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1561  Other / Meta / Re: Division of Powers on: May 20, 2019, 09:22:31 PM
Update as to under what circumstances newbies can be banned

Moderators cant ban Users , only Global Mods and admins as far i know !
Patrollers (at one point, the majority of mods were patrollers -- moderators of newbies) can ban Brand New and Newbie accounts.

Regular mods can ban Newbies if they haven't been whitelisted by another mod, don't have Copper membership (IIRC), and have less than 150 posts or less than 30 posts if they have earned at least 1 merit.
1562  Other / Meta / Re: [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits on: May 20, 2019, 04:34:28 PM
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I’ve just checked it on the Merit Dashboard and @Quickseller (as of last Friday) had earned 552 non-airdropped Merits, while having sent 488 sMerits. The 552 earned merits would account for 276 sent sMerits out of the 488 sent sMerits. The remaining 212 sent sMerits could be part of the initial sMerit airdrop (or not):
 
Since Legendries could have received up to 400 sMerits depending on their activity (see re:Initial sMerit for every rank?), those 212 sent sMerits may have come from the initial sMerit airdrop, from being a Merit Source, or a combination of both. Just by looking at the numbers I don’t think we can determine that he is a Merit Source yet.

You can assert that someone is a Merit Source of the total amount or sent sMerits > (Received floor(sMerits/2) + Max potential airdropped sMerit for the rank), but just before this value there is a grey area due to not knowing the exact amount of airdropped sMerits.


Many appointed Merit Sources tend to have small allowances to start-off with. They also are often people that earn merits (thus generating sMerits), so during the first months, the awarded sMerits from the Merit Source allocation may not exceed the generated/unspent sMerits, and thus remain undetected (as is the case of @Coolcryptovator I presume).

I believe that the maximum that any Legendaries could have received on the initial airdrop would have been 200, so Quickseller has spent an excess of 12 merits which would explain why he has been detected as a merit source.

By the way, it does appear that as of last week, theymos added an additional 7 merit sources (raising the total merit sources from 123 to 130)
I believe he actually added 8 new merit sources because one was removed.
1563  Other / Meta / Re: Viewing TRUST when not logged in on: May 20, 2019, 03:31:42 PM
<DUCKING>  Next step is to post that same warning on the same users even when the user is logged in!  Cheesy Cheesy

This, the big red warning should be seen by registered members also, not just unregistered viewers.

So many registered newbies just don't see what's right in front of them and get scammed by a seller with plenty of red trust. If the same big warning was seen by registered members as seen by unregistered viewers  then that would go a long way to stop scamming.

Why is the fraudulent post not deleted by user "drimix"?
Because scans are not moderated here and because the mods cannot know for sure if something is a scam or not.
1564  Economy / Reputation / Re: Hhampuz Reputation Thread on: May 20, 2019, 07:09:53 AM
@Quickseller I admire the determination , everyone keeps telling you that you are wrong, but you don't give a fudge , i love it   Grin.

Not that my opinion matters a lot  Roll Eyes, but @Hhampuz is probably one of the kindest members I have interacted with on the forum,besides him being so professional in managing campaigns (based on my experience) - I was in one of the campaigns he manages when i was accepted by @Darkstar_ to Chipmixer, and it happened like 2 days before the payout for that week.

Hhampuz was nice enough to ask Darkstart_ on my behalf ( and another member or 2) if we could keep the signature so that we don't miss the prev campaign payout, he went to the extent of PMing me to let me know that  Darkstar_ said it was okay to do so (Thanks @Darkstar_ btw) .

He did not have to do all that , he could have easily deleted my name from the spreadsheet and moved on, but he took all the time and effort to worry about someone else's benefit, this guy is amazing , regardless of what you have to say about him.
I am glad he went out of his way to help you participate in a new signature campaign. Your antidote doesn’t really have anything to do with Hhampuz personality benefiting from the campaigns he runs while harming his clients.
1565  Economy / Reputation / Re: Hhampuz Reputation Thread on: May 20, 2019, 05:48:04 AM
Anybody who questions his integrity clearly has a motive.
Are you talking about integrity such as accepting his friend who recently had plagiarized at the time?

It is actually sad, someone gave them second chance and then they choose to shit on that person.
Second chance? At what exactly? Speak slowly so I can understand.


I think I already know the answer....not criticizing you and your friends.

I continue to wear the signature to show there is no repetitional concern of my advertising for livecoin.

Don't try to spread that BS to thickly.  You're still wearing the banners out of spite, and you know it.  You have no altruistic reason to promote some new random exchange, and if the circumstances were different you would stop wearing their banners the minute you were taken off their payroll.  All you're doing is flaunting your power struggle with Hhampuz.  Shame on you for being such a bully.
You are correct I have no altruistic reason to keep my signature up, as stated the signature remained up because I wanted to point out there are no negative reputation harm to livecoin - the entity Hhampuz is ultimately getting paid by to maximize advertisements for -- of my wearing their signature.

Hhazmpuz's reply confirms that:
I removed you due to receiving messages from many members, yes. [...]

 You are no longer being paid by me or by LiveCoin and this, the wearing of them, sees no benefit for you.

He confirmed the reason he did not want me wearing the signature was because I was no longer being paid.

it didn't surprise me at all considering your post quality
This is my point. Hhampuz is specifically declining to utilize the most effective advertiser, so to personally benefit. He also accepted a friend of his, who at the time had been caught (and had negative trust for at the time) plagiarizing in recent months. I am not calling him out on this because I am involved, I am more than willing to call him (or anyone else) out on this, regardless of who is involved. Neither of these things can align with any claim that Hhampuz is acting in the best interest of his client. The line that he has "full authority" or whatever over his advertising campaigns is BS because that does not give him a license to act to the detriment to his clients (who are ultimately paying participants), especially when he receives a personal benefit.
1566  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How do you imagine ideal society? on: May 19, 2019, 03:35:02 PM
Ideal society would be that everyone has their basic needs met. 

-free housing
-free food
-free school
-free healthcare
This sounds good, but creates disincentives to work and be a productive member of society. If all of these needs are met, why would someone work?

Providing all of the above is not only expensive, but it will lead to very few people having adequate of the above because there are not enough people working to produce the above.


Its disturbing that America has more vacant houses than homeless people.  Its a very big problem when there are investors buying multiple homes just to let them sit empty.  I don't believe the free market should be involved with something that you need to live.
In general, few people will intentionally have their property sitting vacant. Most people who invest in real estate will attempt to find tenants willing to pay rent who can produce income for the investor until he sells the property.
1567  Economy / Reputation / Re: Hhampuz Reputation Thread on: May 19, 2019, 02:40:44 AM

edit- LOL to the fact you still wear a signature and don't get paid. Why not go and join a campaign that will actually pay you? Oh right, because no one would hire you. Pathetic.
I continue to wear the signature to show there is no repetitional concern of my advertising for livecoin.

I am under no obligations to hire you or anyone else and I am free to do what I want in terms of removing members from the campaigns I manage. Each and every one of my clients have full confidence in me and my ability to manage a campaign and that is why they let me handle it all the best way I see fit. I removed you due to receiving messages from many members, yes. You can call it pressure if you want but more than anything I just didn't need the extra work needed (justifying you being paid to post).
You are intentionally not hiring the most effective advertisers so that you obtain personal benefits. This is in effect you taking a little bit of the advertising budget off the top for your personal use.

Your post indicate my advertising for livecoin is no detriment to their reputation, and your PM indicated to me that you acknowledge livecoin has received an outsized positive benefit to my advertising.

This is not unlike how you accepted a friend of yours into another one of your campaigns that you knew was plagiarizing post -- you accepted an inferior advertiser who you knew was not going to make good posts into your campaign because he was your friend and you would benefit.
1568  Other / Meta / Re: Petition: disable "Banned from displaying..." signature and leave it blank on: May 19, 2019, 12:08:40 AM
I obviously don't mean that someone should me making a living in here. My point was in general a society: If you don't give second chances, you are ostracizing them into stealing to survive.
I don’t think the ban message being displayed is preventing anyone from getting a second chance.
1569  Other / Meta / Re: Petition: disable "Banned from displaying..." signature and leave it blank on: May 18, 2019, 11:08:58 PM

The main point here is, they were doing a good job. If everyone had your mentality ("let's not hire this guy ever again because he did something wrong in the past, even if he was doing a good job now"), everyone that did something wrong in the past would remain unemployable, the end result being a collapsing society thus one would be forced to steal since you have to eat.
Signature advertising should not be someone's job. If this is someone's primary source of income, they are not someone we particularly want here.

I am not saying someone should absolutely, under no circumstances ever get hired to advertise on their signature again if they are caught plagiarizing. I am saying potential advertisers (employers) should be warned as to their history so they can take this information into consideration.

There are a decent amount of circumstances in which I would *not* personally hire someone who previously plagiarized, especially if they tried to cover it up after they were caught.
1570  Other / Meta / Re: Petition: disable "Banned from displaying..." signature and leave it blank on: May 18, 2019, 10:34:31 PM
I see the message as a warning to anyone who will potentially consider paying for advertising in the future that the person may not be someone who will be the most effective advertiser.

They were good advertisers up until someone digged posts from 5 years ago to report them. Now im afraid a year from now when the ban is gone, no one is going to hire them because of that instead of giving them a fair chance.
Like I said, what they did is very similar to stealing money (from advertisers) when they believe no one was looking.

I am not sure this is something I would want associated with my business. It is also an added risk because these people have shown themselves willing to try to obtain money under false pretenses.
1571  Other / Meta / Re: Petition: disable "Banned from displaying..." signature and leave it blank on: May 18, 2019, 08:53:19 PM
The message is only displayed when directly viewing the profile and is not under every message they post.

It remains that plagiarism is very unethical (in addition to being harmful to the forum), and is not unlike stealing when the person believes no one is watching.

I see the message as a warning to anyone who will potentially consider paying for advertising in the future that the person may not be someone who will be the most effective advertiser. I also do not believe this warning to be inappropriate.

I think for the most part, someone who is banned from wearing a signature is probably not going to be posting very much anyway, and mostly were here solely for the signature money.
1572  Economy / Reputation / Re: Hhampuz Reputation Thread on: May 18, 2019, 07:40:52 PM
I have no reason to believe anyone wants me to remove my signature. No one has made any effort in any way to get me to remove it
I am not sure what happened with you and Hhampuz as well as Livecoin campaign, but the key rule is managers have rights to remove participants after announcements if they think those participants are not fitted with campaigns they managed.
There are two kinds of actions:
- Removed at the check and pay day: without payment of last week at all. This one might lead to complaints.
- Removed after check and payday: It means participants got payments for last week and only be removed for next one after getting announcement. I think this one is fine. This rule even states that participants can be removed without payment or notice.
*Do not have any legitimate negative feedback from any DT member. Receiving negative feedback during your stay could lead to your termination from the campaign without payment or notice.
I am not sure what you are trying to say. I have not received any trust ratings since I joined his campaign.

Hhampuz confirmed via PM that he removed me due to personal pressure (benefit he would receive) and not due to the effectiveness of my advertising. Further, he has made *zero* attempts to get me to try to remove the signature I have been wearing since removing me from the campaign.

He is obtaining personal benefit to the determent to his client, the entity who has hired him to maximize the value of their advertising dollars.

It is ridiculous to suggest posting this in a censored (self moderated) thread, and it is worthless to leave a trust rating when multiple of his friends (who are getting paid by hhampuz money from his clients) will leave ratings covering this up.

Hhampuz appears to be making decisions on behalf of those he is working for (eg his advertisers/clients) that benefit him personally, that are detrimental to his clients/customers.

If you are considering hiring Hhampuz, I would suggest that you not.

Untrustworthy

Says a troll who's got anything but a clean trust history on this forum. QS, NO ONE cares about your irrelevant and often incorrect OPINIONS. You bring nothing but drama and nonsense to this forum. 

If you are considering hiring Hhampuz, I highly recommend doing so. He's a good buddy of mine because he's a man of integrity with a big heart. He takes his work very seriously and is highly trustworthy.
I am not sure why someone with a history of plagiarism thinks he can speak to the integrity of someone else. This is someone who effectively stole something when he thought no one would notice.

...If you are considering hiring Hhampuz, I would suggest...

If you are considering listening to Quickseller, I would suggest that you not.

If you are considering hiring Hhampuz, I would suggest you do it, he is a professional and valuable member of Bitcointalk community!
I see no reason to engage in any kind of debate with you considering you are incapable (refuse) of debating anyone who disagrees with you.

I would point out that your post was paid for by hhampuz, out of money from one of his clients. 
1573  Other / Meta / Re: [Appeal] 1-2years sig ban is too much for Good for the forum users on: May 17, 2019, 10:25:31 PM
IMO 1-2 year signature ban is fair.

The forum is not a place in which people can earn income for doing low effort tasks, and it not a place where posting should be considered a "job". You should post if you have a genuine interest in the topic of discussion, and any signature income should be an added bonus.
1574  Other / Meta / Re: Temporary Ban shasan (unban Appeal) on: May 17, 2019, 02:46:55 PM
If you have outstanding business, you can message theymos to ask if you post/PM for the sole purpose of satisfying any outstanding obligations you have, or to collect any money you are owed.

I don’t know if they will grant an exception or not.
1575  Other / Meta / Re: Temporary Ban shasan (unban Appeal) on: May 17, 2019, 02:13:22 PM
Was it *you* that actually posted the plagiarized post?
I am not sure either there is any plagiarised post on my profile or not. I cant remember if there is any plagiarised post.
Are you the original owner of your account?
1576  Other / Meta / Re: Temporary Ban shasan (unban Appeal) on: May 17, 2019, 02:08:48 PM
You have a two year signature ban so I presume you were caught plagiarizing.

Frankly I think you should just admit to the plagiarism if you are guilty of this. If you don’t, you are within your rights to have proof of your plagiarism presented, but I have no doubt it can easily be presented.

Was it *you* that actually posted the plagiarized post?
1577  Economy / Reputation / Re: Hhampuz Reputation Thread on: May 17, 2019, 07:43:10 AM
Hhampuz appears to be making decisions on behalf of those he is working for

Did you get kicked out of a campaign for being a dick?
The last I checked, hhampuz doesn't kick people out of his campaigns for being a dick

why are you still wearing the sig?
I have no reason to believe anyone wants me to remove my signature. No one has made any effort in any way to get me to remove it
1578  Other / Meta / Re: [ban appeal] cellard on: May 17, 2019, 07:24:48 AM
Quote
It's not as easy as just creating a new account like it was pre-merit days.
They have no problem to get the merits needed to rank up.
Says the person who received zero merit in ~18 months....
1579  Economy / Reputation / Re: Hhampuz Reputation Thread on: May 17, 2019, 07:04:34 AM
Hhampuz appears to be making decisions on behalf of those he is working for (eg his advertisers/clients) that benefit him personally, that are detrimental to his clients/customers.

If you are considering hiring Hhampuz, I would suggest that you not.

Untrustworthy
1580  Economy / Reputation / Re: REEE: What's wrong with Vod, and Hhampuz on: May 17, 2019, 06:24:41 AM
if[...] you believe in treating everyone the same, why aren't you spending a lot of time defending other members being doxed on a daily bases? 


I was actually PM'ed yesterday about a dox of someone else I have posted, and I will give the same explanation I gave the person...

OgNasty is not reasonably accused of (trying to) obtain money belonging to someone else that he is not entitled to. In other words, there is no one seriously saying that OgNasty tried to steal money from them, nor is anyone saying that OgNasty tried to force them to send OgNasty money that he was not entitled to. Similarly, he is not accused of conspiring (nor being an accomplice) with anyone else to do the above.

Vod had accused OgNasty of not paying taxes and/or not properly reporting all of his forum/bitcoin-related income to the IRS. This was based on what appears to be baseless speculation, and the wording of OgNasty's description of certain fees he received, and Vod did not claim (to my knowledge) to have any non-public information. Further, Vod appeared to be extorting OgNasty by threatening to report OgN to the IRS if OgN did not stop being critical of Vod -- an IRS investigation/audit is expensive and time consuming, and would generally be harmful to someone even if no payment is made to the IRS at the end of the investigation/audit -- there was not explicit threat that I am aware of, and the threat was somewhat "between the lines" of statements made by Vod.

Owlcatz on the other hand (the person whose partial dox I posted, who I was PM'ed about), stands accused of being a conspirator to an extortion scheme. It is my conclusion, based on the available facts, that he played a roll in trying to force zeroaxl to give lauda money that he was not entitled to. The claim that the extortion scam was a "sting operation" is utter an complete bullshit, and anyone touting this line is either afraid of speaking out against the people involved, or is defending these criminals, and will forever have zero credibility in my book. What these people did was very wrong, and they absolutely deserve to be held accountable.
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