputation / Re: @suchmoon could you provide info on this on: February 09, 2019, 11:56:09 PM
I hate to burst your bubble, but you have publicly acknowledged your dox and is publicly available on your post history.

From the looks of it, the accusation in the OP is frivolous, but exposing your dox will only post what you have posted.

Bullshit. My dox was posted before theymos changed the rules and there was fuck all I could do at the time other than smile and take it on the chin. After the Investigations board was established I started reporting all occurrences to be moved there but it's a fucking whack-a-mole when assholes like Thule and you don't give a shit about rules. You should also report it when you see it, instead of gloating and using my dox when you disagree with me in P&S.
You have acknowledged your dox, and have posted your dox within your posting history, and as such (to the extent information is found within your posting history), posting your dox is allowed, even with the new rules. If you are reporting posts with this information, you either do not understand the rules, do not care about the rules, or are trying to cause problems for people that do not like you.


Such righteous. Tell your scammer buddy above to do the same with the "pill addiction" thread  Smiley
In the case of this thread, the OP got his information from a zero post newbie account, and I got my information from someone who I have reason to trust, and have reason to believe. The OP has not described what he asked his source, while I have explained how specifically my source claims to know the information provided to me.

The above is a distinction you either have not noticed, or more likely do not care about and have ignored.
2342  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: February 09, 2019, 11:48:17 PM
I think the trust system does way more harm to the community than good, it should be removed IMO. The amount of people I get direct messaging me on Twitter complaining how they stopped using this forum because of issues around trust is noticeable, or ranting about Lauda. I don't think these people are necessarily scammers either.

Better to just remove it. I'm sure the overall happiness of the community would go way up. Let people figure out for themselves if someone or a business is trustworthy, as they do on the rest of the internet. It's a noble idea but it just builds resentment among members which might actually lead to more shady and dubious behavior. Mobs going around bullying members with trust scores is shady activity. Feels like more people complain about getting their trust fucked with and characters like Lauda than they do about scams here.

Trust scores are mostly meaningless, it's closer to a popularity contest than a true measure of someone's trustworthiness. Just by using this site, all of you are implicitly trusting me, but that isn't reflected at all in my trust score, in fact I probably seem less trustworthy on first observation than some actual shady people on here. There's so much angst with the whole system, maybe there's a way to make it work better, and tweaking it could eventually lead to that, but for now it just looks like something that's dividing the community.
The problems with the trust system started when threads complaining about DT ratings were moved from Meta to Reputation, which coincided with when DT ratings effectively stopped being both moderated and mediated by the administration and forum. This allowed complaints about trust ratings to go ignored, and those who left questionable ratings were no longer forced to defend their ratings, and ultimately has lead to complaints about ratings being answered with cat pictures and other trolling.

The trust system got much worse (and if the above alone happened, it probably would not have gotten anywhere near as bad as it is now) when Blazed was added to DT1, and eventually added several questionable people who didn't have any business in being in any position of authority. These questionable people eventually earned reputation, conducted business successfully, and were able to "tag" enough scammers for others to trust them, however there were a lot of people "tagged" along the way who weren't by any reasonable definition a "scammer" nor could you reasonably say why they would attempt to scam in the future. IMO, adding Blazed to DT1, and more specifically/importantly, keeping him there when problems went unaddressed, was probably the single worse decision theymos has made as admin (assuming each time the forum was hacked was the result of a bad decision on his part). I can't really blame theymos for adding Blazed to DT1 in the first place, at the time he was trusted by many, had an extensive trading history, was known to be fair both when dealing with others and in his trust ratings, and was willing to take responsibility when he messed up; for the most part, this is mostly true, although he was involved in this escrow dispute in which millions of dollars were unaccounted for, although it is unclear his specific role as there were multiple escrows, perhaps the reason he escaped unscathed was the lack of public statements and transparency, which is something I find shady in-itself, but I digress. None of these reasons are enough to account for ignoring problems with his trust list.

The problem with ignoring abuses of the trust system for years, as has been done, is that once someone has been "tagged" for a long time, they cannot easily be "untagged" even if the abusers are removed from the trust system. For example, the last time Lauda was outright excluded from DT, some accounts "woke up" and when straight to the lending section to ask for a loan; most of these accounts were probably not reasonably scammers when they were tagged, and if not for the inactivity that was likely caused by the red trust, it might not be unreasonable to believe these people would repay their loans had they not just gotten their "red trust" removed. Obviously given the circumstances, they were unlikely to repay any loan they might receive, and were likely attempting to scam via taking a loan they had no intention of repaying.

The current state of the trust system does not do much in terms of protecting against scammers because the criteria that so many people use to leave negative trust spans so far beyond "tagging" because someone is a "scammer" that the value of "tagging" has become diminished. Someone could attempt to do business with someone with negative trust after reading the comment and believing it is safe to do business with the person, and end up getting scammed, and this could happen many times because the non-DT negative ratings can be chalked up to being from trolls and/or competitors, while the DT negative trust will still not explain why it is unsafe to do business with the scammer.

I have no good solution as to what to do with the trust system. Ideally, we would go back to moderately moderating the trust system, and forcing people to defend their ratings when disputed, however this would also need to involve removing many people from the trust network (see above problem). The forum is also a lot bigger than it was back then, and as such it would be difficult to suddenly accounting for all that growth in terms of the number of disputes; the trust network would also need to be bigger than it was back then, although perhaps not as big as it was immidiately prior to this thread. I don't think the new system is a good change to the trust system, nor is anything that does "not generally be trying to cultivate a good list". There does not appear to be an admin who responds to many meta threads and as such, I don't believe there is an admin who monitors all meta threads (like BadBear did). I think outright getting rid of the trust system is probably extreme.

EDIT: Where are all the scam busters when an ACTUAL THREAT appears?
Perhaps they were doing something similar to what they were doing in this thread.
2343  Economy / Reputation / Re: VIP Member hacked? on: February 09, 2019, 06:25:40 AM
Hey. PM me, BTC_Bear.


I PM’ed him to make him aware of this post and he said he sent you a message.
2344  Economy / Reputation / Re: @suchmoon could you provide info on this on: February 09, 2019, 05:42:11 AM
Thule threatened to dox me, when that didn't have the intended effect he came up with this cockamamie accusation. Now dug up the old dox too... He tried this doxing shit on Vod too. Deranged lunatic.



Let's see what kind of information we will get

I see this as an attempt to intimidate. Not going to work but feel free to waste your money.
I hate to burst your bubble, but you have publicly acknowledged your dox and is publicly available on your post history.

From the looks of it, the accusation in the OP is frivolous, but exposing your dox will only post what you have posted.
2345  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: February 08, 2019, 09:10:44 PM
So no one cares why they are doing this? They are just trolls so fuckem? Has anyone considered this is a symptom of other issues?

Hopefully, if we live in a world that allows disparate ideas, then there will always be voices of dissent.  So, the mere fact that there are some dissenters who are attempting to be vocal and effective with their actions does not necessarily lead to the conclusion that they are correct, when they likely represent a very small percentage of the forum's population.
I would suggest that you look at the trust ratings of some of these people, including when the ratings were left, and revisit if you believe that dissent is “allowed” (effectively and without having your ability to conduct business essentially removed).
2346  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bezos allegedly extorted w/Dick pics by Nat'l enquirer on: February 08, 2019, 05:55:24 PM
These are really interesting times for the US, everyday in the news like Venezuela now. Trump is going to make the US either sink or float. So much controversies around the White House. But I like these exposures as they go a long way to show us what the kitchen of the rich looks like.
Pun intended?
2347  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: February 08, 2019, 02:51:16 PM
I put a certain established poster here in my personalised trust list last night. I’ve signed into btctalk.org today & checked who trusts me etc & it seems the following users have distrusted me presumably as a result of putting said established poster in my trust list -

LFC_Bitcoin is Distrusted by:
Thule (20 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
endlasuresh (3 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
DutchFinity (2 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Danica22 (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
ac2eugenio (1 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Bazinga442 (21 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Deena (37 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
mr.creampie (10 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
chickinini (11 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
cryptorgasm (4 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
TinaMoran (10 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Pablojob (10 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
PiningGarcia (10 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
PingGermoco (10 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
NilaMutac (10 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
cryptopov (4 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
poypototoy (10 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
Zin-Zang (10 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
H8bussesNbicycles (5 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)
gwsukabokepjepang (0 Merit earned) (Trust feedback) (Trust list) (BPIP)

I’d like to make it clear that I don’t believe I’ve interacted with any of these cunts.
I now have more people distrusting me than people who trust me.

Anybody else been a victim of a ‘mass distrust’ in a short period of time despite being a perfectly honest member of the community?
I presume you are referring to putting lauda in your trust list.

I speculate these people are distrusting you because you have a known extortionist, and someone who has been unwilling to account for over a million dollars they were holding as escrow.

Perhaps you can add a ~ in front of lauda
2348  Economy / Reputation / Re: @suchmoon could you provide info on this on: February 08, 2019, 08:04:02 AM
If you received this screenshot in its redacted form from a zero post newbie, then I would suggest locking this thread. (I think this is what you are saying). You don't have any way to assess the credibility of the evidence, and the evidence is not credible. Suchmoon has denied the validity of the screenshot.
2349  Other / Politics & Society / Bezos allegedly extorted w/Dick pics by Nat'l enquirer on: February 08, 2019, 08:00:21 AM
Amazon founder Jeff Bezos posted a medium blog post alleging that Trump supporter's National Enquirer attempted to extort him with the threat of publishing "dick pics" and other sexually explicit pics (likely sent to his mistress whom he was cheating on his wife with) unless Bezos uses his propaganda newspapers, The Washington Post to say that the National Enquirer was not being used for political purposes.

This comes amid the National Enquirer exposing Bezos having an affair as a married man, publishing text messages between Bezos and his mistress, and Bezos attempting to investigate how these text messages leaked.

Bezos published what he purported to be emails from various employees of the National Enquirer.
2350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: INF treaty ends - should the US get rid of John Bolton on: February 08, 2019, 07:39:25 AM
The US has been alleging that Russia has not been keeping up with this treaty for a long time.
2351  Economy / Reputation / Re: @suchmoon could you provide info on this on: February 08, 2019, 07:37:27 AM
A zero post newbie is begging you to remove the screenshot for one of three reasons:

  • Someone thinks the screenshot might be real and wants to protect suchmoon
  • Someone wants to make suchmoon look bad
  • Someone wants to create more drama

What ultimately matters is if the screenshot is real.
2352  Economy / Reputation / Re: @suchmoon could you provide info on this on: February 08, 2019, 06:45:47 AM
Do you accuse me of framing ?

I don't know if morvillz7z did but I do, because I know for a fact that the story is false and you've been threatening me for a while, so 2+2. There is no plausible reason for some random third party to make up this story and then send it to someone like you when there are far more capable shit-stirrers available, like Quicksy just above. So most likely you just made it up yourself.


You are getting your confidence back thanks to your threats to him ?

I will allow 2 persons to see if these PM's are legit.
2 Persons i trust are ognasty and mrep.
theymos unfortunately denied checking my PM's
The issue is not what is in your PM inbox, the question is if the person who sent you the screenshot has a PM from Suchmoon similar to what the screenshot says.

I would say that I believe you have a PM with that screenshot in your inbox. What I think is less likely is that someone received a PM similar to what the screenshot shows.
2353  Economy / Reputation / Re: @suchmoon could you provide info on this on: February 07, 2019, 11:52:08 PM
100% fake.
It looks like suchmoon has denied the allegations, so the OP needs to provide actual proof, similar to what others (and myself) have suggested.

If this is fake, and so far, all signs point in that direction, this will be harmful to the community and will only make it easier for someone in a similar situation to scam in the future as these frivolous claims cause future claims to be taken less seriously. 
2354  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Dox'ed][Video Proof]Lauda [safe space] on: February 07, 2019, 10:34:04 PM
That video is probably a parody about leftists and libturds. Why single out some random guy when whole Bitcointalk is full of libturds, leftists, anarchists, capitalists, communists and lemmings?
Is this persons description of how he spends his day and how he interacts with people on the internet not exactly how lauda does the same?
2355  Economy / Reputation / Re: Former Staff member Lauda has a pill addiction - *not disputed by lauda* on: February 07, 2019, 03:56:28 PM
[...] QS has now dropped to very least trusted person (still) on the forum.

No!!! Even less than Inaba/BFL?!? WoW!!!  Shocked
This goes to show how much certain people want power.
2356  Other / Meta / Re: Current stance towards automatic service bumping bots? on: February 07, 2019, 03:52:02 PM
You wouldn’t be the first to offer this kind of service.

This is not disallowed and falls within the rules to the extent there are no duplicate bumps and no more than one bump every 24 hours.

I would actually suggest bumping every 27-28 hours so that different time zones will see the thread at the top over time.
2357  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump condemns socialism in SOTU on: February 07, 2019, 03:37:25 PM
The US is a two-time world war champion.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Sincerely,
Europe


I am not sure if you are serious or not. The Axis quite literally controlled all of Europe except for England in WW2 prior to D-Day, which wouldn’t have been possible without American troops and resources. The allies again in WW1 didn’t have victory in sight until the surge of American troops.

Perhaps your revisionist view is the result of hatred of America and desire of liberalism.

All of these socialists, while applauding, are saying to themselves "But this time, doing it MY WAY, things will be different."

I was going to give a few examples of how extremely successful some democratic socialist countries are.  Some examples of how all democracies have varying degree's of social programs beloved by their citizens (please don't go to a sporting event where tax payers paid for the fucking stadium you socialist piece of shit!).  But then I remembered Murica and you're right if you guys tried to implement anything even remotely logical you would fuck it up and likely would end up like Venezuela, just look how you turned democracy into kleptocracy all while having citizens armed to the teeth for a revolution but sat on your balls while the elite shoved a cactus up your asshole (WMD, 2008 banking crisis LMFAO)!
The socialist countries you speak of have national defense subsidized by the rest of the world, namely the US. The same can be said of healthcare as these countries pay much less for medicines and medical treatment than the rest of the world, meaning recouping investment in creating the drugs must come from elsewhere.
2358  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Dox'ed][Video Proof]Lauda [safe space] on: February 07, 2019, 03:20:07 PM
Above is a video of Lauda explaining how he spends her day around here.

Quickseller was never able to understand gender...  Sad
I identify this post correctly showing laudas gender.

The signed message I posted proves this fact.
2359  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: February 07, 2019, 03:18:17 PM
It seems like theymos doesn’t like merit being given for political purposes. I can’t really disagree with this, but realistically this happened prior to the new DT system was put in place.

The above begs the question if it is acceptable to *not* give merit for political purposes.

I am on the fence if this is currently happening, but is a question to discuss.
2360  Other / Off-topic / [Dox'ed][Video Proof]Lauda [safe space] on: February 07, 2019, 08:30:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBdnyrzq96s

Above is a video of Lauda explaining how he spends her day around here.

I know this is him because he is the only person who can possibly describe themselves and their day the way the person in the video does.

Note on doxing rules:
I have posted an encrypted message below that I am calling a signed message that will entirely absolve me from any wrongdoing in making this thread, and if you disagree, you are a scammer, and want to help scammers.
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