To say the truth, this SARS-cov-2 coronavirus doesn't look to me a lot different to any other seasonal cold just looking at the numbers and allowing for some 'margin of error' or 'slop' associated with the unreliability of corp/gov related media presented information.

Seasonal colds sweep through the world once then vanish with herd immunity in the 60-70% range.  I see no scientific reason yet to think that this one would be any different.  It doesn't _need_ to 'come in waves' unless that would be handy for some other thing that leaderships wish to do.  Esp, forced vaccinations of everyone on earth because some time is necessary to make the development of a vaccine believable.

The high level of quarantine world-wide is accomplishing one main thing for this coronavirus:  It is making it so that this particular coronavirus is not dying out as normal once it reaches the typical level of herd immunity that would ordinarily happen.

Anything is possible, but this seems like one of the least likely things to start happening any time soon.

E-gad.  I didn't know that comedy troupe was still around.  I liked the brother 'Dave Acton' back when he was going strong.

I didn't watch much mostly because it's buffering so badly and because there are a lot more credible sources without such a sordid history.  I've got like three vids paused half-way already.

FWIW, I found truthstreammedia's latest to be worth the watch.

I didn't know that this ass-clown had stooped so low as to use the flat-earth-equivalency shtick, but he's pretty lame as a scientist so it doesn't surprise me that that's all he's got.  Fuckin' looser just like Bill Nye the propaganda guy, Jeff Epstein's buddies Jarred Diamond and Oliver Sachs, etc, etc.

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I found my $million+ estate, crane, excavator, family nearby, etc to be 'nearly ideal' as a way I wanted to run out the clock.  Especially since I spent nearly a decade using my toys to arrange the place to my liking, and had another few decades worth of fun projects to work on lined up.

I've still got all that stuff, but until I can be sure that there are no plans underway to round up dissidents I'm not going to chance it.  And Bob Barr is certainly not making things look to promising.

Some Jews saw the writing on the wall in Germany and hoofed it across the Alps to Switzerland and avoided the concentration camps.  A very few.  I like being one of the 'very few.'

I'll tell you straight up that there are a ton of natural born lilly-whites who are practically ecstatic that they will soon be minorities.  My family is full of these people.  They tend to get most of their information from the likes of NPR, celebrity-scientists like Tyson, and rags like Atlantic and New Scientist.  The assumption is that when the Third-World hoards outnumber them they can all join hands and sing kumbaya and discuss the finer points of philosophy over fresh-ground coffee.  And, or course, no more Donald Trumps will be elected.

On the other side there are people like me.  I don't 'hate my country' because the United States is no longer even around to hate.  It's been completely taken over by forces which seek to destroy it and are just about ready to 'cut the core columns' and let watch it completely implode.  Probably we are seeing that now.  I do hate these forces, I hate the policies which they implement, and I hate the historical figures who let them in.  I'm not happy about having been run out of a nearly ideal life in the U.S., but I'd be even less happy about being detained indefinitely in a Bob Barr style 'pre-arrest.'  I've been quick to open my mouth and voice my dis-satisfaction for the last three decades as my country slipped away.  My behavior is duly cataloged and you cannot take a mulligan on such things in our digital age.

You are falling into a commonly used trap of relying on propagandists for information about what anti-vaxxers believe.  I am out on the margins and do entertain hypotheses about the things you enumerate.  That doesn't mean that I 'believe' them or 'dis-believe' them; just that I pattern-match these possibilities against observations.  Anyway, I am chronically aggravated at 'anti-vaxxers' for dogmatically accepting a lot of other questionable corp/gov pushed things without the same kind of analysis that they apply to their vaccine research.

Like most so-called 'anti-vaxxers', I am in favor of some vaccines and requested them for my child.  In my case the only vaccine which the rewards probably outweigh the risks would be HBG for tuberculosis.  Most so-called 'anti-vaxxers' choose more vaccines for their kids than I do.

A certain minority of 'anti-vaxxers' come at things from a religous angle and reject all vaccines (and other medical interventions) as principle.  I personally think that is kind of nuts, but it's not my place to butt into their business.  It would be nice if the pro-vaxxers would take the same tact and leave other people alone, but these people tend to be nasty control-freak types who are not wired that way.  And their thought leaders, in the shadows pulling the puppet strings, are probably anti-human Lucifarian types as best I can determine.

True, there are a lot higher percentage of Jews in the Democratic party, or at least ones that don't go to excessive lengths to hide it.

It's unclear how much of the racial surpreamacy remains after the religious elements of Judaism have been shelved, but in my experience with my many secular Jewish friends, I would say that elements of it linger on.  Hard not to when they see in themselves and their peers, relative to the goyim, a distinct and obviously statistically relevant difference in aspects of their being (intellectual prowess in particular), and I cannot fault them for this as I see the same thing in them.

OTOH, it's hard to know exactly how 'secular' a self-professed secular Jew actually is since there is a rich history of going crypto (often times for very understandable reasons.)  Complicating that, is someone who is an enthusiast of kabbalah or Zionism religious or not?  Both frameworks are rooted in Jewish supremacy, but they can be (and often are) marketed as secular.

Yeah, cuz there is no racism in China.


...says the guy in who's country pink slime was developed.

I'm certainly not one to defend Russia or the current government of that country.  All I am saying is that at this time no country should be compared to the U.S. in matters concerning economic policy.

Maybe in a few years the United States will be on more equal ground with the rest of 'the nations' when it comes to monetary system flexibility.

Classic.  Enjoy your Alzheimers.

I entertain the idea that I am wrong all the time.  Nearly constantly in fact.  One MUST do that in order to absorb new information and ideas.  Only after many YEARS of testing and re-testing do I normally feel a fairly high degree of confidence in most things.

It's interesting to note 10 years ago my ideas about a lot of things were probably pretty close to what you seem to espouse today.  I was more inclined to use the 'consensus' as promoted by corp/gov as a starting point than I am today, but one can only get burnt so many times before one evolves their philosophical methods.

I won't speak for Techshare, but my sense from his writing is that his methods are similar to mine.

This may be a little to complex for some people, but I'll simplify it as much as I can:

 - If 'Government A' says 'no facemasks necessary', and 'Government B' says 'facemasks are a good idea.' then one of them is wrong.

 - The best reconciliation for most people (so-called 'normies') to take 'my government is the one which is right because it is my government.'

The reason this is the 'best' form most people is that if they take the other side they have to contemplate that their government is capable of being wrong and allow for past and future things that the government says to be questionable.  This is very cognitively destabilizing for most people.

It is much more easier and more comforting to just have a trusted source that they can rely on without question.  Saves a lot of tiresome research to be cross-checking things all the time.

Also, a vast amount of money and effort has been expended to push people into a state of permanent childhood mentally.  The reason for this is that the government can then take the role of the parent.

For those who don't realize it, 'flat earth' is a psychological operation with a very specific purpose.  Lazy people can use it when they are losing an argument about a real thing or when they need to divert attention.

Nobody I know who questions the corp/gov narrative on things like vaccines, global warming, fluoride, 5G, etc, 'believes in flat earth'.  In fact it is to rediculous to put any thought into.

But the association between 'flat earth' and other contrarian positions is a lie that has been repeated over and over again.  Quite deliberately.

If you see someone inject 'flat earth' into any conversation you can know that the person injecting it is either a promoter or a victim of this particular psy-op.

More and more people are noticing that 'the crazies' tend to rely on science and logic and often put enough effort to read scientific papers and provide links while...


^^^...The normies on the other side tend to be more than a little bit dogmatic.

You see in their work 'appeal to authority' and 'appeal to popularity' arguments dominate their thought process and it is quite rare to see actual scientific papers presented.  [Thanks, TechShare, for the brief and legible labels which nail it.]

One time on one of the vaccine threads someone posted a list of 50 studies.  I picked one at random.  What it actually said was just the opposite of what the pro-vaxer (who obviously just copy pasted some list he found somewhere and didn't read the material) claims.

Here are  a couple of things I've written on this subject:

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Ya, ummm, before you rush out to get your necessarily poorly tested coronavirus vaccine next year, you may want to have a peek at this:

  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3335060/pdf/pone.0035421.pdf

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Let me try to explain the paper to you.

 - They worked on developing a SARS coronavirus vaccine and in animal testing found a rather odd problem:

 -    animal subjects which were vaccinated ended up dieing like flies when exposed real disease came around.

 - The vaccine 'worked' in that the victim developed antibodies, but:

 - It seems as though _in this case_ the vaccine primed the immune system for a rather extreme over-reaction.  (cytokine storm.)

 - They warned explicitly to be super careful about this phenomenon if a vaccine is tried in humans.

So vaccine development for SARS coronavirus ceased...or did it?  Some people wonder if some of the victims in China had been part of phase 1 or phase 2 trials of just such a vaccine.  Of course even if this were the case it would be deeply covered up, and a Chinese doesn't really have the right to even know if they were part of a trial.  Same with U.S. servicemen.

The moral of the story is that there are very good reasons why vaccines SHOULD undergo long trials and shortcuts should not be taken.

I would point out the dengue fever is another one of these unusual instance where re-challenge was problematic.  Exposure to a 2nd strain after the first (or after the vaccine) creates a MORE dangerous disease than otherwise.  So the vaccine if given at all should only be given to someone who has already had Dengue once.  This was overlooked in The Philippines and it resulted in a scandal.  Thankfully for the Filipinos it also induced them to be a little more inquisitive and careful about vaccines.  Nobody likes to be a guinea pig, and especially when the developers are scientifically negligent and the public health officials are bought off by Big Pharma who feel like they can get away with almost anything in developing countries.

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The relatively new schtick popular among the establishment media and medical profession is as follows:

  "There is no evidence of {blah} because we censored it."

Exactly what happened in the first post Dr? Oileo censored.  There was a military study showing a strong possibility that the flu vaccine made one more susceptible to coronavirus

  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31607599


What is one thing oldsters get at a much higher rate than younger folks (probably because they visit the doctor more and are strong-armed into it)?  Flu vaccination.  Could that be contributing to the very unusual figures from this covid-19?  Dr? Oileo's answer:  "No.  We censored it so the question never got asked.  And we didn't talk about vaccines.  Never happened."

As we all know, franky1 is lazy and he is stupid.  He latches on to the biggest word he can find (e.g., 'inflammation') and then he slobbers it mercilessly.

In fact the mechanism of action of a lot of these drugs is quite interesting:

  https://youtu.be/rdoN_XsHWBI?t=517

Part of evaluating a theory is to gather data.  What's your major problem with that?

You seem a little triggered.  Do you feel a funny pang when this topic comes up or something?  Like about 1/5th of a second of a combination of rage and hatred followed by a need to defend your pack?

Chill out dude.  All the post was was 'see something, say something.'

If you don't see anything, fine.  If nobody else does either, that's great.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg54087014#msg54087014

Interesting information.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/are-5g-biometric-systems-being-covertly-installed-during-lockdown-where-you-live/5707159

Anyone noticed anything where they are at?

A couple of things to note.


Firstly this $1000 is borrowed money.  Borrowing money in a debt-based system increases money supply and the U.S. must do this in staggering quantity at this phase of the monetary system's lifecycle.  Counter-intuitively, it's not only 'good' but 'necessary' to pay inflated prices to buy uneeded stuff (e.g., weapons systems which may or may not work), or hand out money to the peeps.

The USD currently has the 'world reserve' status.  What is possible (and again, necessary) for the U.S. is not for any other country who have to supply real value in proportion to money their central bank creates.

As an aside, I now think that taxes are almost completely a mechanism to transfer wealth between members of the lower classes.  Taxes don't 'fund government' as is popularly imagined.  At least not at the federal level, and at the state level is where the individual transfers occur.  The Feds need to borrow USD at amounts that they cannot even keep up with just to keep the system afloat so there is no need whatsovever to take it from the taxed classes.


Secondly, the average American spends $1200/year on prescription meds.  The average American has $4700 in credit card debt.

Basically the relative pittance of $1000 will immediately get sucked right through the individual and transferred into the hands of Big Pharma, the banking system, etc.  Most of that will disappear into the shadow banking system requiring yet more borrowed money handouts.  (An aware observer might have the question:  'what is the collateral for all these loans?'  We may be fixen' ta find out.

I suspect that this is the end of the system might finally be upon us.  And I suspect that the current 'covid-19' was put up (and played up) to take the blame so the banksters don't have to.  I'm now thinking that the big kahuna will happen at the promised '2nd wave' of covid-19 where it will be possible to achieve certain other long-sought goals as well.  ID2020 for one.