My whole problem would be the fact he was allowed to play for apparently 13 hours.
Timezone also plays a role. They seem to be mostly around during the 8 to 5 workday (Curacao time). 1- why did you wait all this long to post on scam accusation, and if you were 100% sure you are right, why did you accept a compensation of 0.2btc only?
Apparently he gambled away his bug bounty. Unless something else was meant with the 'lost' statement by FJ. 2- if you were so sure this player was abusing a bug on your system, why did you have to compensate him + give him his deposit back?
Good question. Although they seem to have some sort of bug bounty, I wouldn't award anything to an abuser. So was this game Adrenaline possible to lose at? Or could you only win. Surely there are safeguards that would trigger and alert somebody that there is somethin irregular happening in a game.
Apparently it bugged out at some point which led to 70 consecutive wins. At some point of the game, severe bug affected the play of some players online at that very moment. This is the moment when player Verusfides set auto cash out on 60. As you see from his bet history game starts to bug, and every bet turns out to be won and player suddenly after realizing this firstly doubles the bet and continues to play the bugged game and after 20 minutes or so raises auto cash out from 60 to 200 continuing to stream money from the bugged game. As you see in history, every single bet is won, and I am talking about 70 consecutive bets.
What would happen if you were in a real casino and knew a slot machine was broken in such a way that the casino no longer had the edge, and the casino didn't happen to know that. You use the broken machine to win some money that you later bet on the blackjack table--and you win big there. Should the casino honor any of your bets? I really don't know the rules, but it seems sketchy on the gambler's part in that case, because he knows he's playing a broken machine. Sure you could say, "Well, that's not my problem, it's the casino's" but that doesn't sound right to me.
You'd get stripped away from all winnings and get kicked out. It would be similar to how they handle people that attempt cheating in 'traditional' ways. |
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Since lot of new face on DT network, I am expecting a suggestion's/motivational post from old DT members. To be honest lot of here even don't know where should leave what kind of feedback. So if there is few suggestion's then we can learn from it especially who is totally new.
Here's some quick advice: 1) For positive feedback: Be very conservative. 2) For negative feedback: Be strict and follow the general standards (what we tag for and what we don't tag for). 3) For trust lists: Not that important unless you are DT1, but I'd say be even more conservative than 1). |
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Also btw, I'm pretty sure he's asking the people with signatures to respond to the forums. I haven't asked anyone to defend or represent me.
FJ has not asked me to do anything, ever IIRC. I think I found it either randomly looking at the section or by looking through the post history of the troll Butterscotch Cartman; can't remember anymore. The people that are defending me are just random passerbys who obviously see the poor state in which you guys are assuming your position so I have a majority favor of unbiased people who don't agree with FortuneJack, where as FortuneJack has... it's affiliates. Really looking good there boys. Keep it up.
I'm not a FJ affiliate and I would strongly advise you against making false accusations of collusion as that will: 1) Kill your case. 2) Kill your reputation. This wouldn't be the first time that it backfired on someone; nobody likes liars/conspiracy loons. |
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If you take a compensation (in this case a bug bounty), you are legally entitled to nothing.
This is my current opinion on bugs and compensations and we can leave it at that. Of course it is... Considering it is the exact opposite response you would and have had if/when you weren't wearing their signature. Funny how your ethics depend on whether or not you're paid by the offender. Your word is meaningless and your opinions clouded by greed. This is yet another example of why you belong nowhere near any sort of position of trust. You really need to stop spreading unecessary lies and derailing the thread. Thanks. A 'might-be-right-might-be-wrong' case on this forum (depending on who sees the case and how) won't bring you back any money.
Yeah. That'd be true if I thought I might be wrong or might right, but I'm 100% sure I'm right and 200% sure they're wrong. Here I was referring to how the forum members will react to this thread, some might side with you others might not. Recent legal precedence does not (as I've mentioned), but that doesn't necessarily mean you'd lose if you actually sued them. |
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Not really. You can look up similar cases and any lawyer is going to advise you not to take any kind of compensation in any form (gift cards, items, balances, whatever). I think you can find some information in certain subreddits if you don't feel like reading verdicts.
Yet for some reason people still do, but then again they do and they still somehow win. Wonder why that is. Maybe because the legal ramifications in which the problem at hand clearly outweighed the compensation that was received. Idk guess some people look at things many ways and some people look at things like there's no way at all. Just depends how they respond to the lies they just tried to spread about how I procured those winnings. If you think that you can win, then nobody is preventing you from suing them. A 'might-be-right-might-be-wrong' case on this forum (depending on who sees the case and how) won't bring you back any money. If you take a compensation (in this case a bug bounty), you are legally entitled to nothing.
This is my current opinion on bugs and compensations and we can leave it at that. |
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Last time a casino didn't make a payout for reasons that were beyond their control, they were labeled as scammers and everyone wearing a signature advertisement for them was harassed until they removed the signature.
Source?[1] Not all "reasons beyond their control" fall into the same bag. Now that Lauda is the one advertising for a company that has fallen victim to their own poor operation and refusing to make payouts, it will be interesting to watch the double standard unfold.
This is not double standard, this is how it is usually done nowadays. If you accept something as a compensation, then it is over for you from a legal perspective (a notable case where people were advised not to accept anything was recent Bethesda's shenanigans). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[1] Betcoin maybe? Not even remotely similar. |
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Private information is who I choose to disclose the information to. So if it is a discord group I disclose that I am ok with all the members seeing my information I amd allowing them to view my profile and my username. See the point I'm trying to make whether it's a picture of my face from 20 feet away or from 5 feet away. He's not allowed to disclose anything without asking first or taking time to crop out the information to prevent other users from seeing.
Yeah, yeah. Go ahead and sue him for "disclosing private information" that anyone can access at any given time. Great arguments you are making here. What? Who said I'm gonna sue him? People attempt those things? From nearly opposite ends of the world? It is valid enough information to prevent him from being able to partake any further in this case. No it is not. Or maybe fire him altogether. Haven't seen lots of companies willing to keep people who can't seem to follow basic privacy acts.
Then complain to FJ administration directly not to the forum's community. |
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Did this ever get resolved?
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Private information is who I choose to disclose the information to. So if it is a discord group I disclose that I am ok with all the members seeing my information I amd allowing them to view my profile and my username. See the point I'm trying to make whether it's a picture of my face from 20 feet away or from 5 feet away. He's not allowed to disclose anything without asking first or taking time to crop out the information to prevent other users from seeing.
Yeah, yeah. Go ahead and sue him for "disclosing private information" that anyone can access at any given time. Great arguments you are making here. |
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I reported the photo that was there, but I have the screenshot. He released my Discord SN along with the photo of myself I had in it without my knowledge or my consent. Can't really look at this guy too professionally after that.
You could argue that leaking the connection to this user account and an exact discord username was a mistake. However, the photo thing is nonsense. I literally see your photo right now, as does anyone else who is on at least one discord server as you. That is in no way private information. Forced upon me. Not given. Only agreed when they made it seem like I had no choice. So again not doing anything illegal.
Doesn't matter if they tell you 100 times that it is only what they can give, once you accept any compensation you lose legal ground for anything. That'd be true if they didn't forcibly change the amount that was in my account to begin with. Not really. You can look up similar cases and any lawyer is going to advise you not to take any kind of compensation in any form (gift cards, items, balances, whatever). I think you can find some information in certain subreddits if you don't feel like reading verdicts. Also let's not jump to conclusions you don't know what Curacao's jurisdiction will say.
They'll probably shrug it off. There's a reason certain types of businesses settle in Curacao. |
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It does seem like a purchased/hacked account but absent hard proof that's also not a crime.
Proving otherwise is trivial, and this wouldn't be the first case that someone got tagged for this. Based on posting style and gaps the account may have changed hands twice between 2014 and 1018. Whoever used it in 2017 was putting spaces before commas and periods, and there are large gaps before and after that stretch. The content of posts/topics also differs between those three periods. So at best the current pete is the 3rd pete. That's probably a good enough reason for someone to tag him but I still think tagging for saying things about spammers is not. I have written and applied a proper tag. Please don't kick me out of the cult almighty Lauda for disagreeing with TMAN  There's a reason why I'm the master; TMAN has lots to learn. Don't worry my child, I will keep you safe.  |
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Forced upon me. Not given. Only agreed when they made it seem like I had no choice. So again not doing anything illegal.
Doesn't matter if they tell you 100 times that it is only what they can give, once you accept any compensation you lose legal ground for anything. |
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I stumbled upon this thread as I saw @petestheman bounty thread and interested in one of those. Since I don't want to join account buyer campaign, could you provide some proof? Maybe post something like bitcoin meme on your Tumblr account? my tumblr blog
ourcrazyreality.tumblr.com
Let me guess, he will say that it was only temporary like everything else posted in 2014 and prior.  |
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I just said they are crypto collector as I saw some of there previous posts in collectable section.
I stopped right here, looking at the posts of the user you said was under-merited: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=732010. The first few pages of his post history are just his name in Games & Rounds, and that goes back to at least November. Any other "posts" he made are just stupid thank you's or other garbage. I'm assuming that's one of your alt accounts, because no one in their right mind would think that account's posts are merit-worthy. Having said that, I don't think you ought to have gotten a neg for it. That's between TMAN and you, however. I would suggest to TMAN that Theymos doesn't want shitposters tagged anymore and although this is somewhat of a different situation, it's in the same ballpark. Disagreed. Take a look at what this so called I'm-not-hacked user advertises himself as in his "bounty management" thread. Combine those with what he think is a decent poster --> basically, a fraud using a stolen/hacked account. It does seem like a purchased/hacked account but absent hard proof that's also not a crime.
Proving otherwise is trivial, and this wouldn't be the first case that someone got tagged for this. |
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Btw since you just released my information without my approval you don't really get to make any other choices for your company. I'll let them know what you did here. You really don't know how to act professionally do you. Thanks for that.
P.S. Don't bother trying to edit this information I'm letting your support be aware of your violation of privacy right now.
You really can't be anymore ignorant right now. I'm sorry but, your not gonna get past this one so easily. I'll make sure of it.
Privacy violation?  Without bugged wins, was it possible for player to place plinko bet and all other bets before they played plinko? If answer is no, case closed. If answer is yes, you own them 20 BTC, it is simple as that. If you take a compensation (in this case a bug bounty), you are legally entitled to nothing. Demanding money like this afterwards is in fact illegal. |
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I recently ended up sending 2 neg and 1 neutral trust comment for this person. Andrey123Am I being a little over the top? Please advise. No, but you could compile it into 1 or 2 ratings in total. There's no need to bloat it like that when the actions occured in a very short time span. |
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Can you or can you not sign a message from an old address?
No, I cannot as I mostly convert the crypto to fiat and used different address. Still I can sign one from the recent one from which I signed a message already. 1JywwXphRygZ42KPvP7qtQYccXM2L8hpTu
No Right, so you can't sign from any old address and there are no other ways of confirming that the same user is still in control of the account? Very convenient. There are many people here who have posting gaps that does not mean they should get a red trust on the basis.
Actually it can depending on what they try to do afterwards. |
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Just... How do you do that? Oo
How do you find a 2014 message so fast?
Huge posting gap with this one; it was easy to find by just going into the history because of this. I would really like my account deleted for personal reasons. As if I never even posted. Not a permanent ban but a deleted account.
Something is fishy here. Please stop trying to put unreasonable doubts. That was the time when I quiet up with the crypto suff here but the love dragged me back here. Can you or can you not sign a message from an old address? 1JywwXphRygZ42KPvP7qtQYccXM2L8hpTu
This one for example. @TMAN
Please remove your negative trust it has no basis here.
Actually the trust might be appropriate given your statement, given the posting gap and you labeling yourself as a BM (while making such statements). |
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c'mon verusfides how can you keep complaining after: The Player has already received Large Bug Bounty (0.2 BTC) plus his initial deposit back, and as a personal present from me, 30 Free Spins with minimum x2 wagering requirement. I know 0.2btc isn't that 20btc jackpot, but at least the casino was nice giving you this $740 as a bug bounty. I believe that doing this is actually illegal. If the demands started only after he lost the money (by gambling), it would be even more illegal. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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Thirdly, a player was communicated with this matters several times and at some point, has accepted to get Large Bug Bounty, which is 0.2btc, got his deposit back and also got 30 Free Spins with minimum x2 Wagering because, to be honest, I liked the guy and thought giving him some additional bonus because of the trouble would have been a nice gesture. But after losing the amount he got from Casino, he started to ask for the money again.
The user has already accepted/received the bug bounty? If so, that combined with the following: At some point of the game, severe bug affected the play of some players online at that very moment. This is the moment when player Verusfides set auto cash out on 60. As you see from his bet history game starts to bug, and every bet turns out to be won and player suddenly after realizing this firstly doubles the bet and continues to play the bugged game and after 20 minutes or so raises auto cash out from 60 to 200 continuing to stream money from the bugged game. As you see in history, every single bet is won, and I am talking about 70 consecutive bets.
= there's no case here. If anything, I'd be more inclined to tag the user for demanding the money after accepting the compensation. |
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