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2361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Are you ready for bull market? on: August 30, 2018, 03:13:29 PM
I also hope a bullrun will come at the end of this year. I'm holding some really cheap but promising coins/tokens.

But, If everyone expects a bull, I don't think it will come that soon. I hope I'm wrong, but I kinda know how whales think and they won't start pumping money into market unless they get lots of people's cheap tokens(hopes!).

Well that's probably the reason why a lot of experts are thinking that there will be one last dump probably close to 5k before we make a strong finish. I'm just watching things as they unfold since i don't think i'll be disposing any coins i have this year.
2362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Has the market recovered? on: August 30, 2018, 03:11:23 PM
In fact, the cruel market, especially the cryptocurrency market, was very expensive last year. But this year has been falling. This is a bad news.

There can not be a drop permanent. Market fluctuations are a normal situation, especially when it is susceptible to rumors and panic.
Right. Though recoveries are a bit shortlived most of the time, it's still a break from a continous slump this year. We have 4 months left, probably enough to get a good run to say we've finally recovered for real.
2363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you still believe in the cryptocurrency market? on: August 30, 2018, 02:48:34 PM
In the first place if anyone did not believe in crypto they won't invest or partake in crypto. I am strongly believe in crypto currency. The market may be very bad now it is certain that it will be OK again.

That goes for most of us who are still here. A lot i'm sure exited and stayed away after losing money this year and it would probably take a little time to build confidence again in this market for them. Lessons learned the hard way 🤑
2364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are you picky with ICOs? on: August 30, 2018, 02:47:02 PM
Don't trust the so called "unique" ICOs. On paper they may sound groundbreaking but in reality they could be scams.

Agreed, that are some strategy to those scam ICO. They can be popular in the public or have a nice road map, whitepaper. But in the end it all a scam. We better aware now and be picky to choose an ICO to avoid getting scam.
Yeah and if you're not picky with icos, mote likely that not you'll end up as victim and would likely lose money due to scams. You have to be extra picky and meticulate when studying icos because a lot of there are far from what they seem to be.
2365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which coin is good for mining now ? on: August 30, 2018, 02:17:31 PM
I tried mining and it is not work it, except you live in a 3rd world country where the electricity costs are low. The only thing I would consider is mine a coin where you don't need expensive and hungry gear, like Monero which can be mined with a CPU.

Well this isn't really a good time for mining in general since the costs would't be worth the gain. Small miners would have little profit if anything at all in this kind of market.
2366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN vs ETH ? Your thoughts? on: August 30, 2018, 02:13:27 PM
Bitcoin is too high for investment so I do not think positively. so investors are interested in ethereal. will increase the price of the investors will be happy in the near future.

Ugh, ethereal? Dude bitcoin hasn't reached it's full potential yet so saying it's too high right now is off point, especially if you think about it that btc may reach 50k and above in a few years. Eth will also grow that's for sure but would likely play second fiddle to bitcoin at least for the next 3 to 5 years.
2367  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it going to pass $20k again? on: August 30, 2018, 02:10:36 PM
A couple of days ago I really had a thought in my head, but now after I realized that nothing will change, I decided that in general it's not necessary to try to believe in it, just wait until the market really unfolds, it will be if the BTC price reaches $ 8500
Everything is possible to bounceback again in current prices or surpass in this year 2018 so make sure to hodl it tightly and not greedy anytime which it can causes loss of coins. Decide with your own and having wise for earning.

Well i think people should quit expecting 20k soon. I agree it may come but look at it from a more realistic perspective. The majority of this year has been bear feed and people are really tired and would be wary to jump easily on fomos, which was a big factor for that 20k run last year.
2368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If Cryptos are the future why are we in the RED? on: August 30, 2018, 02:07:46 PM
Well, think for yourself, who among those people who today has the opportunity to buy for example some kind of city, which of them will just take it and surrender? Have you thought about this? I think that it is for this reason that we are braking in the red zone today.

Andn being in red for months is insignificant if you're talking about the future. It's not by far a basis of how the crypto world will fare years from this bear trend. You don't expect an all green market if you're looking at the long term right?
2369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are Cryptos finally getting stable? on: August 30, 2018, 02:05:17 PM
The stable decline, which now lasts for 8 consecutive months, probably needs to be said that today people lost faith in something really good, because the crypto currencies are falling today and do this for a very long time and it's very scary to watch it all.
Not yet, still market is unstable in prices this is not acceptable by any governments worldwide so there's no way to be stable but I'm hoping for that at the perfect time in order not to worried everything in our earnings .

I don't think it's ever going to be stable in general. Like the stock market or forex, the market runs on volatility, an up and down movement of prices to allow traders and holders to make profit for themselves. It's this market's nature.
2370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why martingale is PURE SHIT. on: August 29, 2018, 05:35:39 PM
Martiangle is great way to earn quick profit.
Yes, QUICK PROFIT so if you want to gamble for long term better not use martiangle.

If you want to long term betting, I recommend high risk high reward method using 0.01% winning chance rather than 90% winning chance !
Totally agree with this, martingale is works but only for short run and quick profit. It's highly not recommended to use martingale for long run, so just this strategy for a small run, then stop.

Pure shit for people who don't have that much funds to use martingale efficiently. If you have a lot of money, then it cam be pretty profitable. Though i agree that it isn't for an extemded time.
2371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2019 NBA Pre-Season on: August 29, 2018, 05:33:07 PM
I do not think derozan will keep playing like what derozan used to play on toronto but you guys are forgetting one thing. Yes in 2014 when spurs won the title they played the best team basketball there is but two years ago spurs was heavily reliant on kawhi making plays for himself and scoring, last year it was mostly on lamarcus aldridge and his 1 on 1 with his defender
on low block.

Mainly spurs is not playing the "beatiful game" we remember, they did turned to a more isolation related game, which derozan excells at. He might share the ball a lot more because its spurs, they pass more than others, however not like used to so derozan will be required to do ISO even if not as much. They do not have that many scorers on that team, this year they will only be derozan and lamarcus, anyone else scoring is just open shots, the ppg for all others will be low.

You need at least two or three superstars to win in todays NBA.   The days of a solid group of role players winning a title are long gone.  We won't see a nother team similar to the 2004 pistons for a long time.

To be honest, the NBA has gotten a lot less exciting because of the Golden State Warriors. There team is stacked to the max with all their star players and it's just causing other players to form their own superteams.  Everyone wants to team up in todays NBA instead of taking the difficult path.

For a recap, Golden State Warriors doesn't have a superstar when they began dominating the league until they get into what team they are now. No superstars at all. They all start from a scratch.

Meaning whatever trend in the NBA right now, no need for 2 or 3 superstars just to win a championship*. Yes having a superstar is an advantage but let's not closed the door that soon, some "team" will shine on it's way up bounded by role players.

I believed other teams are doing their best to revamp their respective lineup. Last season, Warriors also have a bad game during their Season games. Meaning they are not the dominant the whole season. They also struggles at Western Conference Finals, , meaning a team can matched them. A competition is still there and no such thing as Warriors owning the NBA.

That's the challenge for other teams now, show what they got. We just have to wait and see what will be the happenings in the upcoming 2018-19 season.
Agree on what you have said and each season we can really potentially see up some teams that might really show up on next years basing on their recent performances.I remember those days where Warriors doesnt have much that performance but they able to snatch out championship. Each team do have the chance and we do all know that the ball is round which anything can happen unexpectedly because nothing do really last on top spots even how dominating they are there would really be a time that a team can possibly break it up and this is what excites me on which team would kick out Warriors.  Tongue

And i don't think a lot of people gave the 2004 pistons a chance of beating a shaq-kobe led lakers that time but they did. The entire league was exoecting the lakers to overpower the superstar-less pistons. Who knows, we'd probably see an unconventional champ this time.
2372  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How I handle crypto regret on: August 29, 2018, 05:23:02 PM
You forget about the coin and do not look at it often, as I think the price of the coin will bounce back, but we see that the market will recover later this year.
surely everyone will recover again I am sure of that. make your mistake as a lesson and start with a new life. people do wrong is natural because we are human. Control your emotions and be patient are the keys to success in investing.

Exactly, as each of us already learned on our mistakes. I definitely believe soon most of us here will recover since the market is still in chaos. We can't also deny the fact that we try our luck here, hoping to have a great amount of profit in the future.

Well those that will recover are those that stated steady during red days. A lot of us already lost money this yesr, a lot who would probably stay away from crypto for a long time. Those that stayed would have learned a good lesson and handling regret would be one of those.
2373  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The pump and dump tactic on: August 29, 2018, 05:19:49 PM
Just like stocks are traded on the floor or on commissions, Cryptocurrency is a prime target for pump and dump aimed at scam or creating FOMO and FUD waves to the market. For those with purchasing power, it's a easy way to get rich quick by making the price. For others, nine out of ten, you will lose. This is one of the reasons people do not trust Bitcoin.
The potential of this market is huge but the volatility is too much because the market capitalization is very small. I believe that as the market grows, there will be no more bad news going on. I am confident that cryptocurrency will make a new history.

Well as long as people have enough assets to start  pump or a dump, it will always be there. Though i think it's not impossible to ride these whales and take their pump and dump schemes to one's advantage.
2374  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why does my eth went down? on: August 29, 2018, 05:16:56 PM
Many people are also wondering why bitcoin prices have fallen to date with the ethereum, especially the ethereum, as it really is the biggest drop in today.

It suffered but it's not out. Hopefully eth supporterd were able to buy below 300 usd since it seems it's ready to recover now along with btc. End of the year is always when the market comes to life and i've always considered eth to be a long term coin anyways.
2375  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin now below 8000 time to buy now on: August 29, 2018, 05:14:38 PM
Bitcoin is very low today even 7700 buck...do you think is good time to buy now or will more lower and crash to 3000 buck...very difficult to predict...what do you think... Who t f is selling on this price.....?....
Currently Bitcoin has reached the $ 7k price. And this is not a good time to buy. As the market moves, after a jump will be a dump. So do not invest now, wait for Bitcoin's price to go down $ 6k5. That would be a reasonable price for buying a lot. Wink
$ 6000- $ 7000 is a reasonable price for investors to invest because it is very cheap compared to last year. I personally have invested in Bitcoin at this price and I believe the price may increase very well in the near future as the demand for investment in Cryptocurrency is increasing and investors are sure to choose Bitcoin to invest because his is the safest investment in this market

Yeah, It will surely grown up and I truly believed on that moment, there's no such a moment after losing bitcoin value there are no bull run coming. It should be has because as the time pass by the more Investors will come In to get Involved with bitcoin technology.

Funny that it seems when this thread was started, 8k was seen as a broken support line lol. Now 8k is a strong resistance that seems a bit far from reach. The thing is, if you're aiming for a 20k abive target, this ramge is always a good buy.
2376  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how often do you check BTC price and how to cope with stress? on: August 29, 2018, 04:20:44 PM
I don't see the condition of bitcoin very often because at the moment I have a job in Katnor that can't always pay attention to the place of exchange, I will only see a line of 2x when going to work and when going to sleep,...

Well that's a way to avoid adding stress to your day especially with this bear market. Newbies should try practicing this to avoid anxiety which more often than not lead to stress and panic. The market will recover simply because it's natural for it to do so. It just may take time longer than you expect.
2377  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why Do People Dump Their Precious Tokens With Ridiculous Low Price on: August 29, 2018, 04:17:34 PM
Dumping are being done by the bounty hunters just because the got the token as a reward based on their effort in promoting the project. But one thing they do not understand is that their time, energy both physical and intellectual are resources. I think the best thing the project owners can do is to pay the hunter with Ether or any other Altcoins  so that once their token is out the price will not be eroded by dumping.

Well i think they really allot a specific amount of token to dispose of when they start a bounty and they should already be aware that this is most likely what will happen. Bounty hunters don't really go for the token itself but it's btc or eth equivalent.
2378  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to make a profit with the dump of the price in the market? on: August 29, 2018, 04:15:02 PM
Hi I just want to ask how can I make a profit with the dump price in the market I want to trade my token right now but the price is dump and I need to trade my token so that I can withdraw my token and I need a money right now for my daily expenses. Can someone give me an advice?

If that's a  token you're holding, then there's likely no way to make a profit from it if you need to withdraw right away. Unfortunately, it seems you have no choice since you really need the money.
2379  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Always keep fiat while holding on: August 29, 2018, 04:12:52 PM
I holded some fiat and tether, and I saw bottom few times and I buy, and price goes lower, and I buy again and it goes down again, with btc crash wasn't hard, but altcoins were bloodbath! I remember how I was smart buying BTX at 11$, I thought it cant go lower  Cheesy

I wonder how much you've loss now in btx with its current price of $1.24, so basically you loss over ×10. And yeah it dump harder from what you've think.

OP is just waking us for holding too much altcoin because in reality it's unwise to hold it because its losing their value along the way. Maybe for some they need more eye opener to realize what they're holding in their bag. Though cut lose is sometimes unacceptable but if you see that it's hopelss then maybe it's time.
 

Well if you're planning to hold for a long time, might as well stick to the old reliables like ethereum. And make sure you're prepared to hold until it's worth selling. Also having fiat or usdt available is quite a safety net for a lot of traders. With a market this volatile, having it on hand would be quite useful especially in a bear market.
2380  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: You determine when to lose or make money, Stop Blaming the Market on: August 29, 2018, 04:09:20 PM
You and only you have any impact on you're trading decisions. The more emotional you're getting the less chance you'll finish well rewared. You did not lose money until you didn't sell with a loss.

It's funny to think that there's some people believe that crypto market is a quick rich scheme that once you enter here it will be in favor from what you desire that which make them to loss early.

Yes the market is full of manipulations and if you don't know how to ride on it you'll be an empty hand otherwise become insane from your losses. Better yet be used to all these volatility and embrace every flaws of the market and you'll realize that panic won't lead us anywhere.

I find this funny me too. Here you need to think a lot, to have a strategy and a system I would say that includes not only your own analysis, but also your risk and money management. Yep, this market allows you to gain XXXXXXXXs, but the risks work here the same.

Well i agree though sometimes it's hard not to blame the market especially when you feel that the movement goes against what you prepared for. Frustrations will be part if your trading life every once and a while.
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