I asked Hhampuz in his campaign thread about why the bitcoin was moved when he could not have possibly received instructions on how to return the excess money, but have not received a response after a day. This is also assumption. This is not an assumption, as explained above. The fact BestMixer is unlikely to use ChipMixer is not an assumption either. They may very well use ChipMixer on a regular basis, but I did not state they would or would not use the ChipMixer service under any scenario.
|
|
|
If he wants to give some other explanation, he is welcome to do so. I reserved a post under the OP for his response so it will be prominent.
Why would he want to give an explanation? Do you really think that whatever happened(Bestmxixer instructions or not), he'd want the Dutch government hound dogs to catch a whiff of the trail? You've already done a crackerjack for them for free by pointing the way for them. Because as it stands now, he is being accused of embezzling money that belongs to BestMixer. It is my belief the available evidence points to this being true. I would also find it unlikely the Dutch government is not already aware of the situation. I don't think they would seize the BestMixer servers and just go home and call it a day.
|
|
|
The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign. You explained why you think Hhampuz has not received instructions to move the funds. Perhaps Hhampuz made every attempt to communicate with the BestMixer team here on the forum for tractability, but having the Feds knock on your door changes things. Maybe they moved communication to an encrypted texting service, we don't know. I don't know, and you don't know. All we can do is speculate. Like I just did. I can assure you that Hhampuz did not receive off-forum communications to move the bitcoin. I will write a timeline for you: All years 2019 May 19, 09:09:39 PM BestMixer forum account last active - May 19, 2019, 09:09:39 PM - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1721098May 22, 05:36:25 PM, Hhampuz closes campaign and pays out participants - https://btc.com/b27574cee6516ce29ff84dca1fad3e04e799cabcb801a102360e5e437c7147d9 (transaction was confirmed at 5:04 PM) May 22, 5:27:09 PM, Hhampuz sends bitcoin to 3GNa...Rsrtv - https://btc.com/c5c716e779653795aaa03c950199cfcc73fef855b290153f421886d3d572fae1May 22, 09:17:11 PM, Hhampuz posts he has only communicated with BestMixer via the forum - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125389.msg51174898#msg51174898If he wants to give some other explanation, he is welcome to do so. I reserved a post under the OP for his response so it will be prominent.
|
|
|
Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use. That's quite a leap. You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet. You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design. BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do. This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking. The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign. The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this. More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead. If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that. Why would he waste his time to reply to this obvious grasp for attention and give you what you want? The evidence points to him embezzling money.... Further, deposit addresses for ChipMixer are only good for a maximum of 14 days, it would not be possible for Hhampuz to receive instructions to send the excess money to a ChipMixer deposit address when the campaign started, because the campaign lasted longer than that. What evidence? You can read the OP. Your prior support for extortionists doesn’t give me confidence you are acting in good faith.
|
|
|
Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use. That's quite a leap. You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet. You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design. BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do. This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking. The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign. The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this. More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead. If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that. Why would he waste his time to reply to this obvious grasp for attention and give you what you want? The evidence points to him embezzling money.... Further, deposit addresses for ChipMixer are only good for a maximum of 14 days, it would not be possible for Hhampuz to receive instructions to send the excess money to a ChipMixer deposit address when the campaign started, because the campaign lasted longer than that.
|
|
|
Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use. That's quite a leap. You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet. You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design. BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do. This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking. The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign. The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this. More assumptions. How can you tell for sure that such instructions weren't provided when they hired him? I can imagine that mixer operators think ahead. If that is what happened, Hhampuz can respond to this thread and show evidence of that. The question as to what happened to the money was previously broached to Hhampuz, which went ignored.
|
|
|
Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use. That's quite a leap. You've offered no proof the funds have not been returned BestMixer, or that that Hhampuz sent them to his own personal wallet. You don't know where the money ended up, and apparently that's by design. BestMixer hired to Hhampuz to escrow their funds, and even if he still has the funds in his possession, that's not a scam, he's doing what he was hired to do. This whole thread is based on a lot of speculation and wishful thinking. The money very clearly was moved, that cannot be disputed. I explained in the OP how I know Hhampuz did not receive instructions on how to return the money after he ended the campaign. The theory that Hhampuz moved the money to his own hidden address unknown to anyone and therefore is not stealing is quite the leap. The action of moving the money through a mixer is evidence his intention is to keep the money for himself. There is no reason they would want him to do this.
|
|
|
And yet another thread filled with nothing but assumptions. Nobody has been arrested so they are perfectly capable of contacting Hhampuz.
You don't know they have not been arrested. This has not been announced one way or another. Further, the time frame that Hhampuz spent the money is not constant with what one would expect. Assuming the BestMixer operators have not been arrested, recovering ~$4,300 in advertising expenses is probably low on their list of priorities immidiately after the government shut down their business.
|
|
|
Ahh, it is none of my business if Hhampuz is stealing from others. Well considering that Hhampuz is holding money on behalf of others, and is guaranteeing payment to a lot of others, I think the question of if Hhampuz is stealing from others is something that many people would be interested in, and would want to know about prior to affiliating with him.
Everyone who was owed was paid. It's none of your business. BestMixer is owed, and has not been paid. They are not owed anything. What is the basis for this statement? The same as the basis for this: BestMixer is owed
That was explained in the OP. There were funds left over after the campaign was ended early, and the money was clearly not returned to BestMixer.
|
|
|
Ahh, it is none of my business if Hhampuz is stealing from others. Well considering that Hhampuz is holding money on behalf of others, and is guaranteeing payment to a lot of others, I think the question of if Hhampuz is stealing from others is something that many people would be interested in, and would want to know about prior to affiliating with him.
Everyone who was owed was paid. It's none of your business. BestMixer is owed, and has not been paid. They are not owed anything. What is the basis for this statement?
|
|
|
Ahh, it is none of my business if Hhampuz is stealing from others. Well considering that Hhampuz is holding money on behalf of others, and is guaranteeing payment to a lot of others, I think the question of if Hhampuz is stealing from others is something that many people would be interested in, and would want to know about prior to affiliating with him.
Everyone who was owed was paid. It's none of your business. BestMixer is owed, and has not been paid.
|
|
|
I saw something I believed to be not right, asked about it, received no response. I am calling out bad behavior as I see it. It doesn't matter who you are, including if you are someone doing business with me, if I am aware of bad behavior, I will call you out.
It is NONE of your business, especially when you are a SCAMMER with a compromised sense of judgement. I'm stopping this thread right here and right now. Ahh, it is none of my business if Hhampuz is stealing from others. Well considering that Hhampuz is holding money on behalf of others, and is guaranteeing payment to a lot of others, I think the question of if Hhampuz is stealing from others is something that many people would be interested in, and would want to know about prior to affiliating with him. I don't think you have any authority to stop this thread. Clearly Bestmixer trusted HH to escrow the campaign funds so unless they say he scammed them - there's no scam. These people are either in jail, or are hiding from the government. By your logic, it is okay to steal from someone in jail, or someone who is dead because they will never be able to complain
|
|
|
So is this your response for getting kicked out of the Livecoin campaign, you little piece of scamming shit?
I saw something I believed to be not right, asked about it, received no response. I am calling out bad behavior as I see it. It doesn't matter who you are, including if you are someone doing business with me, if I am aware of bad behavior, I will call you out. I suspect your response is a good indication of the validity of my accusation.
|
|
|
Scam accusation against Hhampuz https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147938.0 Your hypocrisy is just laughable. So the fact that I messed up once, means that Hhampuz shouldn't have given me a chance? Would it be a good idea to allow someone who is known to have just stolen to be a bank teller or other employee with access to money? No of course not, anyone who does that should get fired. I gave every satoshi during all my campaigns to charity,
So you steal from Peter to pay Paul? Kinda like a Peter pan kinda guy. Good to know.
|
|
|
Reserved for response from Hhampuz
Reserved for response from Hhampuz's other clients
|
|
|
What happened:: Hhampuz appears to have stolen ~0.54 BTC (~$4,300 at the time) from the BestMixer campaign after he ended it. Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881377Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125389.0;allAmount Scammed: 0.54 BTCProof of Payment: c5c716e779653795aaa03c950199cfcc73fef855b290153f421886d3d572fae1 Additional Notes: On May 22, 2019, it appears the BestMixer domain was seized by European government authorities. At the time Hhampuz was running their signature campaign. Once Hhampuz learned of the domain seizure, he announced the signature campaign was ending immidiately, and shortly thereafter he paid out what was due to each participant, presumably at the time. (The early cutoff for posts, and early payment appears to have violated the terms of the campaign, but that is not the topic of contention). The txid for the payment to participants was b27574cee6516ce29ff84dca1fad3e04e799cabcb801a102360e5e437c7147d9, which has a change address of bc1q9dzph9s96gsawqzcyj63j37e8nx8438pne296c, which is also the address the payment came from, and where all previous payments for this campaign came from. About 30 minutes later, the balance of what remained from the signature campaign was sent to 3GNadBucAV7kU3V5M5BrusFesQ4wfRsrtv via txid c5c716e779653795aaa03c950199cfcc73fef855b290153f421886d3d572fae1. After the above transaction, the money was sent via txid f1d0b755a53da5d17312a9df7304d3f08ecd264b5704d80e708e74dfae9bd388 to 1JnE9A72rBNbNRCN6FSdrRqcG1msTxki8x, which I believe may belong to ChipMixer. Later that day, Hhampuz posted that he never communicated with BestMixer outside of the forum: I've never had any contact with BestMixer outside of this forum, the account that messaged me never even gave me a name at the bottom of their message. I once asked if we could talk outside of bitcointalk since it would be easier and due to them not being online here that much. They declined and said this will be the only form of communication. As of when the signature campaign ended, the bestmixer account that created the ANN thread referenced in the OP of the signature campaign was last active three days before the campaign ended. The outputs to the transaction that 1JnE9A72rBNbNRCN6FSdrRqcG1msTxki8x spent are: 1M1o8TUAUunxD2rS4tnWFe8T3FSwQp8633 18FjF4nhU3m6MELjrpGyw175Hj1cMG8jXf 17EociKcomb7bXrN5uXFJS1WD989SoiCHB 17j1WYxgetC9JEmzNLCVF7iX63wEWvmHSi 1Lwu7dAUdidJtcsaYjwMNTJVK5dWAQTK64 All of which are 0.064 BTC, and according to the tool, http://chipstatdethbuwk.onion/ (tor link) BestMixer posted, all are "chips" belonging to ChipMixer and/or its customers. Additionally, BestMixer was critical of ChipMixer, and as such is unlikely to use their service. I asked Hhampuz in his campaign thread about why the bitcoin was moved when he could not have possibly received instructions on how to return the excess money, but have not received a response after a day. Based on the above, I believe that Hhampuz has stolen the excess money from the BestMixer campaign for his own personal use.
|
|
|
I'm not saying its a good thing that people leaves controversial feedback, I'm saying worrying about [controversial feedback ratings] is a waste of your time This has shown itself to be true. It didn’t used to be this way. In the past, a person was forced to defend controversial ratings. Today their supporters will troll the person who receives the negative ratings that are unjustified. I don’t see how anyone could take the trust system seriously after seeing this kind of reaction to a dispute. I also don’t understand why someone would possibly think it would be a good idea to run a bitcoin related business on the forum when you know there is a potential this will happen to your business. People "troll" because their victim will engage, if you don't give them the satisfaction thats kind of the end of it. The bolded is kind of my point, if you have unwarranted negative feedback and people are trying to harass you about it, if you don't blow it up into a massive thing, it'll just look like them being idiots and no one will take the negative feedback seriously. You look innocent in comparison, and the group of supporters begin to lose supporters. If a restaurant owner has a fake yelp review against their store that says, "Yeah the owner called me a weather balloon and spit in my face!" people will likely assume that its fake. If the owner responds by insulting them and calling them fake, it lends credence to the thought that maybe the owner is unstable enough to actually do what was claimed. You guys are being provoked into making any false claims against you look real. That is kinda circular logic, don't you think? I don't think it is okay to harm someone's reputation -- and effectively remove their ability to earn income (here) for arbitrary reasons. It is a natural reaction to be upset when this happens to a person. With the current implementation of the trust system, even an obviously fake review is going to make other people hesitant to trade with the person because all reviews of those in the other person's trust network is calculated into the trust score. The argument that "no one could possibly take the trust system seriously, therefore it is okay for someone to do a wrong via the trust system" is ridiculous. The fact the trust system is broken is not an excuse to use it to cause harm to others for arbitrary reasons.
|
|
|
He is a spammer.
He doesn’t read threads prior to posting, but he clearly knows how to read English.
He appears to have the capacity to learn, but doesn’t appear to know what he is talking about most of the time.
I don’t know this for sure, but I speculate he doesn’t rely on his signature earnings to live. His signature spam appears to be the sole result of nothing other than greed.
|
|
|
IMO, even decent spammers would not be attracted with these rates, and they will prefer bounty hunting even though they are not certain they'll get a good reward than posting a lot to earn a decent amount which would possibly risk their account of getting ban for spamming.
I actually just posted about this in their thread yesterday. They are currently paying about 10% of what most other campaigns pay, except the lightlord/777coin campaigns . They replied to my concerns, but I am not sure they understood what my concerns are, or that he even read the majority of my post -- his reply was mostly skewed (and incorrect) information about why people should join his campaign. IIRC, even when he opened his thread, they were still paying a fairly low rate, but had a very high maximum, which remains unchanged (0.1 BTC/week). I would say they roughly halved their /post rates, so perhaps their previous rates were roughly 20% of what most other campaigns paid. IIRC, back in the day, they (and most /post campaigns with high post limits) would pay 0.001 BTC for high ranking accounts, and the "fixed rate" campaigns, that generally required 50 posts/month would pay 0.1 BTC per month, so the /post campaigns paid roughly 50% of the "fixed rate" campaigns. Except now, the higher rate campaigns now generally pay /post, and have 50 post/week maximums, or about 4x what was previously required for "fixed rate" campaigns. Unless you are making thousands of posts/month, it does not make any sense to join their campaign if you qualify for another campaign that pays "market" rates.
|
|
|
For my thread, I have a criteria that I am generally looking for, but I am generally willing to be very flexible in terms of what I am willing to accept. In general, as long as it is clear you are putting a decent amount of effort into the posts you cite, and generally know what you are talking about, you will receive some amount of merit from me so long as I have some available. The only exception to the above is the person needing to submit at least two posts (I prefer more), if you only submit one post, I will generally sent you a PM asking for a second post to look at, however if your one post is especially helpful, and after a quick review of your post history, I believe your post history is strong, I will generally give some amount of merit, if I have any available.
|
|
|
|